Comments on: Hyundai and Kia to get new vehicle styling http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Wed, 23 May 2012 16:46:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: shaymen http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-30222 shaymen Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:16:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-30222 alaaaaa...what's the fuss??malaysian r stupid..even the ultra ugly kia sephia also malaysian buy. alaaaaa…what's the fuss??malaysian r stupid..even the ultra ugly kia sephia also malaysian buy.

]]> By: i l0VeD c@r http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-30022 i l0VeD c@r Sun, 01 Jan 2006 12:54:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-30022 ...the exterior look very 'CLASS' and its exterior much better than the old sonata …the exterior look very 'CLASS' and its exterior much better than the old sonata

]]> By: AnotherProtonBasher http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-29689 AnotherProtonBasher Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:45:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-29689 totally agreed with PBâ„¢, those korean cars are cheap car desiginated, even after the crazy tax, they can be sold almost as same as protong, it's will be a major rip-off if u buy korean cars that priced almost similar to protong. It's only happen in Bolehland (Does this country exist? I try google, yahoo. msn, tmnet, cannot find this country) where 3rd class cars r being sold at 1st class price (this statement sounds familiar). totally agreed with PBâ„¢, those korean cars are cheap car desiginated, even after the crazy tax, they can be sold almost as same as protong, it's will be a major rip-off if u buy korean cars that priced almost similar to protong. It's only happen in Bolehland (Does this country exist? I try google, yahoo. msn, tmnet, cannot find this country) where 3rd class cars r being sold at 1st class price (this statement sounds familiar).

]]> By: BOYRACER http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-29400 BOYRACER Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:36:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-29400 If you compare the looks of the new Sonata with our local assembled Accord,then i say the Sonata wins.But if you look at the Euro Accord,the Euro Accord wins hands down. just my 2 cents worth. cheerios If you compare the looks of the new Sonata with our local assembled Accord,then i say the Sonata wins.But if you look at the Euro Accord,the Euro Accord wins hands down.

just my 2 cents worth.

cheerios

]]> By: Man http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-29229 Man Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:38:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-29229 Beware!!! if Proton bankrupt, the other assemblers will suddenly raise the price of their cars and bring in low quality cars.... Beware!!! if Proton bankrupt, the other assemblers will suddenly raise the price of their cars and bring in low quality cars….

]]> By: see fat http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-29147 see fat Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:23:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-29147 the spectra is actually an old model, carried over from the sephia...they just chg the front lamps blablabla and calls it the spectra...in the old days, can see lotsa of spectra, but after the vios and city came out, virtually no sight of these stupid cars...people can get a much better japanese vios for only couple of thousand extra, who want to buy korean car? the new sonata is even worse than the old model..the older model looks at least like a jaquar, unfortunately the new model tried to copy the honda accord's rear end, JUST AT THE SAME TIME HONDA DECODED TO GET RID OF THEIR LAMP DESIGN!! the spectra is actually an old model, carried over from the sephia…they just chg the front lamps blablabla and calls it the spectra…in the old days, can see lotsa of spectra, but after the vios and city came out, virtually no sight of these stupid cars…people can get a much better japanese vios for only couple of thousand extra, who want to buy korean car?

the new sonata is even worse than the old model..the older model looks at least like a jaquar, unfortunately the new model tried to copy the honda accord's rear end, JUST AT THE SAME TIME HONDA DECODED TO GET RID OF THEIR LAMP DESIGN!!

]]> By: martin http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28911 martin Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:35:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28911 i walk in to hyundai showroom, they have receiving booking for this model alredi. selling RM 164K for the only model 2.4....they have another model 3.3 selling RM220K i walk in to hyundai showroom, they have receiving booking for this model alredi. selling RM 164K for the only model 2.4….they have another model 3.3 selling RM220K

]]> By: albagmane http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28814 albagmane Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:26:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28814 yeah.. look at that sonata's rear! totally similar to the accord's.. well, if this both korean companies can be serious on their own design, i do believe they have the potential to be the world's car dominators.. by tat time, proton may be bankrupted.. if so, this will be the good news for most malaysians.. yeah.. look at that sonata's rear! totally similar to the accord's..

well, if this both korean companies can be serious on their own design, i do believe they have the potential to be the world's car dominators.. by tat time, proton may be bankrupted.. if so, this will be the good news for most malaysians..

