Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of people unaware of the massive and significant development taking place to further improve safety for ALL automobile users.

HID lights is just one of the safety benefits that is starting to filter down from initial luxury cars (BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Lexus etc) to more common everyday cars e.g. even a simple Mazda 3 – which is in the same category as Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Nissan Sentra class, now comes standard with it!

When safety belts were first introduced many years ago – there was a lot of similar complains, difficult to use, inconvenience, waste of time, cost more money, not necessary etc. Now we seldom ever hear anyone say that the introduction of safety belt was a waste of time.

Same for HID lights – it’s new, and with anything new those who don’t have it or cannot afford it will like to condemn while those who have benefited from it will tell you the difference is literally day and night!

Having had the fortunate pleasure to own a Honda Accord Euro overseas (and REALLY unfortunate that it is unavailable here in Malaysia except for the UGLY American BIG BODY version with low powered 2.0 or 2.4 litre engine!) which has self levelling HID as standard equipment besides 5 speed tip-tronic auto box, all sorts of safety features ABS, EBD, Traction control and a brilliant 2.4 litre engine that puts out 142KW (~190HP) and useable torque down low and surprisingly good fuel economy as well! The HID lights on the Accord Euro were brilliant!

I can say that HID lights when CORRECTLY installed are just fantastic – it shows up so much more of the road ahead WITHOUT blinding the other road user. The light BEAM/PATTERN has an accurate and well define cut-off point, which is significantly better than standard halogen lights – which I think most people are not aware off.

HID light design not ONLY improve visibility BUT also minimise headlight glare and nuisance light scattered that standard halogen headlamps can be!

Aftermarket HID systems when correctly installed poses no safety or nuisance to other road users – only the unfortunate Ah Bengs, Mat Alis etc that feel that they must have the BLUEST BRIGHTEST INCORRECTLY align head lights that poses an issue to other road uses – be it HID lights or other illegally installed 100/110Watt (standard legal is 55/65 Watts) lights. As mentioned by other comments as well a lot of "Kopi-O" licence drivers’ drives with High Beam ON all the time and blind everyone else, SUVs, MPVs, lorries and busses are much higher of the road so, standard lights when they are behind you can also be a nuisance! I rather have a properly installed/OEM HID light behind me than one of those vehicles!

It wont be long from now that more cars will come standard with HID lights as volume rises, prices comes down – eventually HID will be mandatory requirement rather than illegal.

JPJ (and even of numerous Politicians) as usual comes out with a knee jerk reaction will ban it and come up with a bunch of BS red tapes to get it approved – everybody want to “cari makan” as far as most of us is concern!

Well for ALL – properly design and installed HID lights are the future and are here to stay – better get use to it like it or not! Once more people have the chance to experience the eye opening detail afforded by HID lights they will never turn back!

What matters most to us is to look cool in HID fitted cars..Still a long way to go to achieve develeloped country status…

http://www.brightheadlights-hid.com/forum/topic.a…

The problem i have with the 7000k and 8000k unit is that it is not as bright as the 4100k unit and it is not really white too. It's somewhat blue-ish… And the fact that you cannot see in the rain also pisses me off…….. The other thing about these lights is that since they are not as bright you'll have to adjust it so the beams are high enough for you to see properly at night which causes a lot of glare to other drivers.

I just fitted my 4100k unit yesterday. Not as good looking but definitely more functional.

1. I'm using Perodua MyVi, can I install HID on my car?

2. 6000K crystal white is bright enough?

3. do i need approval from JPJ or Traffic (Police Department) ?

thanks in advance!

1. HID is NOT 2 times as bright, but it is 3 times the luminance of normal halogen lights.

2. Lifespan on average whether imitation or of the better brands are at least 2000 -3000 hours (compared to halogen's avg lifespan of 400 hours)

3. HID is a more effective in terms of energy saving and also, provides lower operating temperature as opposed to halogens.

Now, luminance has nothing to do with 'glare'. Is JPJ making a claim that the 'SUN' is glaring? And we should BAN the sun because it will or may, cause accidents on the roads? OF COURSE IT IS GLARING!? ONLY IF YOU STARE AT IT!? OR WORSE, THE SUN IS POINTED RIGHT IN YOUR FACE!

For obvious reasons, and of course, in a country driven by… (coughs) festive seasons *rewards, it will be much easier to just say… ILLEGAL for all HIDs'. Looks like there will be some 'ops' for this coming Hari Raya. I guess, JPJ and the local authorities must have discovered some new information or technology that other manufacturers and safety enforces around the world could not.

