Comments on: Tengku Mahaleel seeks damages http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Wed, 23 May 2012 18:08:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: outspoken http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33420 outspoken Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:24:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33420 suddenly, the term "FAT CATS" comes to to mind.. suddenly, the term "FAT CATS" comes to to mind..

]]> By: mycar_stolen http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33393 mycar_stolen Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:38:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33393 my car was stolen, they took it with a tow truck, on bright daylight....watch out guys... they are always people who likes to make easy money my car was stolen, they took it with a tow truck, on bright daylight….watch out guys… they are always people who likes to make easy money

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33349 nizam80 Sat, 11 Feb 2006 02:14:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33349 Hmm... if he's still in Proton, who knows what he will be doing. I'm sure Proton will have more cars coming. Remember Proton Ultimate? Hmm… if he's still in Proton, who knows what he will be doing. I'm sure Proton will have more cars coming. Remember Proton Ultimate?

]]> By: Jake http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33317 Jake Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:15:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33317 i suppose we all just dont know the real inside-inside story meh....wait for the court day lah.... i respect TM, he's done tremendously for proton and national automotive...guy like him got value- he used to work for Shell wright? thanx a lot TM! ...but he's time at/with proton has ended let's move forward... ...but it's his right to sue, what, let him be... ;-) i suppose we all just dont know the real inside-inside story meh….wait for the court day lah…. i respect TM, he's done tremendously for proton and national automotive…guy like him got value- he used to work for Shell wright? thanx a lot TM!

…but he's time at/with proton has ended let's move forward…

…but it's his right to sue, what, let him be… ;-)

]]> By: pycazu http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33311 pycazu Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:56:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33311 I see no reason TM will win in this case, really annoying to see these over-paid moron "CEO" digging money from their former companies, so many such cases. They should remain the manner after step-down, after all, they had been paid on what they have done, whether good or bad. I see no reason TM will win in this case, really annoying to see these over-paid moron "CEO" digging money from their former companies, so many such cases. They should remain the manner after step-down, after all, they had been paid on what they have done, whether good or bad.

]]> By: Bigjoe http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33309 Bigjoe Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:58:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33309 I saw something interesting in the Indonesia Press. Do you know that Indonesia now export more Automotive sector than Malaysia now? 85% of it is Toyota of which Avanza and Innova is most of it. Indonesia which does absolutely little for its automotive industry and Malaysia which does more than any other nation for its automotive industry can still do better because just one very good foreign car company tells you that there is little that government can really do for the long term competitiveness of the industry. I saw something interesting in the Indonesia Press. Do you know that Indonesia now export more Automotive sector than Malaysia now? 85% of it is Toyota of which Avanza and Innova is most of it.

Indonesia which does absolutely little for its automotive industry and Malaysia which does more than any other nation for its automotive industry can still do better because just one very good foreign car company tells you that there is little that government can really do for the long term competitiveness of the industry.

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33306 rexis Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:47:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33306 trying to dig as much as possible with they still can, really doubt any planning to save proton at all, all they thinking is their pocket pocket and pocket. There goes malaysian pride, flushed down to the toilet like overnite delicioucy. trying to dig as much as possible with they still can, really doubt any planning to save proton at all, all they thinking is their pocket pocket and pocket. There goes malaysian pride, flushed down to the toilet like overnite delicioucy.

]]> By: waimak http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33302 waimak Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:35:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33302 I think this is quite normal. Industrial Relation Acts (Section 20 if not mistaken) provides any employee been terminated to so called 'be defended' based on just cause. Mahleel has all rights to do this. The only this that matters is what's the IR court ruling after Proton (management) presented their side of the 'story'. If I was him, I would seek 'everything' too! Hehehe.. I think this is quite normal. Industrial Relation Acts (Section 20 if not mistaken) provides any employee been terminated to so called 'be defended' based on just cause. Mahleel has all rights to do this. The only this that matters is what's the IR court ruling after Proton (management) presented their side of the 'story'. If I was him, I would seek 'everything' too! Hehehe..

]]> By: stevarac http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33291 stevarac Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:56:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33291 This is so obvious, indirectly trying to force Proton's board to come out in the open with the answers on the 8 question that the 2TMs posed to the board on the 1 euro case. Way to go Mahaleel !!! Make transparency "visible " Don't settle for anything less than 2 euro for Lotus !! ha ha ha..... This is so obvious, indirectly trying to force Proton's board to come out in the open with the answers on the 8 question that the 2TMs posed to the board on the 1 euro case.

Way to go Mahaleel !!! Make transparency "visible " Don't settle for anything less than 2 euro for Lotus !! ha ha ha…..

