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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: Honda Malaysia to focus on CKD units</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-50933</link>
		<dc:creator>Honda Malaysia to focus on CKD units</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From the period of January 2005 to August 2005, Honda Malaysia recorded sales of 16,124 CKD units and 3,061 CBU units. This is why Haniff is so rich. He holds the Honda CBU APs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From the period of January 2005 to August 2005, Honda Malaysia recorded sales of 16,124 CKD units and 3,061 CBU units. This is why Haniff is so rich. He holds the Honda CBU APs. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: As Suanie Sees It - where&#8217;s your blog at?</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-43397</link>
		<dc:creator>As Suanie Sees It - where&#8217;s your blog at?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To be honest, it really isn&#8217;t that difficult when there are so many delicious topics to choose from. One could even say that certain hot issues, usually involving MPs with perpetual foot-in-mouth disease seem to make it all too easy for us. It would take great discipline and/or RM50 million with a few APs thrown in to shut us whining lot up. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To be honest, it really isn&#8217;t that difficult when there are so many delicious topics to choose from. One could even say that certain hot issues, usually involving MPs with perpetual foot-in-mouth disease seem to make it all too easy for us. It would take great discipline and/or RM50 million with a few APs thrown in to shut us whining lot up. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cycle &#38; Carriage Bintang and Volkswagen in superdealer talks</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-43318</link>
		<dc:creator>Cycle &#38; Carriage Bintang and Volkswagen in superdealer talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I am disappointed at this as it is similiar to the shake leg AP middlemen situation which existed back before the new National Automotive Policy was formed. The fact that AutoStadt Asia Sdn Bhd&#8217;s owners are the same people who owned Emeritus Equities Sdn Bhd who lost their rice bowl when the government stopped giving them Kleemann APs gives you more reason to be suspicious. If you want to know who the owners are, click here. You will not be suprised. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I am disappointed at this as it is similiar to the shake leg AP middlemen situation which existed back before the new National Automotive Policy was formed. The fact that AutoStadt Asia Sdn Bhd&#8217;s owners are the same people who owned Emeritus Equities Sdn Bhd who lost their rice bowl when the government stopped giving them Kleemann APs gives you more reason to be suspicious. If you want to know who the owners are, click here. You will not be suprised. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shooter</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-37355</link>
		<dc:creator>shooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so much for being an islamic country, the manner in which these AP kings conduct business seems more jewish to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so much for being an islamic country, the manner in which these AP kings conduct business seems more jewish to me.</p>
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		<title>By: DRB-HICOM granted it&#8217;s own APs &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-37192</link>
		<dc:creator>DRB-HICOM granted it&#8217;s own APs &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The APs for DRB-HICOM&#8217;s cars are awarded to it&#8217;s wholly owned subsidiary DRB-Hicom Auto Solutions Sdn Bhd. The AP kings Syed Azman and Mohd Haniff will not be able to mint free money anymore. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The APs for DRB-HICOM&#8217;s cars are awarded to it&#8217;s wholly owned subsidiary DRB-Hicom Auto Solutions Sdn Bhd. The AP kings Syed Azman and Mohd Haniff will not be able to mint free money anymore. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New Malaysian National Automotive Policy &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-35701</link>
		<dc:creator>New Malaysian National Automotive Policy &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This means AP Kings Haniff and Syed Azman will lose their easy money making factory from importing Chevrolet (DRB-Hicom), Suzuki (DRB-Hicom) and Honda (36% owned by DRB-Hicom) marques. Suprise, suprise. The AP kings are not AP kings anymore. Click here to see what APs have given them. This should bump up the rakyat&#8217;s respect for Pak Lah a few notches. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This means AP Kings Haniff and Syed Azman will lose their easy money making factory from importing Chevrolet (DRB-Hicom), Suzuki (DRB-Hicom) and Honda (36% owned by DRB-Hicom) marques. Suprise, suprise. The AP kings are not AP kings anymore. Click here to see what APs have given them. This should bump up the rakyat&#8217;s respect for Pak Lah a few notches. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: habib</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-29514</link>
		<dc:creator>habib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can locals afford owning a car when half of Malaysia are still living in poverty!!

