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	<title>Comments on: Proton Vendors Want Protection!</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: fiveruz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-55366</link>
		<dc:creator>fiveruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>next year VW will takeover proton,
we&#039;ll see is it gonna improve or else.
proton try to produce quality car but 
each of their product must be approved 
high rank people (politician). 
what VW will do is there will ensure proton 
to reduce employess and numbers of vendor.
It is not a big mistake....our country to produce own car.
it&#039;s like when VW beatle were produced....(kereta untuk rakyat).
Our DR M want this concept on Proton.
Rather condemming it is better discuss how to improve our national car. 
have any of u guys wonder how Toyota survive untill now..... ?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>next year VW will takeover proton,<br />
we&#8217;ll see is it gonna improve or else.<br />
proton try to produce quality car but<br />
each of their product must be approved<br />
high rank people (politician).<br />
what VW will do is there will ensure proton<br />
to reduce employess and numbers of vendor.<br />
It is not a big mistake&#8230;.our country to produce own car.<br />
it&#8217;s like when VW beatle were produced&#8230;.(kereta untuk rakyat).<br />
Our DR M want this concept on Proton.<br />
Rather condemming it is better discuss how to improve our national car.<br />
have any of u guys wonder how Toyota survive untill now&#8230;.. ?????</p>
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		<title>By: haroldz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-54578</link>
		<dc:creator>haroldz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 07:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pak Lah is not a big supporter of Proton.
he help to launch several made in malaysia cars (not proton) already.
These statements/demands made by Proton Vendor showed that they want to monopolize the market.
However AFTA will still be implemented n Proton will has less protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pak Lah is not a big supporter of Proton.<br />
he help to launch several made in malaysia cars (not proton) already.<br />
These statements/demands made by Proton Vendor showed that they want to monopolize the market.<br />
However AFTA will still be implemented n Proton will has less protection.</p>
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		<title>By: epalhead</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-16294</link>
		<dc:creator>epalhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>big_mistake: dude...i agree wit u dude,....
guys...imagine malaysia without proton......
huh.....maybe i can drive my own Jazz......(sighs)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>big_mistake: dude&#8230;i agree wit u dude,&#8230;.<br />
guys&#8230;imagine malaysia without proton&#8230;&#8230;<br />
huh&#8230;..maybe i can drive my own Jazz&#8230;&#8230;(sighs)</p>
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		<title>By: BIG_Mistake</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-9324</link>
		<dc:creator>BIG_Mistake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was a big mistake to make our own car in Malaysia.
Who decide to make national car last time?

