Comments on: Shahrir: Reduce local content if not competitive

By: LOVE all GOODS

LOVE all GOODS — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:45:53 +0000

Fizie49…wa caya lu.

Apa yg saya lihat, most people here ada lack of attitude terhadap budaya kerja BERKUALITI. Tak kira bangsa janji Malaysian. Mungkin sebab kita lama dijajah oleh bangsa asing make use a bit not berdaya-saing.

But if we (malaysian) dreams to become satu bangsa yg disegani, KITA BOLEH. Ubah budaya kerja, suka bersaing, elakkan budaya RASUAH (gomen ppl ni), suka CEMBURU dengan kejayaan bangsa lain, etc.

Pendek kata, apa jua perlakuan yg tak baik KITA ELAKKAN… mcm si SI FU??? he ehehhh…

By: LOVE all GOODS

LOVE all GOODS — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:36:59 +0000

darkfree said,

“…Ater 3 years you can see the product become better. You all should follow their trend on how to produce a quality car???. SO that sorry for the first buyer. ”

Tak BETUL ni, apa beza Wira 1995 dengan Wira 2005?…
Harga become more expensive, quality drop, bubuh eksosori bukan-bukan.
Give your commen in a proper way bro…before make some critics.

By: darkfree

darkfree — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:10:50 +0000

Whatever you said about proton, they still produce the cars. Actually proton do not have enough money to test their product, so the solution is produce first and get input from consumre(us). Ater 3 years you can see the product become better. You all should follow their trend on how to produce a quality car???. SO that sorry for the first buyer.

By: excuseme

excuseme — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:45:11 +0000

What would be interesting is to carry out a survey on accident death toll of proton’s owners

By: Savvy?

Savvy? — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:58:58 +0000

mitsu_galant_2000 said,
October 18, 2005 @ 12:15 pm

“local vendor mostly are chinese.. this the fact.. my brother those before working in the moulding / stamping maker.. build too many mould for car part, from small part to the medium part.. the big part i do no.”

Let’s face one thing Mitsu, local vendors are not mostly chinese. Yes, they are the ones making those stuff. But they’re all mostly sub-contractors commissioned by actual Proton appointed companies to manafacture the components. That’s where the big money goes to, from one hand to another hand. In return, those component manafacturer will need to make their cut, they reduce quality. Sent finished product to Proton, they don’t reject, why? Because 1) they’re accustomed to inferior products and proudly proclaims a defect by saying “Ini standard leh” 2) It’s a right hand to left hand thing, they can’t afford to reject their own company stocks.

If reducing “local” component content can improve Proton’s competitiveness, maybe they can compete. Rightfully as a business entity, they have no obligations to keep “local” component manafacturers afloat if they can’t produce up to quality. To do that is anti business.

By: SEE FU

SEE FU — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:45:37 +0000

Thank you for visitng my BLOG! If you have comments, pls paste it on my BLOG too, you all are WELCOME man!! Hope you all will enjoy the JOKES!!

But before that you must join YAHOO first lei!!

YAU MO KAU……….CHOU!! Cheers!!

By: SEE FU

SEE FU — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:41:11 +0000

Wah!! Who WROTE that?? What a joke!

YAU MO KAU……CHOU!!! copy my one?

By: mitsu_galant_2000

mitsu_galant_2000 — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:29:45 +0000

he/she’s traped *yawn*

By: epalhead

epalhead — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:13:40 +0000

kids..

By: epalhead

epalhead — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:13:03 +0000

what??? chinglish?????? are u typing a word there SEE FU????
(expressing deep sighs)

By: SEE FU

SEE FU — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:56:46 +0000

What’s UP??

Yes! Only CHINGLISH is OKAY!!! Sorry I am still learning English……one day I will be good!! YOu all will know……target until wawasan 2020

YAU MO KAU……..CHOU!!

By: mitsu_galant_2000

mitsu_galant_2000 — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:54:35 +0000

AND THE SEE FU** USING CHINGLISH is OKAY? ..
WTF..

okay.. nevermind.. take time to growup child.. nah take this..lollypop

By: epalhead

epalhead — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 02:01:26 +0000

fezie: mitsu galant:

dude, SEE FU has issues. expressing ur opinion in malays doesnt makes u “traitor” to ur own country. feels free to throw. SEE Fu needs a little time to grow up. just gives him some time. poor him. he’s just a kid. kid always behave like that.

why dont u all pay a visit to his pethatic blog…..u’ll understand.

p/s: btw SEE Fu, ur english is not good.