There is still significant poverty in Malaysia
In its article titled â€œThe Mahathir Mystiqueâ€, Newsweek, (23 November 2003) terms Malaysia as an Asian success story where â€œthe percentage of Malaysian households that fall below the poverty line has plunged from nearly 50 per cent to an estimated 6 per cent in 2000.â€ The figures quoted by Newsweek are lifted from Mahathirâ€™s 2004 budget speech in Parliament on 12 September 2003. From the horsesâ€™ mouth as they say â€” but unfortunately some horses have learnt to bluff! 

The poverty line 

Generally speaking, the poverty rate can be lowered by two methods. The first is by raising the income of the poorer families to above the poverty line. The second method, and undoubtedly the easier option, is to lower the poverty line itself! 

 Can a family of five survive on an income of RM550 per month, given the cost of living in Malaysia today? Where would they live? And can their children go to school?  
Malaysian household income distribution as quoted in the Eighth Malaysia Plan is pictured in Table 1 â€” with 75 per cent of Malaysian households earning below RM3,000 per month and 25 per cent of households earning below RM1,000 monthly. The same document (8MP) also specifies the poverty line for Semenanjung Malaysia as RM540 per month for a family of five individuals. Is this a realistic figure? 

A living wage? 


Table 1 - Household Income (RM/month)
More than RM5,000	9.8%
RM4,001 - RM5,000	5.5%
RM3,001 - RM4,000	9.6%
RM2,001 - RM3,000	17.4%
RM1,001 - RM2,000	 32.7%
RM501 - RM1,001	20.0%
Less than RM500	 5.0%
Source: Eighth Malaysia Plan.
Can a family of five survive on an income of RM550 per month, given the cost of living in Malaysia today? Where would they live? And can their children go to school? Yet given the governmentâ€™s definition, they would not be classified as being poor. 

At a meeting with 60 factory workers in Sg Siput recently, we asked them to suggest a reasonable household budget, and the outcome of that exercise is summarized in Table 2. The participants felt that the cost of buying a house and a small allocation for savings must be part of a balanced family budget. In their opinion, any family with a household budget of below RM1,750 would be facing economic hardship; 




A realistic poverty line 

Table 2 - Household Expenditure (per month)
House Loan	400
Marketing	 300
Groceries	300
School expenses	 200
Motorbike	 150
Medical/Clothes	100
Festivals/Trips	100
Light/Water/Phone	100
Insurance/savings	100
Total	RM1,750
In Britain and in several other countries in the European Union, the poverty line is defined as one half the average household income. In Malaysia, the average household income is RM3,200 per month. Half this figure would be RM1,600. In other words if we used the definition used in Britain, households earning less than RM1,600 per month would be considered as poor! If RM1,600 per month is taken as the realistic poverty line, then around 50 per cent of Malaysians are poor â€” see the Income Pyramid overleaf â€” and this is the level of poverty as quoted by Mahathir for 1970! 

No one is denying that there has been significant growth in the national economy. Per capita income (Per capita income = total income of the nation for that year divided by the population) has soared from RM1,132 in 1970 to RM13,683 presently! (Incidently, this would work out to an average household income of RM5,534 per month.) However as the income distribution pyramid depicts, the distribution of income in Malaysia is skewed towards the rich, and there is still significant poverty in Malaysia. 

