Comments on: 2006 Proton Waja Campro http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Wed, 23 May 2012 18:08:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Colin http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-528570 Colin Sat, 10 Sep 2011 03:29:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-528570 Correction the year is 2006 and not 1996..sorry for the typo Correction the year is 2006 and not 1996..sorry for the typo

]]> By: colin http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-434909 colin Sun, 06 Feb 2011 08:01:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-434909 i bought new waja 1.6 (M) in july 1996, its going into my fifth year, i had no major problem except only my power window. i bought new waja 1.6 (M) in july 1996, its going into my fifth year, i had no major problem except only my power window.

]]> By: Tham http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-397646 Tham Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:57:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-397646 Dear all, I jz bought a 2nd hand waja campro last month, im facing one problem hope all of u can help, the problem is when im on 110km/h on highway, when im slow down the speed around 80km/h, the car suddenly will turn to 3rd gear from 4th gear, really appreciate anyone can help me with this problem. Thx alot!! Dear all,

I jz bought a 2nd hand waja campro last month, im facing one problem hope all of u can help,
the problem is when im on 110km/h on highway, when im slow down the speed around 80km/h, the car suddenly will turn to 3rd gear from 4th gear, really appreciate anyone can help me with this problem. Thx alot!!

]]> By: zdin http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-270114 zdin Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:46:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-270114 Is it campro engine is safe? From newspaper report that it burn into fire when involve in accident. That scary Is it campro engine is safe? From newspaper report that it burn into fire when involve in accident. That scary

]]> By: javgen2 http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-93109 javgen2 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:17:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-93109 Can anyone tell me if it is possible to purchase a facia panel for installing an aftermarket 1 din stereo to a 2005 Proton Gen 2? Can anyone tell me if it is possible to purchase a facia panel for installing an aftermarket 1 din stereo to a 2005 Proton Gen 2?

]]> By: nizirith http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-60312 nizirith Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:57:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-60312 Hi..i'm new here. i bought my waja campro (A) 7 mnths ago and seems no prob wit me.Fuel consumption is better than my bro's 4G18 waja.Just a little noise that came out lately fr my rear absorber.Some sound like a shaking spring or sometin.I thought it was my rear seat belt clip.My fren told me that it was a normal prob wit waja.Will send it for warranty n they will replace my absorber.I guess i have to support proton.I love my country man..i dont want to send my $$ outside the country to outsiders.U think? Hi..i'm new here.

i bought my waja campro (A) 7 mnths ago and seems no prob wit me.Fuel consumption is better than my bro's 4G18 waja.Just a little noise that came out lately fr my rear absorber.Some sound like a shaking spring or sometin.I thought it was my rear seat belt clip.My fren told me that it was a normal prob wit waja.Will send it for warranty n they will replace my absorber.I guess i have to support proton.I love my country man..i dont want to send my $$ outside the country to outsiders.U think?

]]> By: addin_709 http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-54064 addin_709 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:40:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-54064 hello all, im new here. i think bcos campro have a new interior look,leather seat etc so it have to cover the price.not like mine 4G18 enhanced vrsn.hi hi.its all about the money man.abs don have but in emergency brake situation its like abs type.ive a situation when i speed in100km/hrs theres a bloody driver who cross the red light trafic n i push the brake n its stop in less 10m.(kecut buah jugak wei). hello all, im new here.

i think bcos campro have a new interior look,leather seat etc so it have to cover the price.not like mine

4G18 enhanced vrsn.hi hi.its all about the money man.abs don have but in emergency brake situation its like abs type.ive a situation when i speed in100km/hrs theres a bloody driver who cross the red light trafic n i push the brake n its stop in less 10m.(kecut buah jugak wei).

]]> By: ben6608 http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-37293 ben6608 Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:00:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-37293 WHY THE HELL THE NEW WAJA CAPRO IS NOT FITTED IS WITH AIRBAGS????!!! I TOT IT SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THAN THE OLD 1 but waja campro got ABS rite? WHY THE HELL THE NEW WAJA CAPRO IS NOT FITTED IS WITH AIRBAGS????!!! I TOT IT SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THAN THE OLD 1 but waja campro got ABS rite?

