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		<title>By: MageP&#8217;s Lab &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mahaleel hits out at Proton</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-33428</link>
		<dc:creator>MageP&#8217;s Lab &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mahaleel hits out at Proton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On January 4, former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad and ex-CEO of Proton Tengku Mahaleel Tengku Ariff has came out with a joint statement regarding the sales of M.V. Augusta at one Euro by Proton, demanding an explanation which was later denied by Proton. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On January 4, former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad and ex-CEO of Proton Tengku Mahaleel Tengku Ariff has came out with a joint statement regarding the sales of M.V. Augusta at one Euro by Proton, demanding an explanation which was later denied by Proton. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: paramsingwalia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31755</link>
		<dc:creator>paramsingwalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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neversoft said,

January 14, 2006 @ 10:38 am

Hey this paramsingvwalia is â€œMuthuâ€ nickname. Wheres de wht 4g13p?

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what are u talking about aaaaa...

cakap..cakap....tut...kenapa kau tak cakap ....tut...</description>
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neversoft said,</p>
<p>January 14, 2006 @ 10:38 am</p>
<p>Hey this paramsingvwalia is â€œMuthuâ€ nickname. Wheres de wht 4g13p?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
what are u talking about aaaaa&#8230;</p>
<p>cakap..cakap&#8230;.tut&#8230;kenapa kau tak cakap &#8230;.tut&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shaymen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31695</link>
		<dc:creator>shaymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HatukNgkau said,
January 9, 2006 @ 10:20 pm
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ive said the essay are fictional because u dont know what ur talking about...u just cut n paste it from anywhere u find on the internet...dont know if its true or not....why cant we ask proton to give an answer to us,be transparent.dont do anything fishy bcos we are the taxpayer.its a simple thing to do if proton dont wanna hide something from us.....
paul made it hard because of the ppl writing essay here la i think...buat serabut tempat ni ajer..</description>
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January 9, 2006 @ 10:20 pm<br />
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ive said the essay are fictional because u dont know what ur talking about&#8230;u just cut n paste it from anywhere u find on the internet&#8230;dont know if its true or not&#8230;.why cant we ask proton to give an answer to us,be transparent.dont do anything fishy bcos we are the taxpayer.its a simple thing to do if proton dont wanna hide something from us&#8230;..<br />
paul made it hard because of the ppl writing essay here la i think&#8230;buat serabut tempat ni ajer..</p>
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		<title>By: neversoft</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31585</link>
		<dc:creator>neversoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey this paramsingvwalia is &quot;Muthu&quot; nickname. Wheres de wht 4g13p?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey this paramsingvwalia is &#8220;Muthu&#8221; nickname. Wheres de wht 4g13p?</p>
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		<title>By: paramsingwalia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31407</link>
		<dc:creator>paramsingwalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now lets those glc&#039;s be transparent pls?we as rakyat should be pressing for this..not oppose this...like those few here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now lets those glc&#8217;s be transparent pls?we as rakyat should be pressing for this..not oppose this&#8230;like those few here.</p>
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		<title>By: paramsingwalia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31406</link>
		<dc:creator>paramsingwalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By buying in the technological company is the easiest way to obtain their proprietory technical knowhow. Euro 70Million for Augusta is cheaper than and more polite way of obtaining the designs knowhow and secretcy rather than sending spy as what have the Japanese T company to steal the designs from America C company in early 70&#039;s and facing a lawsuit for copy right issues. The same goes to Taiwan technology company who employ ex-Cornnings design engineer and fall into the copyright lawsuits on glass processing for LCD display.