Perhaps the most incredulous aspect of Malaysiaâ€™s poverty statistics is that it hasnâ€™t been challenged by the mainstream media nor by the academicians. Big Brotherâ€™s doublespeak (term used by Orwell in his book 1984) apparently rules supreme in Malaysia today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can locals afford owning a car when half of Malaysia are still living in poverty!!</p>
<p>There is still significant poverty in Malaysia<br />
In its article titled â€œThe Mahathir Mystiqueâ€, Newsweek, (23 November 2003) terms Malaysia as an Asian success story where â€œthe percentage of Malaysian households that fall below the poverty line has plunged from nearly 50 per cent to an estimated 6 per cent in 2000.â€ The figures quoted by Newsweek are lifted from Mahathirâ€™s 2004 budget speech in Parliament on 12 September 2003. From the horsesâ€™ mouth as they say â€” but unfortunately some horses have learnt to bluff! </p>
<p>The poverty line </p>
<p>Generally speaking, the poverty rate can be lowered by two methods. The first is by raising the income of the poorer families to above the poverty line. The second method, and undoubtedly the easier option, is to lower the poverty line itself! </p>
<p> Can a family of five survive on an income of RM550 per month, given the cost of living in Malaysia today? Where would they live? And can their children go to school?<br />
Malaysian household income distribution as quoted in the Eighth Malaysia Plan is pictured in Table 1 â€” with 75 per cent of Malaysian households earning below RM3,000 per month and 25 per cent of households earning below RM1,000 monthly. The same document (8MP) also specifies the poverty line for Semenanjung Malaysia as RM540 per month for a family of five individuals. Is this a realistic figure? </p>
<p>A living wage? </p>
<p>Table 1 &#8211; Household Income (RM/month)<br />
More than RM5,000	9.8%<br />
RM4,001 &#8211; RM5,000	5.5%<br />
RM3,001 &#8211; RM4,000	9.6%<br />
RM2,001 &#8211; RM3,000	17.4%<br />
RM1,001 &#8211; RM2,000	 32.7%<br />
RM501 &#8211; RM1,001	20.0%<br />
Less than RM500	 5.0%<br />
Source: Eighth Malaysia Plan.<br />
Can a family of five survive on an income of RM550 per month, given the cost of living in Malaysia today? Where would they live? And can their children go to school? Yet given the governmentâ€™s definition, they would not be classified as being poor. </p>
<p>At a meeting with 60 factory workers in Sg Siput recently, we asked them to suggest a reasonable household budget, and the outcome of that exercise is summarized in Table 2. The participants felt that the cost of buying a house and a small allocation for savings must be part of a balanced family budget. In their opinion, any family with a household budget of below RM1,750 would be facing economic hardship; </p>
<p>A realistic poverty line </p>
<p>Table 2 &#8211; Household Expenditure (per month)<br />
House Loan	400<br />
Marketing	 300<br />
Groceries	300<br />
School expenses	 200<br />
Motorbike	 150<br />
Medical/Clothes	100<br />
Festivals/Trips	100<br />
Light/Water/Phone	100<br />
Insurance/savings	100<br />
Total	RM1,750<br />
In Britain and in several other countries in the European Union, the poverty line is defined as one half the average household income. In Malaysia, the average household income is RM3,200 per month. Half this figure would be RM1,600. In other words if we used the definition used in Britain, households earning less than RM1,600 per month would be considered as poor! If RM1,600 per month is taken as the realistic poverty line, then around 50 per cent of Malaysians are poor â€” see the Income Pyramid overleaf â€” and this is the level of poverty as quoted by Mahathir for 1970! </p>
<p>No one is denying that there has been significant growth in the national economy. Per capita income (Per capita income = total income of the nation for that year divided by the population) has soared from RM1,132 in 1970 to RM13,683 presently! (Incidently, this would work out to an average household income of RM5,534 per month.) However as the income distribution pyramid depicts, the distribution of income in Malaysia is skewed towards the rich, and there is still significant poverty in Malaysia. </p>
<p>Perhaps the most incredulous aspect of Malaysiaâ€™s poverty statistics is that it hasnâ€™t been challenged by the mainstream media nor by the academicians. Big Brotherâ€™s doublespeak (term used by Orwell in his book 1984) apparently rules supreme in Malaysia today!</p>
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		<title>By: siren</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-19807</link>
		<dc:creator>siren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sepandai-pandainya tupai melompat.... 
akhirnya jatuh ke tanah juga...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sepandai-pandainya tupai melompat&#8230;.<br />
akhirnya jatuh ke tanah juga&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: yourself</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-10671</link>
		<dc:creator>yourself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dato seri syed azman syed ibrahim is my idol...! they group will be still number one muslim importers in malaysia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dato seri syed azman syed ibrahim is my idol&#8230;! they group will be still number one muslim importers in malaysia</p>
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		<title>By: Ah long</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-10539</link>
		<dc:creator>Ah long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well fellas what do you know... selling cars is not as simple as buy and sell thingy, try open up a car dealership , then you&#039;ll know how though it is to sell a single car, as these filthy rich AP holders are mere selling cars to those hardworking entrepreuneurs they don&#039;t need to face the customers to sell their cars... really easy money...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well fellas what do you know&#8230; selling cars is not as simple as buy and sell thingy, try open up a car dealership , then you&#8217;ll know how though it is to sell a single car, as these filthy rich AP holders are mere selling cars to those hardworking entrepreuneurs they don&#8217;t need to face the customers to sell their cars&#8230; really easy money&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Lim</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-10407</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of us do not have the luxury of getting the f#%@ of Msia and why should we?  This is our place, our right of passage.  While I have a few more choice expletives that I could add, for the chain of people responsible I shall exercise restraint and not stoop that low to grant them the satisfaction.  

