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	<title>Comments on: Camless Solenoid Valve Engines</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: kaliman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-253656</link>
		<dc:creator>kaliman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main problem is that progressive and gradual oppening of the valve is important for internal combustion engine&#039;s equilibrium. That&#039;s why the shaping of the lobes are so critical in a camshaft design.

A supercharger, however, could make easier for the engine to achieve optim equilibrium, since engine engine breathing is presurized and in those conditions progressiveness in valve oppening is less critical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main problem is that progressive and gradual oppening of the valve is important for internal combustion engine&#8217;s equilibrium. That&#8217;s why the shaping of the lobes are so critical in a camshaft design.</p>
<p>A supercharger, however, could make easier for the engine to achieve optim equilibrium, since engine engine breathing is presurized and in those conditions progressiveness in valve oppening is less critical.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-222924</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you have sufficient cooling then the engine should not reach 1600 degrees celsius there not loosing magnetisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you have sufficient cooling then the engine should not reach 1600 degrees celsius there not loosing magnetisation.</p>
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		<title>By: esar</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-222841</link>
		<dc:creator>esar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i m working as a project on camless engine by d using of solenoid valve bt dere r some pbm in case of solenoid vave it get demagnetized above 1600 degree  Celsius.........so how can i remove this pbm plz suggest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i m working as a project on camless engine by d using of solenoid valve bt dere r some pbm in case of solenoid vave it get demagnetized above 1600 degree  Celsius&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;so how can i remove this pbm plz suggest</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-221144</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you might find that this system will eventually weigh more as the solenoid or electromagnet(s) will end up compensating for the lose of the camshaft and belt I am doing a university project on this using electromagnets but trying to get away from springs as control methods for cam shape looking gd anybody think they have some decent reservh material on this? that would be great thanks all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you might find that this system will eventually weigh more as the solenoid or electromagnet(s) will end up compensating for the lose of the camshaft and belt I am doing a university project on this using electromagnets but trying to get away from springs as control methods for cam shape looking gd anybody think they have some decent reservh material on this? that would be great thanks all.</p>
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		<title>By: proton12vauto</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-58307</link>
		<dc:creator>proton12vauto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think last time MAzda has come out with camless engine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think last time MAzda has come out with camless engine?</p>
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		<title>By: Valeo has customers for half camles</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-58118</link>
		<dc:creator>Valeo has customers for half camles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mercedes Benz already has it&#8217;s own camless engine project called KDI EVT, with the resulting cam-less valvetrain engine expected to be supercharged with direct injection. BMW is also researching the technology, but is concerned with cost and durability, says BMW general manager for calibration V8 engines Christian Bock. Bock says the technical barrier to camless engines are not the valve actuators themselves but rather the sensors to make it all work with precision. Currently sensors are no accurate enough and have engine-life durability and reliability issues. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mercedes Benz already has it&#8217;s own camless engine project called KDI EVT, with the resulting cam-less valvetrain engine expected to be supercharged with direct injection. BMW is also researching the technology, but is concerned with cost and durability, says BMW general manager for calibration V8 engines Christian Bock. Bock says the technical barrier to camless engines are not the valve actuators themselves but rather the sensors to make it all work with precision. Currently sensors are no accurate enough and have engine-life durability and reliability issues. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-28003</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ducati has developed their mechanical valvetrain system which eliminates valve springs... well, sort of. There is a spring, but not around the valve stem. It does have its possible serious side effects, as explained here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmodromic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ducati has developed their mechanical valvetrain system which eliminates valve springs&#8230; well, sort of. There is a spring, but not around the valve stem. It does have its possible serious side effects, as explained here:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmodromic" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmodromic</a></p>
