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	<title>Comments on: Proton to use Petronas E01 family engines?</title>
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		<title>By: Nicotineman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-104077</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicotineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...hehe sorry me too lazy to go through too much on those technical terms of cars or engines or whatever :D
...sometimes too much thinking, brings no actions :D

...our leaders want us to support our own national cars but they dont even lead a good example :D

...me working in s&#039;pore, earning S$2000/mth, living in JB, everyday take bus across that crazed causeway, what car can i truly afford? :D

...still remembered 3yrs ago how i bought my first car :D

...walked into a proton shop, looked, touched, &amp; sitted in a new design which they call a Gen2 :D

...not even a test drive was made, i paid RM10000 and loaned 5yrs and waited 6mths for their 1st patch to come out from their oven :D

...i paid in Mar&#039;03, finally exciting and happily driving her home in Sep&#039;03, one of the kind on JB roads :D

...within 6mths, added volt stab, air charger, 60&#039; GT spoiler which is normally used for a Supra (RM1250), 4 tubes of under carriage blue neon lights (RM 1000), damn cute and nice for being one of the 1st on JB roads :D

...Jun&#039;04, finally after its manual say whatever engine care we should excerise, I decided to take her on a trip to KL :D

...Jun&#039;04, 0200, on JB-KL highway, right lane, someone up ahead started a race, 1st car=S&#039;pore Mercs CL Class, 2nd car=S&#039;pore Honda old civic, 3rd car=M&#039;sia old Waja, 4th car=Me :D M&#039;sia Gen2 Auto1.6 :D

...Speeding at the speed of Max.185km/hr, she felt so powerful, loud, but strangely stable unlike my dad&#039;s Wira 1.3 :D

...Then heavy rain came :D, and the 1st to give up was disappointing the Honda :D, next to give up was the Mercs, I had overtaken the Waja, but later I also drive more slowly and safely to the left, allowing the Waja to play with his own self :D

...At Seremban 2, a crashed Waja with its head on the centre divider was seen, till now, I still wonder if that was the same Waja in that night&#039;s little street race :S

...Till now, my fastest lap from JB-KL or KL-JB is still at 1hr45mins-2hrs, toll-toll, with a full tank, without rests in between :D

...Back on JB roads, when my girlfriend isn&#039;t on my car, my favorite hobby is still to challenge those proud ass S&#039;pore cars, those outsiders with their expensive imported cars like Evo/WRX/Mercs/BMW :D

...Their costs may be high, power/rims/pipes may be big, but their balls seems to be small :D

...It never fails to make me high whenever I beat them in a zig zag street race across the medium-heavy traffic during the nights :D

...My highest high was beating a white Nissan Fairlady from S&#039;pore, maybe life is always more important to those rich young punks :D

...My worst defeat was losing to a truly well mod Wira :D That damn skillful guy earned my salute and respect :D

...Using larger imported cars to beat smaller home grown cars will always be a shame :D

...But, Sad but true, the ladies seem to be attracted only to those bigger imported cars :D

...Will they ever change their thinkings?

...No matter how much I mod my beloved Gen2 whom had saved my life, they will still treat her as another proton car...

...So disappointing...

...Should I trade her in for another imported car just like those brand conscious proud ass losers?

...I think I just complete her last 1-2yrs of loans, save some cash, then decide again in 2008-2009 :D

...To those proton critics out there, after 3yrs+, my original paint is still as shiny as new, my windows still have not jammed, and after up and down JB-KL within 2hrs at 110-185km/hr countless times, my engine and automatic gear still have not exploded and never had I have a broke down at the roadside, why? :D