]]> By: [Half-Half PBâ http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28778 [Half-Half PBâ Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:06:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28778 see fat taikoh... what do u expect from a cheap car? (spectra was designed, built and marketed as cheap car but only sold as expensive car in Bolehland) see fat taikoh… what do u expect from a cheap car? (spectra was designed, built and marketed as cheap car but only sold as expensive car in Bolehland)

]]> By: see fat http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28768 see fat Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:03:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28768 soory, but kia/hyundai quality sukks...my brother bought a kia spectra 1.6, the door alarm mechanism jammed AFTER JUST 2 WEEKS...the dash vibrates...vely bad same as potong, maybe slightly (bitter) only soory, but kia/hyundai quality sukks…my brother bought a kia spectra 1.6, the door alarm mechanism jammed AFTER JUST 2 WEEKS…the dash vibrates…vely bad same as potong, maybe slightly (bitter) only

]]> By: nohiddenagenda http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28744 nohiddenagenda Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:37:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28744 one thing i always admire about malaysian, they alwast want the best, in almost everything from other people to achieve or to provide for them. but i'm not sure they themself are which one in the following: 1. the best 2. trying very hard to be the best 3. trying oklah to be the best 4. want to be the best, some daylah, not now 5. want the best, and together hope to achieve the best 6. don't care about other as long as i got the best 7. don't care about me, but u must do the best for me ... ... x. bolehlah attituded y. boleh blah as for me, tak payah ceritalah... masing-masing sendiri tahu diri masing-masing. u can lie others, but can u lie to yourself? something people can. how amazing... --- one thing i always admire about malaysian, they alwast want the best, in almost everything from other people to achieve or to provide for them.

but i'm not sure they themself are which one in the following:

1. the best

2. trying very hard to be the best

3. trying oklah to be the best

4. want to be the best, some daylah, not now

5. want the best, and together hope to achieve the best

6. don't care about other as long as i got the best

7. don't care about me, but u must do the best for me

…

…

x. bolehlah attituded

y. boleh blah

as for me, tak payah ceritalah… masing-masing sendiri tahu diri masing-masing. u can lie others, but can u lie to yourself? something people can. how amazing…

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]]> By: Man http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28712 Man Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:05:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28712 Kia dan Hyundai memang pandai tiru kereta lain.. depan kereta X, belakang kereta Y Kia dan Hyundai memang pandai tiru kereta lain.. depan kereta X, belakang kereta Y

]]> By: anonymous 17 http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28627 anonymous 17 Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:33:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28627 that's good. hyundai and kia are taking a good step to stay competitive in the car manufacturing. bila proton nak buktikan yg mereka ada identiti sendiri tanpa perlu meniru model kereta lain? teringin aku nak tengok wira dan saga yg berbentuk baru & berkualiti. that's good. hyundai and kia are taking a good step to stay competitive in the car manufacturing. bila proton nak buktikan yg mereka ada identiti sendiri tanpa perlu meniru model kereta lain? teringin aku nak tengok wira dan saga yg berbentuk baru & berkualiti.

]]> By: my_YARIS http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28599 my_YARIS Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:37:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28599 to me I believe tt P1 obviously r capable of producing gd cars & models.. all r human, they sure can do tt.. nothing less nothing more just human. I do agree that V6 is nicer & macho than Sonata. But thn a Sonata looks like a boss car with executive look, class. V6 to me is like 3 Series.. superb & youthful looking... doesnt suits bosses out there.. its like entry level to new standard. Thus, I say P1 can design a executive look car (not de waja or chansellor) to cope de std wit new sonata, accord & camry.. P1 has many car model from entry level to senior executive but no model to suit wht we call for boss level.. Ask urself tt if u being ur own boss, u wld take Sonata, Accord or Camry at least at 70% probablity or a current V6? V6 to me bcos of de $ tag at RM100K make ppl think its executive look car but it is not.. it just like a Mitsu Evo model.. cater for younger generation.. to me I believe tt P1 obviously r capable of producing gd cars & models.. all r human, they sure can do tt.. nothing less nothing more just human. I do agree that V6 is nicer & macho than Sonata. But thn a Sonata looks like a boss car with executive look, class. V6 to me is like 3 Series.. superb & youthful looking… doesnt suits bosses out there.. its like entry level to new standard.

