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	<title>Comments on: Kleemann APs</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: DOG THE WAN</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8811</link>
		<dc:creator>DOG THE WAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hei abu, 
 
Why not? DOn&#039;t you forgot we have PM to do it. I trust him only of cause if they want me to do the job, I am willing to do so. Okay! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hei abu,</p>
<p>Why not? DOn&#039;t you forgot we have PM to do it. I trust him only of cause if they want me to do the job, I am willing to do so. Okay! </p>
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		<title>By: Cyder300</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8791</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyder300</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dun need to explain much....here is a formula.....AP = Dirty Money! So, fellow Malaysians still want to support and buy APed vehicles?  
 
Better buy local assembled Toyota, Honda, Perodua.....and if you are really got no choice, buy Modenas, Suzuki or Yamaha.....if really really desparate, maybe can consider a Proton la but dun buy APed related vehicle. 
 
Some more fuel prices going up and up....no need luxury cars....makan too much fuel, burn your wallet and pollute the air....die faster la. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dun need to explain much&#8230;.here is a formula&#8230;..AP = Dirty Money! So, fellow Malaysians still want to support and buy APed vehicles? </p>
<p>Better buy local assembled Toyota, Honda, Perodua&#8230;..and if you are really got no choice, buy Modenas, Suzuki or Yamaha&#8230;..if really really desparate, maybe can consider a Proton la but dun buy APed related vehicle.</p>
<p>Some more fuel prices going up and up&#8230;.no need luxury cars&#8230;.makan too much fuel, burn your wallet and pollute the air&#8230;.die faster la. </p>
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		<title>By: dando</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8770</link>
		<dc:creator>dando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if lexus also distributed by UMW ka?? i think some of the harriers were tuned up... i don&#039;t think it was brought by UMW.... especially the black ones with tinted glass... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if lexus also distributed by UMW ka?? i think some of the harriers were tuned up&#8230; i don&#039;t think it was brought by UMW&#8230;. especially the black ones with tinted glass&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8767</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damned good observation KP ! - just passed Bangsar, and there must have been at least 50 Harriers parked all over the place ( Friday lah ) - maybe some readers from the trade can help ? One is Open AP - that one we know. But the other one - boleh later apply for conversion kah ? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damned good observation KP ! &#8211; just passed Bangsar, and there must have been at least 50 Harriers parked all over the place ( Friday lah ) &#8211; maybe some readers from the trade can help ? One is Open AP &#8211; that one we know. But the other one &#8211; boleh later apply for conversion kah ? </p>
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		<title>By: abu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8762</link>
		<dc:creator>abu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOG THE WAN said, 
July 29, 2005 @ 1:08 pm  
 
DOG THE WAN, 
 
I think we don&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t need to talk too much. Just Ask this FAT WOMEN to resign and get lost. F****King FAT PARASITE Liar, 
 
- I dont think this will solve the problem. The next one who is gonna replace her will be another big fat and f***king liar if he/she can still make a huge wealth out of all this hanky panky. Thats another Malaysia/Bolehland culture: &quot;Blackbox operation&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOG THE WAN said,</p>
<p>July 29, 2005 @ 1:08 pm </p>
<p>DOG THE WAN,</p>
<p>I think we don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t need to talk too much. Just Ask this FAT WOMEN to resign and get lost. F****King FAT PARASITE Liar,</p>
<p>- I dont think this will solve the problem. The next one who is gonna replace her will be another big fat and f***king liar if he/she can still make a huge wealth out of all this hanky panky. Thats another Malaysia/Bolehland culture: &quot;Blackbox operation&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8760</link>
		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed one disparity in the APs and real observation. You will agree that one of the most popular imports is the Toyota Harrier (and the police/insurance companies will agree it is the most stolen). We see it more often than Mercs and Beemers, yet UMW is given only 107 based on 2004 performance. Where do the rest come from? All from open AP&#039;s? or is there some horse trading going on. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve noticed one disparity in the APs and real observation. You will agree that one of the most popular imports is the Toyota Harrier (and the police/insurance companies will agree it is the most stolen). We see it more often than Mercs and Beemers, yet UMW is given only 107 based on 2004 performance. Where do the rest come from? All from open AP&#039;s? or is there some horse trading going on. </p>
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		<title>By: DOG THE WAN</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8748</link>
		<dc:creator>DOG THE WAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOG THE WAN, 
 
I think we don&#039;t need to talk too much. Just Ask this FAT WOMEN to resign and get lost. F****King FAT PARASITE Liar, now I know why she is FAT and the mouth is big. Dr M is correct! PEOPLE should know the real story behind. Now Everyone knew it!! GOOD! 
 
I think the God &quot;KNOWS WHAT SHE DID LAST TIME (Not Summer)&quot;, new scary movie title. Insyah Allah she will be punish soon. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOG THE WAN,</p>
<p>I think we don&#039;t need to talk too much. Just Ask this FAT WOMEN to resign and get lost. F****King FAT PARASITE Liar, now I know why she is FAT and the mouth is big. Dr M is correct! PEOPLE should know the real story behind. Now Everyone knew it!! GOOD!</p>
<p>I think the God &quot;KNOWS WHAT SHE DID LAST TIME (Not Summer)&quot;, new scary movie title. Insyah Allah she will be punish soon. </p>
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		<title>By: abu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8744</link>
		<dc:creator>abu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats the time u muz use your &quot;TAK APE LAH&quot; broom...to sweet it under under &quot;Time pass by case get forgotten&quot; Carpet. 
 