...I think its how we truly love our rides, that our rides would love us back :D

...I go for regular service at proton outlets, car wash every week, engine wash every 6mths, K&amp;H air filter, Shell&#039;s Red color petrol, STP&#039;s engine oil addon at every service, STP&#039;s complete petrol cleaning at every 6000km+, seldom parking in the sun, 90% in multi-storey car parks and home&#039;s shaded parking lot :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;hehe sorry me too lazy to go through too much on those technical terms of cars or engines or whatever <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8230;sometimes too much thinking, brings no actions <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;our leaders want us to support our own national cars but they dont even lead a good example <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;me working in s&#8217;pore, earning S$2000/mth, living in JB, everyday take bus across that crazed causeway, what car can i truly afford? <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;still remembered 3yrs ago how i bought my first car <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;walked into a proton shop, looked, touched, &amp; sitted in a new design which they call a Gen2 <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;not even a test drive was made, i paid RM10000 and loaned 5yrs and waited 6mths for their 1st patch to come out from their oven <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;i paid in Mar&#8217;03, finally exciting and happily driving her home in Sep&#8217;03, one of the kind on JB roads <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;within 6mths, added volt stab, air charger, 60&#8242; GT spoiler which is normally used for a Supra (RM1250), 4 tubes of under carriage blue neon lights (RM 1000), damn cute and nice for being one of the 1st on JB roads <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;Jun&#8217;04, finally after its manual say whatever engine care we should excerise, I decided to take her on a trip to KL <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;Jun&#8217;04, 0200, on JB-KL highway, right lane, someone up ahead started a race, 1st car=S&#8217;pore Mercs CL Class, 2nd car=S&#8217;pore Honda old civic, 3rd car=M&#8217;sia old Waja, 4th car=Me <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  M&#8217;sia Gen2 Auto1.6 <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;Speeding at the speed of Max.185km/hr, she felt so powerful, loud, but strangely stable unlike my dad&#8217;s Wira 1.3 <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;Then heavy rain came <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> , and the 1st to give up was disappointing the Honda <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> , next to give up was the Mercs, I had overtaken the Waja, but later I also drive more slowly and safely to the left, allowing the Waja to play with his own self <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;At Seremban 2, a crashed Waja with its head on the centre divider was seen, till now, I still wonder if that was the same Waja in that night&#8217;s little street race :S</p>
<p>&#8230;Till now, my fastest lap from JB-KL or KL-JB is still at 1hr45mins-2hrs, toll-toll, with a full tank, without rests in between <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;Back on JB roads, when my girlfriend isn&#8217;t on my car, my favorite hobby is still to challenge those proud ass S&#8217;pore cars, those outsiders with their expensive imported cars like Evo/WRX/Mercs/BMW <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;Their costs may be high, power/rims/pipes may be big, but their balls seems to be small <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;It never fails to make me high whenever I beat them in a zig zag street race across the medium-heavy traffic during the nights <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;My highest high was beating a white Nissan Fairlady from S&#8217;pore, maybe life is always more important to those rich young punks <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;My worst defeat was losing to a truly well mod Wira <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  That damn skillful guy earned my salute and respect <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;Using larger imported cars to beat smaller home grown cars will always be a shame <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;But, Sad but true, the ladies seem to be attracted only to those bigger imported cars <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;Will they ever change their thinkings?</p>
<p>&#8230;No matter how much I mod my beloved Gen2 whom had saved my life, they will still treat her as another proton car&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;So disappointing&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;Should I trade her in for another imported car just like those brand conscious proud ass losers?</p>
<p>&#8230;I think I just complete her last 1-2yrs of loans, save some cash, then decide again in 2008-2009 <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;To those proton critics out there, after 3yrs+, my original paint is still as shiny as new, my windows still have not jammed, and after up and down JB-KL within 2hrs at 110-185km/hr countless times, my engine and automatic gear still have not exploded and never had I have a broke down at the roadside, why? <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;I think its how we truly love our rides, that our rides would love us back <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;I go for regular service at proton outlets, car wash every week, engine wash every 6mths, K&amp;H air filter, Shell&#8217;s Red color petrol, STP&#8217;s engine oil addon at every service, STP&#8217;s complete petrol cleaning at every 6000km+, seldom parking in the sun, 90% in multi-storey car parks and home&#8217;s shaded parking lot <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Assorted Proton announcements</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-48884</link>
		<dc:creator>Assorted Proton announcements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Proton reports that the Memorandum of Intent between Proton and Petronas has ended, and both parties are now assessing alternative engine sourcing opportunities. I am not sure if I am right, but from what I can understand by &#8220;assessing alternatives&#8221;, it looks like Proton will not be using the Petronas E01-based technology for it&#8217;s larger displacement engines. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Proton reports that the Memorandum of Intent between Proton and Petronas has ended, and both parties are now assessing alternative engine sourcing opportunities. I am not sure if I am right, but from what I can understand by &#8220;assessing alternatives&#8221;, it looks like Proton will not be using the Petronas E01-based technology for it&#8217;s larger displacement engines. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ichiban</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-40183</link>
		<dc:creator>ichiban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P1 must be careful using Petronas engine. Petronas only know good in drilling oil not making engine. Can their engine go to Europe for higher step such as step 4 emissions? 
I heard very expensive plak tuh.. P1 tolong Petronas or who should help who?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P1 must be careful using Petronas engine. Petronas only know good in drilling oil not making engine. Can their engine go to Europe for higher step such as step 4 emissions?<br />
I heard very expensive plak tuh.. P1 tolong Petronas or who should help who?</p>
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		<title>By: Proton back in black; partnership with PSA Peugoet Citroen &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-40031</link>
		<dc:creator>Proton back in black; partnership with PSA Peugoet Citroen &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 17:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As for the talks with PSA Peugoet Citroen, Syed Zainal said they have been going well, and the partnership is expected to be broader than the one it has currently with Mitsubishi. Proton currently has partnerships with Volkswagen and Mitsubishi, and is in talks with Chery Automotive of China. It&#8217;s subsidiary Lotus Engineering is also in talks with JinHua Youngman, another Chinese automotive company. Proton also has an agreement with Petronas to jointly develop larger capacity engines of 1.8 liter to 2.2 liter. Proton&#8217;s own Campro currently serves the 1.3 liter and 1.6 liter range. Talks with an Indian partner are also underway. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As for the talks with PSA Peugoet Citroen, Syed Zainal said they have been going well, and the partnership is expected to be broader than the one it has currently with Mitsubishi. Proton currently has partnerships with Volkswagen and Mitsubishi, and is in talks with Chery Automotive of China. It&#8217;s subsidiary Lotus Engineering is also in talks with JinHua Youngman, another Chinese automotive company. Proton also has an agreement with Petronas to jointly develop larger capacity engines of 1.8 liter to 2.2 liter. Proton&#8217;s own Campro currently serves the 1.3 liter and 1.6 liter range. Talks with an Indian partner are also underway. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What has Proton been up to? &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32747</link>
		<dc:creator>What has Proton been up to? &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To me it doesn&#8217;t really make much sense to have partnerships with both Mitsubishi and Volkswagen, and even recently Petronas on technical issues. This muhibbah rojak wouldn&#8217;t help with Proton&#8217;s economies of scale at all. What we have now is a few different platforms, old and new, using engines from 3 different manufacturers (Mitsubishi, Renault and Campro). Proton has to have only one or two platforms that can be adapted to numerous body styles, like Lotus Group&#8217;s Versatile Vehicle Architecture. With common parts. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To me it doesn&#8217;t really make much sense to have partnerships with both Mitsubishi and Volkswagen, and even recently Petronas on technical issues. This muhibbah rojak wouldn&#8217;t help with Proton&#8217;s economies of scale at all. What we have now is a few different platforms, old and new, using engines from 3 different manufacturers (Mitsubishi, Renault and Campro). Proton has to have only one or two platforms that can be adapted to numerous body styles, like Lotus Group&#8217;s Versatile Vehicle Architecture. With common parts. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe v2.0</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32728</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe v2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At last.. the E01 engine in proton cars.. 