We buy it, means we owned it. We owned it, means we can make it. Is todays terms as technological transfer. More officials, The tangible saving is indefinate compared to lawsuits which will cause more millions of Euros if doing it unpolitely.
As since the 1997 finiancial crisis, the Korean company have been rise up so fast and make their appearence in the market strongly were due to this techniques. LG twinning/buying into Hitachi for DVD Writers Technology, Samsung is partnering with Toshiba, BenQ partnering with Philips, IBM sold their manufacturing business to the Chinese, and so on..., but Proton new management did not see this, and make their wrong assumption on this hidden benifits, thought they already gotton the assets.
Is the so called lost of their Millions are going to be contra with some other could not be announced losses ?
sadly...we are going the wrong way now...agriculture.forget about industrial says new govt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By buying in the technological company is the easiest way to obtain their proprietory technical knowhow. Euro 70Million for Augusta is cheaper than and more polite way of obtaining the designs knowhow and secretcy rather than sending spy as what have the Japanese T company to steal the designs from America C company in early 70&#8217;s and facing a lawsuit for copy right issues. The same goes to Taiwan technology company who employ ex-Cornnings design engineer and fall into the copyright lawsuits on glass processing for LCD display.<br />
We buy it, means we owned it. We owned it, means we can make it. Is todays terms as technological transfer. More officials, The tangible saving is indefinate compared to lawsuits which will cause more millions of Euros if doing it unpolitely.<br />
As since the 1997 finiancial crisis, the Korean company have been rise up so fast and make their appearence in the market strongly were due to this techniques. LG twinning/buying into Hitachi for DVD Writers Technology, Samsung is partnering with Toshiba, BenQ partnering with Philips, IBM sold their manufacturing business to the Chinese, and so on&#8230;, but Proton new management did not see this, and make their wrong assumption on this hidden benifits, thought they already gotton the assets.<br />
Is the so called lost of their Millions are going to be contra with some other could not be announced losses ?<br />
sadly&#8230;we are going the wrong way now&#8230;agriculture.forget about industrial says new govt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shaif</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31395</link>
		<dc:creator>shaif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well looks like we miss a chance to see the true colour of Proton. Perhaps the answer will expose too many bad apples of mismanagement in Proton. 
Anyway, as proton&#039;s car owner I would be happy to read some explanation about the MVA as it give an insights on how the automotive industry in Malaysia make their decision.
Eventhough PM applauded transparency in Govt services, the private sector still shy away from it. Trade secret maybe, hopefully Proton new management know their direction and be honest with locals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well looks like we miss a chance to see the true colour of Proton. Perhaps the answer will expose too many bad apples of mismanagement in Proton.<br />
Anyway, as proton&#8217;s car owner I would be happy to read some explanation about the MVA as it give an insights on how the automotive industry in Malaysia make their decision.<br />
Eventhough PM applauded transparency in Govt services, the private sector still shy away from it. Trade secret maybe, hopefully Proton new management know their direction and be honest with locals.</p>
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		<title>By: HatukNgkau</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31380</link>
		<dc:creator>HatukNgkau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 02:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm... even the 2 TMs are ignored when Proton says &quot;no additional explanation necessary&quot;, what is there left for us the rakyat yang sering ditindas? ft chance they&#039;ll ever isten!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm&#8230; even the 2 TMs are ignored when Proton says &#8220;no additional explanation necessary&#8221;, what is there left for us the rakyat yang sering ditindas? ft chance they&#8217;ll ever isten!</p>
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		<title>By: artraider</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31359</link>
		<dc:creator>artraider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder.. if something do happen..
will i be able to own a BMW? or will i be able to get a new proton cheaper?
i wonder... 

