Adan oh Adan, “Engkau ni apa, salesman Proton ke?” If you would like to defend Proton so much you may continue but the actual fact is that Proton isn’t producing any car of satisfatory quality. Proton will never improve enough to compete with the better players. I would personally pick Perodua as the better(infact much better off) of the 2 national cars(I don’t think the others can be considered national cars just by changing badges-Naza, Inokom).

Stupid philip still dun know that perodua is no longer a national car but just a rebadged daihatsu under toyota control.

now, my comment –

Proton car’s problem’s in Sarawak
- Power window (will fall down, cable putus etc..)
- suspension (hahaha i like this the most) usually will not last 6 months, squeaking ekkke eeeek, too damm forkin low, maybe proton RnD FORGET that most sarawak roads are forkin bumpy(heck, some are even suitable for WRC championship event !!)
- water seeping in (lampu belakang, depan) hehe i’ve even saw iswara front light full of water, can keep a goldfish inside …

weakness in proton car
- body is not strong (thus, the nickname “milo can car”, Ouch!)
- price too expensive (aduhhh ehhh) for such a low tech car like this, if u wanna sell more, lower the price please, most people buy proton coz its affordable, but not now, foreign cars are gettin cheaper n cheaper, u guys will not win a war u cant win if u dont listen to us consumer !!!!

and by the way, at my school, im the only teacher who using non proton car – the others are using protong’s, all of them complained n complained (hehe) about their car, most of them bought proton coz its the cheapest car but did not expected it to be junk like this … did alotta brainwashing asking them to change to other car – stay away from proton …….

And by the way, my toyota … hehehe … although its an old car… mind you, i’ve smoked wira, waja, iswara, satria n even perdana in it …. wanna try?

My advice DON’t Buy PRoton !!! Becoz Proton Killz… because now’s day when i open the newspaper… Almost 90% of accident is PRoton. 80% ppl didn’t Survial in accident…

SO think wise ~
Think For those ppl u love…
For Your live !!!!
NO PROTON !!!!

I’m regret in buying my waja. Should buy Vios/City since day one.

ada proton punya people see this ke?

—> They have been seeing this since day 1 their saga was launched. But the Blind and Deaf policies of the directors rather quiet about it and today…globalization is on the brink and its time to feel their wrath ~

I’m completely agree with you and to the rest of the person who has own the proton cars before. Saya sendiri pun pernah ada kereta proton, proton wira 1.8 exi you………. but the damn car has giving me nothing but problems, problems with the engine mounting la, steering brackket la, alignment la and even with the so called Proton Service Centers personels. I’ve once hantar my proton for 10000 km service and to repair the exhaust housing which cause the vibration noise (tengok ! belum sampai 50000 km sudah ada problem) and the service personel said to me the word TAK APA….. esok boleh bikin maa…., proton apa ini macam ??????, Up to that point and until now, never I trust any car made by proton. and you know what after that, 2 bln kemudian i jual balik and i bought the toyota altis. until now my toyota altis haven’t give me any problem maa, what dou think ????? I had driven my toyota altis from johor to perak already (in the year 2003) and until now the mileage is nearly 300000 km++, still no problem, it is still strong overtaking 3 car at one at the highway. proton wira can do like that ka ???? sori la kawan. anyway, to all of the proton owners out there, change your cars to other brands before it is too late. dah la kereta proton mahal nak mampus, kualiti tak dak pulak. HOI PROTON !!!! TUTUP KILANG LAGI BAGUS, DON’T WASTE THE MALAYSIAN MONEY BY MAKING THE USELESS AND UNRELIABLE CARS. JANGAN SOKONG PROTON……

proton aeroback 1.6 a (1998)…very noisy engine, rusting roof and doors

proton iswara (bought as 2nd hand)….auto tranmission replacement, power windows, suspension problems,

and as for other protons, they dont even dare to publsih the 01-100kmh figures, for the fear of “embarassment…a waja 1.6 is actually slower tha a toyota vios 1.5 in 0-100kmh, a diffeence of 2 seconds!!

i acttually nearly bought a proton wira, but luckily defer my decision …lousy color choice, and more than10 years body/techonology!!

after so many teribble experinces, u can be absolutely sure that my next car would not be a proton..the proton has been too arrogant for too long…what, they want another 20 years of government protection so they can continue to sell us 20-30 year old cars at exorbicant prices, and rips us off?

Its poor quality has spoke for itself, proven over times and need not be deliberately point out one by one here.

We are victims of this policy and vision.This national car is being developed and sold at our expense, with our own sweat and blood-covered money. Until a new and fair import duty and car policy are announced and in placed, all Malaysians, be it buying Proton or Non-national cars, Bumis or non-bumis are funnelling their hard-earn salary for a unfair system.