2 Famous products by Malaysian Government. Has been &quot;effektive&quot; since 70&#039;s </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats the time u muz use your &quot;TAK APE LAH&quot; broom&#8230;to sweet it under under &quot;Time pass by case get forgotten&quot; Carpet.</p>
<p>2 Famous products by Malaysian Government. Has been &quot;effektive&quot; since 70&#039;s </p>
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		<title>By: Neon</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8738</link>
		<dc:creator>Neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure lah, if people dig in further ah.. all smelly shit also come out, then how to cover..haha </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure lah, if people dig in further ah.. all smelly shit also come out, then how to cover..haha </p>
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		<title>By: abu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8737</link>
		<dc:creator>abu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Rafida&#039;s brother getting angry when he was picked on that his daughter got APs? Scare further story to be &#039;digged&#039; out? or his daughter has a &#039;previledges&#039; getting the AP from the &#039;Aunties&#039;? or &#039;Auntie&#039; has a share on the bzness? perhaps he has not pile up his pillow to think that if he is not Rafida&#039;s brother...would he be granting the APs to his daughter (who?) 
 
Hmm...I think the One-Eye-Guy liang teh wouldnt be enough for him now </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Rafida&#039;s brother getting angry when he was picked on that his daughter got APs? Scare further story to be &#039;digged&#039; out? or his daughter has a &#039;previledges&#039; getting the AP from the &#039;Aunties&#039;? or &#039;Auntie&#039; has a share on the bzness? perhaps he has not pile up his pillow to think that if he is not Rafida&#039;s brother&#8230;would he be granting the APs to his daughter (who?)</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;I think the One-Eye-Guy liang teh wouldnt be enough for him now </p>
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		<title>By: Neon</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8734</link>
		<dc:creator>Neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got your point, i agrree with you </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got your point, i agrree with you </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8732</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neon: I know lah. I was purposedly being very optimistic with the calculation so that the maximum number of possible AP in a perfect world is obtained to compare it with the 850 APs given. 
 
If we use your train of thought, the predicted sales is even less! 
 
I said: 
 
&lt;blockquote&gt; I will choose a best-case calculation scenario which produce the most sales in each case.&lt;/blockquote&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neon: I know lah. I was purposedly being very optimistic with the calculation so that the maximum number of possible AP in a perfect world is obtained to compare it with the 850 APs given.</p>
<p>If we use your train of thought, the predicted sales is even less!</p>
<p>I said:</p>
<blockquote><p> I will choose a best-case calculation scenario which produce the most sales in each case.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Neon</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8730</link>
		<dc:creator>Neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, paul.. i am not trying to &quot;throw you cold water&quot; but carefully you read that statement, it means Klemann hope to sell 30 to 40 car in first month, and expect to decline in foloowing month, hence in a year they hope to sell 250 which include 30 car in first month and the rest in following month. About the Rm500 k, it means it cost minimum Rm500k, so some may cost few milion, hence it also give out a some number if you consider all the model that cost differently. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, paul.. i am not trying to &quot;throw you cold water&quot; but carefully you read that statement, it means Klemann hope to sell 30 to 40 car in first month, and expect to decline in foloowing month, hence in a year they hope to sell 250 which include 30 car in first month and the rest in following month. About the Rm500 k, it means it cost minimum Rm500k, so some may cost few milion, hence it also give out a some number if you consider all the model that cost differently. </p>
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		<title>By: AlexC</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8725</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem in our society is, we as citizens do not have the power to voice our concern... how much information is &#039;sterilized&#039; in our media locally... what can we say as an individuals... and if the opposition to raise issue, what is their first reaction??? REBUTTAL!!! and what if its one of the ruling party??? BREANKING RANK!!! so, any possibility of improvement??? i agree with aw3, is there anything that you could do to publicize your website paul??? or make the info that you published known to the general public??? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem in our society is, we as citizens do not have the power to voice our concern&#8230; how much information is &#039;sterilized&#039; in our media locally&#8230; what can we say as an individuals&#8230; and if the opposition to raise issue, what is their first reaction??? REBUTTAL!!! and what if its one of the ruling party??? BREANKING RANK!!! so, any possibility of improvement??? i agree with aw3, is there anything that you could do to publicize your website paul??? or make the info that you published known to the general public??? </p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8706</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power to the bloggers. This is why we need participatory democracy.  Brains of many will always beat  the orwellian pigs who think the are sooo.... special.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power to the bloggers. This is why we need participatory democracy.  Brains of many will always beat  the orwellian pigs who think the are sooo&#8230;. special.. </p>
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		<title>By: aw3</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/07/29/kleemann-aps/#comment-8705</link>
		<dc:creator>aw3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 07:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good bit of math and observation!!  
 
These $%$^^^&amp;$%2345 politicians and their ilk always think they can sprout out garbage and expect to skim over the issues. 
 
Paul, would you email a shorter version of this calculation to The Star?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://thestar.com.my/info/write2us.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thestar.com.my/info/write2us.asp&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good bit of math and observation!! </p>
<p>These $%$^^^&amp;$%2345 politicians and their ilk always think they can sprout out garbage and expect to skim over the issues.</p>
<p>Paul, would you email a shorter version of this calculation to The Star?<br />
  <a href="http://thestar.com.my/info/write2us.asp" rel="nofollow">http://thestar.com.my/info/write2us.asp</a> </p>
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