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	<title>Comments on: Forumers post about Perodua Myvi problems</title>
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		<title>By: alip</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-275718</link>
		<dc:creator>alip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nape ade bunyi  bile kete jalan pad akelajuan 20-30 km/j</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nape ade bunyi  bile kete jalan pad akelajuan 20-30 km/j</p>
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		<title>By: shairul myvi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-260705</link>
		<dc:creator>shairul myvi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salam kawan kawan..aku ni pakai myvi gak...kereta myvi ni bagi aku byk sgt masalah nya...dulu aku pakai rosak gear box dan sekarang ni rosak compressor aircond lak..bila minta claim denso tak nak ganti..sakit tul hati aku....aku rasa kereta paling tak bagus dlm malaysia yelah MYVI....bini aku pakai proton walau pun minyak hitam dah kering stedy lagi...myvi pulak baru pakai 1tahun setengah kilometer pun baru 25k..dah mcm mcm rosak meyesal aku beli..klu aku tahu myvi byk problem gerenti aku tak beli..baik aku beli kereta import puas hati..ni myvi dh ler mahal..tapi byk masalah..ini ke kereta yg org bangga bangga kan???fucking too myvi lah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salam kawan kawan..aku ni pakai myvi gak&#8230;kereta myvi ni bagi aku byk sgt masalah nya&#8230;dulu aku pakai rosak gear box dan sekarang ni rosak compressor aircond lak..bila minta claim denso tak nak ganti..sakit tul hati aku&#8230;.aku rasa kereta paling tak bagus dlm malaysia yelah MYVI&#8230;.bini aku pakai proton walau pun minyak hitam dah kering stedy lagi&#8230;myvi pulak baru pakai 1tahun setengah kilometer pun baru 25k..dah mcm mcm rosak meyesal aku beli..klu aku tahu myvi byk problem gerenti aku tak beli..baik aku beli kereta import puas hati..ni myvi dh ler mahal..tapi byk masalah..ini ke kereta yg org bangga bangga kan???fucking too myvi lah</p>
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		<title>By: hamidi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-238631</link>
		<dc:creator>hamidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my brother facing a broblem with his manual 1.3 myvi recently.
 the car coudn&quot;t start - the foreman told him that the key signal was not syincronized with the comp. board. pls advise whether its tru or not and the maintenance cost b&#039;cause the car was not under warenty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my brother facing a broblem with his manual 1.3 myvi recently.<br />
 the car coudn&#8221;t start &#8211; the foreman told him that the key signal was not syincronized with the comp. board. pls advise whether its tru or not and the maintenance cost b&#8217;cause the car was not under warenty.</p>
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		<title>By: ReactiX</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-173449</link>
		<dc:creator>ReactiX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rode a my friend myvi and found out that the seat wasnt feel so good. Its like doesnt support your riding posture. And the rear seat feel awkward, it does not support all your thigh, only around 3/4 of my thigh. Maybe it is shorter or I am tall enough. Or maybe its just me because the Gen2 half bucket seat is way much better comfortable as well as savvy&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rode a my friend myvi and found out that the seat wasnt feel so good. Its like doesnt support your riding posture. And the rear seat feel awkward, it does not support all your thigh, only around 3/4 of my thigh. Maybe it is shorter or I am tall enough. Or maybe its just me because the Gen2 half bucket seat is way much better comfortable as well as savvy&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: car shop boys</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-27493</link>
		<dc:creator>car shop boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry aah, a slight break for the Savvy/Myvi battle aah.
Does anybody has a comment on Myvi 1.0? I got to know that you have to wait 8 mths at least for the 1.3, but the 1.0 can get so much sooner. Is the car ok or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry aah, a slight break for the Savvy/Myvi battle aah.<br />
Does anybody has a comment on Myvi 1.0? I got to know that you have to wait 8 mths at least for the 1.3, but the 1.0 can get so much sooner. Is the car ok or what?</p>
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		<title>By: rodrick</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-27298</link>
		<dc:creator>rodrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my car agent already help me to sealed up the leaking part.. i drive it for couple days.. its leaking again goddamnit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my car agent already help me to sealed up the leaking part.. i drive it for couple days.. its leaking again goddamnit</p>
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		<title>By: rodrick</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-27291</link>
		<dc:creator>rodrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i got a bad and serious problem! anyone have this problem too? my coolent host is leaking badly! anyone know whats happening, please email me and discuss with me. ill be very appreciate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got a bad and serious problem! anyone have this problem too? my coolent host is leaking badly! anyone know whats happening, please email me and discuss with me. ill be very appreciate!</p>
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		<title>By: ProRaceFoggerNOS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-22018</link>
		<dc:creator>ProRaceFoggerNOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FiveElements, I guess someone is angry with you. Those three names (Proton Lembu, Proton Anjing, Proton Kucing) does sound OUT OF THE LOGIC like what My_Fairlady_Z said. If Proton wants to use those names, they have to design the cars based on the names given.