Thus, I say P1 can design a executive look car (not de waja or chansellor) to cope de std wit new sonata, accord & camry.. P1 has many car model from entry level to senior executive but no model to suit wht we call for boss level..

Ask urself tt if u being ur own boss, u wld take Sonata, Accord or Camry at least at 70% probablity or a current V6? V6 to me bcos of de $ tag at RM100K make ppl think its executive look car but it is not.. it just like a Mitsu Evo model.. cater for younger generation..

]]> By: Twoxer Hayzen http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28537 Twoxer Hayzen Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:18:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28537 Agreed Honda Driver, Look how some years ago big bumps were all the rave among car designers... Agreed Honda Driver,

Look how some years ago big bumps were all the rave among car designers…

]]> By: honda_driver http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28529 honda_driver Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:31:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28529 very good comments Twoxer Hayzen. but on the contention that this car company copy that car company.. its very hard to quantify that la. IMHO, there is not such thing as 100% original design. everything is copied from some past experience somehow. the only difference is, teh skill of the designer to weave all those "common" elements together to make something "new" that works for its intended purpose. very good comments Twoxer Hayzen.

but on the contention that this car company copy that car company.. its very hard to quantify that la. IMHO, there is not such thing as 100% original design. everything is copied from some past experience somehow. the only difference is, teh skill of the designer to weave all those "common" elements together to make something "new" that works for its intended purpose.

]]> By: Twoxer Hayzen http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28524 Twoxer Hayzen Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:23:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28524 Razib, If we were to measure success or progress merely by the quantitative aspects, Republic Czech's Skoda would be miles ahead of many other carmakers. It would also mean the Holden marque, an Australian car of the sixties and seventies was a success. Today Holdens are merely re-badged Suzukis and Toyotas. Just because a car company has designed its own cars does not mean its a success. In this globalised world, personally I wouldn't say any company is a global company unless it achieves significant market share in each of the continents. The Koreans are actually in every continent, and in Europe their cars are well spoken of. PROTONs are available in many countries, although the countries are not significant. Turkey, Nepal, and in Britain, they did much better re-bagding Mitsubishis then they did with Gen.2. I do believe they are on the right track though, meaning yes, design capability is a quantum leap that brings about national pride and also cost advantages. But quality is what counts. We fall flat on this aspect. Again, we're doing the right things; TUV and classification of vendors and the like. Its a mountain to climb, but the good news is we're already climbing it. Razib,

If we were to measure success or progress merely by the quantitative aspects, Republic Czech's Skoda would be miles ahead of many other carmakers.

It would also mean the Holden marque, an Australian car of the sixties and seventies was a success. Today Holdens are merely re-badged Suzukis and Toyotas.

Just because a car company has designed its own cars does not mean its a success.

In this globalised world, personally I wouldn't say any company is a global company unless it achieves significant market share in each of the continents. The Koreans are actually in every continent, and in Europe their cars are well spoken of.

PROTONs are available in many countries, although the countries are not significant. Turkey, Nepal, and in Britain, they did much better re-bagding Mitsubishis then they did with Gen.2.

I do believe they are on the right track though, meaning yes, design capability is a quantum leap that brings about national pride and also cost advantages.

But quality is what counts. We fall flat on this aspect.

Again, we're doing the right things; TUV and classification of vendors and the like.

Its a mountain to climb, but the good news is we're already climbing it.

