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	<title>Comments on: Dr. M&#8217;s AP Formula</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: Quest</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-13586</link>
		<dc:creator>Quest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seriously feel M&#039;sia should allow foreign car makers to invest into Proton, and not keep holding to the Malaysian Pride thing.  20 years and the quality has taken a few steps back relative to other current makes and models.  Tagging it &quot;Lotus Tuned&quot; next Tagging it Kleeman tuned?  Geez, do something about yr quality 1st.  If you can&#039;t do it, allow foreign investments ie. actual ownership tie-up with Volks, to do it for you.  Then you can compete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously feel M&#8217;sia should allow foreign car makers to invest into Proton, and not keep holding to the Malaysian Pride thing.  20 years and the quality has taken a few steps back relative to other current makes and models.  Tagging it &#8220;Lotus Tuned&#8221; next Tagging it Kleeman tuned?  Geez, do something about yr quality 1st.  If you can&#8217;t do it, allow foreign investments ie. actual ownership tie-up with Volks, to do it for you.  Then you can compete.</p>
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		<title>By: DAN</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11657</link>
		<dc:creator>DAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>adam said,
August 28, 2005 @ 9:33 pm .

a dam. my English is not yours, if u like to lick my ass just feel it but dont make noise. i dont see your english in this shot comment prove u really do will dont u.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adam said,<br />
August 28, 2005 @ 9:33 pm .</p>
<p>a dam. my English is not yours, if u like to lick my ass just feel it but dont make noise. i dont see your english in this shot comment prove u really do will dont u.</p>
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		<title>By: aksMS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11527</link>
		<dc:creator>aksMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton is trying too hard to be an European cars. They want to make a Gen.2 with a VW Golf quality, the base price sky rocketed. The SMI&#039;s couldnt find a solution to make better quality and cheaper parts. Why do they still wants Proton to babysit these SMI&#039;s I don&#039;t know. I do believe Proton is capable of producing a cheaper and good quality cars. Probably cheaper than the Korean if they are not babysitting anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton is trying too hard to be an European cars. They want to make a Gen.2 with a VW Golf quality, the base price sky rocketed. The SMI&#8217;s couldnt find a solution to make better quality and cheaper parts. Why do they still wants Proton to babysit these SMI&#8217;s I don&#8217;t know. I do believe Proton is capable of producing a cheaper and good quality cars. Probably cheaper than the Korean if they are not babysitting anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: FiveElements</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11505</link>
		<dc:creator>FiveElements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO JUAN.....

Hey mate, no offense but you do sound like one of those out there who are waiting to be spoon fed, waiting  for the whole world to bring meals to your bed site and clean up for you after you finish.

Common, just to be fair....you try and work at proton......try do a shit job there for 5 months....lets see if they will still keep you or FIRE you straight away!!!!  Government has given them all kind of help and protection for god knows how long....so should the rakyat till put up with this lame excuses.

Common Juan is just UGLY......what makes u think we are no better than the Japanese??? We can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just there are a bunch of clowns runing the business at proton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO JUAN&#8230;..</p>
<p>Hey mate, no offense but you do sound like one of those out there who are waiting to be spoon fed, waiting  for the whole world to bring meals to your bed site and clean up for you after you finish.</p>
<p>Common, just to be fair&#8230;.you try and work at proton&#8230;&#8230;try do a shit job there for 5 months&#8230;.lets see if they will still keep you or FIRE you straight away!!!!  Government has given them all kind of help and protection for god knows how long&#8230;.so should the rakyat till put up with this lame excuses.</p>
<p>Common Juan is just UGLY&#8230;&#8230;what makes u think we are no better than the Japanese??? We can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just there are a bunch of clowns runing the business at proton.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11454</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m new here. Think that the whole culture of Proton need to be re-engineered. Many times when somebody is being protected such as Proton, they will just becomes so comfortable on themselves and Proton should&#039;ve &quot;wake up&quot; because of this APs, cheaper import cars, better 2nd national car (Perodua). Seems Proton&#039;s &#039;protection&#039; failed. But failed in a manner that it suppose to be a stepping stone to challenge the whole Proton to become more competitive. 