BECAUSE of the stupid idea,  we are now very hard to own a really good quality car from the REAL car maker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was a big mistake to make our own car in Malaysia.<br />
Who decide to make national car last time?</p>
<p>BECAUSE of the stupid idea,  we are now very hard to own a really good quality car from the REAL car maker!</p>
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		<title>By: sigh...</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-9288</link>
		<dc:creator>sigh...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utterly disappointed, govt advise us to be a smart consumer and boycott bad vendors due to petrol price hikes recently.. I wonder if they are also hinting us on Proton cars too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utterly disappointed, govt advise us to be a smart consumer and boycott bad vendors due to petrol price hikes recently.. I wonder if they are also hinting us on Proton cars too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sekot</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8333</link>
		<dc:creator>sekot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AlexC, 
I&#039;m no economic guru either, but perhaps you could see the point that i try to bring-up here. When you buy a car, let just say 40% goes to the govt, 10% goes to the dealer/franchaise holder and the rest 50% goes straight to the car manufacturer, which might be in Korea/Japan/States. Don&#039;t you think this doesn give any impact to our economy? When you buy a local product (provided it has a really high local content ) you started to spread the money to all the people in the chain (the rubber tapper-middleman -felda/felcra/rubber board-the company/dunlop/sime/conti - proton/perodua/toyota/honda/nissan ). So almost everyone in the whole chain is getting the bussines.  I&#039;m not trying to be too patriotic but I really agree with your point that we as the consumer need a high quality and safe car, not just another 6 face metal box that can move you from point A to B. In deed, the G should regulate the market to follow certain Intl std so every one in the industry (esp P1 &amp; P2) forced to provide us with cars that on par with the ones that is seling at EU countries or Japs and Aussie. Even GCC got their own std! We, the Asian pariah at SEA are the world dumping ground for auto product. Look at your old Innova. New car with chassis. 3rd world car at premium price? Don&#039;t ask me about Proton or Perodua. They are even worse.  Nissan Vannate. Oh, Don&#039;t you pity yourself? Regulate and promote the industry, thats the way to go .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AlexC,<br />
I&#8217;m no economic guru either, but perhaps you could see the point that i try to bring-up here. When you buy a car, let just say 40% goes to the govt, 10% goes to the dealer/franchaise holder and the rest 50% goes straight to the car manufacturer, which might be in Korea/Japan/States. Don&#8217;t you think this doesn give any impact to our economy? When you buy a local product (provided it has a really high local content ) you started to spread the money to all the people in the chain (the rubber tapper-middleman -felda/felcra/rubber board-the company/dunlop/sime/conti &#8211; proton/perodua/toyota/honda/nissan ). So almost everyone in the whole chain is getting the bussines.  I&#8217;m not trying to be too patriotic but I really agree with your point that we as the consumer need a high quality and safe car, not just another 6 face metal box that can move you from point A to B. In deed, the G should regulate the market to follow certain Intl std so every one in the industry (esp P1 &amp; P2) forced to provide us with cars that on par with the ones that is seling at EU countries or Japs and Aussie. Even GCC got their own std! We, the Asian pariah at SEA are the world dumping ground for auto product. Look at your old Innova. New car with chassis. 3rd world car at premium price? Don&#8217;t ask me about Proton or Perodua. They are even worse.  Nissan Vannate. Oh, Don&#8217;t you pity yourself? Regulate and promote the industry, thats the way to go .</p>
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		<title>By: khoo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8321</link>
		<dc:creator>khoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like racketeering.

I thin there&#039;s a law against racketeering somewhere in the books...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like racketeering.</p>
<p>I thin there&#8217;s a law against racketeering somewhere in the books&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AutumnAshes</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8317</link>
		<dc:creator>AutumnAshes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hai......with this kind of attitude, no wonder our country dont advance. is bullshit man, after all this years of producing lousy car, and they dare to have the balls to come out with this National Automotive Policy? wtf?1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hai&#8230;&#8230;with this kind of attitude, no wonder our country dont advance. is bullshit man, after all this years of producing lousy car, and they dare to have the balls to come out with this National Automotive Policy? wtf?1</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8289</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KiLLersHik: you should remember that this is not Proton&#039;s request but Proton Vendors Association&#039;s request. it&#039;s the bunch of monkeys who manufacture the low quality rubbish that Proton has to fix into their cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KiLLersHik: you should remember that this is not Proton&#8217;s request but Proton Vendors Association&#8217;s request. it&#8217;s the bunch of monkeys who manufacture the low quality rubbish that Proton has to fix into their cars.</p>
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		<title>By: KiLLersHik</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8288</link>
		<dc:creator>KiLLersHik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do these ppl stil think they own the world huh !? yeah, ill show them wht when i cast my ballot tis year. yeah, ull own a mf instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do these ppl stil think they own the world huh !? yeah, ill show them wht when i cast my ballot tis year. yeah, ull own a mf instead.</p>
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		<title>By: KiLLersHik</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8287</link>
		<dc:creator>KiLLersHik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i used to think proton deserved another chance but seemingly, as if it wants the rakyat to suffer more than its proton has already done previously. 

now, wit these ridiculous proposals. i hv no qualm tht proton shld go down, whether or not a country brainchild or wht. its totally ignorant of the rakyats pains and suffering all these years. 