]]> By: go_go http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-35703 go_go Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:14:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-35703 some people said the new waja campro carried a lots of problems... radiator bocor...ape tah lagi... betul ka? some people said the new waja campro carried a lots of problems… radiator bocor…ape tah lagi… betul ka?

]]> By: Updates on Satria Replacement Model from Proton Cars Australia » http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-35556 Updates on Satria Replacement Model from Proton Cars Australia » Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:25:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-35556 [...] The interview also carries some specifications for the new Satria Replacement Model. Proton Cars Australia MD John Startari says the new Satria Replacement Model will use 1.6 liter Campro engines found in the Proton Gen2 and the Proton Waja Campro. The GTi version is not fully developed yet, but a benchmark of 140kW or 187 horsepower is the current performance target for the hot hatch. It will might be equipped with Eibach performance springs. The Satria Replacement Model’s design is said to take design cues from the Alfa Romeo 147 and the Audi A3. [...] [...] The interview also carries some specifications for the new Satria Replacement Model. Proton Cars Australia MD John Startari says the new Satria Replacement Model will use 1.6 liter Campro engines found in the Proton Gen2 and the Proton Waja Campro. The GTi version is not fully developed yet, but a benchmark of 140kW or 187 horsepower is the current performance target for the hot hatch. It will might be equipped with Eibach performance springs. The Satria Replacement Model’s design is said to take design cues from the Alfa Romeo 147 and the Audi A3. [...]

]]> By: HatukNgkau http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32333 HatukNgkau Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:12:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32333 i'm sticking with my 4g18 waja... thank u... mostly city bumper to bumper drive, i dont think Campro engine will save fuel any better... i'm sticking with my 4g18 waja… thank u… mostly city bumper to bumper drive, i dont think Campro engine will save fuel any better…

]]> By: Ajis http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32327 Ajis Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:39:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32327 I've overheard that Campro offers a bit savings in your petrol than the old 4g18.. But your car is gonna be a bit slower? Well, just some chats with a friend in Proton... Well, Love the new interior... Worth buying it than korean and taiwan made cars.... I'm planning on getting one of it.... substitute it with my Kembara... I've overheard that Campro offers a bit savings in your petrol than the old 4g18.. But your car is gonna be a bit slower? Well, just some chats with a friend in Proton… Well, Love the new interior… Worth buying it than korean and taiwan made cars…. I'm planning on getting one of it…. substitute it with my Kembara…

]]> By: epalhead http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32310 epalhead Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:07:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32310 allo shaymen and every one…. have u all test drive one…??? its bullshit man….the acceleration, one must rev high to enable the car to move (sighs)…interior…wow. i like it. like u said. full of leather. well made. but performance wise…naaaaa…contradict my expectation. one must rev. up as high as 4000rpm in order to clock 30km/h before shifthing to 2nd gear and i'm talking bout the campro 1.6 auto here. with the 110hp @ 6000rpm, my MYvi can simply chicken this campro eventhough the myvi clock 88bhp @ 6600rpm. hahahaha…wakakakaka..but ..huk huk….the interior of myvi, the sit fabric, door trim…dashboard even the carpet…if RUBBISH…looks CHEAP. huk huk eventually i've book one merely coz of sedan looks of the waja, luxurious looks on the inside but i still a bit scared bout the campro engine. anyone who have the experience of the gen2...anyone?? CHOU MI AE JEK!!!! allo shaymen and every one….

have u all test drive one…???

its bullshit man….the acceleration, one must rev high to enable the car to move (sighs)…interior…wow. i like it. like u said. full of leather. well made. but performance wise…naaaaa…contradict my expectation. one must rev. up as high as 4000rpm in order to clock 30km/h before shifthing to 2nd gear and i'm talking bout the campro 1.6 auto here.

with the 110hp @ 6000rpm, my MYvi can simply chicken this campro eventhough the myvi clock 88bhp @ 6600rpm. hahahaha…wakakakaka..but ..huk huk….the interior of myvi, the sit fabric, door trim…dashboard even the carpet…if RUBBISH…looks CHEAP. huk huk

eventually i've book one merely coz of sedan looks of the waja, luxurious looks on the inside but i still a bit scared bout the campro engine.

anyone who have the experience of the gen2…anyone??