i wonder.. will the voice in here be heard up there?
maybe somebody should start a petition letter.. asking for reasoning.. if appropriate..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder.. if something do happen..<br />
will i be able to own a BMW? or will i be able to get a new proton cheaper?<br />
i wonder&#8230; </p>
<p>i wonder.. will the voice in here be heard up there?<br />
maybe somebody should start a petition letter.. asking for reasoning.. if appropriate..</p>
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		<title>By: HatukNgkau</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31315</link>
		<dc:creator>HatukNgkau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 14:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well... what gives u the right to determine whose essay are fictional and whose essay are representative of truth? nobody wants u to be the self-appointed moral guardian here...

so does that makes opinions contrary to ur beliefs and opinions are &quot;fictions&quot; all the way? hmm... another closed minded person... 

u should have learnt something from me and zarul in the &quot;proton basher&quot; thread... though we have different opinion but that doesnt mean we shall fight till death defending our points, nor making mockery of others who doesnt stand on the same side. keep an open mind, agree to disagree... that&#039;s what discussions are for. not to convert others to ur cause!

now that paul has set a stricter posting requirements, and i dare say, it&#039;s all started bcoz of u and param!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230; what gives u the right to determine whose essay are fictional and whose essay are representative of truth? nobody wants u to be the self-appointed moral guardian here&#8230;</p>
<p>so does that makes opinions contrary to ur beliefs and opinions are &#8220;fictions&#8221; all the way? hmm&#8230; another closed minded person&#8230; </p>
<p>u should have learnt something from me and zarul in the &#8220;proton basher&#8221; thread&#8230; though we have different opinion but that doesnt mean we shall fight till death defending our points, nor making mockery of others who doesnt stand on the same side. keep an open mind, agree to disagree&#8230; that&#8217;s what discussions are for. not to convert others to ur cause!</p>
<p>now that paul has set a stricter posting requirements, and i dare say, it&#8217;s all started bcoz of u and param!</p>
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		<title>By: shaymen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31271</link>
		<dc:creator>shaymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stevarac said,
January 9, 2006 @ 1:43 pm
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i dont think u understand me here...their essay is a fictional one,it will confuse all confused malaysian ppl...i dont want that to happen to my countrymen..
if its really a good comment,takde putar belit,i dont care...say la what u wanna say...</description>
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January 9, 2006 @ 1:43 pm<br />
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i dont think u understand me here&#8230;their essay is a fictional one,it will confuse all confused malaysian ppl&#8230;i dont want that to happen to my countrymen..<br />
if its really a good comment,takde putar belit,i dont care&#8230;say la what u wanna say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stevarac</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31259</link>
		<dc:creator>stevarac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 05:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shaymen said,

January 9, 2006 @ 11:38 am 
hello stevengerard,
do i force u to follow me?i dont think so manâ€¦u can say whatever u wanna say.
being an adult,doesnt mean u can think straight,doesnt mean everything u said is trueâ€¦.see like speedjunkie,jolly,laetitia,zahrul and so..they claim they know everything bout proton,u go ahead try to disagree with themâ€¦
they will write u an essay to confuse u,to make u believe in themâ€¦
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That is what I mean by engaging in a debate/discussion. They might have written an essay to explain their points of view.There is nothing wrong with that ! You can of course reply back with a whole chapter. The thing is there are lots of people who may not agree with them. The choice is either to ignore those essays or continue to engage in a civilised ( see ? I stop using adult ) manner.

Right , you did not force me to agree with you.... but sometime when you used certain harsh language , others may construed that as coercion.
There is a saying &quot; Tua siah bei chun &quot; Talk loud may not mean right !!!
Take it easy bro.... enjoy the new Saleen from Paul.  Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shaymen said,</p>
<p>January 9, 2006 @ 11:38 am<br />
hello stevengerard,<br />
do i force u to follow me?i dont think so manâ€¦u can say whatever u wanna say.<br />
being an adult,doesnt mean u can think straight,doesnt mean everything u said is trueâ€¦.see like speedjunkie,jolly,laetitia,zahrul and so..they claim they know everything bout proton,u go ahead try to disagree with themâ€¦<br />
they will write u an essay to confuse u,to make u believe in themâ€¦<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
That is what I mean by engaging in a debate/discussion. They might have written an essay to explain their points of view.There is nothing wrong with that ! You can of course reply back with a whole chapter. The thing is there are lots of people who may not agree with them. The choice is either to ignore those essays or continue to engage in a civilised ( see ? I stop using adult ) manner.</p>
<p>Right , you did not force me to agree with you&#8230;. but sometime when you used certain harsh language , others may construed that as coercion.<br />
There is a saying &#8221; Tua siah bei chun &#8221; Talk loud may not mean right !!!<br />
Take it easy bro&#8230;. enjoy the new Saleen from Paul.  Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: shaymen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31249</link>
		<dc:creator>shaymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops! said,
January 9, 2006 @ 12:10 pm 

Hello brother shaymen,

i agree with Stevarac doesnâ€™t mean i donâ€™t agree with your points. I understand your point and for sake i also want GLC to be transparent. But then the way you reply is to harshâ€¦..

cheers! I support transparency but tone down a bit l
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ooohhhh!!!.....okay la like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops! said,<br />
January 9, 2006 @ 12:10 pm </p>
<p>Hello brother shaymen,</p>
<p>i agree with Stevarac doesnâ€™t mean i donâ€™t agree with your points. I understand your point and for sake i also want GLC to be transparent. But then the way you reply is to harshâ€¦..</p>
<p>cheers! I support transparency but tone down a bit l<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
ooohhhh!!!&#8230;..okay la like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Oops!</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31246</link>
		<dc:creator>Oops!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello brother shaymen,

i agree with Stevarac doesn&#039;t mean i don&#039;t agree with your points. I understand your point and for sake i also want GLC to be transparent. But then the way you reply is to harsh.....