at least, microsoft is elevating lifestyle and delivering good qlty prdt [subject to individual opinion] to its customer while proton? excuseme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i used to think proton deserved another chance but seemingly, as if it wants the rakyat to suffer more than its proton has already done previously. </p>
<p>now, wit these ridiculous proposals. i hv no qualm tht proton shld go down, whether or not a country brainchild or wht. its totally ignorant of the rakyats pains and suffering all these years. </p>
<p>at least, microsoft is elevating lifestyle and delivering good qlty prdt [subject to individual opinion] to its customer while proton? excuseme.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexC</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8280</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 08:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sekot,

I&#039;m no economic student but do you really think by buying all imported cars can devalue our ringgit??? proper scale of economies from the government should balance the import/export of our country... Do you understand the point being said here? its about AP protection for proton... there wouldnt be any fuss from everyone today if the quality of national cars are up to par... under declaration is the work of the forking people who already benefit from getting the AP from government and wanted to make more bucks, thats all... in the spirit of afta, this damn import tax for ckd or cbu shouldnt even be exercised now, but still extended till sept 2005 just to protect proton... how many death accidents involving local cars for disregarding safety issues??? dont tell me about cars proportion, even if you scale it accordingly proton MUST improve their quality, thats the whole point... i wouldnt care if its local or imported if there is the least of quality in it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sekot,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no economic student but do you really think by buying all imported cars can devalue our ringgit??? proper scale of economies from the government should balance the import/export of our country&#8230; Do you understand the point being said here? its about AP protection for proton&#8230; there wouldnt be any fuss from everyone today if the quality of national cars are up to par&#8230; under declaration is the work of the forking people who already benefit from getting the AP from government and wanted to make more bucks, thats all&#8230; in the spirit of afta, this damn import tax for ckd or cbu shouldnt even be exercised now, but still extended till sept 2005 just to protect proton&#8230; how many death accidents involving local cars for disregarding safety issues??? dont tell me about cars proportion, even if you scale it accordingly proton MUST improve their quality, thats the whole point&#8230; i wouldnt care if its local or imported if there is the least of quality in it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fredo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8273</link>
		<dc:creator>Fredo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 03:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just makes you wonder if he got his Phd based on merit or bought it. Monkeys they are!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just makes you wonder if he got his Phd based on merit or bought it. Monkeys they are!!</p>
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		<title>By: cbljkkj</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8263</link>
		<dc:creator>cbljkkj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is seriously bollocks, with the recent unpegging of the US dollar. I was right about foreign car prices dropping (when cow, pigs and men fly) I guess this is Malaysia&#039;s remedy to protect &quot;Potong&quot; from extinction.

Its bad enough that everybody here has to resort to buying a Proton, they are so greedy that they go to the extent of banning foreign companies from selling goods Malaysian citizens want. This is ludacris and unacceptable. Still being spoonfed Proton?? Time to stick it up the other hole</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is seriously bollocks, with the recent unpegging of the US dollar. I was right about foreign car prices dropping (when cow, pigs and men fly) I guess this is Malaysia&#8217;s remedy to protect &#8220;Potong&#8221; from extinction.</p>
<p>Its bad enough that everybody here has to resort to buying a Proton, they are so greedy that they go to the extent of banning foreign companies from selling goods Malaysian citizens want. This is ludacris and unacceptable. Still being spoonfed Proton?? Time to stick it up the other hole</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8255</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PROTECTION from MARTIANS??!?!?!? Hey, PVA, grow up, you are already 20 years old. This industry is already 20 years old...why why why can&#039;t you learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PROTECTION from MARTIANS??!?!?!? Hey, PVA, grow up, you are already 20 years old. This industry is already 20 years old&#8230;why why why can&#8217;t you learn.</p>
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		<title>By: pomen_kete</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8254</link>
		<dc:creator>pomen_kete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wa sea hokkien lang .. 
no.. it&#039;s not both side SIKAP.. 

