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	<title>Comments on: SEAT in hot soup?</title>
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		<title>By: rafreez</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15499</link>
		<dc:creator>rafreez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 12:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aksMS said, 
September 27, 2005 @ 9:37 pm  
 
rafreez: do you know that mitsubishi give townbox (juara) for free to POTONG? no royalties paid, mah!  
 
...hahaha...if given to me for free, I&#039;ll loose the tyre n put it at the play ground for kids to play...just want to correct you not townbox more likely a toybox...If I drove that, I&#039;ll be the joke among my friend. </description>
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<p>September 27, 2005 @ 9:37 pm </p>
<p>rafreez: do you know that mitsubishi give townbox (juara) for free to POTONG? no royalties paid, mah! </p>
<p>&#8230;hahaha&#8230;if given to me for free, I&#039;ll loose the tyre n put it at the play ground for kids to play&#8230;just want to correct you not townbox more likely a toybox&#8230;If I drove that, I&#039;ll be the joke among my friend. </p>
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		<title>By: Shai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15460</link>
		<dc:creator>Shai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No royalties paid to mitsu, then why on earth its priced more than kenari. Perhaps if proton sell it with idea like what kangoo did, for business, with cheaper price, then it can attract people. But cannot help if the look itself is such a turn off. I heard its better than kenari. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No royalties paid to mitsu, then why on earth its priced more than kenari. Perhaps if proton sell it with idea like what kangoo did, for business, with cheaper price, then it can attract people. But cannot help if the look itself is such a turn off. I heard its better than kenari. </p>
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		<title>By: aksMS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15447</link>
		<dc:creator>aksMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rafreez: do you know that mitsubishi give townbox (juara) for free to POTONG? no royalties paid, mah! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rafreez: do you know that mitsubishi give townbox (juara) for free to POTONG? no royalties paid, mah! </p>
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		<title>By: SEE FU</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15424</link>
		<dc:creator>SEE FU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEAT!!......WHAT the hell?? 
F***king ulgy and worst car ever seen.........TAR PAU lah!! 
 
YAU MO KAU .....CHOU!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEAT!!&#8230;&#8230;WHAT the hell??</p>
<p>F***king ulgy and worst car ever seen&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;TAR PAU lah!!</p>
<p>YAU MO KAU &#8230;..CHOU!! </p>
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		<title>By: scum69</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15378</link>
		<dc:creator>scum69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 04:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha...funny how every topic in this site will have plotong compared and bashed... har har...funnnnyy..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha&#8230;funny how every topic in this site will have plotong compared and bashed&#8230; har har&#8230;funnnnyy&#8230;.. </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15365</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 00:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like the term &#039;mickey mouse manufacturer&#039; :D </description>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15363</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.. What If Proton Cut All The Cars About 50%...Fuiyoo... No Need To Care About European Or Japanese Bad Ass Car Maker Anymore... Huh.. What Ever... Proton Not Gonna Make It Into Reality, Even A Millions Words Has Been Throw... Shut The Hell Up Proton!!! If You Don&#039;t Change It By Now!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh.. What If Proton Cut All The Cars About 50%&#8230;Fuiyoo&#8230; No Need To Care About European Or Japanese Bad Ass Car Maker Anymore&#8230; Huh.. What Ever&#8230; Proton Not Gonna Make It Into Reality, Even A Millions Words Has Been Throw&#8230; Shut The Hell Up Proton!!! If You Don&#039;t Change It By Now!!! </p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15361</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that Proton getting involved with Volks is a good thing which can only be benificial to Proton. I would be thankful that its Volks that are willing putting this offer on the table instead of some Mickey Mouse manufacturer from China. 
 
Digressing. Volks owns Audi (which owns Lamborghini), Bentley Motors and Bugatti, among others. So just imagine the sort of techology and R&amp;D that is to be had! 
 
The reason why Volks is selling Seat is because the latter has become &quot;unprofitable&quot;. In the event if Proton does become &#039;unprofitable&#039; who else does Proton have to blame but themselves?  
 
Its like you growing a fruit tree. You cut off the branches that aren&#039;t producing any fruit and divert all your resources to the ones that are instead of wasting them on the dead branch. 
 
