only knows how to complains.

I have no interest in Proton's internal affairs nor i care about it's rival Myvi.I still have confidence in proton's cars eventhough some of it's model is juz not my taste.Perodua for me is total daihatsu and I don't like daihatsu.I would like to give some suggestions to proton..if they care lah.

proton should juz concetrate on their recent model such as the satria,wira,V6,gen2,savvy and not to mention the ugly aerobacks.

Why not bring back the putra model?

Why not try to improve the TECHNOLOGY and DESIGN in the recent models instead of thinking creating a new ones?

Proton should try to think from consumers point of views.Do some research in whats in and whats not.Like me,I don't give a f## if a cars comes with a CD player or not coz I can put an mp3 player and a PSP anytime.And my car will look cool internaly than other car.Proton should also considering the material they used for the interior.There's nothing wrong if proton used leather for the seats and wood for the dashboard panel and gear knobs.Think about the cool factor to attract buyer.It's not what proton designers or marketing thinks that counts,its the target market point of view that proton should consider because we're the ones that gonna buy your car.Give us a GOOD and QUALITY car plus good services,we don't mind paying extra.

Try to think globally.Try to think about the MAJORITY who thinks like me.The ones who keep bashing proton is the one who thinks driving a honda or a mitsu make him or her looks soooooooooooooo cool.But 70% can't afford any of it.heheh

Bash me for all i care.

peace.

soorry . friend.. out of topic

u r the CEO of BMW ka?

YAU MOU GAU…CHOR!!

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November 11, 2005 @ 9:42 pm

SEE FU wat is yr blog add??

YAU MOU GAU….CHOR!!!….MY blog add!!??…..Just click my Name above lah!!! Anyway…..I had added new Topics already……wanna to see your comments too!!!

abu, have you registered your ID before using YAU MOU GAU…CHOR!!!?? Please login yours now.

again….YAU MOU GAU….CHOR!!!

How can you "hijack" other people's sign-off?

Yao Mou Gao…Chor???

If the person is not an employee or related to 1 company. Do you think he knows abt how the co. runs or functioned?? I am not too sure how ur co. runs neither do you know how mr. Nederlander's co. runs. The thing we do is to assume and voice out their view. Speculations and assumption not come with nothing. Atlease mr. Nederlander did not mention that lotus or potong is hiring employee from MARS or they have hire an eight legs freaks as their CEO. thats nothing wrong or right with his assumption nor 'speculation'. Probably one patriotic employee would defend his co. if something abt his co. is not right…truly understandable…Syabas!

To Nederland:

Be 'humble' in your question and expect to be 'bashed' kao kao if u are putting ur view to someone esp. an engineer ok? ur point may not sound harsh but maybe idiotic or probably from ur arsh (smelly?). So please be humble ya…esp. question abt protong and err…lotus?

To MutantTomato:

Exactly right man! but roman still have to sign the cheque to his freak manager if he wants to buy someone worth 21m (worth that?) i think the matter of 'owning' means he still needs to invest to improve the club….make sense ar?

Be cool man! its a blog afterall…harmony we are! YAO MOU GAO……CHOR!!!

I am an R&D engineer in Lotus, why are you so curious?

So if you already predicted that you are going to get "shot kao kao one" why did you still post your comments? I mean, if I knew what I was about to say was total bollocks and people would bash me for that, I am not STUPID to post those comments then, am I?

FYI, I don't love Lotus or Proton so much. I like them only the appropriate amount. But if any of them forks up, ofcourse la I'll bash them as well. What I hate to see are people who don't know their facts, who are talking from their arses, speculate and assume things, and suddenly think they are good enough to become the next CEO of a company. WTF?!?

and now we want to axe LOTUS..

Funny .. maybe POtong has learned everything from Lotus …hehe

Our Malaysian engineer damn smart lot ah?

Hopefully we will see an IMPROV PROTON . eh?

Maybe I am too young to understand a lot of bizness stuffs, could someone please tell me if "Proton now own 100 per cent of Lotus" cited from http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/car-reviews/car-and-driv… plus if lotus dont generate $$, where lotus get $$ for their employees (if i remember correctly that u r one of the employees).

Btw, I am curious wat is ur job position in Lotus since u r oni 24-25 years old. U can choose not to answer is ur right.

Haha! I really predicted u will shot me kao kao one!! So, please inform ur boss (Lotus or Proton) I am a good candidate!! heyhey!! Soon I become new CEO, I will certain promote u coz u love and protect lotus so much! how abt head RnD department?

Also, to you, "THINK, if you are bashing someone else,someone else would bash you instead" Syabas!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if Proton concentrates on making one model until they can hammer down their defective parts per unit until 0.somethingsomething, thus making an excellent car, wouldn't customer confidence will be back? plus with the efficiency of doing something again and again (practice makes perfect, remember?) until it is right, i'm sure one day Proton could make a car that is as reliable as a BMW or a Toyota!

but then of course the idea to build only one car model is quite extreme, but maybe around 2-3 cars, with different model and engine capacity, perhaps may share the same platform or most of the parts inside, thus Proton shall be able to achieve a reasonable level economies of scales.

workers that concentrate on that few work will become better skilled and faster in executing their work. QC ppl would be easily detect defects since it's a routine work with a proper and clear benchmark.

imagine that, higher purchase volume of similar parts, leads to lower cost per unit. highly skilled and efficient workers will lead to lower labour cost because 1) increased productivity, more cars assembled per worker per hour, and 2) less workers are required to accomplish the same amount of jobs. All in all, this should translate to a lower cost per car for Proton.

how they want to position the pricing, is up to them to decide, as long as the car is worthy of the price. not because the cost is such and such so have to price it like this. there is this thing called target costing… i guess the planners in Proton have to re-learn they management accounting stuffs.