PROTON LEMBU- A limousine with bull&#039;s horns on the bonnet, just like JBL&#039;s limo! (That wrestling guy, you know!) And a full armour plating, as hard as cow&#039;s leather. Bulletproof!

PROTON ANJING- A car with a noisy horn that sounds like a barking dog!

PROTON KUCING- A race-spec car that&#039;s as fast as a cheetah. (Unfortunately, this car is much faster that any cheetah. 350kmh!)

No comment. No idea what to say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FiveElements, I guess someone is angry with you. Those three names (Proton Lembu, Proton Anjing, Proton Kucing) does sound OUT OF THE LOGIC like what My_Fairlady_Z said. If Proton wants to use those names, they have to design the cars based on the names given.</p>
<p>PROTON LEMBU- A limousine with bull&#8217;s horns on the bonnet, just like JBL&#8217;s limo! (That wrestling guy, you know!) And a full armour plating, as hard as cow&#8217;s leather. Bulletproof!</p>
<p>PROTON ANJING- A car with a noisy horn that sounds like a barking dog!</p>
<p>PROTON KUCING- A race-spec car that&#8217;s as fast as a cheetah. (Unfortunately, this car is much faster that any cheetah. 350kmh!)</p>
<p>No comment. No idea what to say!</p>
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		<title>By: My_Fairlady_Z</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-22016</link>
		<dc:creator>My_Fairlady_Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PROTON LEMBU, PROTON ANJING. PROTON KUCING???? 

Ini orang BODOH punya recommendation. Cakap biar pakai otak. Tuhan bagi otak SATU, BUKAN DUA! Orang bodoh guna ONE QUARTER otak dia! Proton takkan guna nama macam tu untuk keto diorang! Out of the logic betul!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PROTON LEMBU, PROTON ANJING. PROTON KUCING???? </p>
<p>Ini orang BODOH punya recommendation. Cakap biar pakai otak. Tuhan bagi otak SATU, BUKAN DUA! Orang bodoh guna ONE QUARTER otak dia! Proton takkan guna nama macam tu untuk keto diorang! Out of the logic betul!</p>
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		<title>By: My_Fairlady_Z</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-22014</link>
		<dc:creator>My_Fairlady_Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job, Johnny Boy. Better give that to people who his work does nothing but KUTUK. Better give that to mitsu_galant_2000. Dia suka kutuk orang. Kalau dia kena kutuk, nak salah siapa? SALAH DIA LAH SAPA LAGI!!! NO CAR IS A PERFECT CAR! Special delivery to mitsu_galant_2000, the anti-Malaysian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job, Johnny Boy. Better give that to people who his work does nothing but KUTUK. Better give that to mitsu_galant_2000. Dia suka kutuk orang. Kalau dia kena kutuk, nak salah siapa? SALAH DIA LAH SAPA LAGI!!! NO CAR IS A PERFECT CAR! Special delivery to mitsu_galant_2000, the anti-Malaysian!</p>
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		<title>By: C-WestR34SkylineM-specNur</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-21959</link>
		<dc:creator>C-WestR34SkylineM-specNur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Paul Tan, what would you feel if people like mitsu_galant_2000 condemn our car companies HABIS-HABISAN? I&#039;m asking you this because he has been doing the same old filthy, DIABOLICAL and EXTREMELY UNCIVILISED comments in your website. Pls reply me via my hotmail. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Paul Tan, what would you feel if people like mitsu_galant_2000 condemn our car companies HABIS-HABISAN? I&#8217;m asking you this because he has been doing the same old filthy, DIABOLICAL and EXTREMELY UNCIVILISED comments in your website. Pls reply me via my hotmail. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: S15_Silvia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-21957</link>
		<dc:creator>S15_Silvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wah... Tuning_Professional, I guess you look very frustrated. I know who is that mitsu_galant_2000. This place is perfect for him to KUTUK Perodua HABIS-HABISAN, until they bankrupt? MAYBE! Because mitsu_galant_2000 is an ANTI-MALAYSIAN! HE HATES MALAYSIA! Perodua, please solve the problem before mitsu_galant_2000 bombard you with MILIIONS of condemns!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wah&#8230; Tuning_Professional, I guess you look very frustrated. I know who is that mitsu_galant_2000. This place is perfect for him to KUTUK Perodua HABIS-HABISAN, until they bankrupt? MAYBE! Because mitsu_galant_2000 is an ANTI-MALAYSIAN! HE HATES MALAYSIA! Perodua, please solve the problem before mitsu_galant_2000 bombard you with MILIIONS of condemns!</p>
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		<title>By: Tuning_Professional</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-21901</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuning_Professional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This place is perfect for anti-Malaysians to kutuk Perodua SAMPAI KE LUBANG CACING. Mitsu_galant_2000&#039;s blissful HEAVEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This place is perfect for anti-Malaysians to kutuk Perodua SAMPAI KE LUBANG CACING. Mitsu_galant_2000&#8217;s blissful HEAVEN!</p>
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		<title>By: Quest</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-13808</link>
		<dc:creator>Quest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people ciritcise people like me, for criticising Proton.  Many don&#039;t realise, only through criticisms, Proton can improve.  Whatever credit it deserves for the last 25 years are negated by ALL the flaws in which we are paying a HECK OF A LOT MONEY FOR.