cheers! I support transparency but tone down a bit lar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello brother shaymen,</p>
<p>i agree with Stevarac doesn&#8217;t mean i don&#8217;t agree with your points. I understand your point and for sake i also want GLC to be transparent. But then the way you reply is to harsh&#8230;..</p>
<p>cheers! I support transparency but tone down a bit lar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EDDIE FANS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31244</link>
		<dc:creator>EDDIE FANS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PAUL,

Y THEY ALL ACT LIKE KIDS?? TILL I NO MOOD TO READ THE REST OF COMMENTS, WASTING MY TIME ONLY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PAUL,</p>
<p>Y THEY ALL ACT LIKE KIDS?? TILL I NO MOOD TO READ THE REST OF COMMENTS, WASTING MY TIME ONLY.</p>
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		<title>By: shaymen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31240</link>
		<dc:creator>shaymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops! said,
January 9, 2006 @ 11:36 am 

I fully agree with Stevarac as this would encourage more people to give your constructive comments and thus have a balance view of any topics posted by Paul and of course this is also represent my own view. 
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come on la weiii.....give ur comment laaa...im okay with it....just dont try to write an essay to show that,what u say is &#039;gerenti&#039; true,everybody must believe in u..then i&#039;l be the one disagreeing with u la brader...:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops! said,<br />
January 9, 2006 @ 11:36 am </p>
<p>I fully agree with Stevarac as this would encourage more people to give your constructive comments and thus have a balance view of any topics posted by Paul and of course this is also represent my own view.<br />
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come on la weiii&#8230;..give ur comment laaa&#8230;im okay with it&#8230;.just dont try to write an essay to show that,what u say is &#8216;gerenti&#8217; true,everybody must believe in u..then i&#8217;l be the one disagreeing with u la brader&#8230;:)</p>
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		<title>By: shaymen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31236</link>
		<dc:creator>shaymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stevarac said,
January 9, 2006 @ 10:56 am 
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hello stevengerard,
do i force u to follow me?i dont think so man...u can say whatever u wanna say.
being an adult,doesnt mean u can think straight,doesnt mean everything u said is true....see like speedjunkie,jolly,laetitia,zahrul and so..they claim they know everything bout proton,u go ahead try to disagree with them...
they will write u an essay to confuse u,to make u believe in them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stevarac said,<br />
January 9, 2006 @ 10:56 am<br />
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hello stevengerard,<br />
do i force u to follow me?i dont think so man&#8230;u can say whatever u wanna say.<br />
being an adult,doesnt mean u can think straight,doesnt mean everything u said is true&#8230;.see like speedjunkie,jolly,laetitia,zahrul and so..they claim they know everything bout proton,u go ahead try to disagree with them&#8230;<br />
they will write u an essay to confuse u,to make u believe in them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Oops!</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31235</link>
		<dc:creator>Oops!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with Stevarac as this would encourage more people to give your constructive comments and thus have a balance view of any topics posted by Paul and of course this is also represent my own view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with Stevarac as this would encourage more people to give your constructive comments and thus have a balance view of any topics posted by Paul and of course this is also represent my own view.</p>
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		<title>By: eMalaysian</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31228</link>
		<dc:creator>eMalaysian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If proton is national car, then it must answer to the rakyat. Give the rakyat an answer with national pride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If proton is national car, then it must answer to the rakyat. Give the rakyat an answer with national pride.</p>
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		<title>By: stevarac</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31223</link>
		<dc:creator>stevarac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 02:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shaymen said;
im adult enough not to be a blind basherand like mr param said,adult enough not to make stupid claim like heâ€™s the prime minister,working at lotus,proton,mas,telekom and whatsoever....
_________________________________________________________________________
Well , by all means continue to engage in poiting out your point of view. If they are not what they claim to be , then it may not be difficult to debate and debunk their point of views.
ASSUMING THE OTHER PARTY IS BULL-SHITTING DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT FOR YOU TO START NAME CALLING.
You can either continue to engage in your debate or simple ignoring will do. Remember that it is not possible make everyone agree to your point of views even though you may think it is the absolutely right. That is what adults in a free world have to live with.
I for one also think that we Malaysian car owners have been paying way too much for our cars in the name of supporting our car industries and at such Proton should disclose the reasons on the MV purchase &amp; subsequent selling as a matter of transparency &amp; public interest.
BUT HEY ! IT&#039;S JUST MY OPINION. IT IS ALRIGHT TO DISAGREE.
Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shaymen said;<br />
im adult enough not to be a blind basherand like mr param said,adult enough not to make stupid claim like heâ€™s the prime minister,working at lotus,proton,mas,telekom and whatsoever&#8230;.<br />
_________________________________________________________________________<br />
Well , by all means continue to engage in poiting out your point of view. If they are not what they claim to be , then it may not be difficult to debate and debunk their point of views.<br />
ASSUMING THE OTHER PARTY IS BULL-SHITTING DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT FOR YOU TO START NAME CALLING.<br />
You can either continue to engage in your debate or simple ignoring will do. Remember that it is not possible make everyone agree to your point of views even though you may think it is the absolutely right. That is what adults in a free world have to live with.<br />
I for one also think that we Malaysian car owners have been paying way too much for our cars in the name of supporting our car industries and at such Proton should disclose the reasons on the MV purchase &amp; subsequent selling as a matter of transparency &amp; public interest.<br />
BUT HEY ! IT&#8217;S JUST MY OPINION. IT IS ALRIGHT TO DISAGREE.<br />
Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: shaymen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31194</link>
		<dc:creator>shaymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 01:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swee said,
January 8, 2006 @ 5:48 pm 