CHOU MI AE JEK!!!!

]]> By: cavino http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32190 cavino Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:59:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32190 Just checking, is Campro ULEV compliant Just checking, is Campro ULEV compliant

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32168 nizam80 Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:24:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32168 Yes.. Savvy's NVH is excellent. 170 km/h u say? I haven't tried that yet on my Savvy. Only tried till 140 km/h, but i ran out of clear road. Still stable, and no vibration on the steering wheel, and absolutely no wind noise. :) So far, my car got no rattling yet. Only time, 'lenjan', and 'belasah' type of driving will tell. hehe... The car is not that small actually. In theory, it's a few milimeters wider than the iswara. (refer to Proton Edar website), but of course the length is shorter. Rexis, for a few thousands more, u get a built-in Clarion CD Player, reliable engine, Drive By Wire technology, stronger chassis, 15 inch rims, and of course, better handling than the Kenari. But, still no Hi-Line version. I think maybe coming soon. hmm... actually which is expensive: Kenari or Savvy?? Yes.. Savvy's NVH is excellent. 170 km/h u say? I haven't tried that yet on my Savvy. Only tried till 140 km/h, but i ran out of clear road. Still stable, and no vibration on the steering wheel, and absolutely no wind noise. :) So far, my car got no rattling yet. Only time, 'lenjan', and 'belasah' type of driving will tell. hehe… The car is not that small actually. In theory, it's a few milimeters wider than the iswara. (refer to Proton Edar website), but of course the length is shorter.

Rexis, for a few thousands more, u get a built-in Clarion CD Player, reliable engine, Drive By Wire technology, stronger chassis, 15 inch rims, and of course, better handling than the Kenari. But, still no Hi-Line version. I think maybe coming soon. hmm… actually which is expensive: Kenari or Savvy??

]]> By: catborg http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32137 catborg Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:15:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32137 rexis .. it's because u not try to drive it and love it. i did.. and all the way ot's better times than Kelisa go figure! .. look at <a href="http://www.savoc.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.savoc.net</a> (savvy owner club) . savvy no more UGLY as u think! . After little mod. u can see the Garang and great look. But that's IF YOURE KIND AND HONEST look into it. but if you still hardcore of p2.. i would say.. you'll never accept it :D for those still think savvy is small.. let u judge while it park nearby Iswara / wira .. or Getz .. u will impress that savvy are IN size and more higher than wira/iswara!. Spacious inside.. no problem with me those 170 height. rexis .. it's because u not try to drive it and love it.

i did.. and all the way ot's better times than Kelisa

go figure! .. look at http://www.savoc.net (savvy owner club) .

savvy no more UGLY as u think! . After little mod. u can see the Garang and great look.

But that's IF YOURE KIND AND HONEST look into it. but if you still hardcore of p2.. i would say.. you'll never accept it :D

for those still think savvy is small.. let u judge while it park nearby Iswara / wira .. or Getz .. u will impress that savvy are IN size and more higher than wira/iswara!. Spacious inside.. no problem with me those 170 height.

]]> By: HatukNgkau http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32136 HatukNgkau Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:51:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32136 rexis, somebody will point out to u that savvy has lotus handling la, top speed 170km/h la, strong body la... all those... wat're u gonna say to that? rexis,

somebody will point out to u that savvy has lotus handling la, top speed 170km/h la, strong body la… all those… wat're u gonna say to that?

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32126 rexis Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:04:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32126 Mmmm, my impression is Savvy is very expensive! Becoz i see BMW more then I see Savvy! So Savvy must be very premium! Just joking, I never been on a Savvy before, at the beggining I feel that Savvy design and look feel very wierd and odd, sort of unable to accept the toilet bowl hood and the mid-afterburner at the back. But day after day, time pass away, slowly i seen this little car more, I sort of accept the reality that P1 has this car and start accepting it. But anyway, I wont buy it! :p For the same class car I have kelisa/kenari as option, a few thousand difference really mean nothing. Mmmm, my impression is Savvy is very expensive! Becoz i see BMW more then I see Savvy! So Savvy must be very premium! Just joking, I never been on a Savvy before, at the beggining I feel that Savvy design and look feel very wierd and odd, sort of unable to accept the toilet bowl hood and the mid-afterburner at the back. But day after day, time pass away, slowly i seen this little car more, I sort of accept the reality that P1 has this car and start accepting it. But anyway, I wont buy it! :p For the same class car I have kelisa/kenari as option, a few thousand difference really mean nothing.

