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		<title>By: Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-41373</link>
		<dc:creator>Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Replacement Model showroom spyshots Proton family out for a drive Satria Replacement Model spyshots Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo Satria Replacement Model - Karak Highway Satria Replacement Model - PLUSHighway [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Replacement Model showroom spyshots Proton family out for a drive Satria Replacement Model spyshots Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo Satria Replacement Model &#8211; Karak Highway Satria Replacement Model &#8211; PLUSHighway [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SRM in Australia early 2006 &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-41257</link>
		<dc:creator>SRM in Australia early 2006 &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Satria Replacement Model to get Kleemann Supercharger Proton Satria Replacement Model filling up at Esso Satria Replacement Model Road Tests Satria Replacement Model showroom spyshots Proton family out for a drive Satria Replacement Model spyshots Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo Satria Replacement Model - Karak Highway [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Satria Replacement Model to get Kleemann Supercharger Proton Satria Replacement Model filling up at Esso Satria Replacement Model Road Tests Satria Replacement Model showroom spyshots Proton family out for a drive Satria Replacement Model spyshots Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo Satria Replacement Model &#8211; Karak Highway [...]</p>
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		<title>By: old man</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-41246</link>
		<dc:creator>old man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is:

1. Before 1985, meaning before we have PROTON, one HONDA ACCORD costed RM 20,000. After PROTON SAGA was launched at RM 27,500 (1985), import tariff to protect PROTON SAGA made the HONDA ACCORD RM 45,000 (1985). For those who are old enough, I think they still remember the joy when they actually profitted from selling their second hand HONDA, at the price more than their purchased price.

Conclusion: the existence of PROTON really sucks our money, and many of us still happy with that.

2. In US, annual income less than USD 10,800 is below poverty line, meaning you are poor, you are entitled to get at least USD 200 government allowance/subsidies monthly. In US, average income is USD 30,000 annual, and one CAMRY costs less than USD 30,000; meaning by working one year, don&#039;t eat, don&#039;t go shopping, the CAMRY is yours. Here in Malaysia, those with annual income of RM 18,000, get a PROTON at RM 50,000 - RM 60,000 with nine years loan, still very proud of our national car?