]]> By: Mohd Razib Zainal http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28518 Mohd Razib Zainal Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:59:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28518 Baru nak belajar design sendiri ke..Selama ni cut & paste sahaja....? Atleast PROTONG dah design sendiri......Macam tu beli satu kereta korea boleh dapat 10 kereta jenama lain lah ye..... Baru nak belajar design sendiri ke..Selama ni cut & paste sahaja….? Atleast PROTONG dah design sendiri……Macam tu beli satu kereta korea boleh dapat 10 kereta jenama lain lah ye…..

]]> By: Michael Chua http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28504 Michael Chua Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:54:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28504 Korean cars are definitely no tin can. Take the Hyundai Getz for example. It weighs 1.2 tons for crying out loud. That's very heavy for a supermini. That's why its fuel-efficiency is not so fantastic. Afterall, its weighty proportions are meant primarily for the European market. Korean cars are definitely no tin can. Take the Hyundai Getz for example. It weighs 1.2 tons for crying out loud. That's very heavy for a supermini. That's why its fuel-efficiency is not so fantastic. Afterall, its weighty proportions are meant primarily for the European market.

]]> By: Jay http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28488 Jay Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:40:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28488 Nice...i've seen one in puchong lately...bearing a singapore plate number. Very nice. Better looking than the current Accord. But i'm not sure on the maintanence though. The previous Sonata was more towards the older generation...this one is a BOM to the new comers. Price should be competitive though. Well done Sonata Body shell should be rigid... This car will give Accord & Camry a run for their money Life is all about trial & error ! Proton cepatlah......try to come up with a newly designed Perdana V6, Wira, Waja, Iswara. Pls if you're reading this article at all.....do have dual airbags & abs as standard accessories. Nor forgotten the body structure......must be strong....should conduct crash test ....... must acheive 5 star...no excuses. Then only people will have trust in our cars... Can we do it ? Nice…i've seen one in puchong lately…bearing a singapore plate number. Very nice. Better looking than the current Accord. But i'm not sure on the maintanence though.

The previous Sonata was more towards the older generation…this one is a BOM to the new comers.

Price should be competitive though. Well done Sonata

Body shell should be rigid…

This car will give Accord & Camry a run for their money

Life is all about trial & error !

Proton cepatlah……try to come up with a newly designed Perdana V6, Wira, Waja, Iswara.

Pls if you're reading this article at all…..do have dual airbags & abs as standard accessories. Nor forgotten the body structure……must be strong….should conduct crash test ……. must acheive 5 star…no excuses. Then only people will have trust in our cars…

Can we do it ?

]]> By: Me http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28469 Me Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:13:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28469 hyundai and kia is not bad to actually - re-design or re-innovate based on their other brand "honda, jaguar, lexus and more..." but still, they are not compromise its performance and quality, thumbs up~! hyundai and kia is not bad to actually – re-design or re-innovate based on their other brand "honda, jaguar, lexus and more…"

but still, they are not compromise its performance and quality, thumbs up~!

]]> By: acokia http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28445 acokia Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:15:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28445 i think i better put twin exhaust pipes for my accord 2.4l, very chun i think i better put twin exhaust pipes for my accord 2.4l, very chun

]]> By: Flizzardo http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28424 Flizzardo Wed, 21 Dec 2005 00:48:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28424 is it me or kia spectra looks like saab lol... is it me or kia spectra looks like saab lol…

]]> By: pr1 pr2 sux http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28410 pr1 pr2 sux Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:42:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28410 yeap if only proton were to take customers more seriously like naza im sure they can win customers but nooo they jz cant .....their after sales n customer service sux so badly i give them 1/10 yeap if only proton were to take customers more seriously like naza im sure they can win customers but nooo they jz cant …..their after sales n customer service sux so badly i give them 1/10

]]> By: Twoxer Hayzen http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28391 Twoxer Hayzen Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:29:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28391 Its noteworthy for me to quote Fumihiko Minami, the CEO of Mitusbishi Motors Malaysia, who spoke at the launch of a Mitsubishi showroon in Taipan USJ today. "We see in Malaysia competition from Korea is getting stiffer. We think the Chinese will take a few more years to come up to mark". The Japanese, in this case troubled Mitsubishi reckons The Koreans are a threat. And 4G63T is right e-Nabill... the Koreans are fast catching up, especially Hyundai. Kia has now gotten their design factors better, but quality still suspect. As I said in my earlier posts, I've given up on PROTON until they can prove they are worth the money. That's a good point someone made about the Citra being RM20k cheaper than the Perdana V6, with better quality, more seats and passive safety features. Its noteworthy for me to quote Fumihiko Minami, the CEO of Mitusbishi Motors Malaysia, who spoke at the launch of a Mitsubishi showroon in Taipan USJ today.

