Comments on: Mahaleel Out Of A Job

By: Dreddj

Dreddj — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:59:56 +0000

TM was good. For charting the direction of Proton, raising its profile in the international arena. That’s great. But it stops there.

Changes are taking place too fast. CKD’s are gaining a headway in the market because of some loopholes in the AP process etc (no debate on this, please). Proton has not really taken up the challenge of going head to head in confronting the competition. Proton is just utilising government intervention to stave off the competition. Proton, after all, is the national car project … but political patronage is part of the game …Tun Mahatir’s feelings are hurt BUT that won’t restore Protons image at all as a provider of substandard cars locally. Proton is pampered!

We need a radical leader, one who is given the free hand to run Proton like a business. I don’t believe TM can take Proton further.

By: Killer Wave

Killer Wave — Fri, 29 Jul 2005 01:19:51 +0000

this badrul guy, one of 4 exco..quite good looking, ain’t it? wonder if he is as good as his looks…

By: wa sea hokkien lang too

wa sea hokkien lang too — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:37:28 +0000

i want to add more since this guy is nestle ceo
i think there will a alterletive fuel supply…….. for proton….
do you want to know…..
it’s meelo…. hua………… ha….. ha… ha….
why?
do you remenber milo motto?
ha ha ha ha ha …..

By: RR

RR — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:37:30 +0000

Hai again,

I support TUN’s statement on TV3 news at 8.00pm just now. I guest his elaboration more or less similar to my comments earlier. Well up to you all to judge. To those AP’s protectors and those who have intention to monopoly PROTON, think about the Malaysian people not just you pocket ok…We know what is happening and no need such swearing to gain some confidance on our statement. Be more resionale in putting their statement rather than making them like a fool to the world.

Chao

By: gegaoff

gegaoff — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:15:52 +0000

most important is not who become CEO of PROTON, but what is the future National Car Policies/Plan to PROTON…. or PERODUA also…
GOVERNMENT is the main role in this… not others… let’s pray for them…

By: Neon

Neon — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:10:25 +0000

i think TM has his good and bad point lah. The good is he try to change proton to become a self reliance companyand really make malaysian produce proud. But he forgot the customer feedback and keep pushing for new model, until sales slow down. IMHO, the board give him final chance after the AP saga in chinese newspaper, something like ” Sell a lot of Savvy, or OUT”. But Savvy sucks so much, he (and Dr. M) also mute looking to comparison of Myvi and Savvy (60,000 booking vs 800 registered!!). Hence, he must resignlah because he prove his method are not working. Futhermore, he is not good in his politic (he should ampu current PM more lah, dun always hang on to previous PM, should learn more from some guy name His****din lah, grooming his way to becaome future PM)

By: RR

RR — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:47:33 +0000

Well I believe that Proton Board of Directors @ KHAZANAH in particular had done a huge mistake for letting go such a visionary person like TM. Not that no other candidates can replace him, but somehow we have seen numerous incident head by KHAZANAH (i.e. RENONG) end with failures. They put only those who can abide to their command and disregard the fact for company’s development. In other word their main task is to gain “Speedy Profit” all this while.

Back to TM, it is a great lost to Malaysian Automobile especially PROTON if they do not know to value his capability in steering the company. If BN claims that Malaysian is a democratic country, than voicing public right is not an offence. He (TM) being penalise just because he is too vocal on the fact and that really put somebody “ASS” on fire. Well in this political games, there is always someone to be blame and to be nominated as HEROS.

I have seen enough on this unfinish conspiracy of KHAZANAH. The truth is we public should be made known what is happening in the Government structure of monopolizing the market. Wake up Malaysian, with all your pleasant complaints about PROTON has significantly bring down your own pride towards Malaysian capabilities to be leader in the Automobile industry. You rather see foreigners invating our national treature and that is really really discusting!

Now, Malaysian people are back to basis, we are no longer decide n our own vision but allowing others to plan for us. What a waste. No mater what TM, we think you have done your level best to deliver your message to all Malaysian, just that these people are still blinded by certain culprit tend to stand behind the storyboard.

So long TM, and again I should project you as a person with dynamic vision and capable enough to lead the company wth minimum supervision ot like those monkeys up there!

If my statement is to vocal than I may have the same faith like you than. The current concept now is to SHUT YR MOUTH and follow the flow. No offent readers, only IDIOT will agree with this statement.