Desperate times call for desperate measures.  One factor left out of this AP equation is why we continue to buy new cars?  Now more than ever, we should exercise people power in a sane and economically rational way. Stop buying new cars.  Then we&#039;ll see some real action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of us do not have the luxury of getting the f#%@ of Msia and why should we?  This is our place, our right of passage.  While I have a few more choice expletives that I could add, for the chain of people responsible I shall exercise restraint and not stoop that low to grant them the satisfaction.  </p>
<p>Desperate times call for desperate measures.  One factor left out of this AP equation is why we continue to buy new cars?  Now more than ever, we should exercise people power in a sane and economically rational way. Stop buying new cars.  Then we&#8217;ll see some real action.</p>
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		<title>By: m&#124;Ng</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8835</link>
		<dc:creator>m&#124;Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My gosh. All these years I&#039;ve been thinking that those super expensive imported cars are high priced because of government&#039;s high taxes on them. What the f**K! All our hard-earned money goes to those few businessmen who do nothing except bring in cars and give it to others to do the rest and still makes thousands of dollars from consumers.
And after seeing the houses of the kanasai Dato Syed apa apa...I&#039;m even more furious of these ppl.
Well hope the government do something about it. It&#039;s difficult to change overnight but at least do something to lower the cost of a car...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My gosh. All these years I&#8217;ve been thinking that those super expensive imported cars are high priced because of government&#8217;s high taxes on them. What the f**K! All our hard-earned money goes to those few businessmen who do nothing except bring in cars and give it to others to do the rest and still makes thousands of dollars from consumers.<br />
And after seeing the houses of the kanasai Dato Syed apa apa&#8230;I&#8217;m even more furious of these ppl.<br />
Well hope the government do something about it. It&#8217;s difficult to change overnight but at least do something to lower the cost of a car&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: neurra</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8759</link>
		<dc:creator>neurra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.. nothing to say other than keeping my fingers tied before i type some vulgar words here..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.. nothing to say other than keeping my fingers tied before i type some vulgar words here..</p>
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		<title>By: Another2Cents</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8552</link>
		<dc:creator>Another2Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m quite doubtful about the whole real purpose of AP. A few days back there was a report on UMNO AGM where the members raised the AP issue and one of them were saying something like this, if I&#039;m not mistaken. He actually suggested if these APs were distributed among the senior members like each one of them with one AP so they will have extra funds to support and aid its people.

The question that I wished to raise here is that; If I&#039;m not mistaken, someone with AP is able to import foreign car into Malaysia, right? UMNO members are not businessman who runs an automobile dealerships or something like that. So, how can an AP helps to provide extra cash to them? Are they trying to say that they are going to sell off these AP to other parties and get the cash themselves? He even said that, if these APs were distributed and they have extra fund, they wouldn&#039;t had sold of their UMNO building in order to be financially-abled.

It is really sickening seeing these people making easy money with our hard-earned. Can&#039;t they really just go by the road and not to take any short-cuts? Hmm.. maybe these are what we called a businessman. And these so-called UMNO members, from what I saw in the newspaper reports, they only gave me one idea, that they are really D*MN CHILDISH! Well, these are just my two-cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quite doubtful about the whole real purpose of AP. A few days back there was a report on UMNO AGM where the members raised the AP issue and one of them were saying something like this, if I&#8217;m not mistaken. He actually suggested if these APs were distributed among the senior members like each one of them with one AP so they will have extra funds to support and aid its people.</p>
<p>The question that I wished to raise here is that; If I&#8217;m not mistaken, someone with AP is able to import foreign car into Malaysia, right? UMNO members are not businessman who runs an automobile dealerships or something like that. So, how can an AP helps to provide extra cash to them? Are they trying to say that they are going to sell off these AP to other parties and get the cash themselves? He even said that, if these APs were distributed and they have extra fund, they wouldn&#8217;t had sold of their UMNO building in order to be financially-abled.</p>
<p>It is really sickening seeing these people making easy money with our hard-earned. Can&#8217;t they really just go by the road and not to take any short-cuts? Hmm.. maybe these are what we called a businessman. And these so-called UMNO members, from what I saw in the newspaper reports, they only gave me one idea, that they are really D*MN CHILDISH! Well, these are just my two-cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8465</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Paul - no doubt about it - your readers have just clearly illustrated that to make money with AP&#039;s is only a little more difficult than making MAGGI instant mee for breakfast.