Conclusion: Malaysians are happy go lucky, taking nine years loans to have a car still very happy (not own, because the purchase agreement states &quot;the bank&quot; own the car). Anyway, we are tough, the government keep sucking our money, we still alive, Malaysia Boleh!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is:</p>
<p>1. Before 1985, meaning before we have PROTON, one HONDA ACCORD costed RM 20,000. After PROTON SAGA was launched at RM 27,500 (1985), import tariff to protect PROTON SAGA made the HONDA ACCORD RM 45,000 (1985). For those who are old enough, I think they still remember the joy when they actually profitted from selling their second hand HONDA, at the price more than their purchased price.</p>
<p>Conclusion: the existence of PROTON really sucks our money, and many of us still happy with that.</p>
<p>2. In US, annual income less than USD 10,800 is below poverty line, meaning you are poor, you are entitled to get at least USD 200 government allowance/subsidies monthly. In US, average income is USD 30,000 annual, and one CAMRY costs less than USD 30,000; meaning by working one year, don&#8217;t eat, don&#8217;t go shopping, the CAMRY is yours. Here in Malaysia, those with annual income of RM 18,000, get a PROTON at RM 50,000 &#8211; RM 60,000 with nine years loan, still very proud of our national car?</p>
<p>Conclusion: Malaysians are happy go lucky, taking nine years loans to have a car still very happy (not own, because the purchase agreement states &#8220;the bank&#8221; own the car). Anyway, we are tough, the government keep sucking our money, we still alive, Malaysia Boleh!!!</p>
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		<title>By: New Satria Replacement Model Spyshots &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-41181</link>
		<dc:creator>New Satria Replacement Model Spyshots &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Model Road Tests Satria Replacement Model showroom spyshots Proton family out for a drive Satria Replacement Model spyshots Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo Satria Replacement Model - Karak Highway Satria ReplacementModel - PLUS Highway [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Model Road Tests Satria Replacement Model showroom spyshots Proton family out for a drive Satria Replacement Model spyshots Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo Satria Replacement Model &#8211; Karak Highway Satria ReplacementModel &#8211; PLUS Highway [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Satria Replacement Model to get Kleemann Supercharger &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-40479</link>
		<dc:creator>Satria Replacement Model to get Kleemann Supercharger &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Waja Z Supercharged with Kleemann - 150hp Satria Replacement Model to get Kleemann Supercharger Proton Satria Replacement Model filling up at Esso Satria Replacement Model Road Tests SatriaReplacement Model showroom spyshots Proton family out for a drive Satria Replacement Model spyshots Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo Satria Replacement Model - Karak Highway Satria Replacement Model - PLUS Highway Proton Satria Replacement Model Video [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Waja Z Supercharged with Kleemann &#8211; 150hp Satria Replacement Model to get Kleemann Supercharger Proton Satria Replacement Model filling up at Esso Satria Replacement Model Road Tests SatriaReplacement Model showroom spyshots Proton family out for a drive Satria Replacement Model spyshots Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo Satria Replacement Model &#8211; Karak Highway Satria Replacement Model &#8211; PLUS Highway Proton Satria Replacement Model Video [...]</p>
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		<title>By: preence</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-40405</link>
		<dc:creator>preence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 07:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see some fanatics here who would go to the grave for Proton -- keep it up lozers!
There&#039;s one saying by a moron called Adan that got me into writing this... &quot;for if not for Proton, in 1985, most of Malaysians will be on kapcais or the Mini bus&quot;.
That&#039;s an absolute misconception bro... if not for Proton, we wouldn&#039;t have had to pay a f**kin RM80k for a Vios, or RM115k for a Civic.  Go look at the car prices in Thailand and Singapore (minus the COE).  Proton is a daytime robber.  Do you think these milo-tins worth so much. Gimme a break. If you village fellas don&#039;t know what what quality by all means go ahead and lick proton&#039;s bumper all day all night,  but there&#039;s a big bunch of us Malaysians who expect a sense of value for wat we pay for. Malaysia boleh = Boleh Tiru, Boleh Tipu, Boleh Kalah, Boleh Action. %$#!@!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see some fanatics here who would go to the grave for Proton &#8212; keep it up lozers!<br />
There&#8217;s one saying by a moron called Adan that got me into writing this&#8230; &#8220;for if not for Proton, in 1985, most of Malaysians will be on kapcais or the Mini bus&#8221;.<br />
That&#8217;s an absolute misconception bro&#8230; if not for Proton, we wouldn&#8217;t have had to pay a f**kin RM80k for a Vios, or RM115k for a Civic.  Go look at the car prices in Thailand and Singapore (minus the COE).  Proton is a daytime robber.  Do you think these milo-tins worth so much. Gimme a break. If you village fellas don&#8217;t know what what quality by all means go ahead and lick proton&#8217;s bumper all day all night,  but there&#8217;s a big bunch of us Malaysians who expect a sense of value for wat we pay for. Malaysia boleh = Boleh Tiru, Boleh Tipu, Boleh Kalah, Boleh Action. %$#!@!</p>
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		<title>By: Siva</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-40224</link>
		<dc:creator>Siva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard through the grapevines that the new Satria Replacement Model will be called the Proton Satria Neo. If that&#039;s true, good job Proton on keeping the Satria name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard through the grapevines that the new Satria Replacement Model will be called the Proton Satria Neo. If that&#8217;s true, good job Proton on keeping the Satria name.</p>
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		<title>By: Proton Satria Replacement Model 1.3 liter &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-39035</link>
		<dc:creator>Proton Satria Replacement Model 1.3 liter &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 09:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rumours are that the SRM will be launched very very soon, it could be even next week. Price range should be around the Gen2&#8217;s prices, perhaps slightly less. We&#8217;ll see how the car really looks like when it is launched. Especially the interior, since uncamoflaged photos of the SRM exterior were available for quite some time. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rumours are that the SRM will be launched very very soon, it could be even next week. Price range should be around the Gen2&#8217;s prices, perhaps slightly less. We&#8217;ll see how the car really looks like when it is launched. Especially the interior, since uncamoflaged photos of the SRM exterior were available for quite some time. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: echun79</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-39027</link>
		<dc:creator>echun79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 05:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my point of view, good or bad of this car is depend on its price. 
 RM40000, i rather buy a second hand Honda civic. 
Proton technology is 15+ years behind Jap/Korean tech, 20+ years behind europ car!!