Come one guys, in a free market (where no heavy taxes are imposed on other car brands) and market left to compete with each other, where would Proton be?

1)  Close down. Bankcrupted and run away with your deposit money

2)  If good enuff, bought by other big car manafacturers

3)  SELL CHEAP CHEAP LA... must be like half or 1/3 price of the same range car of other makes.  ie. real live in UK, Australia and every where else that have Proton, other than Malaysia, then can compete la.

I am a consumer.  I work hard for my money.  I demand quality, quality I&#039;m not getting from Proton because hey, I have no choice, other car makes are price too high, why, so Proton can sell..... Hey you&#039;re paying 62K for a Waja, 62K!!  Any idea what you can get, dollar to dollar, 62K can get you in UK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people ciritcise people like me, for criticising Proton.  Many don&#8217;t realise, only through criticisms, Proton can improve.  Whatever credit it deserves for the last 25 years are negated by ALL the flaws in which we are paying a HECK OF A LOT MONEY FOR.</p>
<p>Come one guys, in a free market (where no heavy taxes are imposed on other car brands) and market left to compete with each other, where would Proton be?</p>
<p>1)  Close down. Bankcrupted and run away with your deposit money</p>
<p>2)  If good enuff, bought by other big car manafacturers</p>
<p>3)  SELL CHEAP CHEAP LA&#8230; must be like half or 1/3 price of the same range car of other makes.  ie. real live in UK, Australia and every where else that have Proton, other than Malaysia, then can compete la.</p>
<p>I am a consumer.  I work hard for my money.  I demand quality, quality I&#8217;m not getting from Proton because hey, I have no choice, other car makes are price too high, why, so Proton can sell&#8230;.. Hey you&#8217;re paying 62K for a Waja, 62K!!  Any idea what you can get, dollar to dollar, 62K can get you in UK?</p>
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		<title>By: dane8t8</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-13612</link>
		<dc:creator>dane8t8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>savvy sold only how many unit? myvi how many unit? for example if myvi sold 1000 unit. savvy only 5 unit not enough people to give comments if savvy reach 1000 unit i think more n more complain will appear. wait n c until the savvy reach the sales like myvi......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>savvy sold only how many unit? myvi how many unit? for example if myvi sold 1000 unit. savvy only 5 unit not enough people to give comments if savvy reach 1000 unit i think more n more complain will appear. wait n c until the savvy reach the sales like myvi&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quest</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-13581</link>
		<dc:creator>Quest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowing that all cars have defects, just how bad and how the manafacturer go about handling it.  With those possible problems listed on top on the myvvi, I&#039;m sure many buyers will beware.....