"We see in Malaysia competition from Korea is getting stiffer. We think the Chinese will take a few more years to come up to mark".

The Japanese, in this case troubled Mitsubishi reckons The Koreans are a threat.

And 4G63T is right e-Nabill… the Koreans are fast catching up, especially Hyundai. Kia has now gotten their design factors better, but quality still suspect.

As I said in my earlier posts, I've given up on PROTON until they can prove they are worth the money.

That's a good point someone made about the Citra being RM20k cheaper than the Perdana V6, with better quality, more seats and passive safety features.

]]> By: Isamu http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28385 Isamu Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:16:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28385 My brother just bought a brand new Kia Pregio. Within weeks of delivery, the weatherstrip on the front left-hand-side door has peeled off. The list does not end there. If it is not because of the high price of Toyota Hiace (RM100K..!!), the Pregio would never have been bought. My dad drives a 2002 Kia Carnival, CBU Korea. Mileage is less than 25,000 km but the cockpit is making lot's of noise. Even the ignition cables have been replaced. If not for the steep price of the Estima, my dad would never have bought the Carnival. Oh, by the way, it was my mom who didn't allow my dad to buy the Estima.. :) I'm not sure about Hyundai quality, but if you ask me about Kia quality, it's still a suspect.. Maybe they are just better than Proton. If China is the King of Copying, then Korea is definitely the Prince of Copying. The only difference is that those smug Chinese car-makers copies the whole car as opposed to the Korean way of copying by chunks. My brother just bought a brand new Kia Pregio. Within weeks of delivery, the weatherstrip on the front left-hand-side door has peeled off. The list does not end there. If it is not because of the high price of Toyota Hiace (RM100K..!!), the Pregio would never have been bought.

My dad drives a 2002 Kia Carnival, CBU Korea. Mileage is less than 25,000 km but the cockpit is making lot's of noise. Even the ignition cables have been replaced. If not for the steep price of the Estima, my dad would never have bought the Carnival. Oh, by the way, it was my mom who didn't allow my dad to buy the Estima.. :)

I'm not sure about Hyundai quality, but if you ask me about Kia quality, it's still a suspect.. Maybe they are just better than Proton.

If China is the King of Copying, then Korea is definitely the Prince of Copying. The only difference is that those smug Chinese car-makers copies the whole car as opposed to the Korean way of copying by chunks.

]]> By: shai http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28366 shai Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:12:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28366 Aiyyoo, mitsu....thanks for the critics...sory I don't take Perdagangan. Aku budak Sastera la. I just jot down some of my view about Naza and its contribution to the economics and yet you go criticize me about my lack of knowledge in economic. I don't want to speak about all the macro econnomics impact of Naza towards Malaysia for the reason of unavalibality of data and facts. But afaik, Naza open up a car factory, giving out thousands of job opportunity, provide a chances for automotive vendors- this is what I'am talking about. I respect your view on the topics and I know they are better way in educating people about your economics knowledge, please share with us. Yang indah itu Budi, Yg baik itu Bahasa. Aiyyoo, mitsu….thanks for the critics…sory I don't take Perdagangan. Aku budak Sastera la.

I just jot down some of my view about Naza and its contribution to the economics and yet you go criticize me about my lack of knowledge in economic.

I don't want to speak about all the macro econnomics impact of Naza towards Malaysia for the reason of unavalibality of data and facts.

But afaik, Naza open up a car factory, giving out thousands of job opportunity, provide a chances for automotive vendors- this is what I'am talking about.

I respect your view on the topics and I know they are better way in educating people about your economics knowledge, please share with us.

Yang indah itu Budi, Yg baik itu Bahasa.