p/s: Mine 84 years old volvo is still running on the road, with powersteering and power windows. I never have problem on power windows since bought it 7 years ago when 1:1 trade-in with my lousy proton SAGA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my point of view, good or bad of this car is depend on its price.<br />
 RM40000, i rather buy a second hand Honda civic.<br />
Proton technology is 15+ years behind Jap/Korean tech, 20+ years behind europ car!!</p>
<p>p/s: Mine 84 years old volvo is still running on the road, with powersteering and power windows. I never have problem on power windows since bought it 7 years ago when 1:1 trade-in with my lousy proton SAGA.</p>
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		<title>By: raybrig85</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-38267</link>
		<dc:creator>raybrig85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 11:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha...very stupid comment frm all people who are backing proton...x pkir ke bler ckp...ade stengah bende tu korang ckp...ckp kosong...ckp cam org bodoh...okla...u guyz can surf at dis site...www.autozine.org...www.topgear.com....all of u can see the comments and verdict that all car journalist outside m&#039;sia n PROFFESIONAL says about proton...pity proton...buat malu je...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha&#8230;very stupid comment frm all people who are backing proton&#8230;x pkir ke bler ckp&#8230;ade stengah bende tu korang ckp&#8230;ckp kosong&#8230;ckp cam org bodoh&#8230;okla&#8230;u guyz can surf at dis site&#8230;www.autozine.org&#8230;www.topgear.com&#8230;.all of u can see the comments and verdict that all car journalist outside m&#8217;sia n PROFFESIONAL says about proton&#8230;pity proton&#8230;buat malu je&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Satria Replacement Model Road Tests &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-33543</link>
		<dc:creator>Satria Replacement Model Road Tests &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For full undisguised photos, there are some available here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For full undisguised photos, there are some available here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Protonier</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-29705</link>
		<dc:creator>Protonier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dogx, you&#039;re damn right. Wake up all the management staff/b.o.directors, give us something more worth 4 money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogx, you&#8217;re damn right. Wake up all the management staff/b.o.directors, give us something more worth 4 money</p>
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		<title>By: Khalid</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-29702</link>
		<dc:creator>Khalid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, we malaysian don&#039;t care much about design. That one can refer to kedai potong, or accessories. But quality wise, ini masalah yg Proton should look into.And I can&#039;t agree more with some yg kata export version is a lot better. Tak boleh ka Proton gives better quality cars to Malaysians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, we malaysian don&#8217;t care much about design. That one can refer to kedai potong, or accessories. But quality wise, ini masalah yg Proton should look into.And I can&#8217;t agree more with some yg kata export version is a lot better. Tak boleh ka Proton gives better quality cars to Malaysians?</p>
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		<title>By: lie</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-28212</link>
		<dc:creator>lie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice.x pe,keluar je kite test ok x ok!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice.x pe,keluar je kite test ok x ok!</p>
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		<title>By: trm user</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-27714</link>
		<dc:creator>trm user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;sakit hati&#039;

kalau setakat nak kutuk baik tak payah...
kalau x cantik jangan beli duk diam jee..
comment x salah tapi yang pentingnya jaga ayat tu...
manusia reka tak ada yang sebaik tuhan yang reka....
oleh itu cubalah kita berdoa agar automobil negara kita maju....
p/s: mana ada budak lahir terus bley berjalan...(kecuali nabi)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8217;sakit hati&#8217;</p>
<p>kalau setakat nak kutuk baik tak payah&#8230;<br />
kalau x cantik jangan beli duk diam jee..<br />
comment x salah tapi yang pentingnya jaga ayat tu&#8230;<br />
manusia reka tak ada yang sebaik tuhan yang reka&#8230;.<br />
oleh itu cubalah kita berdoa agar automobil negara kita maju&#8230;.<br />
p/s: mana ada budak lahir terus bley berjalan&#8230;(kecuali nabi)</p>
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		<title>By: LocTech</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-27350</link>
		<dc:creator>LocTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>others HAD produced MUCH MUCH more uglier design than POTONG! If you guys hated Proton design then go buy yourself a Renault Kangoo, or Ssangyong Stavic, hey... maybe even get urself a &#039;nice&#039; Fiat Panda (if you can afford it laaaa... pathetic)

I&#039;m not into critic and throwing bull at others but the so called &#039;high-minded&#039; ppl of Malaysia thinking in the same &#039;well of thoughts inside the toilet while shitting&#039; need to know something... cars are beautiful and it&#039;ll worth to the eyes of beholder... if you think something&#039;s ugly then don&#039;t have to go and buy it. There are lots of other option out there to have, and if you&#039;re saying you don&#039;t have the money to buy those other average cars is just because you are too lazy to think of good money management, and you dont have patience. You are just too upset with your own failures in money management and you can&#039;t afford those like others did. Dey... in the end, u find something to blame at... POTONG! The scapegoat of my failure to afford meself a Toyota, Nissan, BMW and so other models... Miahahahahaha... pathetic crew.