However, there&#039;s a difference between &quot;possible&quot; problems and &quot;probable&quot; problems.  While Perodua (probably with heavy arm tactics by Toyota to make sure Perodua improves) acknowledge and addresses the problems, I know the &quot;standard&quot; answer Proton would give, &quot;Leh.... ini standard la!!!&quot; Imagine they say &quot;Standard la&quot; like it&#039;s actually a feature.

That&#039;s the diff.  With Proton, the standard operative word here is &quot;Probable&quot;.

I&#039;ll take my bet with Myvi..... SIGH... unfortunately I&#039;m stuck with a Proton with 2 years repayment to go.... If only Myvi came 2 years earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing that all cars have defects, just how bad and how the manafacturer go about handling it.  With those possible problems listed on top on the myvvi, I&#8217;m sure many buyers will beware&#8230;..</p>
<p>However, there&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;possible&#8221; problems and &#8220;probable&#8221; problems.  While Perodua (probably with heavy arm tactics by Toyota to make sure Perodua improves) acknowledge and addresses the problems, I know the &#8220;standard&#8221; answer Proton would give, &#8220;Leh&#8230;. ini standard la!!!&#8221; Imagine they say &#8220;Standard la&#8221; like it&#8217;s actually a feature.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the diff.  With Proton, the standard operative word here is &#8220;Probable&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take my bet with Myvi&#8230;.. SIGH&#8230; unfortunately I&#8217;m stuck with a Proton with 2 years repayment to go&#8230;. If only Myvi came 2 years earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-13049</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 10:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear FiveElements,
i totally disagree with your suggestion re proton lembu, proton anjing, proton kucing; totally inconsistent! more suited perodua, remember perodua kancil, perodua rusa, perodua kenari, perodua kelisa? so it shoul be rephrased peodua lembu, perodua anjing, perodua kucing; nice isnt it? consistent and nice!

;-)

;-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear FiveElements,<br />
i totally disagree with your suggestion re proton lembu, proton anjing, proton kucing; totally inconsistent! more suited perodua, remember perodua kancil, perodua rusa, perodua kenari, perodua kelisa? so it shoul be rephrased peodua lembu, perodua anjing, perodua kucing; nice isnt it? consistent and nice!</p>
<p> <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>;-P</p>
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		<title>By: eRis-Aeir4s</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12882</link>
		<dc:creator>eRis-Aeir4s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes , well I drove a Getz before. My dad&#039;s friend&#039;s daughter&#039;s car. Coz he took my dad&#039;s Accord as a Wedding Escort and thus let my dad use his daughter&#039;s Getz , It was a 1.3L Auto.

It felt .... Normal , Heck , It&#039;s interior was nice but if given a choice , I&#039;d go for the Honda Jazz anytime. Power was adequate and response was good enough , Interior looks kinda crampy though , like the Myvi (Well , I was fitting a family of 5 into it so I can&#039;t really comment fairly here.)

But I hate Getz , well it&#039;s nothing to do about the car but.....

The day my dad got his Accord back , he was surprised to find the side mirror smashed away. No mirror at the side! The reason : A motorcyclist crashed into it , destroying the mirror instantly and injuring himself in the process of doing that. Cost my dad 1k to replace that mirror , which he later got back from his friend. Never knew that Honda mirrors are so expensive! (It was a Mirror from a 2.4i-VTEC with Signal lights on it.)