At the end of the day, to me Proton has no choice but to merge because i&#039;m sure as hell that Proton can&#039;t make it on their own. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that Proton getting involved with Volks is a good thing which can only be benificial to Proton. I would be thankful that its Volks that are willing putting this offer on the table instead of some Mickey Mouse manufacturer from China.</p>
<p>Digressing. Volks owns Audi (which owns Lamborghini), Bentley Motors and Bugatti, among others. So just imagine the sort of techology and R&amp;D that is to be had!</p>
<p>The reason why Volks is selling Seat is because the latter has become &quot;unprofitable&quot;. In the event if Proton does become &#039;unprofitable&#039; who else does Proton have to blame but themselves? </p>
<p>Its like you growing a fruit tree. You cut off the branches that aren&#039;t producing any fruit and divert all your resources to the ones that are instead of wasting them on the dead branch.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, to me Proton has no choice but to merge because i&#039;m sure as hell that Proton can&#039;t make it on their own. </p>
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		<title>By: asean auto</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15354</link>
		<dc:creator>asean auto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget Proton!!!! 
 
Porsche is buying a 20 per cent stake in Volkswagen in a move designed to safeguard Europe&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s largest car manufacturer against a hostile takeover.  
 
Wonder what the repercussions are towards VW plans in Malaysia 
 
Proton, VW and Porsche ..............What a mess? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget Proton!!!!</p>
<p>Porsche is buying a 20 per cent stake in Volkswagen in a move designed to safeguard Europe&acirc;&euro;&trade;s largest car manufacturer against a hostile takeover. </p>
<p>Wonder what the repercussions are towards VW plans in Malaysia</p>
<p>Proton, VW and Porsche &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..What a mess? </p>
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		<title>By: api-chai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15344</link>
		<dc:creator>api-chai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eRis-Aeir4s: wahh.......... good suggestion ler........ imagine Le &#039;Goshn&#039; Cost-Cutter in proton....................... fuiyuh !!! all hell break lose !!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eRis-Aeir4s: wahh&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. good suggestion ler&#8230;&#8230;.. imagine Le &#039;Goshn&#039; Cost-Cutter in proton&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. fuiyuh !!! all hell break lose !!! </p>
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		<title>By: ex-mivec</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15338</link>
		<dc:creator>ex-mivec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wala neyy.... superb car. i love seat! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wala neyy&#8230;. superb car. i love seat! </p>
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		<title>By: stupid rafidah</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15334</link>
		<dc:creator>stupid rafidah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah if proton + volks 
and proton ends up like seat 
good anyway rite,then no more proton  
and that means cheaper japanese import models 
woo hoo...... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah if proton + volks</p>
<p>and proton ends up like seat</p>
<p>good anyway rite,then no more proton </p>
<p>and that means cheaper japanese import models</p>
<p>woo hoo&#8230;&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: abu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15332</link>
		<dc:creator>abu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eRis-Aeir4s said, 
September 26, 2005 @ 1:36 pm  
 
I&#226;&#8364;&#8482;m starting to think maybe Renault will be interested in Proton like they did with Nissan. Maybe not.  
 
----&gt; I doubt so either...who can stand if you were not given the full authorities in certain decision, and always intervene your decision, or assign some &#039;nuts&#039; in the CEO position &quot;to learn from the sub-ordinates&quot;...I doubt anyone would have interest eventhough the potential is there. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eRis-Aeir4s said,</p>
<p>September 26, 2005 @ 1:36 pm </p>
<p>I&acirc;&euro;&trade;m starting to think maybe Renault will be interested in Proton like they did with Nissan. Maybe not. </p>
<p>&#8212;-&gt; I doubt so either&#8230;who can stand if you were not given the full authorities in certain decision, and always intervene your decision, or assign some &#039;nuts&#039; in the CEO position &quot;to learn from the sub-ordinates&quot;&#8230;I doubt anyone would have interest eventhough the potential is there. </p>
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		<title>By: eRis-Aeir4s</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15331</link>
		<dc:creator>eRis-Aeir4s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Proton goes to VW , It&#039;s bound to make Proton better anyway. So why not? 
 