We are buying natinal car because the distorted system make it more expensive to buy foreign cars. Toyota Corrolla was selling at 15K, 20 years ago, but, now it is some 100K++. A Nissan Sentra 1.6 without tax is some 56K only and people still make money? This is the in-justice we need to cope with if you ever decided to buy a car.

And then there is AP policy. Does it help? What went wrong now, could it be “not even distributed”?

To cut the story short, we Malaysians are all victims, it is true for those that buying a Proton now, or buying a better Perodua or a Korean or a Japs.

To everyone, especially those thinking of buying a car, here is some advice:
(a) If you can affort, buy what ever you desire.
(b) If you can wait, put your money into investment. That would do better.
(c) if you really need to buy a car as our public transport system is so poorly designed, buy a second hand car.

For a second hand Proton car: it makes not different, you will get all the headaches as a new car do but it is a lot more cheaper! and you do not need to wait, did not get the kind of colour…. so on and so on…

For second hand imported car, your tax and duties were pay off by the first owner, and you still enjoy a good car and a good re-sell value.

For those that still cann’t differentiate between their love of their country and their rationality: go ahead, buy a national car, we can immediately recon you from a far.

Do the above until the day we have a fair car duty system or acceptable national car, whichever come first.

Speed? An advertisement was saying someone delivering pizza from KL to Singapore in 30 minutes…. and the top speed of Savvy is 170kmh. Well, do the maths, 30 minutes only cover a distance of 85km. How could one reach Singapore from KL in 30 minutes by driving at 170kmh? Those who came out with the advertisement are really insulting our intelligence.

Another advertisement is about a driver with her eyes covered and driving a Savvy in a busy street. What was the advertisement trying to tell potential customer? Strong body build? Isn’t that naive to believe that customer will buy the Savvy because it can withstand wild ride in a busy street. The marketing people are either do not understand what the consumers want or they cannot find any good and strong selling points for the Savvy. Thus, they have to resort to advertisements that make little sense.

A car manufacturer that is able to come out with good cars may not guaranteed survival (Lotus and MGRover?) Having a totally new platform for Savvy and Gen2 may not be a smart move. If they cannot achieve a reasonable sales, they will not achieve the economy of scale. The cost of these cars will not be able to compete with the rest in the market. It is not a matter of wether their cars are having quality problem or not, if they cannot bring down the production cost in a few years, quality is irrelevant. It has become a downward cycle for Proton. Without good quality car, they cannot sell, without sales, they cannot make good profit to pump back to R&D, without good R&D, the car manufacturer will suffer more in quality issues and will not be able to come out with new future replacement models. Eventually, it will be forced out of the market.

As for the design i kinda like the Gen2 design better than the Myvi looks a bit compressed. But at the same time worried about the maintenance and quality.
So far i haven’t heard from a real Gen2 user that they have a problem with their car but they agreed about the door problem, yet so far they said ok, but from a none Gen2 users all critisise like hell..

Does anyone can confirmed me: the rumors of the first Gen2 released had been ask to be returned back to the factory 24hrs due to bad performance and several problems accured?

1) External outlook is good, in fact the best for me compare with all Proton other models

2) Internal design i kinda like it when i look at it again n again. except for the stupid weird clock design in the middle of it. i hope for a digital clock instead of analog one

3) the door is difficult to open, at times it can be really really difficult to open the door. same for the boot. cannot open from external. very troublesome. yet is very difficult to get it open. they should incooperate automatic opening of it (nice suggestion)

4) during test drive, feeling no power for 1.6 campro engine. do not know why, but smooth drinving though.

5) Still having the exact brake sound during braking like my wira 1.5 1996 model

6) so far no break down… but in future i do not know la. hopefully they have improve on the quality by now.

Lastly, i will not be buying proton for my next car for sure. i would rather buy produa or korean car. They PROVE to have better quality and less problem face. I do not want to buy a car that worry me too much on the quality or maintanance cost. Even if Gen 2 have perfected its quality, they have not PROVE it so far.

To Proton, pls PROVE to us and not only let us know. HOW? i guess proton have to think for it. Good Luck proton

zizie

I can out run any proton below 1.6 except waja and have fuel consumption better than any car offered by proton or perodua

I’m just like any Proton owners out there. Bad experinces and lots of frustation owning Proton cars. My 96′ Satria and 01′ Wira had almost similar quality defect and that’s 5 years apart. During this time I guess not much improvement on Quality. Now its 05′ another 4 years apart and still have so called similar Quality defects again. Come on man..Proton. How you want me to buy another car from you..?

look here, not as we want proton to die, give us (the buyer) what we want, then we will buy your car.