Damned Getz. (or just my luck that the Accord was my favorite..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes , well I drove a Getz before. My dad&#8217;s friend&#8217;s daughter&#8217;s car. Coz he took my dad&#8217;s Accord as a Wedding Escort and thus let my dad use his daughter&#8217;s Getz , It was a 1.3L Auto.</p>
<p>It felt &#8230;. Normal , Heck , It&#8217;s interior was nice but if given a choice , I&#8217;d go for the Honda Jazz anytime. Power was adequate and response was good enough , Interior looks kinda crampy though , like the Myvi (Well , I was fitting a family of 5 into it so I can&#8217;t really comment fairly here.)</p>
<p>But I hate Getz , well it&#8217;s nothing to do about the car but&#8230;..</p>
<p>The day my dad got his Accord back , he was surprised to find the side mirror smashed away. No mirror at the side! The reason : A motorcyclist crashed into it , destroying the mirror instantly and injuring himself in the process of doing that. Cost my dad 1k to replace that mirror , which he later got back from his friend. Never knew that Honda mirrors are so expensive! (It was a Mirror from a 2.4i-VTEC with Signal lights on it.)</p>
<p>Damned Getz. (or just my luck that the Accord was my favorite..)</p>
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		<title>By: aksMS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12872</link>
		<dc:creator>aksMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 09:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, eRis-Aeir4s. I&#039;m tryin to gather more info on these 2 models. My dad is on the look out to buy a car for my sis. We talked about Savvy and Myvi because Getz is a bit too expensive for 1.3 despite the European feels and quality (really?). Anymore comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, eRis-Aeir4s. I&#8217;m tryin to gather more info on these 2 models. My dad is on the look out to buy a car for my sis. We talked about Savvy and Myvi because Getz is a bit too expensive for 1.3 despite the European feels and quality (really?). Anymore comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Boy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12861</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DUA-DUA PUN BAGUS, MANA-MANA MAU BELI, SUKAHATI, TAKMAU BELI DIAM.......TALK TALK, AT LAST NAIK BASIKAL.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DUA-DUA PUN BAGUS, MANA-MANA MAU BELI, SUKAHATI, TAKMAU BELI DIAM&#8230;&#8230;.TALK TALK, AT LAST NAIK BASIKAL&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FiveElements</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12859</link>
		<dc:creator>FiveElements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SORRY I know this is a little off topic....

But i seriously wonder who named the proton cars. Its just so stupid they name it.

PROTON SAVVY...What the hack.....well the next model would be PROTON LEMBU, PROTON ANJING. PROTON KUCING????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SORRY I know this is a little off topic&#8230;.</p>
<p>But i seriously wonder who named the proton cars. Its just so stupid they name it.</p>
<p>PROTON SAVVY&#8230;What the hack&#8230;..well the next model would be PROTON LEMBU, PROTON ANJING. PROTON KUCING????</p>
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		<title>By: eRis-Aeir4s</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12807</link>
		<dc:creator>eRis-Aeir4s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 03:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that you remind me , It actually seems like what you said &#039;Racial comment&#039;.

Oh well... nothing I can do &#039;bout that.

aksMS , Yes I did test both of them. Absolutely loved the Savvy&#039;s handling and Jet-imitation sounds, speakers are so-so, but the Gears were a bit troublesome at first, not that I get to drive it for a long period of time though.

Myvi? Soft car but no soft body. Handling is soft and steady, engine is tuned to be not as powerful as the Avanza , more spacious interior.(AFAIK)

So why did I pick Myvi ? Simple , it&#039;s because my mum can&#039;t drive a Manual , which my dad figured the car would be driven by her sometimes. Therefore , the Automatic version of Myvi is my choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that you remind me , It actually seems like what you said &#8216;Racial comment&#8217;.</p>
<p>Oh well&#8230; nothing I can do &#8217;bout that.</p>
<p>aksMS , Yes I did test both of them. Absolutely loved the Savvy&#8217;s handling and Jet-imitation sounds, speakers are so-so, but the Gears were a bit troublesome at first, not that I get to drive it for a long period of time though.</p>
<p>Myvi? Soft car but no soft body. Handling is soft and steady, engine is tuned to be not as powerful as the Avanza , more spacious interior.(AFAIK)</p>
<p>So why did I pick Myvi ? Simple , it&#8217;s because my mum can&#8217;t drive a Manual , which my dad figured the car would be driven by her sometimes. Therefore , the Automatic version of Myvi is my choice.</p>
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		<title>By: neurra</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12779</link>
		<dc:creator>neurra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 21:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œstupid kind make a stupid thing outâ€
i think that&#039;s a racial slur</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œstupid kind make a stupid thing outâ€<br />
i think that&#8217;s a racial slur</p>
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		<title>By: aksMS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12770</link>
		<dc:creator>aksMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any of u guys here has tested or drove both Savvy and Myvi? Feedbacks and comments will be much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any of u guys here has tested or drove both Savvy and Myvi? Feedbacks and comments will be much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: eRis-Aeir4s</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12768</link>
		<dc:creator>eRis-Aeir4s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;DAN said,

