malaysian car companies….how many car got safety features????

Proton needs to build up itz brand image & quality! Why few consumers complaint about Perodua? I read an article that Perodua only have 0.2% defect rates. Proton recalls means an improvement! they managed to rectify a fault , Cheerz!

Given a choice to own a Jap car, would u still opt for locals???

I wouldnt unless i can afford an import. For consumers to choose a local vehicle over an import, it must show great attractiveness if pricing isnt a considerating factor.

Famous only because the VtechEngine, only AhBeng use it.

Imagine Malaysia without proton & perodua……..

maybe….now i drive my honda civic (quality car from real car manufacturer)

(SIGHS)

October 3, 2005 @ 8:54 am

// i tot.. i also agree with rajanickand .. most people are anti proton (9even they never use and drive a proton! ) .. Drive Perdana? .. it’s ok saja maa.. good what..

–> Like i said b4, those are victim of owning a proton or wat they frens or relatives experienced these things. Not necessarily these ppl are anti proton, if proton is doing good who would waste their saliva to criticize (sohai?) Perdana? you bet…my perdana oni last for 3 years and my gearbox is the first tool to tell me "its time to change ur car"…gip u indication wor…good maa.

sad…:(

recall salah.. tak recall salah..

and that is the common malaysian way..

eh.. of p2 recal taht mean ok aaa.. so good a.. wah great aa…

// i tot.. i also agree with rajanickand .. most people are anti proton (9even they never use and drive a proton! ) .. Drive Perdana? .. it's ok saja maa.. good what..

I used to own a Wira and back in the day, almost everything a KL person needed to do with a Proton was done in Glenmarie. I can personally vouch for the "Laaaa, Proton la! Mesti rosak!" type of comments. I make it a habit to be very "kam cheng" with the ground staff i.e. the fellas who actually do the work on your car. It was a standard joke among them that your Proton was programmed/manufactured to malfunction as soon as the warranty ran out.

I recently changed the distributor in my dad's TWELVE year old SEG Corolla. No other engine components like this e.g. alternator, starter motor, etc, have been changed to date. For my 8 year old Wira, the list is:

1. Alternator (2x)

2. Carburretor (1x)

3. Starter Motor (3x)

4. Water Pump (2x)

5. Fuel pump (1x)

6. Whole fuse box and relays (2x)

There is more, but I can't remember. Mind you, my mom and I shared the car and the total mileage was approx. 100k KM. We never went above 130KM/h, all parts were either genuine Proton parts or Mitsubishi parts. Servicing was done on time and with proper parts and good engine oil. However, I still had to do all of the above.

So, the problem is a two pronged one; the build quality and parts in a Proton are absolute crap, and the Service Centres are bad! Unfortunately, there are pretty damned big prongs!

Hoewever, sometime the Proton SC itself don't have sufficient and highly trained mechanics to do the inspection. At one time i serviced my car, 1st time -5,000 km at PESC in Teluk Intan. The mechanics just don't know what to do with the car. Only after a senior mechanics came that he point out what needs to be done on my car. The same happen at PESC Taiping. Some of them just got hired because of nothing. No certificate, not even experience to inspect cars default. They just know change the engine oil, the filter and the spark plugs.

But, some of them is very skillful because they are being trained in Polytechnics. They know what to do. And because of several unsatisfactory incidents caused by the wankers, the PESC image is tarnished.

Not all Proton SC is bad, it just your luck to find a really good one.

Just to make things straight, I believe Proton Edar SC staff would never kutuk Proton cars. U'll be suprised how loyal and supportive these ppl towards Proton.

I own the the 2002 version, the above problem remained. It was only be replaced when I asked the SC, the response : Biasalah, banyak WAJA sudah tukar. [ Such manufacturing defect will not be changed if exceed warranty period ]

yahuuu! (singging MC HAMMER SONG)

' can't touch this … daaa da da daaaa dada'

anyway, the recent waja recall is fair enough, and at least it show some minor improvement in POTONG. keep the job done!!

i guess everyone will agree, as the sentence: BECOZ PROTONG IS CHEAP, THEN BLA BLA BLA… such of this is not an excuse while something happens to the POTONG product, right? IMPROVEMENT and BRAIN WASH is needed.

i think u missed my point, i'm refering to the attitude of SC staff that was mentioned earlier. i have never encountered any proton SC that puts you off just like that nor anyone else who experienced the same thing. My experience was whenevr they cannot solve the problem, they will ask politely for u to come back another day or leave the the car for 1-2 day. there was one time i was really angry and demanded them to solve it right away, and the guy did it! worked until 8pm when actually the SC closes at 6pm..

