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	<title>Comments on: Nissan planning Nissan 450Z</title>
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		<title>By: Rufus McDufus</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-244085</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus McDufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT ABOUT THE 560Z?   Err why not the 1000Z. While you&#039;re at it, why not shove in a turbine core from an RR Trent 900. Gadzooks how much horsepower do you need?  What do you need it for? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT ABOUT THE 560Z?   Err why not the 1000Z. While you&#039;re at it, why not shove in a turbine core from an RR Trent 900. Gadzooks how much horsepower do you need?  What do you need it for? </p>
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		<title>By: just_laze</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-54220</link>
		<dc:creator>just_laze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is it then? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is it then? </p>
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		<title>By: Akazamabamaboo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-44262</link>
		<dc:creator>Akazamabamaboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any photo or sketch or artist&#039;s impression? =) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any photo or sketch or artist&#039;s impression? =) </p>
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		<title>By: Driftin&#039; 240sx</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-31243</link>
		<dc:creator>Driftin&#039; 240sx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I also think you may misunderstand the reason and/or function of twin turbo use. You don&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t have two beefy turbos just to double the &#226;&#8364;&#732;turbo power.&#226;&#8364;&#8482; One turbo will be smaller in order to spool faster off the start while the other is a larger turbo to provide more boost further down the line. This eliminates the much maligned &#226;&#8364;&#732;turbo lag&#226;&#8364;&#8482; intrinsic to larger turbos when a car starts off. The airflow is impeded in the intake as the larger fan struggles to spin faster.&quot; 
 
Not always true.... That is one way that they can be set-up... But you can also have them run side by side on a v shaped engine so that you dont have to have some mass of piping connecting both mani&#039;s to one turbo... 
 
&quot;it sounds better runs better and has more power, so put up your 4 cylinders and get a real motor.&quot; 
 
