Comments on: Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MIEV http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:00:44 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mitsubishi i MIEV Research Electric Vehicle http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-53319 Mitsubishi i MIEV Research Electric Vehicle Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:53:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-53319 [...] The 1080kg electric vehicle is powered by a permanent magnet synchronous motor developing 63 horsepower and 180Nm of torque. This motor spins up to 8,500rpm, which translates to a top speed of 130km/h. This is hooked up to a pack of 330 volt lithium ion batteries which will have a 16 kWh capacity at first, but is expected to be 20 kWh during the fleet test phase. With a 100V power supply, it charges in 11 hours to 80%, and with a 200V supply it fills up to 80% capacity in 4 hours. And did I mention it’s rear wheel drive? I just did Check out Mitsubishi’s other electric vehicle, the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MIEV. [...] [...] The 1080kg electric vehicle is powered by a permanent magnet synchronous motor developing 63 horsepower and 180Nm of torque. This motor spins up to 8,500rpm, which translates to a top speed of 130km/h. This is hooked up to a pack of 330 volt lithium ion batteries which will have a 16 kWh capacity at first, but is expected to be 20 kWh during the fleet test phase. With a 100V power supply, it charges in 11 hours to 80%, and with a 200V supply it fills up to 80% capacity in 4 hours. And did I mention it’s rear wheel drive? I just did Check out Mitsubishi’s other electric vehicle, the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MIEV. [...]

]]> By: Ajay Nair http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-25061 Ajay Nair Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:35:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-25061 Way to GO Lancer!! Superb! Way to GO Lancer!! Superb!

]]> By: cougarman http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-16396 cougarman Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:37:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-16396 The tzero whoops a$$, and is available now... Only ONE left for sale! The tzero whoops a$$, and is available now… Only ONE left for sale!

]]> By: spotrag http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-16011 spotrag Sun, 02 Oct 2005 07:17:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-16011 Lancer,the name itself means "the soldier of cavalry".Now its the soldier with few more weapons. Lancer,the name itself means “the soldier of cavalry”.Now its the soldier with few more weapons.

]]> By: D http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-15964 D Sat, 01 Oct 2005 14:24:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-15964 finally the auto giants will sit up and take notice,its high time these manufacturers got serious bout using sources other than oil.they will never match the conventional ones in terms reliability and most importantly the sentiments of auto junkies like us,but still i say this is a step in the right direction,who knows technological advancements could get these on par with the grunty ones too. kudos to mitsubishi for giving us a sexy option to go green.i just love the evo man finally the auto giants will sit up and take notice,its high time these manufacturers got serious bout using sources other than oil.they will never match the conventional ones in terms reliability and most importantly the sentiments of auto junkies like us,but still i say this is a step in the right direction,who knows technological advancements could get these on par with the grunty ones too. kudos to mitsubishi for giving us a sexy option to go green.i just love the evo man

]]> By: DOG THE WAN http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11170 DOG THE WAN Sat, 27 Aug 2005 00:35:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11170 Just wondering, if Mitsubishi install the solar power on top of the roof, that make it perfect. Some of the customers might need more energy for Air/con, Navigator system, TV, Neo lights and Audio system. More gadgets on EV car will lower the milleage and performance I believed. Also, it is important to have a backup power for EV car too. (Just enough energy for you to go for recharge the batteries during emergency case) Just wondering, if Mitsubishi install the solar power on top of the roof, that make it perfect. Some of the customers might need more energy for Air/con, Navigator system, TV, Neo lights and Audio system. More gadgets on EV car will lower the milleage and performance I believed. Also, it is important to have a backup power for EV car too. (Just enough energy for you to go for recharge the batteries during emergency case)