do u know that everytime u service ur car, u will have to fill in the feedback form…. and u if u are still unhappy with the service, u can forward ur complain to the CEO which u will get a rm10 voucher. i have submitted 5 forms to the CEO mostly to give compliments to the SC staff. I must say tthat we need to give credit when a credit is due.

oo but wait.. there was one time i send my father's 1978 clubman to Lim Tayar…. and the mechanic said "ini kereta sudah lama,kereta lama mmg macam ni.." and guess wat, i went to another nearby mechanic. they almost instantly can pinpoint the problem. Anyway… the 1978 clubman is on sale. anybody interested can contact me… u guys can view the pics on autoworld.com.my –> under classic cars.

As you all may know, "Recall" means this FAILURE might cause DEAD of Human. We consumer must understand and bring back our cars to Auto maker for replacement of parts and get it repair as soon as possible.

Nice to have your feedback, i face some problem in past few years, until last year i finally find a reponsible SC.

But still, from my pass experience, Proton still weak to channel customer complain. They should gather all information from

1) New car delivery (immediate feedback form from customer & salesman)

2) customer feedback (customer opinion after 1 week or 1 month)

3) deffective report ( from all SC)

i bet no one will say anything….

if you receive good feedback from proton SC, it's might be just you too.

Proton SC sometimes never solve my problems, i told them my handbreak light keep on, i wonder how they fix but when i receive the car it really gone, after a week it light again i bring to other place than proton SC, it actually just break oil almost finish n solve easily.

my car always have weird sound while brake after 1 year old, i told them everytime i bring to SC, until now almost 4 years old already the sound still there.

steering having sound while turn around after 2 years, i told everytime while service, never solve too. i wonder how they made when just finish service have no problems at all n will come back within 1 week?

plastic or some unknown loose sound in cabin appear after 4 months old, they told me proton is like this because the price is cheap, i wonder is proton really cheap or gorv tax makes foreign car expensive? so the problem never solve n the sound increase.

casset player volume control loose after 3 years, ok i have nothing to said since the warranty is over, it loose at right time.

THOMAS said,

October 1, 2005 @ 12:09 pm

BTW, some Proton customer service & SC really like shit; when we complain, they will say, “kereta PROTON memang itu macam, Kereta Proton memang banyak bunyi, pergi complain dengan SALESMAN lah”

Thomas, do u actually receive that reply from proton SC? or is it just word of mouth? please dun spread rumours.. my experience with proton ppl were all good, and i asked around the proton owners in my workplace.. they all said the SC were very helpful to them…. they were ready to go extra mile for their service… even make an effort to come personally to your home….

i think if u really get that sort of comment, maybe they don't like u… it's just u!… for that i consider that as an isolated case… if u heard that from word of mouth.. maybe u should do some research first before bashing proton blindly… i wonder whether u owned a proton or not…

I can tell u, they got not difference compare to PROTON wira.

With Cheap price, some ppl expected luxury car Quality.

BTW, some Proton customer service & SC really like shit; when we complain, they will say, "kereta PROTON memang itu macam, Kereta Proton memang banyak bunyi, pergi complain dengan SALESMAN lah"

If Proton really channel a new car feedback system, or Troble Shoot TEAM. The problemes won't keep repeat & repeat; PREVENTIVE masure must carry out to protect consumer right.

Sidelined customer complain; is the true failure of PROTON.

Pentan Sakua…. said,

October 1, 2005 @ 11:07 am

RECALL ALL PROTON CARS IN MALAYSIA. REASON: ACTUAL CAR PRICE IS ONLY RM15000.00. SELLING PRICE RM 50000.00. PROTON MAKING TOO MUCH PROFIT. DOSA BESAR. RECALL ALL. REPLACE ALL PROTON USERS WITH AT LEAST TOYOTA ALTIS…….

ya ya…. recall all cars because all the cars in malaysia is selling above their price….and that includes ur stupid toyota altis…. maybe pentan sakua should just ride a bullock cart like wat samy suggest……. bodo punya comment.! ingat lawak la tu … bangang! hari-hari comment bende bodo2!

i think if there is no such asshole thing like proton, malaysia won't be getting this type of shameful incident.

it's a very KEH LIAO thing to do in order to form the name POTONG, juz a waste! YUCKS!!!

proton PUI PUI PUI!!!

You know why people look down on Proton?

Might need to go out more dude.

BTW, I drive a Proton and I love mine. BUT I must admit, they use cheap materials to build this car.