September 7, 2005 @ 12:59 am

neurra said,
September 6, 2005 @ 6:27 pm .

tiorra. u talking like u Owen Malaysia by your self. no wonder proton not improve will in 20 years course have people like u only know how to eat n shit when need it. we support Malaysia car industry not only now. we r paying a tax to government to improve n back to us to get better living in owe country.
we not encouraging them to sale a shit to us, so do u 1 buy a shit.

if u 1 to support your own kind ! see your self in the mirror first n grow up dont b spoon feeding. dont used other people resources to do a thing then u proud of is a national car!. stupid kind make a stupid thing out. &quot;

I think I sorta get what you&#039;re saying , I&#039;ll interpret AFAIK.

Proton which currenly produces Shi*ty models are the result of us Malaysians getting spoon-fed by Shi* from Proton (as in low-quality stuff , lousy rebadging and build quality etc.) We , as Malaysians , should give them appropriate feedback as to improve Proton. We should also stop rebadging and name them as our national car , and we should only be proud if the National car is really a national product. And we are encouraging competiton as to improve Proton so that they don&#039;t sell shi* to us. &quot;stupid kind make a stupid thing out&quot; - Don&#039;t really get this.

I tried to interpret so umm, Correct me if I&#039;m wrong.

Good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;DAN said,</p>
<p>September 7, 2005 @ 12:59 am</p>
<p>neurra said,<br />
September 6, 2005 @ 6:27 pm .</p>
<p>tiorra. u talking like u Owen Malaysia by your self. no wonder proton not improve will in 20 years course have people like u only know how to eat n shit when need it. we support Malaysia car industry not only now. we r paying a tax to government to improve n back to us to get better living in owe country.<br />
we not encouraging them to sale a shit to us, so do u 1 buy a shit.</p>
<p>if u 1 to support your own kind ! see your self in the mirror first n grow up dont b spoon feeding. dont used other people resources to do a thing then u proud of is a national car!. stupid kind make a stupid thing out. &#8221;</p>
<p>I think I sorta get what you&#8217;re saying , I&#8217;ll interpret AFAIK.</p>
<p>Proton which currenly produces Shi*ty models are the result of us Malaysians getting spoon-fed by Shi* from Proton (as in low-quality stuff , lousy rebadging and build quality etc.) We , as Malaysians , should give them appropriate feedback as to improve Proton. We should also stop rebadging and name them as our national car , and we should only be proud if the National car is really a national product. And we are encouraging competiton as to improve Proton so that they don&#8217;t sell shi* to us. &#8220;stupid kind make a stupid thing out&#8221; &#8211; Don&#8217;t really get this.</p>
<p>I tried to interpret so umm, Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>Good day.</p>
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		<title>By: eRis-Aeir4s</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12767</link>
		<dc:creator>eRis-Aeir4s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although a bit rough , I agree on what people have to say.

Proton do not deserve credit after all they&#039;ve done , Rebadging the Wira and Saga&#039;s was a long time ago , but I feel Proton should improve on rebadging rather than rolling out its own models , because somehow I feel rebadging is not easy work too , and you need to have good QC , which Proton lacks in , to rebadge good quality cars.

Proton rushed past the phase too quickly , and thus results in low-quality rebadgings. I&#039;d actually like to see a car not w/o defects , but less defects as the years pass , sadly this is nto the case. Look at the Modern Wira&#039;s being sold now. The facelift is rather impressive , and the coolness factor is definitely there, but it lacks in the reliability department and as far as cars are concerned , reliability is a serious issue.