By: Fizie49

Fizie49 — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 01:34:54 +0000

Helloi mitsu_galant_2000

Just ignore See Fu OK. Young man always behave like this. A man take time to grow and mature. He will become a very successfull person in the future. He just need time to understand.

By: mitsu_galant_2000

mitsu_galant_2000 — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 01:00:04 +0000

fizie.. see that See Fu just piss off..
yeah in the realiti, most chinese were taukeh.. most malay were kuli..
so tokey must change from makin thousand bucks to more care on quality.. this is not a racial matter..

By: gegaoff

gegaoff — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:22:02 +0000

dont’ care whether the vendors is chinese, indian or malay… those that need the answer still unsolve… right? mana Quality??

who care the race? we talk about the quality that that POTONG should have… don’t care 20years b4 or 20years now…. if we or big G want to maintain the POTONG status, they must do something.

of coz, we all know most of the time, the truth is: just talk only… like here… sigh…

but well, may be as what ‘biothing’ said, we should sign off and let NAP or G know we really want to c some different?

cheers…

By: SEE FU

SEE FU — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:14:45 +0000

Paul, when did you change YOUR BLOG into “Mari belajar MAngalish and BAHASA MALAYSIA” BLOG lei??

YAU MO KAU……………..CHOU!!! Yeah BOLEH…. BOLEH!!! Siapa boleh mampus boleh….!

By: Fizie49

Fizie49 — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:30:49 +0000

mitsu_galant_2000,
dah lama aku nak beritau perkara nie kepada semua orang yang kebanyakan local vendors bukannya bumiputra……tapi nanti aku dicop sebagai orang yang suka mengetengahkan isu2 perkauman……cakap salah….tak cakap salah…..tapi orang tetap mengutuk……aku harap satu hari nanti ramai yang akan faham perkara sebenar…..semoga semua mendapat kejayaan yang diimpikan….
salam hormat…..

By: biothing

biothing — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:46:11 +0000

OK, main article abotu Sharir, no big deal, agreed OK
Then Proton, must be blamed, OK
Then Vendors, must be blamed OK.

Everyone satisfied with these talking cocks (and fannies). Why noy get together Paul, draft a resolution and pass to NAP people. BTW, I am sure NAP people are reading this blogs too, we’ll see..

and happy retirement to TunM, I look forward to your books please

By: mitsu_galant_2000

mitsu_galant_2000 — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:17:49 +0000

miss typing.. BESI PADA .. Besi padat / besi waja .. Kiub besi penuh tanpa ruang kosong.. yang diukir dan dibentuk sebagai Mould / acuan untuk plastic injection

By: mitsu_galant_2000

mitsu_galant_2000 — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:15:30 +0000

local vendor mostly are chinese.. this the fact.. my brother those before working in the moulding / stamping maker.. build too many mould for car part, from small part to the medium part.. the big part i do no.

agree with fizie.. the mould created form the BESI PADA, per cube is above thaan 50 K ++ ..

my brother (adik) is workin in the 3 company makin mould. 2 of it makin banyak part for our local car.. perodua n proton.. Why my brother jump to another company by comany?..
because the sallary.. my brother knew the cost.. the benefit dia punya boss berap pun boleh kira..
so most the boss mau untung gila gila punya.. boss kaya, kuli cukup makan, boleh hidup, shopping sikit2 dah la.. then my brother stop working in the mould field since he acciden with his last chinese tokey yang bayar dia agak mahal dari yang lain RM3K .. he’s mechanic now..

so there’s someway to look.

Most of the local vendors ./ supliers etc etc is Kaki Mau Makan duit banyak..
Never think about another responsibility.. and STAFF TOO!

aku benci datuk sharir nih.. for me.. He JUST ANOTHER BULLSHIT.. mencari perhatian dan pandangan orang yang kononnya dia MACAM BAGUS..

By: daniel

daniel — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:37:15 +0000

dan ingin saya tekankan, kalau anda berkata bagi peluang kepada local vendors.. kerajaan dan bagi banyak.. sangat banyak.. tapi oleh kerana “tongkat” yang diberi kerajaan ini, mereka tak mampu berdiri sendiri, dan tidak mahu memajukan diri untuk memastikan produk mereka berkualiti.. yang buruk imej, proton.. yang sakit, pengguna keter proton.. ade paham? *cheers.