Lots of examples and concepts that can be adopted here and there. Look at Toyota (Vios, Avanza, Hilux, Innova). They managed to penetrate all market segment with only a little &#039;trick&#039;. Price is the constrained for them to manufacture purely in Japan so small step is to manufacture outside Japan to Asia countries, which there&#039;s lots of unexplored manufacturing site (China). If Proton slowly want to become competitive, I believe first thing is to come up cheaper with the current car that they can offer and then later comes the technological innovation and a better car. Many people will agree of what i say that if eg. Proton Wira did cost reduction from the start, they suppose to be selling at RM25,000 or below now given the car design changes at snail speed.

Learn to start from the basics again will be a better option..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new here. Think that the whole culture of Proton need to be re-engineered. Many times when somebody is being protected such as Proton, they will just becomes so comfortable on themselves and Proton should&#8217;ve &#8220;wake up&#8221; because of this APs, cheaper import cars, better 2nd national car (Perodua). Seems Proton&#8217;s &#8216;protection&#8217; failed. But failed in a manner that it suppose to be a stepping stone to challenge the whole Proton to become more competitive. </p>
<p>Lots of examples and concepts that can be adopted here and there. Look at Toyota (Vios, Avanza, Hilux, Innova). They managed to penetrate all market segment with only a little &#8216;trick&#8217;. Price is the constrained for them to manufacture purely in Japan so small step is to manufacture outside Japan to Asia countries, which there&#8217;s lots of unexplored manufacturing site (China). If Proton slowly want to become competitive, I believe first thing is to come up cheaper with the current car that they can offer and then later comes the technological innovation and a better car. Many people will agree of what i say that if eg. Proton Wira did cost reduction from the start, they suppose to be selling at RM25,000 or below now given the car design changes at snail speed.</p>
<p>Learn to start from the basics again will be a better option..</p>
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		<title>By: rave</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11434</link>
		<dc:creator>rave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 06:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not really a sakit mata issue then.....Paul, good job man......efficient...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not really a sakit mata issue then&#8230;..Paul, good job man&#8230;&#8230;efficient&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11418</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOG THE WAN: I already did that lah hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOG THE WAN: I already did that lah hehe</p>
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		<title>By: DOG THE WAN</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11416</link>
		<dc:creator>DOG THE WAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Rave bro, I agreed with you. Return of VW not related to this article, actually I just wanna to remind Paul to add a new BLOG on Dr M return the car issue! Can ar???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Rave bro, I agreed with you. Return of VW not related to this article, actually I just wanna to remind Paul to add a new BLOG on Dr M return the car issue! Can ar???</p>
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		<title>By: rave</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11405</link>
		<dc:creator>rave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan...
I totally agree with you...... Proton suports local SMI= local economy...i am sure if they are allowed they would source for other manufacturers abroad to attain cheaper and better quality parts= better quality cars.
Its the same as Petronas. It bailed out MISC and MAS. DRM commented &quot; why should i have a diamond=petronas in hand when my entire family= rakyat starve. makes sense.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan&#8230;<br />
I totally agree with you&#8230;&#8230; Proton suports local SMI= local economy&#8230;i am sure if they are allowed they would source for other manufacturers abroad to attain cheaper and better quality parts= better quality cars.<br />
Its the same as Petronas. It bailed out MISC and MAS. DRM commented &#8221; why should i have a diamond=petronas in hand when my entire family= rakyat starve. makes sense&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rave</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11403</link>
		<dc:creator>rave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dog the wan,
you seem to have your own interpretation of the whole article....
be contructive my friend.......dont just bombared......sound childish...
DrM returned the car the cars because he disagreed with the management not because ha had soar eyes....and if you read the article carefully, he returned the VW too.....what have you got to say bout that.....jeez...pleaselah....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dog the wan,<br />
you seem to have your own interpretation of the whole article&#8230;.<br />
be contructive my friend&#8230;&#8230;.dont just bombared&#8230;&#8230;sound childish&#8230;<br />
DrM returned the car the cars because he disagreed with the management not because ha had soar eyes&#8230;.and if you read the article carefully, he returned the VW too&#8230;..what have you got to say bout that&#8230;..jeez&#8230;pleaselah&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: abu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11395</link>
		<dc:creator>abu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 03:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only 2 ways protong will survive:

1) Get other manufacturer such as VW to involve and start producing quality cars.

