Comments on: Proton-VW Tie-up Updates

By: Badrul

Badrul — Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:25:57 +0000

It's all Dr M and Tengku Mahaleel's fault . Blame this on them . Those scumbacks really ruin Proton. Sue them!!!!!!

By: ZUKIMAN

ZUKIMAN — Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:52:54 +0000

KOMEN IKHLAS UNTUK PROTON…

PROTON TIDAK BERANI BERUBAH. SEMUA PEMBUAT KERETA DI DUNIA TELAH MENGALAMI REVOLUSI REKAAN BODY KERETA DAN JUGA KECANGGIHAN ENJIN.. PROTON BILA LAGI??

WAJA MEMANG HEBAT TETAPI KURANG MENYENGAT..

By: muthu

muthu — Wed, 04 Jan 2006 09:18:48 +0000

ello brader TM…….

if U have ideas, i think u dont have time 2 waste your time KUTUK others in this BLOG….. you should busy manage your company……. ahak ahak god should punish U……

By: muthu

muthu — Wed, 04 Jan 2006 09:04:31 +0000

ello braderTM

it's up 2 U la……. what ever U want 2 say…… may be u R 55% stake holder in certain company due 2 U have a lot of ideas…… i hope the co u running is not pisang goreng stall……. ahak ahak ahak ahak…… may god damn U

By: TM

TM — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:07:15 +0000

There goes Muthu again, letting his trap off without any semblance of knowledge. Again, that is why he still drives a PROTON.

Its amazing how he and that Engine Code guy believes everything the mainstream media plugs to them; they're what marketers call "followers".

On the flip side, there are "innovators". Those who present new ideas or thoughts to stimulate discussion. But followers tend to be follow-me types or also-ran types. Rarely intelligent.

Muthu is an extreme follower. Problem is, as someone blogged earlier, to be a good leader you must be a good follower. Hence, Muthu will remain a follower, destined not to ever lead.

By: muthu

muthu — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:05:43 +0000

-weih 4G93, ko ni mmg la BODOH SOMBONG. tau pon nak buat small engine susah, tau pon skang proton design kereta sendiri. pasal tu la proton dulu beli mv agusta, bengong! pastu skang proton jual balik mv agusta ko sokong ek. ko ni mmg la sama bodoh mcm proton.

——- ello brader

in investment we call this technique as CUT LOSS…… if we think that our investment is LUGI so much money better throw it be4 we loss more…… if u said PROTON people bangang jual MVA, so Y not u buy it…. the price only 1 euro…… mulah. 4 those stupid will say " my father can buy la but his/her father can absorb the LUGI"……..

cq out this news and go to bussiness about VW N proton
http://www.bernama.com.my/

By: muthu

muthu — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:47:19 +0000

HANG JEBAT said,

December 31, 2005 @ 4:56 am

SEE NO COMMENTS FROM THIS SO CALL PATRIOTIC GUY YET, ONLY THE AGREE WITH U BRADER GUYâ€¦

ahak ahak ahak……. new year EVE brader…… balik keje awal….. PARTY time……

By: Long Dong Silver

Long Dong Silver — Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:37:48 +0000

I am not buying any VW cars if it is produced by the same monkeys in proton factory.

By: [Half-Half PBâ

[Half-Half PBâ — Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:57:43 +0000

wow, biggie, do u really need to copy and paste ur words accross the whole blog?

By: biggie

biggie — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:37:23 +0000

i actually a little sad that Proton changing its direction when it matters. as Proton do have a line up of 'own' cars now rather then rebadged car. In fact I look fwd then to 2006 where Proton concentrate on niche market (young sporty) and leave the rest to P2/Naza. Drop the rebadge model … or ask someone to mfr for them e.g. Indon or DRB. and concentrate on improving own model Waja/Gen2/Savvy

Whatever spare capacity it has then should be use by VW and Mitsu. Thus volume is not a factor anymore.

Else we have many bland looking cars on the road.. one that rightly blown up by Jeremy.

Btw MV Augusta purchase do not give any significant returns as P1 or TM busy with boardroom tussle and do not have the time to look into how relationhip betwen P1 and MV Augusta should be conducted.

Happy New Year.

By: rexis

rexis — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:12:03 +0000

happy new year 2006 to P1 n P2 and also everybody here.

By: bummerboy

bummerboy — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:00:03 +0000

you know what? fiat and proton should get together!

By: Marmitecrab

Marmitecrab — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:06:13 +0000

Happy New Year to Paul and fellow bloggers.

If I offended anyone, too bad because I'm going carry it on till the next year!

By: dksh1892

dksh1892 — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:27:23 +0000

wah….pagi pagi dah panggil orang bengok…auds adus!.. =p anyways.. hope everything turns out well with our national car industry be in proton or perodua or whoever.,..but i am seeing really really big progresses from Naza… whoa… might overtake proton and perodua in no. of sales sooner or later eh? =S

anyhos… HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! =D

By: HANG JEBAT

HANG JEBAT — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 04:56:14 +0000

SEE NO COMMENTS FROM THIS SO CALL PATRIOTIC GUY YET, ONLY THE AGREE WITH U BRADER GUY…

By: toolan

toolan — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:58:58 +0000

4G93-SC said,

December 30, 2005 @ 10:13 pm

U should know that its hard to do the smll engine thats y P1 takes the Renault engineâ€¦.