(don&#039;t believe me? read carefully most of the critics parasentences.... :P)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>others HAD produced MUCH MUCH more uglier design than POTONG! If you guys hated Proton design then go buy yourself a Renault Kangoo, or Ssangyong Stavic, hey&#8230; maybe even get urself a &#8216;nice&#8217; Fiat Panda (if you can afford it laaaa&#8230; pathetic)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not into critic and throwing bull at others but the so called &#8216;high-minded&#8217; ppl of Malaysia thinking in the same &#8216;well of thoughts inside the toilet while shitting&#8217; need to know something&#8230; cars are beautiful and it&#8217;ll worth to the eyes of beholder&#8230; if you think something&#8217;s ugly then don&#8217;t have to go and buy it. There are lots of other option out there to have, and if you&#8217;re saying you don&#8217;t have the money to buy those other average cars is just because you are too lazy to think of good money management, and you dont have patience. You are just too upset with your own failures in money management and you can&#8217;t afford those like others did. Dey&#8230; in the end, u find something to blame at&#8230; POTONG! The scapegoat of my failure to afford meself a Toyota, Nissan, BMW and so other models&#8230; Miahahahahaha&#8230; pathetic crew.</p>
<p>(don&#8217;t believe me? read carefully most of the critics parasentences&#8230;. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Satria Replacement Model - PLUS Highway &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-26308</link>
		<dc:creator>Satria Replacement Model - PLUS Highway &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 06:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Satria Replacement Model to get Kleemann Supercharger Proton Satria Replacement Model filling up at Esso Satria Replacement Model Road Tests Satria Replacement Model showroom spyshots Proton family out for a drive Satria Replacement Model spyshots Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo Satria Replacement Model - Karak Highway Satria Replacement Model - PLUS Highway [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Satria Replacement Model to get Kleemann Supercharger Proton Satria Replacement Model filling up at Esso Satria Replacement Model Road Tests Satria Replacement Model showroom spyshots Proton family out for a drive Satria Replacement Model spyshots Proton Satria Replacement Model Turbo Satria Replacement Model &#8211; Karak Highway Satria Replacement Model &#8211; PLUS Highway [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-25952</link>
		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 06:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear burnmark,do you have long-sighted or myopic ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear burnmark,do you have long-sighted or myopic ?</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-25948</link>
		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 05:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patut cadangkan kpd Proton supaya setiap model terbarunya diletakkan logo company lain dulu,like toyota or honda .Kita tengok apa reaksi orang ramai kutuk ke puji.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patut cadangkan kpd Proton supaya setiap model terbarunya diletakkan logo company lain dulu,like toyota or honda .Kita tengok apa reaksi orang ramai kutuk ke puji.</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-25947</link>
		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 05:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bangau,tak dengki,and batman,bravo for your view.By the way,bangau ,are you working with NST&#039;s Cars,Bikes&amp;Trucks team?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bangau,tak dengki,and batman,bravo for your view.By the way,bangau ,are you working with NST&#8217;s Cars,Bikes&amp;Trucks team?</p>
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		<title>By: Malaysian car sucks</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-25249</link>
		<dc:creator>Malaysian car sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn..
I seriously wanna flip my finger to Proton.Burn in  hell!</description>
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I seriously wanna flip my finger to Proton.Burn in  hell!</p>
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		<title>By: movesitive</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-25159</link>
		<dc:creator>movesitive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just nice. we&#039;ll wait and see for the performance. don&#039;t judge a book by its cover. :-)</description>
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		<title>By: Au Tze hon</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-24137</link>
		<dc:creator>Au Tze hon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanna milk money mah</description>
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		<title>By: burnmark</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-24005</link>
		<dc:creator>burnmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aiyo soooo ugly one...alredi got savvy still wana produced a similiar type eh ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aiyo soooo ugly one&#8230;alredi got savvy still wana produced a similiar type eh ?</p>
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		<title>By: someone</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-23509</link>
		<dc:creator>someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wish proton produce a new model to compete with vios and city. but make sure it offers nearly the same quality but on lower price hehe.i think it is possible bcoz new city sold in thailand for around 46k to 62k only. but here in malaysia, 89k. so if proton can produce something like city and vios and sell it around 50k to 60k, it will most welcome.
thanx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish proton produce a new model to compete with vios and city. but make sure it offers nearly the same quality but on lower price hehe.i think it is possible bcoz new city sold in thailand for around 46k to 62k only. but here in malaysia, 89k. so if proton can produce something like city and vios and sell it around 50k to 60k, it will most welcome.<br />