2) Abolish the APs and stops any mported cars to this boleh land. Well that time you and i runs out of choice and force to buy proton..that will ensure its survival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only 2 ways protong will survive:</p>
<p>1) Get other manufacturer such as VW to involve and start producing quality cars.</p>
<p>2) Abolish the APs and stops any mported cars to this boleh land. Well that time you and i runs out of choice and force to buy proton..that will ensure its survival.</p>
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		<title>By: abu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11392</link>
		<dc:creator>abu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 03:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No choice...now he oni got potong to hold on...without potong he&#039;s a half-death man. If Abdullah and rapida gips his son another 1000 APs guess wat will happen?

He will shut the f*** up larrrr....its all about the quota larrrr...jibet u think snake would carry a human characteristic? nah~~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No choice&#8230;now he oni got potong to hold on&#8230;without potong he&#8217;s a half-death man. If Abdullah and rapida gips his son another 1000 APs guess wat will happen?</p>
<p>He will shut the f*** up larrrr&#8230;.its all about the quota larrrr&#8230;jibet u think snake would carry a human characteristic? nah~~~</p>
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		<title>By: DOG THE WAN</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11383</link>
		<dc:creator>DOG THE WAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 02:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s The Star, Dr M wanna to return the cars to PROTON. Now Even he himself had suck with PROTON now. I sound like....Ambil baliklah, Take back the cars......Padang pun SAKIT MATA!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s The Star, Dr M wanna to return the cars to PROTON. Now Even he himself had suck with PROTON now. I sound like&#8230;.Ambil baliklah, Take back the cars&#8230;&#8230;Padang pun SAKIT MATA!!</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11326</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAN as i always said, your english is kanasai la. really need to do something or all the pretty girls will not accept your thing in them man. 
sad.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAN as i always said, your english is kanasai la. really need to do something or all the pretty girls will not accept your thing in them man.<br />
sad&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: mat kot</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11291</link>
		<dc:creator>mat kot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shame of you DR M !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shame of you DR M !</p>
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		<title>By: mat kot</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11289</link>
		<dc:creator>mat kot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kereta proton sebenarnya mejejaskan image negara and beban rakyat semakin berat berpunca drp polisi kerajaan. sampai bila Dr M  sedar drp hakikat itu? rakyat benci sama dia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kereta proton sebenarnya mejejaskan image negara and beban rakyat semakin berat berpunca drp polisi kerajaan. sampai bila Dr M  sedar drp hakikat itu? rakyat benci sama dia!</p>
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		<title>By: mat kot</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11288</link>
		<dc:creator>mat kot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kereta proton tidak bermutu dan mahal sekali ,bagi proton mati ,baru kita orong bolen dapat kereta murah . bayangkan toyota vios dijual dengan harga
iswara !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kereta proton tidak bermutu dan mahal sekali ,bagi proton mati ,baru kita orong bolen dapat kereta murah . bayangkan toyota vios dijual dengan harga<br />
iswara !</p>
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		<title>By: AlexC</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11286</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Went to showroom with a friend... new car price increase for AP will slit your throat... confirmed cars will have at least 10k price increase... toyota wish increased for about 18k itself... never ending increase to car prices even before the AP dispute is over yet... and yes wilfred, am not going to buy proton either... cant afford ap cars, cheaper jap or perodua for me too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Went to showroom with a friend&#8230; new car price increase for AP will slit your throat&#8230; confirmed cars will have at least 10k price increase&#8230; toyota wish increased for about 18k itself&#8230; never ending increase to car prices even before the AP dispute is over yet&#8230; and yes wilfred, am not going to buy proton either&#8230; cant afford ap cars, cheaper jap or perodua for me too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kanasai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11280</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanasai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Juan...