Adios….TM

By: mitsu_galant_2000

mitsu_galant_2000 — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:06:38 +0000

that why i said.. “ii know the gov. :p )

By: bumboy

bumboy — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:27:59 +0000

you are kidding. the day a non-malay runs Proton, will be the day Bin Laden take over USA

By: KK

KK — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:27:54 +0000

Yahooo TM out……..!!!! But Yahoooooo if Dr.M out as welll!!!!!! Good news for Proton Quality!!!!!!!!!!

By: mitsu_galant_2000

mitsu_galant_2000 — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:48:08 +0000

we need a true bussiness men to fillup the position..
I believe in low profile millionaire in malaysia outside ther..

maybe :
Syed mokhtar al bukhory.. why ?.. because he’s the almost hardworkers and not kind of boros.. even he is jutawan.. he only used his first and old benz.. and the perdana only.. While others using super duper car..

Anatha Krisnan? those owner maxis , air asia (oh tony fernandez too) .. because they already prove their company and vision is done.. and also air asia chairman those ex great JPJ director that has clean-up JPJ’s from corruption = Pahamin Rajab.

YTL corperation owner? Dato… aaa chinese.. i forgot the name.. already has an empire of business even in HK etc..

This all kind of person bove a more to business man.. not so political.. proton need a businessman.. not politicalman..

Whoever be a Proton CEO.. even i’m a malay.. i really open if it’s notn malay as CEO.. Just to make all the thing great!..
no racism ok.. (yeah..i know the gov. )

By: kody

kody — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:27:03 +0000

whoever become CEO, i think it will not make very big different, if ‘potong’ still neglects customer feedback & crap vendor quality issue. Quality does not mean no defects then is good already. it also include the reliability & material used. The contract agreement on feedback is a very good move in terms of improve ‘potong’ quality. ‘Potong’ see what ur new satria replacement & savvy can do…. haha…*_*

By: December

December — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:25:37 +0000

I agree to Verne’s statement above, TM been a revolutionist for Proton, according to The Star, it seemed that he was the only CEO who had guts to make own cars instead of assembling, so i think as Verne said, TM has been made scapegoat, and all we see is just a drama, all lies, but then i think Perodua truly rocks!

By: Ezmil

Ezmil — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:24:27 +0000

Hopefully the next CEO will bring Proton to a new level, especially quality wise and choice of model to be sold. I myself drives a Proton. My Waja is my second Proton after my trusty (and rusty) old Wira. Proton just need more no nonsense car which is spacious, easy and cheap to maintain, good fuel economy and good handling dynamics, like the Waja 1.6. That’s why (I think) Waja is a bigger success than the newer Gen2 (cramp rear headroom) and Savvy (Renault engine ; I think Malaysian is not ready for this engine, especially after hearing bad stories from people who owns a Waja 1.8).

By: Verne

Verne — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:36:55 +0000

I beg to differ. I think TM has done a world of good for Proton. He’s just been made a scapegoat. He turned Proton from an assembler (a job Proton was adept in the helm of the late Tan Sri Yahya) to a car manufacturer. He is not perfect, like you and me. When you look at it from another perspective, TM gave Proton ‘balls’ to progress. He gave it vision and direction. If there is one thing Proton needs to change is certain quarters of its inefficient workforce. The last thing Proton will ever need is a CEO, chosen by the Board, a puppet under the influence of the Government/Khazanah/whatever crap bull team of inept lazy-ass mofos, who think they can build cars. Proton is run like a GLC. 100%. A unproductive, overweight monolith of a Company. Needs a major trim, me thinks.

Whoever is going to be at the helm of Proton, let’s hope he gets his hands dirty at foundation level, because mentality needs to be changed there. Excellence needs to instilled at there. Perhaps give every employee a copy of ‘The Toyota Way’ or something. I dunno. Do something different.

Like TM did something different.

Sigh.

By: artificial

artificial — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:11:07 +0000

at last..heheh

By: haji

haji — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:02:45 +0000

The man who head any company is the man who’s in charge of the company performance. Ghosn prove it. But another thing in Proton i would like to suggest. They lack of customer feedback. I remember one of my friends bought Daihatsu Mira L2 before Kancil was introduce. Daihatsu and the not more than 150 buyers required to sign an agreement. It stated that they have to give feedback, comments on the car. In two years time, the buyers cannot sell the car. It works. Perodua came out with revised Kancil which suit the need of most Malaysian thank’s to the feedback and comments from these users. Wonder if Proton ever do it. Remember Tiara? Remembar Arena? For sure, remember Juara? They forgot to include survey and feedback in their R&D. Better late than never. Proton must do it now. It is very important because Malaysian will buy these car, and this is the main source of information Proton neglected for a long decades.