it&#039;s the hell small but cheap Kancil car. That everyone car they said.. Fuckoff perodua.. 

i&#039;ve PINJAM my friend kancil car.. 
the fac is.. it;s not a car anyway.. 
it&#039;s a car body with a motorcycle engine.. yeah!.. 

i near by death at twice by this carwithmotorcycleengine.. 
not very fast for me at 80 - 100KMH (althought can reach by 130KMH) .. 
it&#039;s about 3 in the car.. just to potong the lorri 12 tyre or some thing.. in the straight road.. but sadly.. change to gear 3 ! but still not have picukp to potong the lorri!.. in the 30 scnd  i still cannot past the lorry that i think about 80kmh.. then coming a car from other side.. but luckily i not a kind of panic person.. i can passed it with a little gap between kancil and lorry bumper.. 

DAMN!.. stupid kancil car.. !

The another thing is.. 
the small tyre of the car.. 
cannot break emergencylah!. Fuck Off.. like jumping2 in behind. Not enough to GRIP the road.. and maybe more bad on the rainy day.. So = should be drive delow 20kmh in the raini day? 40kmh in the wet road?.. 

IT&#039;s the car fact. 

Kelisa is better.. enough power</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wa sea hokkien lang ..<br />
no.. it&#8217;s not both side SIKAP.. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s the hell small but cheap Kancil car. That everyone car they said.. Fuckoff perodua.. </p>
<p>i&#8217;ve PINJAM my friend kancil car..<br />
the fac is.. it;s not a car anyway..<br />
it&#8217;s a car body with a motorcycle engine.. yeah!.. </p>
<p>i near by death at twice by this carwithmotorcycleengine..<br />
not very fast for me at 80 &#8211; 100KMH (althought can reach by 130KMH) ..<br />
it&#8217;s about 3 in the car.. just to potong the lorri 12 tyre or some thing.. in the straight road.. but sadly.. change to gear 3 ! but still not have picukp to potong the lorri!.. in the 30 scnd  i still cannot past the lorry that i think about 80kmh.. then coming a car from other side.. but luckily i not a kind of panic person.. i can passed it with a little gap between kancil and lorry bumper.. </p>
<p>DAMN!.. stupid kancil car.. !</p>
<p>The another thing is..<br />
the small tyre of the car..<br />
cannot break emergencylah!. Fuck Off.. like jumping2 in behind. Not enough to GRIP the road.. and maybe more bad on the rainy day.. So = should be drive delow 20kmh in the raini day? 40kmh in the wet road?.. </p>
<p>IT&#8217;s the car fact. </p>
<p>Kelisa is better.. enough power</p>
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		<title>By: December</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8253</link>
		<dc:creator>December</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wa sea hokkien lang, type in decent english man, we cant understand nuts :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wa sea hokkien lang, type in decent english man, we cant understand nuts <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: December</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8252</link>
		<dc:creator>December</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its like killing all the foreign monkeys in the zoo, coz we have out very own, fugly, lazy, but ugly orang utans


jesus, these people are blunt..