Congratulations to Malaysia! We will be the first country to have HIDs officially banned! Honestly, I am truly amazed at HOW MALAYSIA MADE THE TRANSITION FROM OIL POWERED LAMPS TO HALOGEN LAMPS IN THE FIRST PLACE!

So now, except in Malaysia, here's what I predict will happen elsewhere in the world. 10 YEARS AGO, if you buy a car, it is alright if it doens't come with ABS or AirBags. Only those luxury models or super expensive marques come fitted with it. TODAY, even PROTON comes with ABS and AirBags as standard equipement (I wonder why they did not ban that!?). TODAY, HIDs are fitted on top specced models and the more expensive cars as a safety feature. TEN YEARS later, it will all be made as factory equipped ALL OVER THE WORLD. I guess PROTON if ever, were to fit them in, it would be in their EXPORT models because MALAYSIA IS ONLY SUPPORTIVE OF HALOGENS!

I truly believe that JPJ has to think before making anymore claims that will make our Country look like it belongs to the third wolrd. I am in favour of enforcing proper installation and applications of HID (as well as Halogens and all other modifications such as tinting or transplants). BUT PLEASE DON"T BE 'TIDAK APA' and approve of this. This is not about looking cool, or driving fast in the dark. I hope HID users read this and claim some responsibility. Get your lights realligned.

I am still goin to purchase my set of HIDs this week.

agree with this jpj move !!!

ithat day a estima almost let me cannot see the road due to super bright HID

Well done… Although there's still a lot of tolls to be paid, but still, at least on the top of things, JPJ will not be hunting down drivers for the smallest errors.

So, in the end, it should end well.

- HID lighting system is OK to use, PROVIDED the headlamps are aligned and adjusted properly so that it doesn't blind the on-coming road users from the glare.

- not all headlamps are designed for HID bulbs, especially when the OEM headlamps are designed to be used on Halogen bulbs due to the design of the reflectors.

- OEM HID systems are OK to use as the headlamp manufacturers have spent $$$$ on R&D on the headlamp to be used on a HID system.

The inventor for HID doesn't spend so much time to invent something similiar to halogen, it is a much improve lighting not only in visibility but glare as well. As we can see from the blog pic at the top page. HID is more concentrated into a beam which doesn't generate glaring effects like the halogen notice the car with halogen. so in such a simple pics can tell it all but the govt. instead choose the easier way out, just ban. So is this for the safety or extra income in the procedures and waste more of the country funds.

I'm very displeased to have such news in the country newspaper for all the foreigner to laugh at us. No wonder Wawasan 2020 is going to be just a slogan. Well keep it up and we should go back and do farming. Another example of the tidak apa attitude. Sad to even say Malaysians lke us too is influence by news such as this can't we find out more facts on things before agreeing with the govt. no wonder we have been taken for a ride in everything thank you to true Malaysians spirit. Mesti boleh that is the govt slogan apa pun boleh kerana rakyat tidak apa attitude.. Malaysia Boleh!

Anonymous said,

September 10, 2005 @ 6:03 pm

Its not just a matter have having the ‘corrent’ adjustment for the HID bulbs. Proper HID kits are premade for specific models of automobiles, as they come with more than just a ballast, bulbs and the transformer. In fact, there would be a new reflector or a reflector subset in order to ‘throw’ the light properly. Most of the HID kits available in Malaysia are koreans generic kits with no concern for this, and as such, even if you point the bulbs/reflector lower it’ll still throw the light indescriminately.

Next time you pass a Beemer or a Toyota with HID bulbs notice that the light is actually ‘cut-off’ at the top-right in order to not blind on the opposite side of the road.

not all of the headlamps are designed for HID bulb…the angle reflectors are not designed for HID bulbs. If you compare HID bulb with a halogen bulb (let's say H4), the length of the bulb is different…HID bulbs are longer, thus the distance of the light source will be different. Thus, when i install it on a headlamp designed for H4 bulbs, the angle will run and some reflectors, not matter how you adjust it, the light will still scattered and couldn't focus properly. This is why some cars using HID is blinding on-coming cars.

anyway, this Ops HID by JPJ will be another hangat2 tahi ayam case…wanna bet??

remember that Ops Tinting? all talk, no enforcement.

correct me if im wrong.