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		<title>By: 2008 Mercedes Benz C-Class &#187;</title>
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		<dc:creator>2008 Mercedes Benz C-Class &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There are also news that the new C-class will come with Mercedes Benz&#8217;s first batch of KDI EVT engines. The supercharged KDI EVT is Mercedes Benz&#8217;s first camless valvetrain engine, which means the valves are electronically controlled instead of using a camshaft, rocker arms and etc. More details on camless valvetrain engines here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There are also news that the new C-class will come with Mercedes Benz&#8217;s first batch of KDI EVT engines. The supercharged KDI EVT is Mercedes Benz&#8217;s first camless valvetrain engine, which means the valves are electronically controlled instead of using a camshaft, rocker arms and etc. More details on camless valvetrain engines here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-25071</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Camless valve technology will reinvent the wheel. Besides the obvious gains of weight reduction and internal engine friction, it will give a whole new meaning to &quot;sleeper&quot;. You can have an engine that will idle as smooth as an exotic V-12 but at high rpm, you can have the broad cam profile of an NHRA Top-Fuel dragster. So at the light it&#039;s acting like grandma&#039;s Buick Century, but when you hit the loud pedal, large plumes of smoke emit from the tires, and before you turn your head around to see the other drive wayyyyyyyy behind you, you&#039;ll already need to be grabbing second gear. And, we can program the software to automaticaly give maximum valve lift and duration at WOT, so banging into second gear will give more than a chirp from the hides. Starting will be so much easier, engine life will be significantly longer and it will rev a lot smoother and a lot quicker. Not to mention the consumption loss. Coming from someone who recently was driving across a dark interstate in Ohio (USA), and the timing chain just....broke. Yeah, camless valve technology IS the wave of the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camless valve technology will reinvent the wheel. Besides the obvious gains of weight reduction and internal engine friction, it will give a whole new meaning to &#8220;sleeper&#8221;. You can have an engine that will idle as smooth as an exotic V-12 but at high rpm, you can have the broad cam profile of an NHRA Top-Fuel dragster. So at the light it&#8217;s acting like grandma&#8217;s Buick Century, but when you hit the loud pedal, large plumes of smoke emit from the tires, and before you turn your head around to see the other drive wayyyyyyyy behind you, you&#8217;ll already need to be grabbing second gear. And, we can program the software to automaticaly give maximum valve lift and duration at WOT, so banging into second gear will give more than a chirp from the hides. Starting will be so much easier, engine life will be significantly longer and it will rev a lot smoother and a lot quicker. Not to mention the consumption loss. Coming from someone who recently was driving across a dark interstate in Ohio (USA), and the timing chain just&#8230;.broke. Yeah, camless valve technology IS the wave of the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Adan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-7731</link>
		<dc:creator>Adan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 03:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jawa,

Speaking of flying car, there is one company who had designed and built an example of such machine named The Skycar. Very interesting, and you can refer to www.moller.com to see how it looks like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jawa,</p>
<p>Speaking of flying car, there is one company who had designed and built an example of such machine named The Skycar. Very interesting, and you can refer to <a href="http://www.moller.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.moller.com</a> to see how it looks like.</p>
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		<title>By: JAWA</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-7709</link>
		<dc:creator>JAWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fuiyyo... more and more high tech, wonder when we all can afford a flying car... just like the Delorean in the back to the future...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fuiyyo&#8230; more and more high tech, wonder when we all can afford a flying car&#8230; just like the Delorean in the back to the future&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zongtwi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-7707</link>
		<dc:creator>zongtwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Lotus has been developing the AVT (Active Valve Train) since before Proton took over. And currently the AVT is already available. If I&#039;m not mistaken, the main purpose of having a completely &#039;active&#039; valve train is not for performance purposes, but for environmental purposes. AVT is seen as the answer to CAI technology (Control Auto Ignition) to increase fuel economy and reduce emissions. In lament terms, this means that the fuel and air mixture is combusted without the use of a spark, thus combustion is more controlled, and peak temperature is low so it reduces NOx emissions. Pre-AVT, the problem with CAI was that it only can be used in a really narrow band of rpms, and also it needs a substancial amount of exhaust gas recirculated back into the cylinders (EGR). So what was needed to apply CAI technology is a method to &#039;convert&#039; a normal engine with spark ignition to an engine that supports CAI and back again, depending on the requirements of the user and also the engine