It is disheartening to a loyal Malaysian to hear his brothers and sisters actually try to convince people about  how difficult it is - from those in the cabinet, to those spending their time on the golf courses - but then this is only what we should expect isn&#039;t it ? WHO you know, compared to WHAT you know, go to big brother for help at any oppurtunity - these are the values that have been driven home time and again.

The weekend&#039;s proceedings have now at least given me a little bit more hope -  some people amongst the powers that need be, now seem to recognise that typical Malaysian businessmen like those involved in the AP money printing business are merely cannon fodder in the international circuit.

Let us hope so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Paul &#8211; no doubt about it &#8211; your readers have just clearly illustrated that to make money with AP&#8217;s is only a little more difficult than making MAGGI instant mee for breakfast.</p>
<p>It is disheartening to a loyal Malaysian to hear his brothers and sisters actually try to convince people about  how difficult it is &#8211; from those in the cabinet, to those spending their time on the golf courses &#8211; but then this is only what we should expect isn&#8217;t it ? WHO you know, compared to WHAT you know, go to big brother for help at any oppurtunity &#8211; these are the values that have been driven home time and again.</p>
<p>The weekend&#8217;s proceedings have now at least given me a little bit more hope &#8211;  some people amongst the powers that need be, now seem to recognise that typical Malaysian businessmen like those involved in the AP money printing business are merely cannon fodder in the international circuit.</p>
<p>Let us hope so.</p>
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		<title>By: ah fook</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8451</link>
		<dc:creator>ah fook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buy Proton la...at least all the profit goes to the Gov to provide better facilities,medical fees to the rakyat...unlike buy imported car in which the money goes to these greedy,bloodsucking AP king&#039;s pocket...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buy Proton la&#8230;at least all the profit goes to the Gov to provide better facilities,medical fees to the rakyat&#8230;unlike buy imported car in which the money goes to these greedy,bloodsucking AP king&#8217;s pocket&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HANG JEBAT</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8442</link>
		<dc:creator>HANG JEBAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hell no i&#039;m gonna fork out of M&#039;sia... this is my country, my land, my birthplace... i love this country... it is the govt.that should be forked out of the arena!!! &amp; i&#039;m not just talking about the UMNO but the BN!!! no matter MIC or MCA &amp; espacially UMNO... i casted my vote to the opposite, &amp; i know BN still win, but atleast i&#039;m not the one who contribute to BN winning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hell no i&#8217;m gonna fork out of M&#8217;sia&#8230; this is my country, my land, my birthplace&#8230; i love this country&#8230; it is the govt.that should be forked out of the arena!!! &amp; i&#8217;m not just talking about the UMNO but the BN!!! no matter MIC or MCA &amp; espacially UMNO&#8230; i casted my vote to the opposite, &amp; i know BN still win, but atleast i&#8217;m not the one who contribute to BN winning&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pentan Sakua...</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8313</link>
		<dc:creator>Pentan Sakua...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 05:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever it is, what ever we say, they want to help those UMNOputra&#039;s..There is nothing we can do...Live it or just get the fork out of Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever it is, what ever we say, they want to help those UMNOputra&#8217;s..There is nothing we can do&#8230;Live it or just get the fork out of Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: MachangUnited.com</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8306</link>
		<dc:creator>MachangUnited.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow lots of great comment. Just call AP&#039;s BIAWAK! Our government create those biawak and we RAKYAT hv to PIKUL them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow lots of great comment. Just call AP&#8217;s BIAWAK! Our government create those biawak and we RAKYAT hv to PIKUL them</p>
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		<title>By: kelvin</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8302</link>
		<dc:creator>kelvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this really really need to brought up to the surface, we really need to voice it out!!! Or else after a few days, everything will go back to wat it &quot;should be&quot; already...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this really really need to brought up to the surface, we really need to voice it out!!! Or else after a few days, everything will go back to wat it &#8220;should be&#8221; already&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 2centstot</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8293</link>
		<dc:creator>2centstot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is so.........frustrating!! i really don&#039;t no what to say.....it really sucks to learn how these MF Bastards are playing with systems and making tonnes of money....let&#039;s hope this news spreads and maybe...just maybe...someone can do something to stop this BS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is so&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;frustrating!! i really don&#8217;t no what to say&#8230;..it really sucks to learn how these MF Bastards are playing with systems and making tonnes of money&#8230;.let&#8217;s hope this news spreads and maybe&#8230;just maybe&#8230;someone can do something to stop this BS!</p>
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		<title>By: jokko</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8291</link>
		<dc:creator>jokko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some debates about AP : 

