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this type of argument from proton or from that mahaleel is really lame. even though we may not have the ability to find out how many % of proton owners have complaints about thier cars. But one thing is certain, the chances of having friends or families who bought proton and are complaining and unhappy about it is alot higher than having friends or family who bought proton and are happy with it.

it might be wrong to generalize the statement to the rest of proton owners in malaysia. but the fact remains that it is indeed a safe bet to assume that proton cars are indeed problematic from your own experience and those around you. andit would seem better not to try prove ourselves wrong and go on buying a proton as your next car few years down the track.

Hyundai cars seem to get very good reviews from newspapers and auto magazines. so they must be doing something right. and i thought KIA is part of hyundai that caters as the 'proton' of korea and hyundai. or maybe its daewoo or maybe im wrong.

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wait wait… this ain't no Proton bashing topic! Cheh! Got deviated again!

i don't agree with just bashing proton

i think it is the goverment policy that made proton less competitive

as you can see from the AP and corruption

corruption = goverment

heheh

REFORMASI!

Quite interesting that at recent time Proton ex-CEO Mahadeel came out to defend what he have done for proton before also. (I read it at NanYang last 2 day, just wondering why no one posting the article yet. So, Paul! We waited u for too long…)

It's just ridiculous that the comments are like "Those bashing Protong never driving Protong car before" la, "Protong car's defect rate just 1% only" la… blah blah…

I'm sure that most of the Protong "bashers" here got the suck experience owning Protong car or still driving it, like Ferox said:

"Out of 1 Million Protons sold, similarly gives us 1 Million Complaints. This is the great 'Proton One to One Guarantee Policy'. "

CLAP it!!!

November 8, 2005 @ 9:02 pm

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Hyundai got Blog??? Really?? I would like to make some complaint for my Friend…friends….friend's car lei!!

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Looks wise however, I still think if you kena some 3k metallic black on the car, put on a nice bodykit and get a nice set of rims, the car will look better than most other "done up" cars!

i think that's not hard for proton to improve, but he choose to protect these local expensive + low quality parts supplier, to keep them alive. he want to be hero.

nah, customer are not stupid after 20years, or actually we dont want to be the "man behind hero" anymore? that's y u see perodua's car selling, daihatsu will not allow them to be such hero, their tag are precious, no gorv going to protect them.

hopefully proton will give up their hero work, to give us better products. else, nah, u see what's my next car!

What debate? This isn't a debate, this is Proton Bashing. Get that right! Woohoo… another round of Bashing. Alright Proton Bashers let's hear it. Haha.

"Doesn’t anybody realize, its the volume of protons sold which similarly gives you the volume of complaints.."

You're quite right Prometheus. Out of 1 Million Protons sold, similarly gives us 1 Million Complaints. This is the great "Proton One to One Guarantee Policy" No Questions Asked. (More like no Answers given). Haha. No other car maker have better policy than our Proton!!!

well, POTONG is our hot topic, becoz is a malaysian's product, and we are malaysian. ok? i bet korean's ppl will talk/compare local product to US or JP product as well…

anyway, i'm very interested what kind of 'defense' will that guy come out for GM's decision. as they make so huge of lose afterall… emm…

at the other way… if hyundai car is so cheap, but how come hyundai's car can go to globar market, but our lovely POTONG only get to UK, and few other oversea market, and with a small damm volumn? as simple as that, but some of us try not to look at that… sigh… that's y our country still only improve little by little…

cheers…

paul,can u open a topic so that we can debate about proton

What they say is and condemn is about PROTON's ability to look foward and improve.

PROTON shows no potential at all with super ugly models coming out. Poor design, poor safety feature and bla bla bla….

See if they can sell so cheap in UK (with extreme long warranties) why we the Malaysian who have been supporting PROTON since day one get to buy our so called "NATIONAL CAR" much moire expensive (with a extremely short warranties)

This just doesnt make sense at all. We support PROTON and in return we get to buy this shit box much more expensive……ridiculous rite…..

sigh……..

The Proton's in the UK aren't cheap. If you saw Paul's post a while ago on the 3 cars subjected to the Euro NCAP Tests. Jeremy Clarkson asked "Do you want this (Waja) to save a little or pay a bit more for a 5 star like this (Toyota Avensis)

I think..

I think the Sonata's nowadays might fare better. After all , Hyundai improved much faster.

" am not anti potong as i owned 1 b4. But globalization is on track now and comparison makes u look competence or otherwise…condemned!!"

means what eh? Must be my england no good. Sorry

"if oni potong…then i will be wasting my time in UK seeing potong compare to those british and continental cars…"

You do know that Protons are selling in the UK at very very very low prices with extremely long warranties?

Thats how they can compare lah. I don't think Proton makes much money there. not sure. Check the UK proton website. If I'm not mistaken only 1 pound can get u a car. Can't do that with any other conti cars.

November 8, 2005 @ 4:04 pm

I don’t really see how good are the Korean cars if being compare to our own Proton and Perodua,

—-> If you include P2 then u grabbed urself some credit there…they are improving a lot under daihatsu and toyota's flag. if oni potong…then i will be wasting my time in UK seeing potong compare to those british and continental cars…

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November 8, 2005 @ 2:47 pm

I Have a Proton Putra and a Kia Sportage. The Putra is 5 years old and the Sportage is 6 years old. I’ll never ever buy another KIA again. But i’ll buy another Proton.

—-> 6 year ago…Putra maybe better than sportage..and poor sportage, when it launched not long…Kia went into insolvency and was took over by hyundai. So thats virtually no improvement allowed. hmm anyway we are not looking behind…my fren can be proud when he first got his Saga Magma.

Ok done about "history". We have no issue if you want to buy another proton or even your whole family want to use proton. The manner fact in the market is Kia sportage is now designed to be better lookin and more reliable…Putra? sorry its a HISTORY dude! afterall now 1 model has improved to be a better quality car while the other has gone into history book. What is there to compare? We are looking at the progress buddy…not stop at the time proton launch their new model and everyone feeling proud to own a proton even the car has its own problem.

Look forward la plsss…Did Kia stopped themselves in the lights of Sephia and sportage?? Nope man! they have got their household name of Kia Sportage, Careso, Carens, Carnival, Optima, Spectra bla bla…POTONG? 6 years ago it was Wira, Iswara, perdana…6 years later? well ok la Wira, Iswara, perdana, emm..Waja, the famous design like Juara and Sawi? gip me a break…ppl are designing the car meeting the needs at the decade, not keep asking u to buy some obseleted model!!!

I am not anti potong as i owned 1 b4. But globalization is on track now and comparison makes u look competence or otherwise…condemned!!

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