thanx.</p>
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		<title>By: dogx</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-23321</link>
		<dc:creator>dogx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton will always be Proton...wether it&#039;s already 20 years or the coming next 20 years.  No one here has a say in the company of what they should do and what they shounldn&#039;t do...even if we wrote and protest or rally..they will never change..u know why?...because they are always and forever will be, taking care of their pockets instead of the countries well being.  Just admit it lah.  With that kind of attitude ah, nothing will change for any company, the only thing that will change, that the families involved, their futures will be guaranteed for the rest of their lives.  No more worries for them. Because they can keep driving Japan/Europe made cars as lond as we keep buying local made cars.  I don&#039;t think any CEO of Proton will have no imported cars in their garage.  They might be driving a proton to work, that&#039;s because they are forced to, to jaga the image lah, but if given a choice, I don&#039;t think they would want to.  Trust me lah....it&#039;s not Proton that is the problem, it&#039;s the people who work in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton will always be Proton&#8230;wether it&#8217;s already 20 years or the coming next 20 years.  No one here has a say in the company of what they should do and what they shounldn&#8217;t do&#8230;even if we wrote and protest or rally..they will never change..u know why?&#8230;because they are always and forever will be, taking care of their pockets instead of the countries well being.  Just admit it lah.  With that kind of attitude ah, nothing will change for any company, the only thing that will change, that the families involved, their futures will be guaranteed for the rest of their lives.  No more worries for them. Because they can keep driving Japan/Europe made cars as lond as we keep buying local made cars.  I don&#8217;t think any CEO of Proton will have no imported cars in their garage.  They might be driving a proton to work, that&#8217;s because they are forced to, to jaga the image lah, but if given a choice, I don&#8217;t think they would want to.  Trust me lah&#8230;.it&#8217;s not Proton that is the problem, it&#8217;s the people who work in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zul masscom</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-23292</link>
		<dc:creator>Zul masscom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>weh!!! cantik ar model tu, tapi ade jugak yang kurengnye di mata aku... pandangan depan keta nampak menarik,tapi sekali bila di pandang kat bahagian belakang nampak tak menarik...aku rase model srm24 ni akan nampak cambest lagi kalo dijadikan family car(4pintu) mungkin akan akan nampak lebih mewah n sporty,tapi bagi aku srm24 still nampak menarik dimata aku, lagi satu aku paling tak suke orang2 cni dok asik ngutuk keta model tempatan...macam bagos je, kalo duit banyak buleh ar cite...sesak2 pun nanti keta tempatan gak yang korang tumpang kalo keta IMPORT korang tu tersadai tepi jalan yang kita tahu sentiasa sesak ngan keta tempatan....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>weh!!! cantik ar model tu, tapi ade jugak yang kurengnye di mata aku&#8230; pandangan depan keta nampak menarik,tapi sekali bila di pandang kat bahagian belakang nampak tak menarik&#8230;aku rase model srm24 ni akan nampak cambest lagi kalo dijadikan family car(4pintu) mungkin akan akan nampak lebih mewah n sporty,tapi bagi aku srm24 still nampak menarik dimata aku, lagi satu aku paling tak suke orang2 cni dok asik ngutuk keta model tempatan&#8230;macam bagos je, kalo duit banyak buleh ar cite&#8230;sesak2 pun nanti keta tempatan gak yang korang tumpang kalo keta IMPORT korang tu tersadai tepi jalan yang kita tahu sentiasa sesak ngan keta tempatan&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuning_Professional</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-21360</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuning_Professional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing&#039;s bad about this car, except for the exhaust. My sister said that having one exhaust in the middle will make the car fart (kentut). How silly her comment. As for me, the exhaust placement follows the 1999 model Lotus Elise, although it has one tailpipe.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing&#8217;s bad about this car, except for the exhaust. My sister said that having one exhaust in the middle will make the car fart (kentut). How silly her comment. As for me, the exhaust placement follows the 1999 model Lotus Elise, although it has one tailpipe&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: sky</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-17378</link>
		<dc:creator>sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aiyooooo...
rilek la..it ok wat this srm....look nice ma! dont compare malaysia car wit foreign manufacturer la...want more quality then invest more money la..right malaysian?ha!ha! live in malaysia then support malaysia la..i agree foreign car more quality,why?cos u have to lebur more money la....pls la dont use those rude word..it mirror we as malaysia citizen...conclusion:- that SRM is nice! i might consider to buy it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aiyooooo&#8230;<br />
rilek la..it ok wat this srm&#8230;.look nice ma! dont compare malaysia car wit foreign manufacturer la&#8230;want more quality then invest more money la..right malaysian?ha!ha! live in malaysia then support malaysia la..i agree foreign car more quality,why?cos u have to lebur more money la&#8230;.pls la dont use those rude word..it mirror we as malaysia citizen&#8230;conclusion:- that SRM is nice! i might consider to buy it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/06/24/satria-replacement-model-showroom-spyshot/#comment-16341</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 10:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton... its like feels a little like your 1st love, too good to be true.