4G93-SC said,

December 28, 2005 @ 11:52 pm

Do u guys agreed with me..? Only P1 is doing their best and not trying to copy frm anybody else to produce our national carâ€¦.Besides the Saga n Wiraâ€¦ FYI, MMC and japanese has stolen on our ppl designâ€¦..Thats y they said our design is oldâ€¦FYI, when we collaborate with MMC, there hv a lots of barriers in decision making for the mgt of P1â€¦.when we are not with MMC, from there we do lots of designâ€¦..Likes Gen2, Savvyâ€¦.

4G93-SC said,

December 30, 2005 @ 10:13 pm

A good decision to release all stake inside MV Agusta. Luckily its was 1 year Proton was involved in MV Agusta. Thus they got the technology but their core business is more on car. A big applause for P1.

ko igt br setahun pegang mv agusta dah dpt teknologi?? teknologi hape? buat engine kecik? abis kalo dapat nape beli engine savvy ngn renault? teknologi hape? design kereta? ko igt setahun sempat ke nak design kereta sampai siap? toyota pon amek masa 2 thn, br skang nak jd setahun.

ko ni memalukan diri sendiri jek.

By: gegaoff

gegaoff — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:13:14 +0000

VW no more insist to take charge to PROTON? emm… that's bad, at least so far what i know….but hopefully the venture can be deal asap. then new mgt can have improvement on PROTON. no more pumping money by govt becoz is a GLC… very cheap…

cheers…

By: maman

maman — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:16:33 +0000

its good to know that any small positive step proton takes towards creating a better car for us.. is being condemn by a majority of forumers.

if u guys know so much about manufacturing a car and keeping costs down, why dont round up a thousand of like mind share holders. start a company and see if u can even do what lotus is doing. a cheap/excelent handling sports car. u all can source the engine from petronas. a high revving,200 bhp 2.0 litre na dohc engine… then see if u are able to keep costs down while trying to build a decent car.

i do hope the talk with vw gets through and we see a locally built proton/vw with vw quality in it… it would be like tata benz and daimler in the past…

By: blackhead

blackhead — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:00:08 +0000

as long as proton dont change the owner i cant see his bright future as car industrial

By: [Half-Half PBâ

[Half-Half PBâ — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:51:10 +0000

we wait n see, but hatuk predicts, nothing special will turn up, and it'll be business as usual….

By: Handsfree

Handsfree — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:12:12 +0000

Guys… let be SABAR…Proton knows what are they doing…. either go with VW or multiply gangs….

If a few yr later… account proven good.. then ppl will say.. Proton made the SUPER decision…

If after a few yr it failed.. badly.. athe whole country brand n image will follow the lonkang… to South China Sea……

Really hope.. some TOP GUN in Proton is looking into our worries n care toward our own face……

By: bye

bye — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:48:04 +0000

proton is made of cheap and expensive parts.

Cheap products (that is why it falls apart) sold to proton at expensive prices. (so more profits to ppl personal who appointed the suppliers)

By: Isamu

Isamu — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:18:37 +0000

Proton Kumbang..

By: cyrixMX

cyrixMX — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:41:23 +0000

who said conti car parts are expensive eh?

Citroen ZX – drive shaft RM420

Proton Wira – drive shaft RM550

Honda Civic – drive shaft RM500

Citroen ZX – hub bearing – RM110 with 1 year warranty

Proton wira – hub bearing – RM80 cap ayam no warranty

Honda Civic – hub bearing – RM75 cap ayam no warranty

Citroen ZX – oil filer – RM12 made in italy

Proton wira – oil filter – RM8 cap ayam made belakang rumah

Honda Civic – oil filter – RM9 made in malaysia, cap honda

Judge yourselves :p

By: honda_driver

honda_driver — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:23:47 +0000

lawyer, if you really are a lawyer, your info seems a little thin. dont you think the govt has no idea what goes on in proton? with more than 50% share in the whole company, they are the ones who practically run the show i think. The ex-CEO, or whoever is leading is hired, and can be fired. its the "lucky vendors" who continue to mess up that seem to be "untouchable".

By: muthu

muthu — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:45:18 +0000

happy new year…….

By: abu_adam05

abu_adam05 — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:39:21 +0000

hmmm… if we have a model base on VW let say Passat Gen3, what would happen to the after sales thing like services, spare parts etc.. we in M'sia had this perception that any conti car sure expenses to maintain. I don't coz I never owned a conti car..

By: Lawyer

Lawyer — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:36:49 +0000

Proton should consider taking legal action for those making bad investments ie. TM or his cronies previously. Its a national interest so any major business decision must be reported to cabinet or parliament, n not later bringing the shits after the deal went bad. No freehand management style which producing bad cars that people hate it.

By: muthu

muthu — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:36:08 +0000

Man said,

December 30, 2005 @ 12:38 pm

Sell only 20% to VW. Remember honda had only 20% in Rover, but what …….

ello brader…. proton want to become a main share holder, so they R decision maker ma…….

By: pycazu

pycazu — Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:22:59 +0000

Anyway, this poem quite a new interesting thing here, at least better than just bashing only.

Proton at least finally made 2 right decisions now, let go the troublemsome MV Agusta and continue to talk with VW.

btw, just wonder why need to discuss it in Bangkok, something naughty under table can't talk openly here isn't? Closed door discussion in bolehland no one ever know oso mah!

Then, P1 couldn't manage well when affliated with Mitsu b4 but thinking to go for multiparties cooperation, they got mental problem meh! Seriously speaking it would just making things worst only. More partners mean less effort work-out but keep talking (bullshit).