if i am not mistaken mahathir is on protonâ€™s payrollâ€¦ not the other way around.

employees should listen to their employer 
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miss swee,
where do u get this fact?......from laetitia?speed junkie?or jolly bean ahh?
aiyo amoi aaa...like param said laa,if that is the case...they should be transparent with all of us laaa....why dont they do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swee said,<br />
January 8, 2006 @ 5:48 pm </p>
<p>if i am not mistaken mahathir is on protonâ€™s payrollâ€¦ not the other way around.</p>
<p>employees should listen to their employer<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
miss swee,<br />
where do u get this fact?&#8230;&#8230;from laetitia?speed junkie?or jolly bean ahh?<br />
aiyo amoi aaa&#8230;like param said laa,if that is the case&#8230;they should be transparent with all of us laaa&#8230;.why dont they do that?</p>
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		<title>By: shaymen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31192</link>
		<dc:creator>shaymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 01:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paramsingwalia said,
January 8, 2006 @ 5:07 pm 

kerja sama sayaâ€¦.uhuk uhuk uhuk uhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkkâ€¦.
bukan untuk saya uhuk uhk uhkâ€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦

but heâ€™s just a salesmanâ€¦.how to work for him?all he does is play golf with our neighbourâ€¦. 
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we just copy what our pm is doing....play golf also laaa,then started to sell everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paramsingwalia said,<br />
January 8, 2006 @ 5:07 pm </p>
<p>kerja sama sayaâ€¦.uhuk uhuk uhuk uhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkkâ€¦.<br />
bukan untuk saya uhuk uhk uhkâ€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦</p>
<p>but heâ€™s just a salesmanâ€¦.how to work for him?all he does is play golf with our neighbourâ€¦.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
we just copy what our pm is doing&#8230;.play golf also laaa,then started to sell everything.</p>
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		<title>By: shaymen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31188</link>
		<dc:creator>shaymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 01:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stevarac said,
January 8, 2006 @ 5:24 pm 

To Shaymen &amp; Param :
-------------------------------------------------------


im adult enough not to be a blind basherand like mr param said,adult enough not to make stupid claim like he&#039;s the prime minister,working at lotus,proton,mas,telekom and whatsoever.....opps!lupa lak,adult enough not to write an fictional essay here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stevarac said,<br />
January 8, 2006 @ 5:24 pm </p>
<p>To Shaymen &amp; Param :<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>im adult enough not to be a blind basherand like mr param said,adult enough not to make stupid claim like he&#8217;s the prime minister,working at lotus,proton,mas,telekom and whatsoever&#8230;..opps!lupa lak,adult enough not to write an fictional essay here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EDDIE FANS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31173</link>
		<dc:creator>EDDIE FANS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 00:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it still hold it, proton sure habis.. lucky they released it!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it still hold it, proton sure habis.. lucky they released it!!!</p>
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		<title>By: paramsingwalia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31116</link>
		<dc:creator>paramsingwalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#
swee said,