after owning 2 alfa romeos - alfettas, the price prove too much of a deciding factor to drop the romancing with alfa and optd for a mega-valve saga back in the late 90&#039;s. my experience with the saga? lots of mid-nite drives on the ipoh roads and an accident which cost my dad 2k in repairs. But i have to say the relationship wasnt too bad, considering it was my 1st love with a proton. my dad kept the car for a while till my mum couldnt resist the cute little suzuki swift. i was a little sad considering my parents choose to keep the suzuki mini-van (those which look like a loaf of bread) and sell the proton. didnt understand back then but later i begin to realize that if the decision was on me, i would have done the same.

Proton... its like feels a little like your 1st love, it seem better kept as memories.

fast forward to present time, i was in a fix for 12 months deciding which proton to bet my money on after driving the Corolla XL - the sedan version of AE86 around for 5 years, if its not petrol price and the spares is getting harder to locate, i would have kept it longer. during CNY, i gave it a new paint job, recarpeted some interior parts and voila! a car good enough to stay committed to her and stay away from proton show room. well, it lasted another 6 months.

eventually i gave in, due to long distant travel along the coastline, the Corolla prove it can only serve me thus far. Bare in mind a 20-odd years car, driving from Alor Setar to Mersing in 10 hours and no break-down in all those years. by the time Myvi came around, the temptation proves to hard to resist. still, being a malaysia and a kid who use to dream driving a Satria GTI, i gave my benefit of the doubt for proton. numerous showroom visit, countless online research, and even a test drive on my friend Gen-2, one incident made the decision easy for me. i was walking into the proton showroom in Cyberjaya, within the Limkokwing University premise, i pass my ic, my driving licence, the saleman walkaway to make copies, i turn around and admire my future love, a black Gen-2. Sexiness just oozing from those curvy bodylines, that high and arching rear, whoosa! then i did something and spoil it all, i wanted to take a seat in the cabin. 1 pull, perhaps i skipped lunch, 2nd pull, maybe the door was lock, 3rd pull, &quot;i want my IC back!!!&quot;. in the end i have to put my hand againts the rear door panel, took a firm stance and lunged my body backward for one last pull.  i almost fell to the floor (well, you know how new proton showrooms are, white slippery tiles). i didnt proceed to seat in the car, 10 sec later i told the baffled saleman, i decided not to place my bookings.  2 months later.... im driving a gold colored Toyota Avanza, Auto 1.3.