I was actually hoping for a rebadged Lancer or other Jap models , although royalty must be paid , I feel that it is worth it as this can improve experience of the workers and give ideas on developing a true national car. Well Perodua is still doing rebadging.. being the Kenari , Kancil and Kelisa all rebadged models. But the difference between the Myvi is that it is not a rebadged model , as I have posted before , the Myvi is the result of a collaboration of engineers from Perodua , Daihatsu and Toyota which the Myvi was rumored to be based off a Perodua concept car. So Myvi is not a rebadge car , I hope this can solve all the arguement about Savvy being an Original car and Myvi a mere rebadge. However , as like all cars , the Myvi also will have problems , so what happens when a Myvi has a problem? - Bashing occurs. I hope this post can clear things up that no car is perfect , as with the Savvy and Myvi and all sorts of cars. The main question that should be debated as I said before should be &#039;Why Myvi over Savvy? or Why Savvy over Myvi?&#039; Which a lot of people can&#039;t seem to give the final answer for it and thus bashing.

I hope people can think it over and give their reasons for their choice , my dad told me that as long as the money is ours , the choice is ours to make , and we should respect others choices and encourage/help them in their course of handling their cars , after all , this blog is supposed to be about cars right?

to neurra : The CLS is not considered SUPER-LUXURY in the States , It may be like what the E-Class is in our country , where the CLS in our country is regarded as SUPER-LUXURY and sold as such. Now ,  I don&#039;t really care why are you targeting me , Is it because I am biased in my opinions? One can tell that as a Malaysian , our fuel is considered cheap due to subsidy but car prices are definitely not. What if later they subsidy is totally removed? (Which it will eventually.) Then our country would have to abolish to extremely high taxes on imported cars to allow middle-classed people like me to actually own a better car than a Proton or Perodua. 

For ex : The British sold a Honda Jazz at 60k , where in Malaysia a Jazz (Same variant.) is sold for 100k+ (I forgot the exact values , but I was targetting one before I settled for the Myvi.) After the subsidies end , where does the extra 40k goes? The G. And where did it came from , Our wallets! Imagine paying an extra 40k for a car of a same model. Is it fair? Although if the taxes are reduced after the Fuel subsidy ended it would be another scenario .

That is all, I hope people who don&#039;t agree with me can post their ideas as a Malaysian , not as a Savvy/Myvi owner. Because I was arguing about the protection Proton gets all the time , and was never in the Battle between Savvy/Myvi. But I gave my opinions about those two prior to this post.