^^^Only one opinion of the many... But i do agree with having the V8 put into it. If anyone has seen what top secret has done to a z about 2 years ago... They took a z and the nissan titan motor and put them together. Then slapped on some huge turbos... Even more power = even more fun... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I also think you may misunderstand the reason and/or function of twin turbo use. You don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t have two beefy turbos just to double the &acirc;&euro;&tilde;turbo power.&acirc;&euro;&trade; One turbo will be smaller in order to spool faster off the start while the other is a larger turbo to provide more boost further down the line. This eliminates the much maligned &acirc;&euro;&tilde;turbo lag&acirc;&euro;&trade; intrinsic to larger turbos when a car starts off. The airflow is impeded in the intake as the larger fan struggles to spin faster.&quot;</p>
<p>Not always true&#8230;. That is one way that they can be set-up&#8230; But you can also have them run side by side on a v shaped engine so that you dont have to have some mass of piping connecting both mani&#039;s to one turbo&#8230;</p>
<p>&quot;it sounds better runs better and has more power, so put up your 4 cylinders and get a real motor.&quot;</p>
<p>^^^Only one opinion of the many&#8230; But i do agree with having the V8 put into it. If anyone has seen what top secret has done to a z about 2 years ago&#8230; They took a z and the nissan titan motor and put them together. Then slapped on some huge turbos&#8230; Even more power = even more fun&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: muscle</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-27868</link>
		<dc:creator>muscle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 08:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to all you people who want a turbo put on this car, you are very badly in need of some schooling. I dont care how light the motor is and how many turbos you can cram onto it, pure v8 muscle is better. it sounds better runs better and has more power, so put up your 4 cylinders and get a real motor. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to all you people who want a turbo put on this car, you are very badly in need of some schooling. I dont care how light the motor is and how many turbos you can cram onto it, pure v8 muscle is better. it sounds better runs better and has more power, so put up your 4 cylinders and get a real motor. </p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-27339</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 450z their refering to is probably the gtr. If not then that means the gtr will be an infiniti and this 450z will be nissans halo car. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 450z their refering to is probably the gtr. If not then that means the gtr will be an infiniti and this 450z will be nissans halo car. </p>
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		<title>By: JackKnows</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-26463</link>
		<dc:creator>JackKnows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 11:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They just have to slap a twin-turbo on the 350z and they&#226;&#8364;&#8482;d be pushing 430hp anyways.&quot; 
As much as I&#039;d like that, it isn&#039;t realistic.  There is way too much R&amp;D involved in turbos, especially for a platform that has remained naturally aspirated since its inception.  This would increase costs greatly and on top of that, you can&#039;t just take any engine and slap a turbo on it, expecting it to run perfectly.  They would likely add as much if not more weight in turbos and processes for strengthening the motor for reliability than just a single litre of displacement.  While elegant, the age old rule still applies: &#039;the more complicated something is, the more there is that can go wrong.&#039;  I also think you may misunderstand the reason and/or function of twin turbo use.  You don&#039;t have two beefy turbos just to double the &#039;turbo power.&#039;  One turbo will be smaller in order to spool faster off the start while the other is a larger turbo to provide more boost further down the line.  This eliminates the much maligned &#039;turbo lag&#039; intrinsic to larger turbos when a car starts off.  The airflow is impeded in the intake as the larger fan struggles to spin faster. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;They just have to slap a twin-turbo on the 350z and they&acirc;&euro;&trade;d be pushing 430hp anyways.&quot;</p>
<p>As much as I&#039;d like that, it isn&#039;t realistic.  There is way too much R&amp;D involved in turbos, especially for a platform that has remained naturally aspirated since its inception.  This would increase costs greatly and on top of that, you can&#039;t just take any engine and slap a turbo on it, expecting it to run perfectly.  They would likely add as much if not more weight in turbos and processes for strengthening the motor for reliability than just a single litre of displacement.  While elegant, the age old rule still applies: &#039;the more complicated something is, the more there is that can go wrong.&#039;  I also think you may misunderstand the reason and/or function of twin turbo use.  You don&#039;t have two beefy turbos just to double the &#039;turbo power.&#039;  One turbo will be smaller in order to spool faster off the start while the other is a larger turbo to provide more boost further down the line.  This eliminates the much maligned &#039;turbo lag&#039; intrinsic to larger turbos when a car starts off.  The airflow is impeded in the intake as the larger fan struggles to spin faster. </p>
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		<title>By: mrs.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-25778</link>
		<dc:creator>mrs.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cute</description>
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		<title>By: GeniusKing</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-25297</link>
		<dc:creator>GeniusKing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>560z is in makro. :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>560z is in makro. <img src='http://vcdn2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Carl0s</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-21662</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl0s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT ABOUT THE 560Z??? </description>
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		<title>By: Sexythang</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-21654</link>
		<dc:creator>Sexythang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 23:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree porsche would always have its marque to back it up....but thats what the japs sports car need to provide....a cheaper alternative.  
 
i agree with the turbo twinchargers......but maybe they want to keep to current theme of the nissan z which is NA. the turbochargers are for the skyline. but i agree with mr said, with the technology of turbos getting better everyday, theres no need for a big heavy engine to derive more power. also with the awd coupled in.....problably wont even feel the turbo switchover. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree porsche would always have its marque to back it up&#8230;.but thats what the japs sports car need to provide&#8230;.a cheaper alternative. </p>
<p>i agree with the turbo twinchargers&#8230;&#8230;but maybe they want to keep to current theme of the nissan z which is NA. the turbochargers are for the skyline. but i agree with mr said, with the technology of turbos getting better everyday, theres no need for a big heavy engine to derive more power. also with the awd coupled in&#8230;..problably wont even feel the turbo switchover. </p>
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		<title>By: mr</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-21492</link>
		<dc:creator>mr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They just have to slap a twin-turbo on the 350z and they&#039;d be pushing 430hp anyways.  no need to jam a huge v8 (much much heavier motor) into a 350z to give it more kick. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They just have to slap a twin-turbo on the 350z and they&#039;d be pushing 430hp anyways.  no need to jam a huge v8 (much much heavier motor) into a 350z to give it more kick. </p>
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		<title>By: hot1gmx6</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-21077</link>
		<dc:creator>hot1gmx6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read somewhere that the GTR Proto would be getting the VK45 in a &quot;turbo&quot; trim....but damn, nissan finally gets it.  They&#039;ve been putting V8&#039;s in the early 240/60/80Z&#039;s for years, and we had to wait, what, over 30 years for it? 
 