Proton , as of today , Inhales Vigorously (ie : Sucks). They are wrong right from the beginning to go R3. Why race when you can&#039;t go from A to B without problems? 
 
I&#039;m starting to think maybe Renault will be interested in Proton like they did with Nissan. Maybe not. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Proton goes to VW , It&#039;s bound to make Proton better anyway. So why not?</p>
<p>Proton , as of today , Inhales Vigorously (ie : Sucks). They are wrong right from the beginning to go R3. Why race when you can&#039;t go from A to B without problems?</p>
<p>I&#039;m starting to think maybe Renault will be interested in Proton like they did with Nissan. Maybe not. </p>
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		<title>By: rafreez</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15316</link>
		<dc:creator>rafreez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree with travis I am...proton should widen their product to include SUV n MPV...and how about lorry n busses....even mitsu has its on lorry...Proton please came up with hi tech product....Hybrid 7seater...or SUV....I&#039;m sure Proton will survive untill end off time....but dont design any new product based on japan design such as Juara (stupid deciesion)....do market survey....what design local prefer, out side market prefer what type of cars n price range....do market research lah POTONG oiiii....I dont want proton to end up like SEAT who r going to be SEATed by VW....hehehe bad jokes... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree with travis I am&#8230;proton should widen their product to include SUV n MPV&#8230;and how about lorry n busses&#8230;.even mitsu has its on lorry&#8230;Proton please came up with hi tech product&#8230;.Hybrid 7seater&#8230;or SUV&#8230;.I&#039;m sure Proton will survive untill end off time&#8230;.but dont design any new product based on japan design such as Juara (stupid deciesion)&#8230;.do market survey&#8230;.what design local prefer, out side market prefer what type of cars n price range&#8230;.do market research lah POTONG oiiii&#8230;.I dont want proton to end up like SEAT who r going to be SEATed by VW&#8230;.hehehe bad jokes&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: travis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15306</link>
		<dc:creator>travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh oh volks really in hot soup recently, with porsche suddenly wanna get 20% stake of volks. N since SEAT reminds me of proton direction nowdays, will proton direction is similiar with SEAT = DOOM????!!! 
 
Man, never concerntrate ur cars manufacturing with too sports oriented. C what happended to mazda n nissan in the 90ist, n now Proton. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh oh volks really in hot soup recently, with porsche suddenly wanna get 20% stake of volks. N since SEAT reminds me of proton direction nowdays, will proton direction is similiar with SEAT = DOOM????!!!</p>
<p>Man, never concerntrate ur cars manufacturing with too sports oriented. C what happended to mazda n nissan in the 90ist, n now Proton. </p>
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		<title>By: ijas_Eng.Camp</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15302</link>
		<dc:creator>ijas_Eng.Camp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a cool black rims too...haa </description>
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		<title>By: Johnny Boy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15301</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How sharp i am....hehehe, look at the front portion, Subaru Impreza WRC/X copycatted itmeh....... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How sharp i am&#8230;.hehehe, look at the front portion, Subaru Impreza WRC/X copycatted itmeh&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: Edison</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15297</link>
		<dc:creator>Edison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funnily, the side profile of the Seat Cupra looks scarily similar to the SRM. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funnily, the side profile of the Seat Cupra looks scarily similar to the SRM. </p>
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		<title>By: teslarage</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15295</link>
		<dc:creator>teslarage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wat in the world are you guys doing so early in the morning?! :lol: 
 
lets hope that doesnt happen to proton, aite? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wat in the world are you guys doing so early in the morning?! <img src='http://s3.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>lets hope that doesnt happen to proton, aite? </p>
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		<title>By: bush</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15293</link>
		<dc:creator>bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 06:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please god..dont let the VW buy majority stake in Proton...otherwise we have nothing... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please god..dont let the VW buy majority stake in Proton&#8230;otherwise we have nothing&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15288</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 03:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wah! you need to sleep meh! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wah! you need to sleep meh! </p>
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		<title>By: E-Nabill</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/09/26/seat-in-hot-soup/#comment-15287</link>
		<dc:creator>E-Nabill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 03:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wonder if the same ting hapens to proton if VW ever buy a stake in p1 n p1 doesnt show good numbers... </description>
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