as far as i know, the campro engine has nothing to do with EO1 engine.  E01 was made by petronas while campro was develop by proton with lotus.  Whereas the E01 have a variable valve mechanism while campro dont - although they planned to come out the that mechanism in campro engine but until now still nothing yet on the road - originally campro refers to - CAM PROfiling that is different type of cam profiling in an engine package thus giving a variable valve timing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last.. the E01 engine in proton cars.. </p>
<p>as far as i know, the campro engine has nothing to do with EO1 engine.  E01 was made by petronas while campro was develop by proton with lotus.  Whereas the E01 have a variable valve mechanism while campro dont &#8211; although they planned to come out the that mechanism in campro engine but until now still nothing yet on the road &#8211; originally campro refers to &#8211; CAM PROfiling that is different type of cam profiling in an engine package thus giving a variable valve timing.</p>
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		<title>By: superman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32725</link>
		<dc:creator>superman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CAMPRO is actually based on the 4G13/4G15/4G16 engines albeit with a DOHC configuration</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CAMPRO is actually based on the 4G13/4G15/4G16 engines albeit with a DOHC configuration</p>
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		<title>By: honda_driver</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32714</link>
		<dc:creator>honda_driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this engine has been sitting around doing nothing for such a long time. i think petronas needs protons help to bring it to market. 

