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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-22391</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuning_Professional: from what i&#039;ve researched - abit different. CVT has variable valve timing but no variable valve lift, while Neo-VVL has variable valve lift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuning_Professional: from what i&#8217;ve researched &#8211; abit different. CVT has variable valve timing but no variable valve lift, while Neo-VVL has variable valve lift.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuning_Professional</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-22110</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuning_Professional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Paul Tan, I would like to correct the info about the Nissan neo-VVL, if you don&#039;t mind. The Neo-VVL system Nissan used is now called a CVT system. And one more thing- is Honda the first to use the system?
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Paul Tan, I would like to correct the info about the Nissan neo-VVL, if you don&#8217;t mind. The Neo-VVL system Nissan used is now called a CVT system. And one more thing- is Honda the first to use the system?<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: edw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-5432</link>
		<dc:creator>edw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This question was posted on the yahoo.com.my

â€œShould the government protect Proton from foreign competition?â€

more than 65% respondence agree to â€œNo protection please. Proton needs to compete globally or sink â€

Having to raise my children, I know we to let them learn by themselves. 

Our son Proton is now 30 years old, still studying in the University, and when there was a big bully push him around, father have to make a trip to the school to inform the teacher , and look for the bully.

Poor old father is now 65+ and one will imagine how long will father still need to do this.

Our son Proton graduated and started working is a big firm, at now age 40, married and have child of his own, his manager scolded our son proton and make him do the report again, poor old father, now at age 75+, DO YOU THINK HE NEED TO GO TO THE OFFICE TO SCOLD THE MANAGER.

GROW UP PROTON</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This question was posted on the yahoo.com.my</p>
<p>â€œShould the government protect Proton from foreign competition?â€</p>
<p>more than 65% respondence agree to â€œNo protection please. Proton needs to compete globally or sink â€</p>
<p>Having to raise my children, I know we to let them learn by themselves. </p>
<p>Our son Proton is now 30 years old, still studying in the University, and when there was a big bully push him around, father have to make a trip to the school to inform the teacher , and look for the bully.</p>
<p>Poor old father is now 65+ and one will imagine how long will father still need to do this.</p>
<p>Our son Proton graduated and started working is a big firm, at now age 40, married and have child of his own, his manager scolded our son proton and make him do the report again, poor old father, now at age 75+, DO YOU THINK HE NEED TO GO TO THE OFFICE TO SCOLD THE MANAGER.</p>
<p>GROW UP PROTON</p>
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		<title>By: wa sea hokkien lang too</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-5388</link>
		<dc:creator>wa sea hokkien lang too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RM 150k ok mah wait .. wait... i&#039;m not finish yet.. everybody can buy this shit.. but when installment?... walau... not that, try major service  oh my goddes!!! can you image that. my brother sentra major service in over 1000 that can pay 1 month installment.i think who ever had this (for middle class)their weight can reduce 80% why not must save everyday.... pee at public tiolet think twice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RM 150k ok mah wait .. wait&#8230; i&#8217;m not finish yet.. everybody can buy this shit.. but when installment?&#8230; walau&#8230; not that, try major service  oh my goddes!!! can you image that. my brother sentra major service in over 1000 that can pay 1 month installment.i think who ever had this (for middle class)their weight can reduce 80% why not must save everyday&#8230;. pee at public tiolet think twice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Proton Ultimate Updates &#187;  paultan.org - Cars, technology, gadgets, and alot of other random stuff.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-5370</link>
		<dc:creator>Proton Ultimate Updates &#187;  paultan.org - Cars, technology, gadgets, and alot of other random stuff.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] . Details available here.   	Related Posts: Proton Ultimate - Proton Sports Car Road Test? An Insight into the Proton Ultimate&#8217;s Specification [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Proton Ultimate - Proton Sports Car Road Test? &#187;  paultan.org - Cars, technology, gadgets, and alot of other random stuff.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-5367</link>
		<dc:creator>Proton Ultimate - Proton Sports Car Road Test? &#187;  paultan.org - Cars, technology, gadgets, and alot of other random stuff.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2005 09:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nt of Proton styling there. 	Related Posts: Proton Ultimate - Proton Sports Car Road Test? An Insight into the Proton Ultimate&#8217;s Specification [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Toomy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-5112</link>
		<dc:creator>Toomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya loh. Lotus tech? Pui...I bet they only using the name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya loh. Lotus tech? Pui&#8230;I bet they only using the name.</p>
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		<title>By: uefa2k</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-4800</link>
		<dc:creator>uefa2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All surfers, looking at the pics of MYVI &amp; sassy/savvy.. of course MYVI wins all compare to savvy/sassy. Even the names got to be change twice...how sad! Sassy will be another history like it&#039;s predecessor tiara. Wht a ugly look? Can&#039;t proton ever learned to employed a better designer? Just ugly like its tiara, juara... How can proton compete to its 2nd national car? U know what is technology? Wht is VVTI / DVVT / VTEC? Comm&#039;on we are so far behind... even toyota offering DUAL VVTI in its Altezza model. Wake up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All surfers, looking at the pics of MYVI &amp; sassy/savvy.. of course MYVI wins all compare to savvy/sassy. Even the names got to be change twice&#8230;how sad! Sassy will be another history like it&#8217;s predecessor tiara. Wht a ugly look? Can&#8217;t proton ever learned to employed a better designer? Just ugly like its tiara, juara&#8230; How can proton compete to its 2nd national car? U know what is technology? Wht is VVTI / DVVT / VTEC? Comm&#8217;on we are so far behind&#8230; even toyota offering DUAL VVTI in its Altezza model. Wake up!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-4351</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2005 02:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spent: it&#039;s just that way. the current campro engines do not have campro technology. you can check out the gen2&#039;s specs on proton edar&#039;s homepage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spent: it&#8217;s just that way. the current campro engines do not have campro technology. you can check out the gen2&#8217;s specs on proton edar&#8217;s homepage.</p>
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		<title>By: spent</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-4342</link>
		<dc:creator>spent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and how u know that??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and how u know that??</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-4248</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>karheng: gen2&#039;s engine is called campro, but it&#039;s without campro. get what i mean? lol. campro is supposed to be proton&#039;s variable valve timing system similiar to honda&#039;s vtec, daihatsu/perodua&#039;s dvvt, nissan&#039;s neo-vvl and toyota&#039;s vvti.