]]> By: Isamu http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33284 Isamu Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:50:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33284 I doubt he'll win the case. The actual word used by Proton then were "non-renewal of contract". He was technically still the CEO for a further few months' time except that he was given "gardening leave" just like what Manchester United's ex-CEO Peter Kenyon did when Chelsea tapped thim up. I personally think he's not that silly to not know that. Could it be another individual who made him do that so as to open up a new avenue to continue attacking Proton? Afterall, Proton did not retaliate against another individual's previous scathing attack. ----- yhtan, In my opinion, he is the one who can be very much credited with continuously building up Proton's R&D capabilities. Without him, the Lotus influences would not be in Proton cars. When he was in power, Proton developed the Waja, Arena, Gen.2, Savvy and the yet to be launched New Satria and the now cancelled MSX (Lotus APX!). So many models in 6 years time is not a bad an effort. I'm not siding with him but he also very nearly gave us Proton assembled Volkswagens. It was after he left that the full-scaled partnership was cancelled due to the Government's insistence that Proton should stay independent, equity-wise. I think it is very clear that Tengku was doing what was required of him as a CEO to bring Proton forward. Think of it, he gave Proton an identity. Although still lagging behind, quality-wise, at least he injected soul into Proton cars, something to differentiate the Proton brand from other makes, by concentrating on ride and handling. Proton cars from Waja onwards are fun to drive even without electronic gizmos. A captain can only steer the ship but ultimately, it's a team effort. It's the same as being a president or a PM of any country. no matter how involved you are with the activities, you can only rely on people from the bottom or even the outside of the organisational chart for information and also for the the enormous amount of work to be done. Afterall, running a company this big, with this many activities, expectations and attention is not like running an SMI/SME with only a hundred employees. I doubt he'll win the case. The actual word used by Proton then were "non-renewal of contract". He was technically still the CEO for a further few months' time except that he was given "gardening leave" just like what Manchester United's ex-CEO Peter Kenyon did when Chelsea tapped thim up.

I personally think he's not that silly to not know that. Could it be another individual who made him do that so as to open up a new avenue to continue attacking Proton? Afterall, Proton did not retaliate against another individual's previous scathing attack.

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yhtan,

In my opinion, he is the one who can be very much credited with continuously building up Proton's R&D capabilities. Without him, the Lotus influences would not be in Proton cars. When he was in power, Proton developed the Waja, Arena, Gen.2, Savvy and the yet to be launched New Satria and the now cancelled MSX (Lotus APX!). So many models in 6 years time is not a bad an effort.

I'm not siding with him but he also very nearly gave us Proton assembled Volkswagens. It was after he left that the full-scaled partnership was cancelled due to the Government's insistence that Proton should stay independent, equity-wise.

I think it is very clear that Tengku was doing what was required of him as a CEO to bring Proton forward. Think of it, he gave Proton an identity. Although still lagging behind, quality-wise, at least he injected soul into Proton cars, something to differentiate the Proton brand from other makes, by concentrating on ride and handling. Proton cars from Waja onwards are fun to drive even without electronic gizmos.

A captain can only steer the ship but ultimately, it's a team effort. It's the same as being a president or a PM of any country. no matter how involved you are with the activities, you can only rely on people from the bottom or even the outside of the organisational chart for information and also for the the enormous amount of work to be done.

Afterall, running a company this big, with this many activities, expectations and attention is not like running an SMI/SME with only a hundred employees.

]]> By: yhtan http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33279 yhtan Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:28:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33279 what the hell,what he did to proton and yet he dare to bring this to court. Damn...all he want is money money money! what the hell,what he did to proton and yet he dare to bring this to court.

Damn…all he want is money money money!

]]> By: Initial D http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33278 Initial D Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:20:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33278 mayb this fight will result in both parties reveal the dark secrets of the other parties. Then, we will know the 'kisah benar' behind proton's fall from the top. mayb this fight will result in both parties reveal the dark secrets of the other parties. Then, we will know the 'kisah benar' behind proton's fall from the top.

]]> By: auyongtc http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33275 auyongtc Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:48:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33275 Proton should've hold up on selling MV Augusta, and just offload it to TM here... lol Proton should've hold up on selling MV Augusta, and just offload it to TM here… lol

]]> By: KingKong http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33267 KingKong Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:28:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33267 bagi kat dia RM xxx juta.. sure OK!! bagi kat dia RM xxx juta.. sure OK!!

]]> By: KingKong http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33266 KingKong Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:26:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33266 not saman but $$$$ "Tengku Mahaleel is seeking damages, and bonus for his termination" not saman but $$$$

"Tengku Mahaleel is seeking damages, and bonus for his termination"

]]> By: catborg http://paultan.org/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33256 catborg Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:43:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/09/tengku-mahaleel-seeks-damages/#comment-33256 it's PAYBACK TIME mahalel!.. saman jugak bad Mouth malaysian.. hahaha! it's PAYBACK TIME mahalel!..

saman jugak bad Mouth malaysian.. hahaha!

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