Proton... its like feels a little like your 1st love, it never meant to last a lifetime.

lets all recall the last time we went shopping in a mall, doesnt retailers put thier best and newest product in front, where its most visible? doesnt retailers make sure thier window displays is the best to attract the customers? have you guys log-on to proton website, they even have a corporate video to explain thier interior design brief and concept. after 20 years, they still cant put a better car in a show room. by the way the Gen-2 i mentioned, was actually sold and waiting for delivery. all the best to the owners.

i have to agree to all posted comments, simply because everyone would have their own unique feel and experience with their beloved or disgusted protons. just like 1st love, some are with sweet and some are with bitter ending. some might want to go through it all over again, while others will be happily settled with their wife. but one glaring fact, 8 out of 10 relationship with proton seems to be an ex you dont want to meet again, thats depressing. 

fact-it only took proton 20 years to have their own R&amp;D center, auto city, university(soon). it took the korean longer to make anything you can associate with the word beautiful, let alone sexy (that doesnt include the latest Sonata, beware Hondas) 

fact-korean and japan, even China have much more economical scale to allow a totally new platform design for a new model every 10 year cycle. basically proton dont sell enough cars.
fact-Buatan M&#039;sia, does anyone know, samsung produce a re-badge sentra? korean still do re-badge car, similar to Myvi. so there is nothing to shout about Myvi. even the redesign kancil is a more of a significant m&#039;sian product.

fact-proton lack of persona marketing. proton product line just lack of appeal, except Gen-2, but they marketed it as a classy, family based hatch and down play all the sex-appeal and sportiness. then they tried too hard with the fun factor with Savvy, which make it look ridiculous to be driven by a young exec or not know small car appeals to ladies market, and do you think you want a car that dont have a color to match their lip-color.

fact-proton dont learn or refuse to learn, or maybe to learning is beyond them. marketing 101, greatest sale force is driven by the consumer, not any ad campaign. except you are 111 years old Benz, then you can be snobbish and adopt Emperor marketing technique. otherwise, product loyalty is vital to ensure returning customers. means you get old customers + new customers = more car sales.

fact-jaguh kampung. korean car industry success is generated by the acceptance the biggest automobile consumer market in the world, US. proton keep saying how we have done well in Australia, one simple 3 year old question, how many cars does the Aussie drives? 

fact-PERT is still driving a Mitsubishi Evo, i rest my case.

fact-consumer are getting wiser everyday. there is a evil force which caused proton 60%(then) to 40%(now) market share, the Internet. you cant control, stop or curb bad news these day, coupled with a not so effective PR department = ingridients for disaster. how can you say we are selling cars in UK when Autocar, one of the most established car mag in the world reviewed proton cars to be stayed away. worst still you are trying to sell an englishman a 20 yr old car-WIRA/PERSONA. duh! they make bently and rolls, you think they dont realize when you dont have a passenger air-bag written on the dash?

Proton... its like feels a little like your 1st love, it will never feel the same.