*slaps forehead*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its like killing all the foreign monkeys in the zoo, coz we have out very own, fugly, lazy, but ugly orang utans</p>
<p>jesus, these people are blunt..</p>
<p>*slaps forehead*</p>
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		<title>By: Fab_Integra</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8244</link>
		<dc:creator>Fab_Integra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just use bus or taxi lah. Help support the bus &amp; taxi driver&#039;s income guys! That&#039;s another good way to boycott the local car vendors. Help the poor rakyat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just use bus or taxi lah. Help support the bus &amp; taxi driver&#8217;s income guys! That&#8217;s another good way to boycott the local car vendors. Help the poor rakyat.</p>
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		<title>By: Fab_Integra</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8243</link>
		<dc:creator>Fab_Integra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wooo....someone is getting pissed to the point of typing other user&#039;s names here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wooo&#8230;.someone is getting pissed to the point of typing other user&#8217;s names here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wa sea hokkien lang too</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8241</link>
		<dc:creator>wa sea hokkien lang too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rph you are right.... loan a car up to 9 years.... think wat happen when you oberhal the car.... other cuontry can finish their loan in 1 - 2 years .... MAY BE their interest are low and  if tghey wat longer ,interest are higher but WE AT HERE ARE TERBALIK.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rph you are right&#8230;. loan a car up to 9 years&#8230;. think wat happen when you oberhal the car&#8230;. other cuontry can finish their loan in 1 &#8211; 2 years &#8230;. MAY BE their interest are low and  if tghey wat longer ,interest are higher but WE AT HERE ARE TERBALIK&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rph</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8239</link>
		<dc:creator>rph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stupid person saying stupid things.  they seem like wana forcing our citizen to buy proton now. another stupid opinion - implement Vehicle End Of Life. how can we compare with other country? their citizen can easily finish loan a car within 2 or 3 years. in malaysia, some person need to loan until 9 years. on the day u finish loan, that is end of the day of the car oso. stupid idea. 
some time i think tat, certain group of people in malaysia are very &quot;kia su&quot; oso. so that they always come out with many funny idea to prove malaysia boleh. at last, only our poor citizen suffer from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stupid person saying stupid things.  they seem like wana forcing our citizen to buy proton now. another stupid opinion &#8211; implement Vehicle End Of Life. how can we compare with other country? their citizen can easily finish loan a car within 2 or 3 years. in malaysia, some person need to loan until 9 years. on the day u finish loan, that is end of the day of the car oso. stupid idea.<br />
some time i think tat, certain group of people in malaysia are very &#8220;kia su&#8221; oso. so that they always come out with many funny idea to prove malaysia boleh. at last, only our poor citizen suffer from it.</p>
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		<title>By: wa sea hokkien lang too</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8238</link>
		<dc:creator>wa sea hokkien lang too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jika ada orang masih baca komen ni wa nak komen beberapa orang ni
1.mitsu_galant_2000
2.Fabian
3.dan sebagainya
kemalangan kat jalanraya adalah sikap kedua--dua pihak you know i did&#039;nt drive acar but i know what there think when they drive....
for small car, middle car, luxury car ,sport car , some of them think i&#039;m a king of the road.... tekan pedal minyak sampai habis.... then tunjuk their skill was fearless, over take the vehicles when they saw a in coming vehicles,tak cukup lagi spring baik-baik potong spring lagi... taruk &#039;bolw up valve&#039; jalan 2 -3 km panjang terus tekan pedal habih tak cukup taruk torbo, lagi turbo timer, intercooler lagi. Bila tak sempat brek or brek tak makan bye-bye,mati katak,phin thua chuan khui, khee khua ghiam long ong,