they probably have to do a lot of re-engineering to make sure its up for mass production, durability, emmissions..etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this engine has been sitting around doing nothing for such a long time. i think petronas needs protons help to bring it to market. </p>
<p>they probably have to do a lot of re-engineering to make sure its up for mass production, durability, emmissions..etc.</p>
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		<title>By: catborg</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32708</link>
		<dc:creator>catborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice engine? Heh.. evybody want spartpart murah ler.. tak guna enjin power. nanti ramai bising cakap tak bagus.. Sebab spartpart susah la.. itu laa ini.. (selalu malaysian mesti ini macam punya). 

2.0 = For Perdana? Cool! (But please no ugly look) :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice engine? Heh.. evybody want spartpart murah ler.. tak guna enjin power. nanti ramai bising cakap tak bagus.. Sebab spartpart susah la.. itu laa ini.. (selalu malaysian mesti ini macam punya). </p>
<p>2.0 = For Perdana? Cool! (But please no ugly look) <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Isamu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32698</link>
		<dc:creator>Isamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 08:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

the VE of this engine is rated at 107.8% but at how many revs?

Even if this engine goes into mass production, there&#039;s still a question of reliability pf the engine and the transmission.. lancer cvt? i must be dreaming..

Proton should at least provide this engine as an option..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>the VE of this engine is rated at 107.8% but at how many revs?</p>
<p>Even if this engine goes into mass production, there&#8217;s still a question of reliability pf the engine and the transmission.. lancer cvt? i must be dreaming..</p>
<p>Proton should at least provide this engine as an option..</p>
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		<title>By: Apai_Mau</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32666</link>
		<dc:creator>Apai_Mau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nice engine which can be interchangeable from car to car being underpowered? Hopefully aftermarket power ups should arrive as soon as P1&#039;s 1st model utilises the E01</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice engine which can be interchangeable from car to car being underpowered? Hopefully aftermarket power ups should arrive as soon as P1&#8217;s 1st model utilises the E01</p>
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		<title>By: catborg</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32646</link>
		<dc:creator>catborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proton wanna make a SPORT CAR? .. 
better i write in BM sometime laah.. :D 

Saya suka membaca tentang ekonomi. Pernah terkeluar satu teori yang mungkin tidak munasabah, tapi barangkali ada betulnya. Ini adalah teori saya sendiri. Tidak perlu diambil berat pun. ;)

Mengapa deal dengan WV gagal? adakah sengaja digagalkan oleh proton? atau ketidaksetujuan  WV? Sebabnya bagi saya ada satu perkara yang agak menarik berlaku baru2 ini. Saya kira paul LUPA MEMBUAT REVIEW, tentang TEAM BARU PETRONAS F1. Sila ke : http://www.bmw-sauber-f1.com/html/en/index.html
Sekarang Sauber share telah diambil alih oleh BMW. Cuma nama sauber sengaja dikekalkan. Petronas tetap penaja besar. 