]]> By: stevarac http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32096 stevarac Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:40:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32096 nizam80 said, January 18, 2006 @ 10:56 pm ------------------------------------------------ Share with us what is your honest opinion on your savvy beside no rattling . Handling , FC , Noise insulation ..etc... ?? Don't feel embarassed to tell us if some of the parts starts to lose out to gravity. Just joking !! But seriously , share with us your impression so far on the overall Quality level. nizam80 said,

January 18, 2006 @ 10:56 pm

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Share with us what is your honest opinion on your savvy beside no rattling .

Handling , FC , Noise insulation ..etc… ??

Don't feel embarassed to tell us if some of the parts starts to lose out to gravity.

Just joking !! But seriously , share with us your impression so far on the overall Quality level.

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32094 nizam80 Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:56:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32094 For Stevarac and aKsMs: Based on what i've read in the newspaper last week, the Proton Savvy sales, since it's launch in June 2005 is about 7100 units sold (combined sales of both MT and AMT). I'm one of them who bought the MT version. (Got a small TUV seal of approval at the Windscreen some more...) I read in a local magazine that the AMT uses a gearbox from the Renault Clio III 2006 model. Cool. For Stevarac and aKsMs: Based on what i've read in the newspaper last week, the Proton Savvy sales, since it's launch in June 2005 is about 7100 units sold (combined sales of both MT and AMT). I'm one of them who bought the MT version. (Got a small TUV seal of approval at the Windscreen some more…)

I read in a local magazine that the AMT uses a gearbox from the Renault Clio III 2006 model. Cool.

]]> By: honda_driver http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32081 honda_driver Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:37:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32081 i think its too soon to make judgement about the new management of proton just yet. its only been less than a month since the new MD came above officially. its fair to at least give him a chance. as they say, rome wasnt built in a day. But if time is given, and they mess up again, then lets sharpen our knives and let the bashing begin... i think its too soon to make judgement about the new management of proton just yet. its only been less than a month since the new MD came above officially. its fair to at least give him a chance. as they say, rome wasnt built in a day. But if time is given, and they mess up again, then lets sharpen our knives and let the bashing begin…

]]> By: paramsingwalia http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32056 paramsingwalia Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:22:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32056 yup..a lot of people are scared and angry when mahaleel employs TUV.... yup..a lot of people are scared and angry when mahaleel employs TUV….

]]> By: shaymen http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32044 shaymen Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:06:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32044 i dont see any hope for proton to survive with this new management..like u said param,they didnt do anything to improve....not like in mahaleels time. when mahaleel want to kick off the useless vendor to improve proton,he instead being kick out of the ring....so sad! thats why we didnt see the campro with cps yet i think... i dont see any hope for proton to survive with this new management..like u said param,they didnt do anything to improve….not like in mahaleels time.

when mahaleel want to kick off the useless vendor to improve proton,he instead being kick out of the ring….so sad!

thats why we didnt see the campro with cps yet i think…

]]> By: paramsingwalia http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32011 paramsingwalia Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:23:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32011 hope so...but i dont see the new management come up with anything...tm did employ tuv and wanted to get rid or improve those vendors..sadly he not there anymore...any hope now? hope so…but i dont see the new management come up with anything…tm did employ tuv and wanted to get rid or improve those vendors..sadly he not there anymore…any hope now?

]]> By: biggie http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32009 biggie Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:20:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32009 As u all aware Proton Vendors are classified into Q category based on warranty claim recieved. It seem that only the only the top categories are allowed to be Savvy supplier but the lower category still can supply to other non TUV cars. Sad to say that Proton is still trying to improve the bottom grade supplier (like what Japanese is doing) asking them to conform to various quality and reliability standard. TS1649, ISO9000 etc...etc... will they improve? As u all aware Proton Vendors are classified into Q category based on warranty claim recieved. It seem that only the only the top categories are allowed to be Savvy supplier but the lower category still can supply to other non TUV cars.