Proton is not only a national pride (or shame to some) but it is, for god's sake, A BUSINESS!!! Proton should not think of itself as a badan kebajikan to keep people in jobs and to support other peripheral businesses that is unworthy of surviving. More even so when Proton is facing the prospect that it will soon have to be the one to struggle to live. in business world,if u're unfit, u're a goner. no amount of help and protection can save any business from doom (gulung tikar), both the parts supplier or the main company itself.

For 15 years (until 5 years ago, if i'm not mistaken but do correct me if i'm wrong) Proton has been "learning" from the Japanese (Japanese here does not necessarily only means Mitsubishi), what did they learn? did they actively search for knowledge or did they just sit around waiting to be spoon fed as is our education has always taught us? we all know how Japanese does things… they make sure they can complete one job flawlessly before moving onto the next job. but do we see it incorporated in Proton's work culture? So much for the Look East Policies (Dasar Pandang Ke Timur). the intention's noble but the implementation… err… u komen sendiri-lah…

Proton should axe whichever position that is living off Proton like parasites, i.e lousy parts vendors and manufacturers, and underperforming employees. in times of heavy competition most companies that faced hardships cuts off alot of non-essential subsidiaries and suppliers, initiated lay-offs and retrenchments to stay afloat and focusing, concentrating only on what they does best, and most of them managed to turn around back into profitability.

in other words, we called it core competencies. core competencies is what a company has or does, better or faster or cheaper compared to its competitors. some refers it as an absolute advantage that will attract buyers to choose them over others.

so what is Proton's core competencies? do they have one? if they have none, then it is high time for them to create one for themselves in order to overcome its current problem. Proton needs to stay lean and be focused to do their things right. do what it takes to be fit and competitive, no matter what the costs are. and these costs cant be judged based on the figures and book value alone. there are intangibles as well.

this leads to the goodwills… when they can build a car as reliable as a BMW, Volvo or a Mercedes, and provide equally top-notch services and parts, surely these qualities will travel by words of mouths like fire spreading on dry grass, without having to spend as much on telling the world themselves that they're "TUV certified" or "Das ist Perfekt". it will help rebuilding the brand image and prestige and also restores the pride it once had. put ur action to ur mouth. taglines like "Asia's answer to BMW" and "My first Lotus" are meaningless if u dont have a product that attests to it.

I once read anissue frm autocar asean on lotus's future plan article. On that article they did plan to built the esprit in mysia. Now see this link to know what happends next! http://www.autocar.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=2…

swee:

well i do trading of top gear show frm season 4-6, DVD and VCD. Interested?

two things…First, TM had vision, to develop Proton into this a world player, embracing all the technology in the world. Unfortunately, he was unrealistic. Too ambitious, and the small volume of cars being produced meant the technology wasn't feasible to be used. Ended up losing tonnes of cash.

second, seriously, there are alot of pretty interesting stuff going on behind the scenes. Just hope the new management can reorganise and restructure soon to move the company forward. I think the Malaysian people are tired of waiting already…right? heh

u mean TM mess up whole proton R&D?

i'm glad that they really can built up new models,let us wait or another few yrs

Posted by T.W.O

Posted – 08/11/2005 : 17:46:10

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Well I went and talk to some of my friends in Proton R&D because I'm

buying a Perdana V6 and wanted to make sure that there's no new model

thats coming out in 4 years time (so that my car will still have some

value if i want to sell it later). Here's what he told me…

The Passat as the next Perdana replacement model? pure fantasy, they have

started work on it using their own chasis but it was scrapped when TM

left. It's hard to have a direction as they have no CEO yet. He said if

there's a new CEO maybe a PRM project will get underway, but that'll at

least took 2-3 years.

So I asked him what the latest model thats going to roll out from proton

in 2 years time? He said the closest is the SRM (but that got some

problem that he's not at liberty to say) and IRM (iswara replacement

model). I was pretty suprised at this as he told me about 2 years ago

that Proton are going to keep punching out the current iswara for at

least 10 years which is why they make radical upgrades with the car. I

asked how far is the progress with the IRM prototype, he said they

already have a final design and now testing the car "virtually". And he

said it's a wee bit bigger than a savvy in some area (which i think is

the interior) but he's not at liberty to say more.

MPV, he was pretty excited with the Proton MPV but he said if they ever

built one, Malaysian cant afford to buy it. Why I asked? Simple, it got a

3.5L V6 engine and all aluminum chasis he said. (What kind of an idiot

built a bloody MPV with an all aluminum chasis?!!!) He said it's TM

(Mahalel) idea and they (engineers) just built it. The floorpan and wheel

wells are all cast aluminum which makes the MPV very very light and

pretty quick since the 3.5L engine punches more than 220 horsepower.

Then I said, must still be in design phase right? Nope… there's a full

working prototype at running at the factory (they regularly test the mpv

on the test track just for shits and giggles and it's much much quicker

than any proton models, save the R3 GTi). He cant talk about the

performance detail but he said it's safe to say there's no other MPV in

Msia than can top this one in performance and handlig. How does it look I

ask? He cant go into details but he said it's a lot like the Wish.

And the SRM as most of you guys know, is planned for release in Q1 in 06

but it could be delayed up till June.

And I ask about if there's any SUV model in the works? None…

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