But enough about the bitchin...it would/is a hot car. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read somewhere that the GTR Proto would be getting the VK45 in a &quot;turbo&quot; trim&#8230;.but damn, nissan finally gets it.  They&#039;ve been putting V8&#039;s in the early 240/60/80Z&#039;s for years, and we had to wait, what, over 30 years for it?</p>
<p>But enough about the bitchin&#8230;it would/is a hot car. </p>
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		<title>By: Umeng</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-20911</link>
		<dc:creator>Umeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice!!!! </description>
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		<title>By: hfrshah</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-20673</link>
		<dc:creator>hfrshah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pic is a 350Z GT4 Special Edition.  
 
Will it be a new car from ground up or a 350Z with bigger engine? With the new engine, Nissan might just (barely) matches (tho not likely) the performance of the two targeted rivals, but would it be as special as either of them? In its current class, the 350Z&#039;s strong points are its looks, handling and outright pace.  
 
Going up the class ladder will be tricky for the Nissan, the Maser 4200GT&#039;s engine is touted to be one of the finest V8 ever, power delivery and sound to die for, while the Porsche 911 will be backed by its legendary status, plus its sublime handling. Compared to these cars the Nissan can be considered too &#039;ordinary&#039; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pic is a 350Z GT4 Special Edition. </p>
<p>Will it be a new car from ground up or a 350Z with bigger engine? With the new engine, Nissan might just (barely) matches (tho not likely) the performance of the two targeted rivals, but would it be as special as either of them? In its current class, the 350Z&#039;s strong points are its looks, handling and outright pace. </p>
<p>Going up the class ladder will be tricky for the Nissan, the Maser 4200GT&#039;s engine is touted to be one of the finest V8 ever, power delivery and sound to die for, while the Porsche 911 will be backed by its legendary status, plus its sublime handling. Compared to these cars the Nissan can be considered too &#039;ordinary&#039; </p>
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		<title>By: Sexythang</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-20663</link>
		<dc:creator>Sexythang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>finally....911 turbo needs some competition.....at least in terms of handling and speed...... 
 
i was thinking whether this would overlap or eclipse the new skyline. might be close coz the skyline might still use the 3.5 turboed. if im not guessing wrong. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>finally&#8230;.911 turbo needs some competition&#8230;..at least in terms of handling and speed&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>i was thinking whether this would overlap or eclipse the new skyline. might be close coz the skyline might still use the 3.5 turboed. if im not guessing wrong. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chua</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-20654</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Chua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely looks. Lovelier speed :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely looks. Lovelier speed <img src='http://vcdn2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: ex-mivec</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-20637</link>
		<dc:creator>ex-mivec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn it. i love this shit!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn it. i love this shit!!! </p>
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		<title>By: xprezzy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-20616</link>
		<dc:creator>xprezzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>350Z &gt;&gt; 450Z............. well lets see what nissan can do after this........ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>350Z &gt;&gt; 450Z&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. well lets see what nissan can do after this&#8230;&#8230;.. </p>
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		<title>By: rafreez</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-20583</link>
		<dc:creator>rafreez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nissan against porshe n maserati...let see the results of this battle... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nissan against porshe n maserati&#8230;let see the results of this battle&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: 8555</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2005/10/25/nissan-planning-nissan-450z/#comment-20577</link>
		<dc:creator>8555</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why? What about the R35 GTR Proto? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? What about the R35 GTR Proto? </p>
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