yeah... is so hard to produce home made car. but u think is easy to earn money and GIVE it to easy tak apa home made super low quality car? i think is easy for u to give it to them (for 20 years) but not for us. i felt cheated as a comsumer by Proton... of what? everything!!! n pls la, if others manufacturer can produce low cost but high quality car, then we too can do it. but again, why our national car, NATIONAL CAR FOR GOD SAKE!!! have such small tiny little problem like power window failure, unknown sound from engine, break sound, high vibration and droping parts (i think not enuf glue) to the bigger problem like overheat engine and paint came off!! is this wut we pay for!! i will be driving proton for another 2 years and by then is proton have not roll out with a better car, i op for Perodua or Naza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Juan&#8230;</p>
<p>yeah&#8230; is so hard to produce home made car. but u think is easy to earn money and GIVE it to easy tak apa home made super low quality car? i think is easy for u to give it to them (for 20 years) but not for us. i felt cheated as a comsumer by Proton&#8230; of what? everything!!! n pls la, if others manufacturer can produce low cost but high quality car, then we too can do it. but again, why our national car, NATIONAL CAR FOR GOD SAKE!!! have such small tiny little problem like power window failure, unknown sound from engine, break sound, high vibration and droping parts (i think not enuf glue) to the bigger problem like overheat engine and paint came off!! is this wut we pay for!! i will be driving proton for another 2 years and by then is proton have not roll out with a better car, i op for Perodua or Naza.</p>
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		<title>By: Kanasai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11279</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanasai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i m a proton driver... and many of my frens is also a proton driver. u know wut they think.... &quot;Proton will not be their next car!!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i m a proton driver&#8230; and many of my frens is also a proton driver. u know wut they think&#8230;. &#8220;Proton will not be their next car!!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Wilfred</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11273</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still want to being protecteed?????

com&#039;on man....

20 years already....how long you still wanna under umbrella????

my next car.....will never be proton....

foreign car will be.....the least is perodua....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still want to being protecteed?????</p>
<p>com&#8217;on man&#8230;.</p>
<p>20 years already&#8230;.how long you still wanna under umbrella????</p>
<p>my next car&#8230;..will never be proton&#8230;.</p>
<p>foreign car will be&#8230;..the least is perodua&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11266</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waaaa...U all talk like u all can make beautiful in design and highly performance car...Do u know how much Proton or any car manufacturer have 2 spend just to produce a prototype car.? If Proton want to make cars that satisfy u all..I think most Malaysian wont buy it because of the price is high.U all said Korean cars have more quality than Proton..? Naaahhh...try to compare 2 years old Waja with Sephia..which car&#039;s engine make more noice like it have been 5-6 years old..Yeah I know most of the models by Proton having problems even they not even reach 6 months on the road.This are due of high volume production by proton..they assembled 3 times more cars than Toyota&#039;s plant in Sect. 15 S.Alam per day.More output that&#039;s mean less time to inspect the car thoroughly.High daily output but still buyers have to wait months to receive the cars.Imagine if proton slowing the output like toyota to maintain the quality.I think people like u guys the one will &#039;kecoh&#039;.We cant compare Proton with Japanese manufacturer..they make cars long before Malaysia reached independence.U guys maybe not working with a car&#039;s manufacturer, that&#039;s why u dont know how hard to make a world class quality cars but still have to maintain it at a low price.Please take note..Perodua is controlled 49% by Daihatsu  while Mitsubishi only held minor stake in Proton.Proton goes up or down wont effect Mitsubishi. I&#039;ll continue later..
p/s : Guys..dont forget..if not by Dr. M&#039;s visions and effort,Malaysia dont have it own national cars..he make the world &#039;realised&#039; there&#039;s a rapidly developed country &#039;near&#039; Singapore..like Malays said...&quot;jgn jadi kacang lupakan kulit&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waaaa&#8230;U all talk like u all can make beautiful in design and highly performance car&#8230;Do u know how much Proton or any car manufacturer have 2 spend just to produce a prototype car.? If Proton want to make cars that satisfy u all..I think most Malaysian wont buy it because of the price is high.U all said Korean cars have more quality than Proton..? Naaahhh&#8230;try to compare 2 years old Waja with Sephia..which car&#8217;s engine make more noice like it have been 5-6 years old..Yeah I know most of the models by Proton having problems even they not even reach 6 months on the road.This are due of high volume production by proton..they assembled 3 times more cars than Toyota&#8217;s plant in Sect. 15 S.Alam per day.More output that&#8217;s mean less time to inspect the car thoroughly.High daily output but still buyers have to wait months to receive the cars.Imagine if proton slowing the output like toyota to maintain the quality.I think people like u guys the one will &#8216;kecoh&#8217;.We cant compare Proton with Japanese manufacturer..they make cars long before Malaysia reached independence.U guys maybe not working with a car&#8217;s manufacturer, that&#8217;s why u dont know how hard to make a world class quality cars but still have to maintain it at a low price.Please take note..Perodua is controlled 49% by Daihatsu  while Mitsubishi only held minor stake in Proton.Proton goes up or down wont effect Mitsubishi. I&#8217;ll continue later..<br />
p/s : Guys..dont forget..if not by Dr. M&#8217;s visions and effort,Malaysia dont have it own national cars..he make the world &#8216;realised&#8217; there&#8217;s a rapidly developed country &#8216;near&#8217; Singapore..like Malays said&#8230;&#8221;jgn jadi kacang lupakan kulit&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: DR sss M.D.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11242</link>
		<dc:creator>DR sss M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton...dont be a child....try to improve ur self...not by this childish way..otherwise u all will not improved at all.....still at shit level...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton&#8230;dont be a child&#8230;.try to improve ur self&#8230;not by this childish way..otherwise u all will not improved at all&#8230;..still at shit level&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DR sss M.D.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11241</link>
		<dc:creator>DR sss M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what da F***!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what da F***!</p>
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		<title>By: Apai Mau</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11221</link>
		<dc:creator>Apai Mau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 08:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better buy an MPV like the Grandis/Chariot/Innova etc. from these AP guys for a lower interest rate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better buy an MPV like the Grandis/Chariot/Innova etc. from these AP guys for a lower interest rate</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael_Bonaparte</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11137</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikael_Bonaparte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HIs baby la, Potong is his baby, his child, he wants to protect it, that&#039;s why. But business wise, it&#039;s plain stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HIs baby la, Potong is his baby, his child, he wants to protect it, that&#8217;s why. But business wise, it&#8217;s plain stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: naruto</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11136</link>
		<dc:creator>naruto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>totally fuksht bullsht</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally fuksht bullsht</p>
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		<title>By: FiveElements</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11113</link>
		<dc:creator>FiveElements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another idiotic comment!!! I think Malaysian are generally sick of it!!!! What AP???? There shouldnt be AP at all. Does AP really help the Malay????? The answer is YES. Only those on the top (in the politics) and those who can afford to throw our ex pm a birthday party at this multi-million ringgit plant.