running conditions, via actively changing the valve timings. AVT is the answer to this problem, and I&#039;m pretty sure, extensive research is currently being done on this subject. Don&#039;t get me wrong, performance wise, having a camless v/t is deffinitely desireable. But this is already achievable with cam phasing and vvt. As far as Proton are concerned, I expect a cam profile switching version of the Campro to be out sooner rather than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Lotus has been developing the AVT (Active Valve Train) since before Proton took over. And currently the AVT is already available. If I&#8217;m not mistaken, the main purpose of having a completely &#8216;active&#8217; valve train is not for performance purposes, but for environmental purposes. AVT is seen as the answer to CAI technology (Control Auto Ignition) to increase fuel economy and reduce emissions. In lament terms, this means that the fuel and air mixture is combusted without the use of a spark, thus combustion is more controlled, and peak temperature is low so it reduces NOx emissions. Pre-AVT, the problem with CAI was that it only can be used in a really narrow band of rpms, and also it needs a substancial amount of exhaust gas recirculated back into the cylinders (EGR). So what was needed to apply CAI technology is a method to &#8216;convert&#8217; a normal engine with spark ignition to an engine that supports CAI and back again, depending on the requirements of the user and also the engine running conditions, via actively changing the valve timings. AVT is the answer to this problem, and I&#8217;m pretty sure, extensive research is currently being done on this subject. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, performance wise, having a camless v/t is deffinitely desireable. But this is already achievable with cam phasing and vvt. As far as Proton are concerned, I expect a cam profile switching version of the Campro to be out sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: deutsche volk</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-7704</link>
		<dc:creator>deutsche volk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem is...it does not work-or have a bit prob.- on high rev...seriously...livin out the mechanic part have a lot to consider....eventhou its lighter,more efficient,without belt whatsoever...the elect part will have to tolerate with the temperatur...if its gettin hot...then some laggin will accur..thats actually the problem with bmw f1 car last seasson..the try to put camless and substitude it with hydraulik valve...and walla...problem when at high revs,..pressure from kompressure hydraulik drop, which then laggin the valve opening..i remember my old prof said b4:...in mechanical/automotiv tech..lotsa things being brought in and most of them involve electronik...but actually the forget 1 thing,....the thing that bring us from point A to point B is not the electronik parts, but actually the mechanical part....!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem is&#8230;it does not work-or have a bit prob.- on high rev&#8230;seriously&#8230;livin out the mechanic part have a lot to consider&#8230;.eventhou its lighter,more efficient,without belt whatsoever&#8230;the elect part will have to tolerate with the temperatur&#8230;if its gettin hot&#8230;then some laggin will accur..thats actually the problem with bmw f1 car last seasson..the try to put camless and substitude it with hydraulik valve&#8230;and walla&#8230;problem when at high revs,..pressure from kompressure hydraulik drop, which then laggin the valve opening..i remember my old prof said b4:&#8230;in mechanical/automotiv tech..lotsa things being brought in and most of them involve electronik&#8230;but actually the forget 1 thing,&#8230;.the thing that bring us from point A to point B is not the electronik parts, but actually the mechanical part&#8230;.!</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-7681</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hoish.. more new technology.. and i still dun understand how the i-vtec operates.. supposedly to be a combination of camshaft and valve manipulation so that the engine can give what a vtec engine can give? higher output at lower rpms? izzat rite? heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hoish.. more new technology.. and i still dun understand how the i-vtec operates.. supposedly to be a combination of camshaft and valve manipulation so that the engine can give what a vtec engine can give? higher output at lower rpms? izzat rite? heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/14/camless-solenoid-valve-engines/#comment-7638</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s amusing. While parent company Proton has yet to come up with a variable valve timing solution for it&#039;s Campro engine, subsidiary Lotus already has cam-less engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s amusing. While parent company Proton has yet to come up with a variable valve timing solution for it&#8217;s Campro engine, subsidiary Lotus already has cam-less engines.</p>
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		<title>By: bumboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bumboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lotus been developing this since 2003. Dunno why they are slow to release it.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.all4engineers.com/index.php;do=show/lng=en/alloc=34/id=246/sid=19&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Lotus AVT camless&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lotus been developing this since 2003. Dunno why they are slow to release it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.all4engineers.com/index.php;do=show/lng=en/alloc=34/id=246/sid=19" rel="nofollow"> Lotus AVT camless</a></p>
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