You guys are right- Proton is kidding themselves if they think they can go about it alone. Lets face it – they will be running out of money soon when car sales and share price are dropping (like an ape down a building).

What's Syed Zainal going to do about it? I'm sure he is waiting for instructions from Azlan on what to say and do for the next few months. Other than that, I don't think he's of any use to the general population in and outside Proton.

Tun and TM should also stop putting the company in a bad light in the press – it's making things worse and shed a bad light on all of us actually. Bickering in public won't solve anything.

Proton should stop acting like its all that (if you know what I mean) they ain't got nothin' to show for (don't say Lotus coz the British firm is always ready to put on sale again) and fess up. It's time for some humility and honesty…

must be that kj and the gang la….so sad!

when the new chairman come under kj,they try to sell proton to vw to get the commission,that why is was no go…not that vw dump proton like a few pig say in here..proton didnt loose anything,we just lose mv agusta for 1euro and 30million commission in somebody swiss account.thats all…

January 14, 2006 @ 3:00 pm

————————————————————–ive seen the news mr param..but theres nothing we can do la mr param…all glc company control by the first family and the gang…of cos la they want to find partners,they will get commision for it what..the ecm libra case?u can read it in harakah la man…the moon gang oready write about it what..u cannot trust the media anymore la mr param…they are all under media prima and it is own by mr kj,the most powerfull singaporean in malaysia…and its all happenin bcos of a few ignorant pig here who dont wanna know what is happenin with their country..

what the two TM are doing is to try to change malaysian citizen mindset la i think..

People are left in the dark with all the rumours being spread out. Every investor not confidence with Proton's future. Or is it because some people more willingly to sell off Proton to other party at the lowest share price. Anything could happen.

But now, proton shares weakening, NAP still being uncertain, Japan talks cock about entering our market, China come with its Geli car, and our No1 still keep silent.

Protecting vendors should'nt be the only consideration now. Proton should buck up and realise that they can't quietly exist with a market that's already fed-up with being played.

I think losing VW is only the beginning of it's problems.

to proton to be transparent…ask azlan to explain everything,mv vw..etc2…

dont let the first family control proton anymore is what i say…proton belongs to malaysians…not just one young person,if u know what i mean..

And u r correct, u must be hardworking, here I refer to achieve things u wan in life. No point of dreaming for cepat kaya… which u r correct.

And motoring hub… it takes years for conti companies achieve wht they hv today, may P1 be able to resist challenges coming as water r soaking them down in the sea. Gd Luck

January 14, 2006 @ 10:31 am

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ha ha ha…..why all of u are angry with me..its just my opinion.

im not making chaos,u act like a kid instead…if u think im wrong,dont listen to what ive said la fren…

we cannot copy what chinese are doing la eversoft…their ppl are very hardworking.if not how could they build the great wall?how can japon rise up after they fall?and chinese and japanese ppl are very patriotic i tell u fren…malaysian ppl are very lazy instead…semua nak cepat kaya.semua main skim cepat kaya.

if our G do the same thing,sure dead frog la our country..everybody selling all of what they have and lastly maybe they will sell their kid as prostitute like in the thailand laa…motoring hub konon!hehehehe..their ppl tak maju2 pun..u dont believe me ahh?try go to thailand and see for urself la,u can get a 12years old prostitute there u know….all the carmaker didnt help civilised their ppl mind….

good for u now u will have ur golfset gti…can go and showoff at sri hartamas laa…all the girl will come after u la i think my fren…:)

I dun blame VW as in de 1st place I dun expect de deal to work out. C'mon be logical… every international biz entities knows how to play or doing biz internationally. Those r developed countries companies wldnt be able to cope with developing countries need. Unless u learn wht China do days before. They let u setup wht u want, they provide manpower, tax free.. bla bla.. so what if u being treated like King?? Thn after they learned wht they wan, they open or setup factory next to u being ur neighbour, eating ur pie.

I thank VW instead as I will be getting my Golf GTI soon.. I dun wan de brand image jeopardize like example of Kia Caren becoming Nz Citra.

January 14, 2006 @ 9:56 am

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proton is still leading as the most car registered in nov if im not mistaken…

ur right,i think proton will die if that penguin azlan is still there..now i've heard that penguin azlan and maruan dah tak se'feather'….like a few weeks ago,penguin say the promo still on,maruan don want to be scapegoat anymore by saying "NO MORE DISCOUNT" in the news…hehehehehe……..

now that the deal is off,i do hope that proton will survive in many years to come…

January 14, 2006 @ 9:33 am

Expected… And VW is like making fool of P1… P1 share prices down like the ape falling down from building

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dont worry my fren!…we can ask all investment banker in malaysia to help boost up proton share prices….."mostly they will say,lets sell it,sure the price will go up….s(tut)id..of cos it will go up bcos everybody berebut want to buy it,then it will drop back for sure"………

dont blame vw la my fren,thank them in return for not buying our countrys pride…

this is a very good news…what a relief.this is a very good sign…now that ecm libra case coming out from harakah,all the broker who want to sell our countrys pride are afraid to do so…for now at least.

i think vw is not confident with the new management of proton..or,i think that proton has come out with the term that vw disagree because the deal that was made by tm is vw get to use our high tech tanjung malim plant and they will share some of their technology with us… not like the new deal that vw requested to have 51% control stake and then maybe they will sell our tanjung malim plant,rebadge our car and hire all the mat sallih instead of our ppl in proton…."i think we should do that with mv agusta before selling it for no reason,that penguin has no fighting spirit"…eh!..i think like this la…maybe the new management want to sell proton for 50cent and vw pitty all the malaysian ppl and dont want to buy it because if they do so,malaysian ppl look very st(tut)id..

or…..i think the person who control mr no comment donno how to talk with vw and ask mr penguin(also donno anythin)to make a deal and the result is "NO GOOOOO"..

i thank VWag for not buying proton and i thank tm for fighting for our future…

i choose malaysia boleh! rather than cemerlang,gemilang,terbilang….

i wonder is there any partner in future?

hyundai may be?

chamm….

cheers… for VW, coz the share go up.

Hmm… I never expected to write another entry regarding Proton, after this piece written in October last year. But recent developments have encouraged me enough to again, give my two cents regarding “Malaysia’s National Car Company&#8…

So not only can you not tell the future, you're illiterate as well.

Sorry, Paul. Do whatever you want but I'm outta here.

January 13, 2006 @ 6:24 pm

marmitecrab wants me to tell the future…ehehheehhe….

go ask nujum pak belalang la….stupid crab

Paul,

I thought no more name calling?? This fella just called me stupid. Who the hell he thinks he is? Hogging the forum like he runs Proton.

So sad, here we are trying to promote constructive comments and intelligent discussions, some people just can't break their bad habits.

Param, FYI, you have not said anything or contributed anything that has not been said before by others. Nor have you added anything of value except criticise other peoples comments. I know there are a few out there who have not said anything as yet who can put someone like you in your place as easily as selling P2 cars.

Looks like there is no more need for anyone to say anything anymore as our resident "expert" here knows everything.