Petronas sudah rapat dengan BMW, iaitu gergasi paling besar dalam teknologi kenderaan. Sebut sahaja apa teknologi yang ada sekarang, kebanyakkannya dirintis oleh BMW! As claimed =Ultimate driving machine. 

Pandangan saya pada Petonas + Proton ini adalah perkongsian pintar. Petronas akan belajar dengan BMW, perpindahan teknologi akan terjadi secara langsung atau tidak langsung. Bagi saya nilainya amat besar. Tidak mustahil kita boleh menjadi BMW asia. Perkongsian ini juga menguntungkan BMW, menjadikan malaysia PORTnya.

Soalan yang berlegar difikiran saya : Mengapa perlukan WV sedangkan BMW lagi bagus?  Tidak hairan juga deal dengan mitsubshi tidak menjadi. Proton Berlagak? Tidak!, lagipun saya nampak orang lain (VW dan Mitsu ) yang kompang dan kecoh lebih mengeluarkan statement yang selfish atau sengaja seperti mahu menjatuhkan proton?) Atau mungkin mereka nampak sesuaut yang orang lazim orang biasa, rakyat TIDAK NAMPAK?
Politik kelas atasan yang selalu pening itu selalunya membawa penilaian yang pening bagi kita orang biasa, tapi kemungkinan tetap ada.. Kerana apa? atas apa saya percaya? 

ATAS SEBAB PETRONAS DAN PROTON ADALAH SYARIKAT KEPUNYAAN MALAYSIA!. Tidak mustahil satu2 keputusan (decission) itu saling berkaitan. ;) 

THE WAY YOU GO PROTON! And PETRONAS TOO!!.. 