]]> By: David Mershon http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11159 David Mershon Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:15:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11159 This really bugs the crap out of me. Between the four motors this thing is packing in about 260 horsepower, which is about the same as an Infiniti G35/Nissan Skyline GT 350. At about 3500 pounds it also weighs about the same as the Skyline. Mitsubishi claims the top speed at about 115 miles per hour and based on performance of other electric vehicles with similar stats I have seen, I'm thinking it will do 0-60 in about 8-9 seconds. These aren't very impressive numbers. The nissan hits at least 150 on the top end and can do 0-60 in between 5.5 and 6.5 seconds depending on the model. The reason for this is because the Evo MIEV has only one ratio while the Skyline has 6 (with the manual gearbox). First gear on the Nissan is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of a 4:1 top gear is an overdrive. With direct drive you don't have driveline losses, but those losses are a drop in the bucket when you consider the mechanical advantage you have given up. Even with their broad powerbands, if you put an electric motor on a dyno it will give you a curve that looks a lot like that of a gas engine with peak power arriving near the redline. Conventional auto design may look messier than in wheel motors and it may be less efficient, but if we want fast electric cars, auto manufacturers are going to have to start building them with gearboxes and drivetrains just like the ones we have now. This really bugs the crap out of me. Between the four motors this thing is packing in about 260 horsepower, which is about the same as an Infiniti G35/Nissan Skyline GT 350. At about 3500 pounds it also weighs about the same as the Skyline. Mitsubishi claims the top speed at about 115 miles per hour and based on performance of other electric vehicles with similar stats I have seen, I’m thinking it will do 0-60 in about 8-9 seconds. These aren’t very impressive numbers. The nissan hits at least 150 on the top end and can do 0-60 in between 5.5 and 6.5 seconds depending on the model. The reason for this is because the Evo MIEV has only one ratio while the Skyline has 6 (with the manual gearbox). First gear on the Nissan is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of a 4:1 top gear is an overdrive. With direct drive you don’t have driveline losses, but those losses are a drop in the bucket when you consider the mechanical advantage you have given up. Even with their broad powerbands, if you put an electric motor on a dyno it will give you a curve that looks a lot like that of a gas engine with peak power arriving near the redline. Conventional auto design may look messier than in wheel motors and it may be less efficient, but if we want fast electric cars, auto manufacturers are going to have to start building them with gearboxes and drivetrains just like the ones we have now.

]]> By: hfrshah http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11122 hfrshah Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:00:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11122 europeans are complaining their hybrids look too similar to their IC engined bretheren.. ie the Civic Hybrid and Lexus 400h.. they want their cars to shout "im an enviromentalist!" europeans are complaining their hybrids look too similar to their IC engined bretheren.. ie the Civic Hybrid and Lexus 400h.. they want their cars to shout “im an enviromentalist!”

]]> By: Adan http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11109 Adan Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:58:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11109 The best looking GREEN CAR so far...Miles ahead of the Toyota Prius, which is famous in Tinsletown. Drive this Evo in town, sapa tau its driving on batteries... The best looking GREEN CAR so far…Miles ahead of the Toyota Prius, which is famous in Tinsletown. Drive this Evo in town, sapa tau its driving on batteries…

]]> By: DOG THE WAN http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11086 DOG THE WAN Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:34:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11086 Sorry mistake,.....So guys "save" your money........Not "Some" Sorry mistake,…..So guys “save” your money……..Not “Some”

]]> By: DOG THE WAN http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11085 DOG THE WAN Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:32:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11085 So guys some your money now and get ready to buy only from MITSUBISHI!! CHEERS! 2010, still have 5 years for us to save enough money! I will buy one if Available in Malaysia. POTONG Where are U??? Do something like this, JV WITH MMC again lah! VW also will dead soon. So guys some your money now and get ready to buy only from MITSUBISHI!! CHEERS!

2010, still have 5 years for us to save enough money! I will buy one if Available in Malaysia. POTONG Where are U??? Do something like this, JV WITH MMC again lah! VW also will dead soon.

]]> By: wonderer http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11072 wonderer Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:40:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11072 Woow !!! Mitsubishi still the best.Wonder if Proton R &D could produce something like that ? Hmmmm.... Woow !!! Mitsubishi still the best.Wonder if Proton R &D could produce something like that ? Hmmmm….

]]> By: Aris Tee http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11068 Aris Tee Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:47:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11068 awesome stuff... these things MUST be made into production... best things to happen to mankind and the motoring world... save $, save environment, better handling... wat more u want? awesome stuff… these things MUST be made into production… best things to happen to mankind and the motoring world… save $, save environment, better handling… wat more u want?