January 8, 2006 @ 5:48 pm

if i am not mistaken mahathir is on protonâ€™s payrollâ€¦ not the other way around.

employees should listen to their employer

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if like that,proton is under the rakyat payroll...they should listen,explain and be transparent to all of us..except a few here who for some fishy/personal reason dont want to be explain.
and this includes all GLC&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<br />
swee said,</p>
<p>January 8, 2006 @ 5:48 pm</p>
<p>if i am not mistaken mahathir is on protonâ€™s payrollâ€¦ not the other way around.</p>
<p>employees should listen to their employer</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>if like that,proton is under the rakyat payroll&#8230;they should listen,explain and be transparent to all of us..except a few here who for some fishy/personal reason dont want to be explain.<br />
and this includes all GLC&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: swee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31111</link>
		<dc:creator>swee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if i am not mistaken mahathir is on proton&#039;s payroll... not the other way around.

employees should listen to their employer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if i am not mistaken mahathir is on proton&#8217;s payroll&#8230; not the other way around.</p>
<p>employees should listen to their employer</p>
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		<title>By: paramsingwalia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31105</link>
		<dc:creator>paramsingwalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>adult enough not to make stupid claims of being insider lotus engineer, investment banker,wife of proton who knows what bla bla bla...ehehehehehheh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adult enough not to make stupid claims of being insider lotus engineer, investment banker,wife of proton who knows what bla bla bla&#8230;ehehehehehheh</p>
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		<title>By: stevarac</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31102</link>
		<dc:creator>stevarac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Shaymen &amp; Param :

I agreee to some of the points that both of you bring up.
I for one is hoping &amp; waiting for some concrete response from Proton regarding the MV sale &amp; at the same time the reason of the purchase at the first place. Which end of it is FISHY is yet to be seen. At this moment of course , we can only wait.
BUT FOR HEAVEN SAKE DON&#039;T SPOIL THIS BLOG BY NAME CALLING  THOSE THAT DOES NOT SHARE YOUR OPINION. THIS WILL JUST PUT OFF SOME PEOPLE FROM FROM VOICING THEIR OPINION.
TRY TO AGREE &amp; DISAGREE IN A ADULT MANNER ( THOUGH I AM NOT SURE HOW ADULT YOU ARE ACTUALLY ).
Finally , loosen up. Don&#039;t have to take all this too seriously. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Shaymen &amp; Param :</p>
<p>I agreee to some of the points that both of you bring up.<br />
I for one is hoping &amp; waiting for some concrete response from Proton regarding the MV sale &amp; at the same time the reason of the purchase at the first place. Which end of it is FISHY is yet to be seen. At this moment of course , we can only wait.<br />
BUT FOR HEAVEN SAKE DON&#8217;T SPOIL THIS BLOG BY NAME CALLING  THOSE THAT DOES NOT SHARE YOUR OPINION. THIS WILL JUST PUT OFF SOME PEOPLE FROM FROM VOICING THEIR OPINION.<br />
TRY TO AGREE &amp; DISAGREE IN A ADULT MANNER ( THOUGH I AM NOT SURE HOW ADULT YOU ARE ACTUALLY ).<br />
Finally , loosen up. Don&#8217;t have to take all this too seriously. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: paramsingwalia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31096</link>
		<dc:creator>paramsingwalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kerja sama saya....uhuk uhuk uhuk uhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkk....
bukan untuk saya uhuk uhk uhk..................

but he&#039;s just a salesman....how to work for him?all he does is play golf with our neighbour....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kerja sama saya&#8230;.uhuk uhuk uhuk uhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukkkk&#8230;.<br />
bukan untuk saya uhuk uhk uhk&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>but he&#8217;s just a salesman&#8230;.how to work for him?all he does is play golf with our neighbour&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: shaymen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/06/proton-no-additional-explanation-necessary/#comment-31094</link>
		<dc:creator>shaymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>say it with me la gang.......&quot;kerja sama sayyyaaaaaa&quot;..

hehehehehehehehehehehehehe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>say it with me la gang&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;kerja sama sayyyaaaaaa&#8221;..</p>
<p>hehehehehehehehehehehehehe&#8230;</p>
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