for lorry(all kind of lorry include &#039;ghost lorry&#039;tthat take sand ilegally),busess,truck and all kind of big vehicles.. a lot of them think i&#039;m big WHO CARE.... if kena not my family....  . also when they are manuvering they all don&#039;t want to hit the brake when they see a class 1 car infronof them,the worst they can over take a bigger lorry ON THE ROAD.... look in all highway,accerate on high speed in fast lane... and more alot more.... i don&#039;t want to type any more you all think...... (sorry to all if i makes you mad)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jika ada orang masih baca komen ni wa nak komen beberapa orang ni<br />
1.mitsu_galant_2000<br />
2.Fabian<br />
3.dan sebagainya<br />
kemalangan kat jalanraya adalah sikap kedua&#8211;dua pihak you know i did&#8217;nt drive acar but i know what there think when they drive&#8230;.<br />
for small car, middle car, luxury car ,sport car , some of them think i&#8217;m a king of the road&#8230;. tekan pedal minyak sampai habis&#8230;. then tunjuk their skill was fearless, over take the vehicles when they saw a in coming vehicles,tak cukup lagi spring baik-baik potong spring lagi&#8230; taruk &#8216;bolw up valve&#8217; jalan 2 -3 km panjang terus tekan pedal habih tak cukup taruk torbo, lagi turbo timer, intercooler lagi. Bila tak sempat brek or brek tak makan bye-bye,mati katak,phin thua chuan khui, khee khua ghiam long ong,<br />
for lorry(all kind of lorry include &#8216;ghost lorry&#8217;tthat take sand ilegally),busess,truck and all kind of big vehicles.. a lot of them think i&#8217;m big WHO CARE&#8230;. if kena not my family&#8230;.  . also when they are manuvering they all don&#8217;t want to hit the brake when they see a class 1 car infronof them,the worst they can over take a bigger lorry ON THE ROAD&#8230;. look in all highway,accerate on high speed in fast lane&#8230; and more alot more&#8230;. i don&#8217;t want to type any more you all think&#8230;&#8230; (sorry to all if i makes you mad)</p>
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		<title>By: gegaoff</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8237</link>
		<dc:creator>gegaoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hei guys, tell u one thing, i been in a potong&#039;s car body parts manufacturer company before, u know how much a potong padana&#039;s bumper cost? RM20-RM50!!!!! guess how much damm they earn? go to HELL lah, protection... protect your own ass better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hei guys, tell u one thing, i been in a potong&#8217;s car body parts manufacturer company before, u know how much a potong padana&#8217;s bumper cost? RM20-RM50!!!!! guess how much damm they earn? go to HELL lah, protection&#8230; protect your own ass better.</p>
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		<title>By: gegaoff</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8236</link>
		<dc:creator>gegaoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the f*ck??! again asking for protection? ello!! look back your history books!! 20 YEARS spending on that &#039;masak&#039; car? what we get after all? car export to UK, now to western asia, that so call improve? now somemore those stupid dump dump Proton Vendors Association&#039;s ppls want more protection with those brainless ideals?? u go to eat SHIT lah.
we know the AP issues is the hot news now, but don&#039;t try to think we consumers are stupid to support your su*k ideals just becoz we sock with that AP cases. TOTALLY different!! oK?? go back and use your ass brain to think twice. else go to HELL!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the f*ck??! again asking for protection? ello!! look back your history books!! 20 YEARS spending on that &#8216;masak&#8217; car? what we get after all? car export to UK, now to western asia, that so call improve? now somemore those stupid dump dump Proton Vendors Association&#8217;s ppls want more protection with those brainless ideals?? u go to eat SHIT lah.<br />
we know the AP issues is the hot news now, but don&#8217;t try to think we consumers are stupid to support your su*k ideals just becoz we sock with that AP cases. TOTALLY different!! oK?? go back and use your ass brain to think twice. else go to HELL!!</p>
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		<title>By: woshye</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8233</link>
		<dc:creator>woshye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey does anybody know what this fool is making every month?