]]> By: holy_cow http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11062 holy_cow Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:45:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11062 I imagine it's going to be a few years before they get those motors tough enough to deal with all the abuse of being owned by your average motorist, though. And the performance specs probably aren't too hot yet. But what a prospect. Now all we need is to work in some fuel cell tech so there'll be no need to plug the thing in for pesky charging sessions. Hopefully Mitsu Motors won't go under before they perfect this tech. Speaking of really cool tech, has anyone heard of the Bose suspension system? You can read about it here: http://www.popsci.com/popsci/bown/2004/autotech/article/0,22221,750777,00.html and here: http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/learning/project_sound/suspension_challenge.jsp&ck=0 It's really very, very cool. Imagine having a car that will exhibit no body roll or float when plunged through corners, yet will absorb any and all bumps in your way and keep your ride completely cushy. If Paul's already blogged about this, apologies...but I couldn't find it anywhere, so I thought I'd mention it, even though it's quite old news. I imagine it’s going to be a few years before they get those motors tough enough to deal with all the abuse of being owned by your average motorist, though. And the performance specs probably aren’t too hot yet. But what a prospect. Now all we need is to work in some fuel cell tech so there’ll be no need to plug the thing in for pesky charging sessions.

Hopefully Mitsu Motors won’t go under before they perfect this tech.

Speaking of really cool tech, has anyone heard of the Bose suspension system? You can read about it here:
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/bown/2004/autotech/article/0,22221,750777,00.html
and here:
http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/learning/project_sound/suspension_challenge.jsp&ck=0

It’s really very, very cool. Imagine having a car that will exhibit no body roll or float when plunged through corners, yet will absorb any and all bumps in your way and keep your ride completely cushy.

If Paul’s already blogged about this, apologies…but I couldn’t find it anywhere, so I thought I’d mention it, even though it’s quite old news.

]]> By: stupid rafidah http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11047 stupid rafidah Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:43:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11047 wah then if they can like make ecu to control every tyre individually then i can just lock the front tyre and let the back spin then can drift woh wahseh... wah like that can also make the can FF,FR OR 4WD if can make the ecu like that. Fui yo keng chau chin chin wah then if they can like make ecu to control every tyre individually then i can just lock the front tyre and let the back spin then can drift woh
wahseh…
wah like that can also make the can FF,FR OR 4WD if can make the ecu like that.
Fui yo keng chau chin chin

]]> By: naruto http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11043 naruto Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:32:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11043 sek pao mou ye zou sek pao mou ye zou

]]> By: Paul http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11038 Paul Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:59:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11038 stupid rafidah: that is correct. each tyre has it's own motor. 4 engines for 4 tyres. stupid rafidah: that is correct. each tyre has it’s own motor. 4 engines for 4 tyres.

]]> By: hfrshah http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11033 hfrshah Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:22:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11033 check out this site http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2050824.001 check out this site

http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2050824.001

]]> By: stupid rafidah http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11023 stupid rafidah Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:13:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11023 hah?does that mean each tyre has 4 motors and there isn't like a core engine? im confused hah?does that mean each tyre has 4 motors and there isn’t like a core engine?
im confused

]]> By: DOG THE WAN http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11020 DOG THE WAN Thu, 25 Aug 2005 04:36:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11020 Hei Paul, the bigger advantage of this MiEV are as follows: 1) Free styling, less constraint, No engine and Transmission at the front or rear. We can have more extreme styling and room space. 2) Noise? Will became a history soon. No NVH only wind noise and tyre noise or breaking noise. 3) No need transmission. Apparently transmission had limitation of transfering different torque to each wheels at cornering or speed control. With MiEV, 4 wheels speeds can be controlled by Electronic percisely. Wow! just wondering when you make the cornering, no more Over or under steer problems. Prefectlah! 4) Clean, that I called GREEN CAR without emission. (Li-ion EV need no Hydrogen man) 5) Maintenance Cost should be cheaper that Hybrid model because no complicated equipement only electronic and battery. 6) Longest distance about 250km, just right enough for 2 weeks travalling to work and my weekend staffs. Don't forget the battery life will be extended by the year 2010, maybe 400km. That's will be perfect for me for a month. Just charge once a month or twice, sure no complaint by ME. 7) This technology is also good for Limosin or extend the car long with more wheels on it. cause no more layout problems and torque issues. Just harness and batteries layout. 8) No more tear cause by Petrol price UP...UPP>>>UP. I am free man. 9) No more heat generated by Engine. No exhaust!! No need heat protector... 10) Lighter weight, no insulator for engine noise.......door.....etc 10) If you found More please let me know Okay! Wow! can't wait till 2010, hope it will be ready in this X-mas! Hei Paul, the bigger advantage of this MiEV are as follows:

1) Free styling, less constraint, No engine and Transmission at the front or rear. We can have more extreme styling and room space.
2) Noise? Will became a history soon. No NVH only wind noise and tyre noise or breaking noise.
3) No need transmission. Apparently transmission had limitation of transfering different torque to each wheels at cornering or speed control. With MiEV, 4 wheels speeds can be controlled by Electronic percisely. Wow! just wondering when you make the cornering, no more Over or under steer problems. Prefectlah!
4) Clean, that I called GREEN CAR without emission. (Li-ion EV need no Hydrogen man)
5) Maintenance Cost should be cheaper that Hybrid model because no complicated equipement only electronic and battery.
6) Longest distance about 250km, just right enough for 2 weeks travalling to work and my weekend staffs. Don’t forget the battery life will be extended by the year 2010, maybe 400km. That’s will be perfect for me for a month. Just charge once a month or twice, sure no complaint by ME.
7) This technology is also good for Limosin or extend the car long with more wheels on it. cause no more layout problems and torque issues. Just harness and batteries layout.
8) No more tear cause by Petrol price UP…UPP>>>UP. I am free man.
9) No more heat generated by Engine. No exhaust!! No need heat protector…
10) Lighter weight, no insulator for engine noise…….door…..etc
10) If you found More please let me know Okay!

Wow! can’t wait till 2010, hope it will be ready in this X-mas!

]]> By: Paul http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11013 Paul Thu, 25 Aug 2005 03:15:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11013 The kW and torque is per motor. So multiply that by 4 motors. :P The kW and torque is per motor. So multiply that by 4 motors. :P

]]> By: tai http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11006 tai Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:39:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11006 How do you dyno something like this? I mean is it total output or single motor output? 50kw = 67bhp.. er. Ok. 518NM?? A std e9 has 400nM no... Wow. curiously, will there be no exhaust sound and nearly nil NVH... hehe How do you dyno something like this? I mean is it total output or single motor output?

50kw = 67bhp.. er. Ok. 518NM?? A std e9 has 400nM no… Wow.

curiously, will there be no exhaust sound and nearly nil NVH… hehe

]]> By: KY http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-11005 KY Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:16:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-11005 with this kinda power and this kinda weight., unless they turn it into a hybrid like the prius & insight, it'll never be on production with this kinda power and this kinda weight., unless they turn it into a hybrid like the prius & insight, it’ll never be on production

]]> By: DOG THE WAN http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-10997 DOG THE WAN Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:33:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-10997 More info. about MIEV, it is COLT with MIEV, sorry only in Japanese not English. http://response.jp/issue/2005/0511/article70579_1.html Paul you are quick! I am loving it. More info. about MIEV, it is COLT with MIEV, sorry only in Japanese not English.
http://response.jp/issue/2005/0511/article70579_1.html

Paul you are quick! I am loving it.

]]> By: DOG THE WAN http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-10996 DOG THE WAN Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:30:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-10996 Lancer EVO (MIEV) will be sold in year 2010. Powered by Li-ion battery or Fuel Cell should be good enough. Cheers! I would like to buy one in the future. Lancer EVO (MIEV) will be sold in year 2010. Powered by Li-ion battery or Fuel Cell should be good enough. Cheers! I would like to buy one in the future.

]]> By: cloudz http://paultan.org/2005/08/25/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-miev/#comment-10995 cloudz Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:00:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=360#comment-10995 wad i can say is cooL..if i have the gold there..i'll get one of these in my garage..loV evo evar~~ =P wad i can say is cooL..if i have the gold there..i’ll get one of these in my garage..loV evo evar~~ =P

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