If PROTON cannot survive just closed it down. Or just sell it off. Damn....this people at proton are making shit loads of money where we the tax payers are in return ripped off by our so call NATIONAL CAR MAKER!!!! 

It&#039;s just ridiculous that government own majority shares in corporations.....yeah..corporation like Khazanah......what the hack.........????

Malaysian open your eyes, look around what is happening now!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another idiotic comment!!! I think Malaysian are generally sick of it!!!! What AP???? There shouldnt be AP at all. Does AP really help the Malay????? The answer is YES. Only those on the top (in the politics) and those who can afford to throw our ex pm a birthday party at this multi-million ringgit plant.</p>
<p>If PROTON cannot survive just closed it down. Or just sell it off. Damn&#8230;.this people at proton are making shit loads of money where we the tax payers are in return ripped off by our so call NATIONAL CAR MAKER!!!! </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just ridiculous that government own majority shares in corporations&#8230;..yeah..corporation like Khazanah&#8230;&#8230;what the hack&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;????</p>
<p>Malaysian open your eyes, look around what is happening now!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: AutumnAshes</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11097</link>
		<dc:creator>AutumnAshes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think dr.M must be on dope when he said that. isn&#039;t it a reality of the REAL business world, where the fittest survive? if you can&#039;t improve, that&#039;s it, either you evolve into a better product or you become obsolete....but NO, PROTON wont do that! instead they act like cry baby asking for mother&#039;s help when they themselves can&#039;t handle their own problems. in fact, come to think of it, their mother has been helping them since they were born!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think dr.M must be on dope when he said that. isn&#8217;t it a reality of the REAL business world, where the fittest survive? if you can&#8217;t improve, that&#8217;s it, either you evolve into a better product or you become obsolete&#8230;.but NO, PROTON wont do that! instead they act like cry baby asking for mother&#8217;s help when they themselves can&#8217;t handle their own problems. in fact, come to think of it, their mother has been helping them since they were born!!</p>
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		<title>By: DR A</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/dr-ms-ap-formula/#comment-11094</link>
		<dc:creator>DR A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 04:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they only invest money into their own pocket..... what they acting now is just shown that they got do something to Proton..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they only invest money into their own pocket&#8230;.. what they acting now is just shown that they got do something to Proton..</p>
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