Or does anyone know if this fool is rejected for AP application? it seems likely that he has shares in plotong and he is trying to make sure that he can a yacht ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey does anybody know what this fool is making every month?</p>
<p>Or does anyone know if this fool is rejected for AP application? it seems likely that he has shares in plotong and he is trying to make sure that he can a yacht ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: sekot</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8232</link>
		<dc:creator>sekot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AlexC, 
What Tan Sri Asmat said was right. The problem is with under declaration. Do you really understand our tax structure? The real cost for Vios is 49K, after tax it become 85K, and the Gen2 is 38K &amp; after tax is 55K whereas for &quot;certain Korean cars&quot; the &quot;cost&quot; is 11K and after tax is 78K? Why? can you bulit cars with BOM cost of 11K? bullshitting arnt you? how much you pay for the tax? the normal rate is about 40% excise and 10 % import tax. Is this we call level playing field?  You want to tax, why dont you just tax everyone? Proton &amp; Perodua are National Car, currently they are manufacturing their car here &amp; they dont import much of the component, you might give certain tax break for the imported raw material than for providing the job here. Same can be applied to either toyota or honda or any other car company here, provided they manufactured here, not just a mere assembler. Use all those AICO, CEPT or whatever shite scheme than it should be OK. But  If you are importing CKD, assemble using Multi sourcing parts from other country, and selling at 0% tax, than fork off from our country, you are just making money even the govnt cant make money from you, we dont want our ringgit to devalue again you nuts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AlexC,<br />
What Tan Sri Asmat said was right. The problem is with under declaration. Do you really understand our tax structure? The real cost for Vios is 49K, after tax it become 85K, and the Gen2 is 38K &amp; after tax is 55K whereas for &#8220;certain Korean cars&#8221; the &#8220;cost&#8221; is 11K and after tax is 78K? Why? can you bulit cars with BOM cost of 11K? bullshitting arnt you? how much you pay for the tax? the normal rate is about 40% excise and 10 % import tax. Is this we call level playing field?  You want to tax, why dont you just tax everyone? Proton &amp; Perodua are National Car, currently they are manufacturing their car here &amp; they dont import much of the component, you might give certain tax break for the imported raw material than for providing the job here. Same can be applied to either toyota or honda or any other car company here, provided they manufactured here, not just a mere assembler. Use all those AICO, CEPT or whatever shite scheme than it should be OK. But  If you are importing CKD, assemble using Multi sourcing parts from other country, and selling at 0% tax, than fork off from our country, you are just making money even the govnt cant make money from you, we dont want our ringgit to devalue again you nuts!</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8214</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 06:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pakai mountain bike turun kerja lagik best...save the environment man. No traffic jam hassle. Can jaga badan some more. If got air pollution then buy one air respirator lah...;p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pakai mountain bike turun kerja lagik best&#8230;save the environment man. No traffic jam hassle. Can jaga badan some more. If got air pollution then buy one air respirator lah&#8230;;p</p>
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		<title>By: Mr_Mitsu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8213</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr_Mitsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 06:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sell your local made car to an import car dealer for a recond jap car.
I dont mind paying rm 1200 per mth for a mitsubishi chariot. Japan spec. Low interest some more. Better than paying rm1800 per mth for a perdana. Higher interest. And what for?  As long as u got the money to pay and u enjoy what r u paying for, guys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sell your local made car to an import car dealer for a recond jap car.<br />
I dont mind paying rm 1200 per mth for a mitsubishi chariot. Japan spec. Low interest some more. Better than paying rm1800 per mth for a perdana. Higher interest. And what for?  As long as u got the money to pay and u enjoy what r u paying for, guys</p>
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		<title>By: AlexC</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/21/proton-vendors-want-protection/#comment-8212</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read this guys, from The Stars...

UMW Holdings Bhd chairman Tan Sri Asmat Kamaludin, who is also chairman of Perodua, which is 38% owned by UMW Holdings, was commenting on APs and the under-declaration of imported cars. Asmat said if the Government did not have sufficient means &#039;to protect us (because of under-declaration), then we are not getting the protection that we deserve.â€

What the FUCK is the protection that they DESERVE??? We PAYING citizen have the RIGHTS to purchase what we want, and we WANT protection against proton and p2. Compete if you are capable, stand out if you&#039;re not. PUSSIES!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this guys, from The Stars&#8230;</p>
<p>UMW Holdings Bhd chairman Tan Sri Asmat Kamaludin, who is also chairman of Perodua, which is 38% owned by UMW Holdings, was commenting on APs and the under-declaration of imported cars. Asmat said if the Government did not have sufficient means &#8216;to protect us (because of under-declaration), then we are not getting the protection that we deserve.â€</p>
<p>What the FUCK is the protection that they DESERVE??? We PAYING citizen have the RIGHTS to purchase what we want, and we WANT protection against proton and p2. Compete if you are capable, stand out if you&#8217;re not. PUSSIES!!!</p>
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