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=37237&amp;page=1&amp;pp=15</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some debates about AP : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=37237&amp;page=1&amp;pp=15" rel="nofollow">http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=37237&amp;page=1&amp;pp=15</a></p>
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		<title>By: tan beng hooi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8286</link>
		<dc:creator>tan beng hooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If APs are such a simple money making machines why don&#039;t the Government consider giving all these APs to Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB) or Amanah Saham Bumiputera or WAKAF instead of individual businessmen. By doing this, it will benefit bumiputeras that purchase ASB or the poor as in WAKAF. I think the PM is thinking of changes and this is a good sign. I hope he will make the changes. The Government should think of benefitting the wider population of bumiputera instead of a few individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If APs are such a simple money making machines why don&#8217;t the Government consider giving all these APs to Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB) or Amanah Saham Bumiputera or WAKAF instead of individual businessmen. By doing this, it will benefit bumiputeras that purchase ASB or the poor as in WAKAF. I think the PM is thinking of changes and this is a good sign. I hope he will make the changes. The Government should think of benefitting the wider population of bumiputera instead of a few individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: myunus</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8283</link>
		<dc:creator>myunus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well.. they really can make easy money..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well.. they really can make easy money..</p>
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		<title>By: AlexC</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8282</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much can we, as an idividuals, voice our concern??? even penang, when we, as citizens of the island, signed hundred of thousands of petitions to stop the Penang Outer Ring Road (PORR), there is no stopping them to continue their project by just a wave from the government saying we need them... fyi, this bridge cost more than the north south highway... and one of the contractors, Seri Meraga, which havent complete their bridge in Bayan Baru area, due in years... guess what, rumours say sami vellu have a share in it too... anyone can verify this??? well, in short, is our government working for themselves or for the malaysian citizen???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much can we, as an idividuals, voice our concern??? even penang, when we, as citizens of the island, signed hundred of thousands of petitions to stop the Penang Outer Ring Road (PORR), there is no stopping them to continue their project by just a wave from the government saying we need them&#8230; fyi, this bridge cost more than the north south highway&#8230; and one of the contractors, Seri Meraga, which havent complete their bridge in Bayan Baru area, due in years&#8230; guess what, rumours say sami vellu have a share in it too&#8230; anyone can verify this??? well, in short, is our government working for themselves or for the malaysian citizen???</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8279</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 08:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>car buyers has been paying so much extra for the imported car just to feed all these unshameful money greedy souls who are directly benefiting from the AP. may God have mercy on the greedy people... may the rakyat be wise enough to choose the just government please..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>car buyers has been paying so much extra for the imported car just to feed all these unshameful money greedy souls who are directly benefiting from the AP. may God have mercy on the greedy people&#8230; may the rakyat be wise enough to choose the just government please..</p>
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		<title>By: aw3</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/24/how-franchise-ap-holders-make-their-money/#comment-8276</link>
		<dc:creator>aw3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 07:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It disgusts me that these selected Bumi businessmen, and Rafidah, can tell so many bald-faced lies and twisted spins to cover up their money-printing manipulations.

You are right, if they claim it is such hard work to distribute the cars, then *where* are their dealerships? What efforts have they exactly done?

Rafidah says in The Star today that they have to work hard to secure sole distributorship status from car manufacturers. How hard can that be when you tell the manufacturers:&quot; look, only people with APs like me can import in your cars. So you are going to give me sole distributorship or not?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It disgusts me that these selected Bumi businessmen, and Rafidah, can tell so many bald-faced lies and twisted spins to cover up their money-printing manipulations.</p>
<p>You are right, if they claim it is such hard work to distribute the cars, then *where* are their dealerships? What efforts have they exactly done?</p>
<p>Rafidah says in The Star today that they have to work hard to secure sole distributorship status from car manufacturers. How hard can that be when you tell the manufacturers:&#8221; look, only people with APs like me can import in your cars. So you are going to give me sole distributorship or not?&#8221;</p>
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