the fact there is more Avanza than Savvy on the road. proton it will take more gimmick than R3, your beloved special additions, TUV etc. to get back your fans base. after all. we are all malaysian, who is usually a romantic sentimental fool. my best wishes for SRM24 launch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton&#8230; its like feels a little like your 1st love, too good to be true.</p>
<p>after owning 2 alfa romeos &#8211; alfettas, the price prove too much of a deciding factor to drop the romancing with alfa and optd for a mega-valve saga back in the late 90&#8217;s. my experience with the saga? lots of mid-nite drives on the ipoh roads and an accident which cost my dad 2k in repairs. But i have to say the relationship wasnt too bad, considering it was my 1st love with a proton. my dad kept the car for a while till my mum couldnt resist the cute little suzuki swift. i was a little sad considering my parents choose to keep the suzuki mini-van (those which look like a loaf of bread) and sell the proton. didnt understand back then but later i begin to realize that if the decision was on me, i would have done the same.</p>
<p>Proton&#8230; its like feels a little like your 1st love, it seem better kept as memories.</p>
<p>fast forward to present time, i was in a fix for 12 months deciding which proton to bet my money on after driving the Corolla XL &#8211; the sedan version of AE86 around for 5 years, if its not petrol price and the spares is getting harder to locate, i would have kept it longer. during CNY, i gave it a new paint job, recarpeted some interior parts and voila! a car good enough to stay committed to her and stay away from proton show room. well, it lasted another 6 months.</p>
<p>eventually i gave in, due to long distant travel along the coastline, the Corolla prove it can only serve me thus far. Bare in mind a 20-odd years car, driving from Alor Setar to Mersing in 10 hours and no break-down in all those years. by the time Myvi came around, the temptation proves to hard to resist. still, being a malaysia and a kid who use to dream driving a Satria GTI, i gave my benefit of the doubt for proton. numerous showroom visit, countless online research, and even a test drive on my friend Gen-2, one incident made the decision easy for me. i was walking into the proton showroom in Cyberjaya, within the Limkokwing University premise, i pass my ic, my driving licence, the saleman walkaway to make copies, i turn around and admire my future love, a black Gen-2. Sexiness just oozing from those curvy bodylines, that high and arching rear, whoosa! then i did something and spoil it all, i wanted to take a seat in the cabin. 1 pull, perhaps i skipped lunch, 2nd pull, maybe the door was lock, 3rd pull, &#8220;i want my IC back!!!&#8221;. in the end i have to put my hand againts the rear door panel, took a firm stance and lunged my body backward for one last pull.  i almost fell to the floor (well, you know how new proton showrooms are, white slippery tiles). i didnt proceed to seat in the car, 10 sec later i told the baffled saleman, i decided not to place my bookings.  2 months later&#8230;. im driving a gold colored Toyota Avanza, Auto 1.3.</p>
<p>Proton&#8230; its like feels a little like your 1st love, it never meant to last a lifetime.</p>
<p>lets all recall the last time we went shopping in a mall, doesnt retailers put thier best and newest product in front, where its most visible? doesnt retailers make sure thier window displays is the best to attract the customers? have you guys log-on to proton website, they even have a corporate video to explain thier interior design brief and concept. after 20 years, they still cant put a better car in a show room. by the way the Gen-2 i mentioned, was actually sold and waiting for delivery. all the best to the owners.</p>
<p>i have to agree to all posted comments, simply because everyone would have their own unique feel and experience with their beloved or disgusted protons. just like 1st love, some are with sweet and some are with bitter ending. some might want to go through it all over again, while others will be happily settled with their wife. but one glaring fact, 8 out of 10 relationship with proton seems to be an ex you dont want to meet again, thats depressing. </p>
<p>fact-it only took proton 20 years to have their own R&amp;D center, auto city, university(soon). it took the korean longer to make anything you can associate with the word beautiful, let alone sexy (that doesnt include the latest Sonata, beware Hondas) </p>
<p>fact-korean and japan, even China have much more economical scale to allow a totally new platform design for a new model every 10 year cycle. basically proton dont sell enough cars.<br />
fact-Buatan M&#8217;sia, does anyone know, samsung produce a re-badge sentra? korean still do re-badge car, similar to Myvi. so there is nothing to shout about Myvi. even the redesign kancil is a more of a significant m&#8217;sian product.</p>
<p>fact-proton lack of persona marketing. proton product line just lack of appeal, except Gen-2, but they marketed it as a classy, family based hatch and down play all the sex-appeal and sportiness. then they tried too hard with the fun factor with Savvy, which make it look ridiculous to be driven by a young exec or not know small car appeals to ladies market, and do you think you want a car that dont have a color to match their lip-color.</p>
<p>fact-proton dont learn or refuse to learn, or maybe to learning is beyond them. marketing 101, greatest sale force is driven by the consumer, not any ad campaign. except you are 111 years old Benz, then you can be snobbish and adopt Emperor marketing technique. otherwise, product loyalty is vital to ensure returning customers. means you get old customers + new customers = more car sales.</p>
<p>fact-jaguh kampung. korean car industry success is generated by the acceptance the biggest automobile consumer market in the world, US. proton keep saying how we have done well in Australia, one simple 3 year old question, how many cars does the Aussie drives? </p>
<p>fact-PERT is still driving a Mitsubishi Evo, i rest my case.</p>
<p>fact-consumer are getting wiser everyday. there is a evil force which caused proton 60%(then) to 40%(now) market share, the Internet. you cant control, stop or curb bad news these day, coupled with a not so effective PR department = ingridients for disaster. how can you say we are selling cars in UK when Autocar, one of the most established car mag in the world reviewed proton cars to be stayed away. worst still you are trying to sell an englishman a 20 yr old car-WIRA/PERSONA. duh! they make bently and rolls, you think they dont realize when you dont have a passenger air-bag written on the dash?</p>
<p>Proton&#8230; its like feels a little like your 1st love, it will never feel the same.</p>
<p>the fact there is more Avanza than Savvy on the road. proton it will take more gimmick than R3, your beloved special additions, TUV etc. to get back your fans base. after all. we are all malaysian, who is usually a romantic sentimental fool. my best wishes for SRM24 launch.</p>
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