Good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although a bit rough , I agree on what people have to say.</p>
<p>Proton do not deserve credit after all they&#8217;ve done , Rebadging the Wira and Saga&#8217;s was a long time ago , but I feel Proton should improve on rebadging rather than rolling out its own models , because somehow I feel rebadging is not easy work too , and you need to have good QC , which Proton lacks in , to rebadge good quality cars.</p>
<p>Proton rushed past the phase too quickly , and thus results in low-quality rebadgings. I&#8217;d actually like to see a car not w/o defects , but less defects as the years pass , sadly this is nto the case. Look at the Modern Wira&#8217;s being sold now. The facelift is rather impressive , and the coolness factor is definitely there, but it lacks in the reliability department and as far as cars are concerned , reliability is a serious issue.</p>
<p>I was actually hoping for a rebadged Lancer or other Jap models , although royalty must be paid , I feel that it is worth it as this can improve experience of the workers and give ideas on developing a true national car. Well Perodua is still doing rebadging.. being the Kenari , Kancil and Kelisa all rebadged models. But the difference between the Myvi is that it is not a rebadged model , as I have posted before , the Myvi is the result of a collaboration of engineers from Perodua , Daihatsu and Toyota which the Myvi was rumored to be based off a Perodua concept car. So Myvi is not a rebadge car , I hope this can solve all the arguement about Savvy being an Original car and Myvi a mere rebadge. However , as like all cars , the Myvi also will have problems , so what happens when a Myvi has a problem? &#8211; Bashing occurs. I hope this post can clear things up that no car is perfect , as with the Savvy and Myvi and all sorts of cars. The main question that should be debated as I said before should be &#8216;Why Myvi over Savvy? or Why Savvy over Myvi?&#8217; Which a lot of people can&#8217;t seem to give the final answer for it and thus bashing.</p>
<p>I hope people can think it over and give their reasons for their choice , my dad told me that as long as the money is ours , the choice is ours to make , and we should respect others choices and encourage/help them in their course of handling their cars , after all , this blog is supposed to be about cars right?</p>
<p>to neurra : The CLS is not considered SUPER-LUXURY in the States , It may be like what the E-Class is in our country , where the CLS in our country is regarded as SUPER-LUXURY and sold as such. Now ,  I don&#8217;t really care why are you targeting me , Is it because I am biased in my opinions? One can tell that as a Malaysian , our fuel is considered cheap due to subsidy but car prices are definitely not. What if later they subsidy is totally removed? (Which it will eventually.) Then our country would have to abolish to extremely high taxes on imported cars to allow middle-classed people like me to actually own a better car than a Proton or Perodua. </p>
<p>For ex : The British sold a Honda Jazz at 60k , where in Malaysia a Jazz (Same variant.) is sold for 100k+ (I forgot the exact values , but I was targetting one before I settled for the Myvi.) After the subsidies end , where does the extra 40k goes? The G. And where did it came from , Our wallets! Imagine paying an extra 40k for a car of a same model. Is it fair? Although if the taxes are reduced after the Fuel subsidy ended it would be another scenario .</p>
<p>That is all, I hope people who don&#8217;t agree with me can post their ideas as a Malaysian , not as a Savvy/Myvi owner. Because I was arguing about the protection Proton gets all the time , and was never in the Battle between Savvy/Myvi. But I gave my opinions about those two prior to this post.</p>
<p>Good day.</p>
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		<title>By: neurra</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12765</link>
		<dc:creator>neurra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoL.. i&#039;m not quite clear wat u&#039;re trying to say DAN.. i&#039;m driving a proton.. and i don&#039;t think of buying luxury cars yet coz i have no money yet.. i just get wat i can afford.. hope u get that clear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoL.. i&#8217;m not quite clear wat u&#8217;re trying to say DAN.. i&#8217;m driving a proton.. and i don&#8217;t think of buying luxury cars yet coz i have no money yet.. i just get wat i can afford.. hope u get that clear</p>
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		<title>By: DAN</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12764</link>
		<dc:creator>DAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 16:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>neurra said,
September 6, 2005 @ 6:27 pm .

tiorra.  u talking like u Owen Malaysia by your self. no wonder proton not improve will in 20 years course have people like u only know how to eat n shit when need it. we support Malaysia car industry not only now. we r paying a tax to government to improve n back to us to get better living in owe country.
we not encouraging them to sale a shit to us, so do u 1 buy a shit.

if u 1 to support your own kind ! see your self in the mirror first n grow up dont b spoon feeding. dont used other people resources to do a thing then u proud of is a national car!. stupid kind make a stupid thing out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neurra said,<br />
September 6, 2005 @ 6:27 pm .</p>
<p>tiorra.  u talking like u Owen Malaysia by your self. no wonder proton not improve will in 20 years course have people like u only know how to eat n shit when need it. we support Malaysia car industry not only now. we r paying a tax to government to improve n back to us to get better living in owe country.<br />
we not encouraging them to sale a shit to us, so do u 1 buy a shit.</p>
<p>if u 1 to support your own kind ! see your self in the mirror first n grow up dont b spoon feeding. dont used other people resources to do a thing then u proud of is a national car!. stupid kind make a stupid thing out.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12741</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t you guys discuss properly? Haih.</description>
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		<title>By: gegaoff</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/01/forumers-post-about-perodua-myvi-problems/#comment-12740</link>
		<dc:creator>gegaoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to neurra, the FUCKER

[so donâ€™t target a Merc CLS, oh humble middle-classed patron.. ]

forker, becareful your damm sucker words. i don&#039;t care u guys fighting for myVI or SAVVY, plz do not use this kind of &#039;two meaning&#039;s words to others. use your brain and thinK: are u a Malaysian? if yes, shut your forking mouth up. concerntrate the topics. u forker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to neurra, the FUCKER</p>
<p>[so donâ€™t target a Merc CLS, oh humble middle-classed patron.. ]</p>
<p>forker, becareful your damm sucker words. i don&#8217;t care u guys fighting for myVI or SAVVY, plz do not use this kind of &#8216;two meaning&#8217;s words to others. use your brain and thinK: are u a Malaysian? if yes, shut your forking mouth up. concerntrate the topics. u forker.</p>
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