Sad to say that Proton is still trying to improve the bottom grade supplier (like what Japanese is doing) asking them to conform to various quality and reliability standard. TS1649, ISO9000 etc…etc… will they improve?

]]> By: paramsingwalia http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-32001 paramsingwalia Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:35:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-32001 all cars have problems..i too got the camry pics on fire...it's just the way they bash senseleslly about proton that's make me mad... all cars have problems..i too got the camry pics on fire…it's just the way they bash senseleslly about proton that's make me mad…

]]> By: shaymen http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-31982 shaymen Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:29:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-31982 honda_driver said, January 18, 2006 @ 8:18 am ---------------------------------------------------------- i got that burning camry picture in my fon....i also have myvi pic with the rear arm problem,the vios window drop down and etc... honda_driver said,

January 18, 2006 @ 8:18 am

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i got that burning camry picture in my fon….i also have myvi pic with the rear arm problem,the vios window drop down and etc…

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-31981 rexis Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:23:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-31981 shaymen said, January 18, 2006 @ 9:44 am ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ahh, no problem getting in-n-out la, just feel that i hit more thing when getting in :p mabbe due to the high low seat i just feel the extra adjust handle on my seat very alien so i didnt play with it, scare i will got ejected out. Anyhow, i enjoy playing with the overdrive button on the auto gear handle... and what is the "coast" handle on the steering wheel for? A bit off topic liao! shaymen said,

January 18, 2006 @ 9:44 am

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Ahh, no problem getting in-n-out la, just feel that i hit more thing when getting in :p mabbe due to the high low seat i just feel the extra adjust handle on my seat very alien so i didnt play with it, scare i will got ejected out.

Anyhow, i enjoy playing with the overdrive button on the auto gear handle… and what is the "coast" handle on the steering wheel for?

A bit off topic liao!

]]> By: shaymen http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-31973 shaymen Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:44:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-31973 rexis said, January 18, 2006 @ 9:24 am ---------------------------------------------------------- i own a perdana v6 year 2000.there should be no problem gettin in and out....i think maybe u didnt adjust the perdana seat to lower positiion bcos it has an adjustable high low seat.. no,i didnt write any letter to go for the road test.i use satria for the road test that time..donno bout the mousedeer lah my fren.maybe i didnt fit in too....huhuhuhuhuhuhu! rexis said,

January 18, 2006 @ 9:24 am

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i own a perdana v6 year 2000.there should be no problem gettin in and out….i think maybe u didnt adjust the perdana seat to lower positiion bcos it has an adjustable high low seat..

no,i didnt write any letter to go for the road test.i use satria for the road test that time..donno bout the mousedeer lah my fren.maybe i didnt fit in too….huhuhuhuhuhuhu!

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2006/01/14/2006-proton-waja-campro/#comment-31968 rexis Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:24:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=684#comment-31968 shaymen, it is true that I found that wira has more more distance from roof to my head then perdana(the new perdana), actually maybe just because the wira seats are lower. Harder to squezz in to driver seat compare to wira, less leg space due to the seat cant be adjusted as far as wira. Maybe perdana total interior is bigger then wira but I am talking about driver seat. Anyhow, more fun to drive perdana then wira, obviously the best car proton can offered (although the back view mirror falled off, changed the whole wind screen under warrenty - the mirror is sticked on the wind screen) Ahhh, another 190cm person? Just curious, do you need to write a letter to apply for road test using an Iswara rather then using the standard road test kancil? I do, and therefore Im using an Iswara with power steering to road test :p shaymen, it is true that I found that wira has more more distance from roof to my head then perdana(the new perdana), actually maybe just because the wira seats are lower. Harder to squezz in to driver seat compare to wira, less leg space due to the seat cant be adjusted as far as wira. Maybe perdana total interior is bigger then wira but I am talking about driver seat. Anyhow, more fun to drive perdana then wira, obviously the best car proton can offered (although the back view mirror falled off, changed the whole wind screen under warrenty – the mirror is sticked on the wind screen)

Ahhh, another 190cm person? Just curious, do you need to write a letter to apply for road test using an Iswara rather then using the standard road test kancil? I do, and therefore Im using an Iswara with power steering to road test :p

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