but it&#039;s not in the engine yet. the campro in the gen2 is a normal dohc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>karheng: gen2&#8217;s engine is called campro, but it&#8217;s without campro. get what i mean? lol. campro is supposed to be proton&#8217;s variable valve timing system similiar to honda&#8217;s vtec, daihatsu/perodua&#8217;s dvvt, nissan&#8217;s neo-vvl and toyota&#8217;s vvti.</p>
<p>but it&#8217;s not in the engine yet. the campro in the gen2 is a normal dohc.</p>
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		<title>By: KL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not juz car like subaru impreza.... a gtr would have cost around tat price.... so basically proton satria is off worthless there... 

(same Q) doesnt gen2 carries campro? as how SRM soon to have???

Rm150k? i am expecting more than RM300k</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not juz car like subaru impreza&#8230;. a gtr would have cost around tat price&#8230;. so basically proton satria is off worthless there&#8230; </p>
<p>(same Q) doesnt gen2 carries campro? as how SRM soon to have???</p>
<p>Rm150k? i am expecting more than RM300k</p>
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		<title>By: karheng</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-4244</link>
		<dc:creator>karheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t the gen2 have a 1.6 campro engine? *puzzled*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t the gen2 have a 1.6 campro engine? *puzzled*</p>
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		<title>By: Chapree Da Grande</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-4234</link>
		<dc:creator>Chapree Da Grande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, typical Malaysian mah, promises so hardly fulfilled.

But I like the look judging from the spy shot of the test car. As long it&#039;s priced less than 300k, can attract buyer alrdy. Hell, i think my dad would consider one if it&#039;s RM150k *LOL*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, typical Malaysian mah, promises so hardly fulfilled.</p>
<p>But I like the look judging from the spy shot of the test car. As long it&#8217;s priced less than 300k, can attract buyer alrdy. Hell, i think my dad would consider one if it&#8217;s RM150k *LOL*</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-4232</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>andrew: hehe i know. there&#039;s actually ALOT of press releases that Proton released outside of malaysia full of bullshit and deadlines that are never met.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andrew: hehe i know. there&#8217;s actually ALOT of press releases that Proton released outside of malaysia full of bullshit and deadlines that are never met.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-4231</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you realise that the article was written in 2000 and Proton was meant to release the Ultimate in 2003?

We are in 2005 and Gen2 does not even have CAMPRO yet!

By the way, I think Proton has severed its relationship with Petronas and thus Gen2/CAMPRO is not the legendary 100hp/ltr unit!

Ultimate disaster!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you realise that the article was written in 2000 and Proton was meant to release the Ultimate in 2003?</p>
<p>We are in 2005 and Gen2 does not even have CAMPRO yet!</p>
<p>By the way, I think Proton has severed its relationship with Petronas and thus Gen2/CAMPRO is not the legendary 100hp/ltr unit!</p>
<p>Ultimate disaster!</p>
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		<title>By: Acid</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-4229</link>
		<dc:creator>Acid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice site here paul. any say about the toyota vios? i saw some sites on how they did conversion to the vios and it looks superb. was hoping to read ur comments in here though. keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice site here paul. any say about the toyota vios? i saw some sites on how they did conversion to the vios and it looks superb. was hoping to read ur comments in here though. keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: 8555</title>
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		<dc:creator>8555</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 04:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wished my parents at Proton gave me those rims instead of those crappy 13&quot;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wished my parents at Proton gave me those rims instead of those crappy 13&#8243;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: karheng</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/02/an-insight-into-the-proton-ultimates-specifications/#comment-4220</link>
		<dc:creator>karheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 02:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well for starters, the Satria GTi did cost about 25k in Australia. It was not popular. Simply because for the same price, you get cars with bigger engine displacement and space too.

To be fair, a Subaru Impreza 2.0 retails around that price too. Which would you choose?

So the conversion is direct. What I do know about imported cars in Oz is that when it&#039;s 40-50k, you know you&#039;re in for a treat. And any cars 30k and above are almost luxurious or powerful. A BMW 318i 2.0 retails around 40-50k. So when you convert it to Malaysian, it&#039;s around 120-150k, and just multiply it by 2, and you get Malaysian pricing. Hopefully that&#039;s not going to be the idea for the Ultimate lah! 

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for starters, the Satria GTi did cost about 25k in Australia. It was not popular. Simply because for the same price, you get cars with bigger engine displacement and space too.</p>
<p>To be fair, a Subaru Impreza 2.0 retails around that price too. Which would you choose?</p>
<p>So the conversion is direct. What I do know about imported cars in Oz is that when it&#8217;s 40-50k, you know you&#8217;re in for a treat. And any cars 30k and above are almost luxurious or powerful. A BMW 318i 2.0 retails around 40-50k. So when you convert it to Malaysian, it&#8217;s around 120-150k, and just multiply it by 2, and you get Malaysian pricing. Hopefully that&#8217;s not going to be the idea for the Ultimate lah! </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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