// jangan tidak percaya jika saya katakan ada kebarangkalian BMW Sauber Petronas (masih membawa nama malaysia!) boleh menduduk 3 podium teratas F1 pada tahun ini. (kerana BMW dan enjin V8 sudah biasa bla bla hitech etc! ) 
// saya tetap menyokong sauber petronas dan anti ferrari sejak dulu. Masa akan buktikan tambahan wujudnya BMW dan PETRONAS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proton wanna make a SPORT CAR? ..<br />
better i write in BM sometime laah.. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Saya suka membaca tentang ekonomi. Pernah terkeluar satu teori yang mungkin tidak munasabah, tapi barangkali ada betulnya. Ini adalah teori saya sendiri. Tidak perlu diambil berat pun. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mengapa deal dengan WV gagal? adakah sengaja digagalkan oleh proton? atau ketidaksetujuan  WV? Sebabnya bagi saya ada satu perkara yang agak menarik berlaku baru2 ini. Saya kira paul LUPA MEMBUAT REVIEW, tentang TEAM BARU PETRONAS F1. Sila ke : <a href="http://www.bmw-sauber-f1.com/html/en/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bmw-sauber-f1.com/html/en/index.html</a><br />
Sekarang Sauber share telah diambil alih oleh BMW. Cuma nama sauber sengaja dikekalkan. Petronas tetap penaja besar. </p>
<p>Petronas sudah rapat dengan BMW, iaitu gergasi paling besar dalam teknologi kenderaan. Sebut sahaja apa teknologi yang ada sekarang, kebanyakkannya dirintis oleh BMW! As claimed =Ultimate driving machine. </p>
<p>Pandangan saya pada Petonas + Proton ini adalah perkongsian pintar. Petronas akan belajar dengan BMW, perpindahan teknologi akan terjadi secara langsung atau tidak langsung. Bagi saya nilainya amat besar. Tidak mustahil kita boleh menjadi BMW asia. Perkongsian ini juga menguntungkan BMW, menjadikan malaysia PORTnya.</p>
<p>Soalan yang berlegar difikiran saya : Mengapa perlukan WV sedangkan BMW lagi bagus?  Tidak hairan juga deal dengan mitsubshi tidak menjadi. Proton Berlagak? Tidak!, lagipun saya nampak orang lain (VW dan Mitsu ) yang kompang dan kecoh lebih mengeluarkan statement yang selfish atau sengaja seperti mahu menjatuhkan proton?) Atau mungkin mereka nampak sesuaut yang orang lazim orang biasa, rakyat TIDAK NAMPAK?<br />
Politik kelas atasan yang selalu pening itu selalunya membawa penilaian yang pening bagi kita orang biasa, tapi kemungkinan tetap ada.. Kerana apa? atas apa saya percaya? </p>
<p>ATAS SEBAB PETRONAS DAN PROTON ADALAH SYARIKAT KEPUNYAAN MALAYSIA!. Tidak mustahil satu2 keputusan (decission) itu saling berkaitan. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>THE WAY YOU GO PROTON! And PETRONAS TOO!!.. </p>
<p>// jangan tidak percaya jika saya katakan ada kebarangkalian BMW Sauber Petronas (masih membawa nama malaysia!) boleh menduduk 3 podium teratas F1 pada tahun ini. (kerana BMW dan enjin V8 sudah biasa bla bla hitech etc! )<br />
// saya tetap menyokong sauber petronas dan anti ferrari sejak dulu. Masa akan buktikan tambahan wujudnya BMW dan PETRONAS!</p>
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		<title>By: i'm run</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32644</link>
		<dc:creator>i'm run</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At last... but they were suppose to work together a long time ago... what a waste of time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last&#8230; but they were suppose to work together a long time ago&#8230; what a waste of time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nizam80</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32643</link>
		<dc:creator>nizam80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 04:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phew.... At last. I think Proton is going to do well in the near future. It&#039;s a partnership i&#039;ve been dreaming of since the E01 launch.  :) Picture this: Campro engine for 1.3, and 1.6, and Petronas engineered engine for 1.8 and 2.2. Hey... 1.8 and 2.2 liter?????? I hear Proton PUTRA, and PERDANA replacements....  :?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phew&#8230;. At last. I think Proton is going to do well in the near future. It&#8217;s a partnership i&#8217;ve been dreaming of since the E01 launch.  <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Picture this: Campro engine for 1.3, and 1.6, and Petronas engineered engine for 1.8 and 2.2. Hey&#8230; 1.8 and 2.2 liter?????? I hear Proton PUTRA, and PERDANA replacements&#8230;.  <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' /> ????</p>
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		<title>By: shooter</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32642</link>
		<dc:creator>shooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this sounds absolutely great, but we still can&#039;t come up with our own transmission....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this sounds absolutely great, but we still can&#8217;t come up with our own transmission&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: aksMs</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32640</link>
		<dc:creator>aksMs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, this is what I would like to hear from Proton. Now they are talking. Well, too bad if it has to be with the de-tune spec. cause the original E01 is one hell of an engine. Nevertheless, the point is that finally the 2P&#039;s will collabrate in producing a &#039;Made in Malaysia&#039; engine. Imagine the technology transfer that Petronas has got from so many years of involvement in F1 with Ferrari&#039;s and beginning this year, BMW. How much technology that they&#039;ve got, and how much they will get in the future, I don&#039;t know for sure. But they should get the credit if the technology at hand is bein put to good use.