By: napps

napps — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:28:34 +0000

mahaleel is a charismatic man, no doubt about it. the thing about mahaleel is that he’s too abrasive and confrontational. even his managers are actually scared/sick of him. there was this one time, at a function a group of financial analysts were sitting at a table there were two empty seats. A senior manager came over to them and ask if one of the seats was empty. so somebody yes, pls do have a seat. then he asked if somebody else was sitting at the other seat. an analyst said yes, tengku mahaleel. the manager actually said he’s going to get some other seat at another table and told them (cynically) to enjoy mahaleel’s company…..

By: napps

napps — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:21:46 +0000

Well said paul. Proton is not being run as a business. I met with Proton recently and an official told me how vendors get jobs. When a job is tendered, a vendor quotes his bid at a ridiculously low level, despite not having the expertise. When he is given the job, he asks Proton if he can raise the prices because it doesn’t even cover his costs! When Proton says no, u make it at the price u bid for, that’s where all the shoddy quality comes from. The vendor ignores quality and starts to short-change Proton.

The stigma of so-called ’social obligation’ is endemic to GLCs-Proton, Telekom, Tenaga…if this companies are allowed to run as businesses, they could fly really high, believe me…just look at the banks, although they are GLCs, they hardly have the social obligation stigma…Maybank, Commerce Asset

By: IJustKnow

IJustKnow — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:56:01 +0000

All in all TM had done some good job charting Proton in auto world. He only forgot about quality, design, performance..banyaklak..QC dept. tu close ler… Anyway, CEO don’t just run a company blindly…there’s always d Chairman and Board advising d decisions. They go out too eh !!!

Sorry for TUV to gamble their reputation in Savvy…

By: sprocket

sprocket — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:44:30 +0000

We all just wait & see, cross our fingers.

By: bumboy

bumboy — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:42:49 +0000

This CEO doesnt know how to run a car company. That’s all. He probably will do well now selling rotiboy.

As for cutting cost and increasing quality, there are various ways to achieve that. Bring good supply/parts manufacturer here to msia to start a plant. Force local supplier to buck up or lose business, etc.

Many of us want to be proud of proton. The smartest thing it ever did was to buy lotus (it’s a tragedy that Tan Sri Yahaya Ahmad had passed on). If only somebody in proton and lotus has the sense to shake things up, there could be a glimmer of hope.

By: mitsu_galant_2000

mitsu_galant_2000 — Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:31:38 +0000

the main question is..
WHO’S THE NEXT CEO?.
possible candicate?

hehe.. Apperentice for the next CEO.. gonna be a good Reality Show.. haha..

By: TUNGGU MAHA REL

TUNGGU MAHA REL — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:54:01 +0000

Dear all,
I will resign soon because I am getting old now.
Not a surprise, PROTON need ENGINEERING people to role to company. AUTO industrial needs much SKILLS in terms of Technical design, R&D capability and products future plans (Electrical Vehicle, Cost reduction with value added products……etc). I am not capable to understand these basic requirements, therefore I must leave now.

I hope the qualified CEO will not repeat my mistakes and I will try my best to support him with my past experience in AUTO industrial. Don’t Cry for me.

So long PROTON. Good bye2!

By: eAthena-Xeir4s

eAthena-Xeir4s — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:07:41 +0000

Nonono , its rather unfair to blame TM for all Proton’s fault…

I’d say , reorganize Proton. JUST LET VW BUY YA’ WILL YA?

VW can provide those needs to Proton =/

Sad.

By: zongtwi

zongtwi — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:15:09 +0000

Here in Lotus, people are already aware of this development, and everyone seem to be a bit relieved with TM’s departure. A very good move by the Proton board…let’s just hope this would be a new beginning for Proton, and would pave a new road for our ‘beloved’ national car in going forward and face globalisation.

By: Wingz

Wingz — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:10:07 +0000

oi i help you uncover the milo tin setori !!! wai no plug me !!! *howlssss*

By: wa sea hokkien lang too

wa sea hokkien lang too — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:13:19 +0000

well paul….
i see why people ‘kutuk’ our car like tin milo….
i get the picture.

By: sekot

sekot — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:08:52 +0000

Way to go! Good Luck Proton! Remember Ghosn?