]]> By: 4G63T http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28329 4G63T Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:33:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28329 Mitsu, You are comparing a Kia Optima/Magentis to a Jaguar and BMW? You must be joking right? You want identity then you pay for it. As for the Citra, What do you really from expect a 2.0L engine'd MPV that costs $79k. The older Perdana costs $25k more....and its no better than the Kia Optima. Seriously, as expensive as cars are here, I would gladly TRADE identity for value. But who knows, maybe you can afford a Jaguar or BMW, since your expectations are so high. Mitsu,

You are comparing a Kia Optima/Magentis to a Jaguar and BMW?

You must be joking right? You want identity then you pay for it.

As for the Citra, What do you really from expect a 2.0L engine'd MPV that costs $79k. The older Perdana costs $25k more….and its no better than the Kia Optima.

Seriously, as expensive as cars are here, I would gladly TRADE identity for value.

But who knows, maybe you can afford a Jaguar or BMW, since your expectations are so high.

]]> By: mitsu_galant http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28308 mitsu_galant Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:18:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28308 Talking about hyundai + Kia back. Yep.. seems they all lack of identity. about identity, i think that our Proton is more better by than they. because at least proton already had small identity = Lampu look alike Mata . even Lotus Europa launched = some people (not in malaysia, but in europe also) . Thy said = thats lamp similiar to proton!. And many more thing unreveiled too .. I saw kia Optima, yess good, spacious , business class.. but POOR. no identity yet like Jaguar, BMW, etc.. +++ Naza pasang kereta kia karen = naza citra? nampak buruk dan murah Citra antaranya dashboard plastik murah dan lampu belakang yang pakai Plastik murah!.. Talking about hyundai + Kia back.

Yep.. seems they all lack of identity.

about identity, i think that our Proton is more better by than they.

because at least proton already had small identity = Lampu look alike Mata .

even Lotus Europa launched = some people (not in malaysia, but in europe also) . Thy said = thats lamp similiar to proton!. And many more thing unreveiled too ..

I saw kia Optima, yess good, spacious , business class.. but POOR. no identity yet like Jaguar, BMW, etc..

+++ Naza pasang kereta kia karen = naza citra? nampak buruk dan murah Citra antaranya dashboard plastik murah dan lampu belakang yang pakai Plastik murah!..

]]> By: mitsu_galant http://paultan.org/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28306 mitsu_galant Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:11:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/19/hyundai-and-kia-to-get-new-vehicle-styling/#comment-28306 shai .. u totaally out of economic knowledge i think. To much IMPORT is bad for the country.. but if you said it's good for you. it's fine. But for the long term, Ringgit will lose NILAI = inflation . Export is good, more KDNK (Keluaran dalam negara kasar ) that's mean = Much money come into our country, that make ringgit high value and u can buy more stuff with a little money then. Talking about inflation, too much thing relate, but this only a few of them. IF, proton/P2 can sell more car to outside. bring back so much money to malaysia . For the time being. We're only almost biggest Minyak sawit exporter. thats bring lots of money into malaysia. others is tourism. The car do not have so much impact yet.. Shai, its hard for you to understand rite? . EASY . Which one is better? Selling product and got lot of money or : Just buy Products? Go back. bukak buku teks Perdagangan tingkatan 5. ;) shai .. u totaally out of economic knowledge i think.

To much IMPORT is bad for the country.. but if you said it's good for you. it's fine. But for the long term, Ringgit will lose NILAI = inflation .

Export is good, more KDNK (Keluaran dalam negara kasar ) that's mean = Much money come into our country, that make ringgit high value and u can buy more stuff with a little money then.

Talking about inflation, too much thing relate, but this only a few of them.

IF, proton/P2 can sell more car to outside. bring back so much money to malaysia .

For the time being. We're only almost biggest Minyak sawit exporter. thats bring lots of money into malaysia. others is tourism. The car do not have so much impact yet..

Shai, its hard for you to understand rite? . EASY .

Which one is better? Selling product and got lot of money or :

Just buy Products? Go back. bukak buku teks Perdagangan tingkatan 5. ;)

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