Make it happen. Then we can call it our national pride.
Happy New Year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, this is what I would like to hear from Proton. Now they are talking. Well, too bad if it has to be with the de-tune spec. cause the original E01 is one hell of an engine. Nevertheless, the point is that finally the 2P&#8217;s will collabrate in producing a &#8216;Made in Malaysia&#8217; engine. Imagine the technology transfer that Petronas has got from so many years of involvement in F1 with Ferrari&#8217;s and beginning this year, BMW. How much technology that they&#8217;ve got, and how much they will get in the future, I don&#8217;t know for sure. But they should get the credit if the technology at hand is bein put to good use.</p>
<p>Make it happen. Then we can call it our national pride.<br />
Happy New Year!</p>
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		<title>By: Wai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32636</link>
		<dc:creator>Wai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what i meant by watered down version would be lower compression, safer fueling maps and perhaps lower volumetric efficiency than the original E01 which produces 200hp on paper

about the Campro project being a variant of E01, have no idea...but 200 hp + VVT @ 2 liter capacity is completely usable on d road IMHO...its not that highly strung till you receive unstable idling and such</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what i meant by watered down version would be lower compression, safer fueling maps and perhaps lower volumetric efficiency than the original E01 which produces 200hp on paper</p>
<p>about the Campro project being a variant of E01, have no idea&#8230;but 200 hp + VVT @ 2 liter capacity is completely usable on d road IMHO&#8230;its not that highly strung till you receive unstable idling and such</p>
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		<title>By: adamckc</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32629</link>
		<dc:creator>adamckc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe another year or two before we really see any real thing..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe another year or two before we really see any real thing..</p>
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		<title>By: nizam80</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32628</link>
		<dc:creator>nizam80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... i just want a confirmation. Is it true that the Campro project is actually based on the Petronas E01 engine. I remembered that the E01 is a powerful 2-liter engine producing 200hp. The Campro 1.6-liter, 110hp is actually a watered-down version of the E01 (they simply lower the E01&#039;s engine capacity and horsepower to make it suitable for road use). Is this true? Any comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; i just want a confirmation. Is it true that the Campro project is actually based on the Petronas E01 engine. I remembered that the E01 is a powerful 2-liter engine producing 200hp. The Campro 1.6-liter, 110hp is actually a watered-down version of the E01 (they simply lower the E01&#8217;s engine capacity and horsepower to make it suitable for road use). Is this true? Any comments?</p>
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		<title>By: E-Nabill</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32625</link>
		<dc:creator>E-Nabill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>didnt hundai signed a contract with petronas regarding the engines abt a yr ago??</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Tan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32608</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 06:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would definitely be watered down. Engines that are mass produced cannot retain the same precision in measurements. Would have to be detuned for reliability sakes. That&#039;s why people send engines for blueprinting and balancing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would definitely be watered down. Engines that are mass produced cannot retain the same precision in measurements. Would have to be detuned for reliability sakes. That&#8217;s why people send engines for blueprinting and balancing.</p>
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		<title>By: Wai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32605</link>
		<dc:creator>Wai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 06:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This E01 engine is hawttttt, but my guess would be proton would have the watered down version to cut costs and such, as usual malaysia cars are always lower spec :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This E01 engine is hawttttt, but my guess would be proton would have the watered down version to cut costs and such, as usual malaysia cars are always lower spec <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32596</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us hope that everything will going according to plan.:)</description>
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		<title>By: cbljkkj</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32590</link>
		<dc:creator>cbljkkj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At last Proton actually may know what they are doing. Its about time they put their &quot;patriotism&quot; to good use which in this case is the engine. Very fine specs I have to admit. Lets see how this turns out ;) 

Gong Hei Fatt Choi to all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last Proton actually may know what they are doing. Its about time they put their &#8220;patriotism&#8221; to good use which in this case is the engine. Very fine specs I have to admit. Lets see how this turns out <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Gong Hei Fatt Choi to all</p>
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		<title>By: ir_entau</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/01/29/proton-to-use-petronas-e01-family-engines/#comment-32589</link>
		<dc:creator>ir_entau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...at last partnership i really like to see..i like how things are going and hope that this partnership will remain soon i hope when the first car came out with this partnership we can say proudly that i own a &quot;Proton&quot;...and Happy CNY to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;at last partnership i really like to see..i like how things are going and hope that this partnership will remain soon i hope when the first car came out with this partnership we can say proudly that i own a &#8220;Proton&#8221;&#8230;and Happy CNY to all.</p>
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