By: daniel

daniel — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:34:03 +0000

kepada saudara fidzie, saya memahami apa yang saudara cakapkan.. tapi hendaklah saudara memahami, kualiti barang2 interior proton teruk.. tidak berkualiti dalam jangka masa yang panjang.. memang lah kalau saudara nak cakap kualiti finishing dalam keter korea (getz dan matrix) kurang.. tapi saudara tak nampak ker yang barang2 dalamnyer tahan lama.. kalau dalam gen-2, memang ler finishing lawa.. tapi tak tahan lama.. takde kualiti.. yang kena untuk membayar kos pembaikian, siapa? orang malaysia yang beli keter tuh pada harga yang agak mahal.. tapi kualiti tarak.. itu perbezaan yang sangat ketara walapun keter ckd honda.. walaupun dia upah local vendor buat kan komponen2, tapi tahan lama.. ada paham? perbezaan vendors potong dan syarikat lain..

By: adamckc

adamckc — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:19:55 +0000

fizie your malay power is great… respect.

i feel this is going to just another talk cock and do nothing staff..

after 20 years if they wanted to improve they could have done that earlier.

and our nations progress is always limited by the policy of restricting the vendors to certain bumi sources, and that is going to make us less in our progress for sure.. why no competition isnt it…it means lazy service la right.

in my work place the sole maintenance provider medivest sdn bhd is so terible in providing their service, but because of cronyism (related to mahathir la) there is no other way but to use that unreasonable service… so do you think we could progress like our neighbours in such an uncompetitive environment ??…

By: newspaper update

newspaper update — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:59:38 +0000

so… why speak about Nasa Ria national car status, …. so they have auto qualify as national car with this rulling….. so Naza 206… he he ha ha make this car cheap cheap ya

By: pycazu

pycazu — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:20:11 +0000

yup, true… subsidy is a form of corruption.
Hi Fizie49, as u and me working for foreign company, then u must already understood how japanese and korean working.
They won’t ever compromise when in term of quality, design etc. U can truly see the different attitude of doing work, isn’t? Even though our malaysian have creativity, capability, but the main lacking is the ATTITUDE. We can do extremely well job when employed by these foreign company. B
ut, it’s much different at the environment of local company which i have experienced as well. They take granted for so-called “quality” as long as their buyers purchased it.
In this cruel market, that’s no messy of national-patrioritism, who build “tougher” and “last-longer”, he is the winner!
This is also one of the main reason why these foreign companies withdraw from China.
Globalisation… it’s what we gonna face and challenge it…

By: Handsfree

Handsfree — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:39:55 +0000

Fizie49 brother…

wat u said.. i can understand…. and i can feel it too..

but what to do.. those top management.. only see short term and personal interest.. never see whole company as core interest…

if malaysia want to comes up…. 1st… all sudsidy must reduced….the more gooddies we have the more we are do well…..

these gooddies.. make us lazy n dependent n greedy…

By: SEE FU

SEE FU — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:49:56 +0000

kody bro arr!!
You are correct, betul, Tepat!! Setuju You lei.

Actually I think Locallization means LOWER the car grade and performance and YET the car price keep as before. Finally POTONG make more PROFIT and quality issue blame VEndors. WAH……very easy excuses!!!

YAU MO KAU……CHOU!!! POTONG lah should be Blame!! NOt only the VEndors!! Sucker!!

By: drmuzi

drmuzi — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:42:22 +0000

i think you guys just overly excited…

who cares about Shahrir samad opinion , he just shouts so that he can get one of the slots for one of the impending cabinet reshuffle…namely the Federal Minister.

that ’s it.

noticed non of Malay language paper includes shahrir comments thus simplify not that important for the Big Boss….especially TUN M and Pak Lah.

hope the press don’t rush after Rafidah once she left the hopsital , i fear her knee cap…will come out…and break their lenses…hehe just kidding..my deares makcik…so quiet recuperating……:)

By: kody

kody — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 03:29:33 +0000

Even potong now mention have whatsoever system to control the vendors quality, but then this is only the process quality not the actual all user want, quality material used for all parts. Even if potong can achieve 0 defects per 100 cars build, but no quality material parts still cause the cars suck!! e.g. of suck localise part, my new wira aeroback on 2004, Aircond compressor create noisy sound, check at workshop, & informed to me is that many new Wira have same prob because new localise compressor is smaller & noisier, old one is bigger & from japan brand!!! Suck potong, localise but never buyoff material quality!!!