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	<title>Comments on: Perodua Myvi Rear Axle Snapped</title>
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		<title>By: JeremyNg</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-614487</link>
		<dc:creator>JeremyNg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 05:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bro , its 21st century d la ....... the harder the steel doesnt mean better !!! Nowadays we have something call G-force technology (forgotten de whole name), some part of the car body is soft to absorb impact some part is hard to protect drivers and passengers . Jz imagine if the whole car is made from very hard steel , will the driver survive if it crash ??!! No bcs no impact was absorb .......... Btw try Satria Neo, that car has the stiffest chasis in Proton Range</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bro , its 21st century d la &#8230;&#8230;. the harder the steel doesnt mean better !!! Nowadays we have something call G-force technology (forgotten de whole name), some part of the car body is soft to absorb impact some part is hard to protect drivers and passengers . Jz imagine if the whole car is made from very hard steel , will the driver survive if it crash ??!! No bcs no impact was absorb &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Btw try Satria Neo, that car has the stiffest chasis in Proton Range</p>
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		<title>By: Danix</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-488794</link>
		<dc:creator>Danix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 12:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh? my friend follow drag use kancil oso can pass boss..2bar only bah!
i guess this guy change the rollbar back bar 2 taiwan made pnya..thats why boss!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? my friend follow drag use kancil oso can pass boss..2bar only bah!<br />
i guess this guy change the rollbar back bar 2 taiwan made pnya..thats why boss!!</p>
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		<title>By: v1ctorong</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-471247</link>
		<dc:creator>v1ctorong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 04:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy,

from the photo you can see the MyVI is using rear disc Brake........

Also, the original MyVI using torsion beam for rear suspension.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy,</p>
<p>from the photo you can see the MyVI is using rear disc Brake&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Also, the original MyVI using torsion beam for rear suspension&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rocco</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-416045</link>
		<dc:creator>rocco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that could be one of the reason. besides than poor wielding, such small car as myvi shouldnt have disc brake at the back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that could be one of the reason. besides than poor wielding, such small car as myvi shouldnt have disc brake at the back.</p>
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		<title>By: rocco</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-416043</link>
		<dc:creator>rocco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust me.. Proton are the worst car manufacturer ever!! They can call themself  &quot;senior&quot; compare to Perodua... but i prefer Perodua because its made from high quality steel for their main body part. And that is important. Try hammer a Proton Pesona and Perodua Myvi.. U can see the different. That is because Proton using recycle steel and downgrade it to make it much cheaper and affordable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust me.. Proton are the worst car manufacturer ever!! They can call themself  &#8220;senior&#8221; compare to Perodua&#8230; but i prefer Perodua because its made from high quality steel for their main body part. And that is important. Try hammer a Proton Pesona and Perodua Myvi.. U can see the different. That is because Proton using recycle steel and downgrade it to make it much cheaper and affordable.</p>
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		<title>By: black cobra</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-296436</link>
		<dc:creator>black cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u all want to know something,myvi is in first number of the world recode car were sell in 2009,mybe untill 2011.. 
produa is the best..world recode plak tu.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u all want to know something,myvi is in first number of the world recode car were sell in 2009,mybe untill 2011..</p>
<p>produa is the best..world recode plak tu.. </p>
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		<title>By: firdio</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-202619</link>
		<dc:creator>firdio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from my experience n what i have see. the owner has been modified the beam. change drum brake to disc brake..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from my experience n what i have see. the owner has been modified the beam. change drum brake to disc brake..</p>
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		<title>By: koolspyda</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33862</link>
		<dc:creator>koolspyda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I am no automotive expert &lt;i&gt; if I&#039;m going to use semi slicks &amp; a modified struts/coilcovers for my car ;  
&gt;I WILL look into adding ADDITIONAL lower member braces to strengthen the load &amp; stress the car will be put into. thats me. semi slick can put in even higher loads into even the car&#039;s structural chassis over stock tyres (higher G&#039;s). 
 
I think i have a fair idea which part buckled out but i reserve my final judgment what part failedt / or whose fault is it ultimately . 
 
it could have happened to ANY car 
 
 
 
my thoughts on car&#039;s engineered to its &quot;userbility&quot; &amp; its &quot;potential&quot; 
 
sports cars = engineered to withstand typical sports car usage. 
 
a mazda miata is a lightweight sportcar which is gem on the road (driven) &amp; a great autocrosser. To sustain it to a usage in running off road rallies/ 4X4 terrains will definately see it sustained a lot of damage on joints &amp; create high stress on areas that werent designed for it. 
 
coming back to a small ecobox car designed for daily road use ~ it will do 99.9% of the time. 
 
to track it autocrossing well....  
 
but ecobox car isnt miata nor miata isnt a subaru STi. 
 
i dont remember seeing the rear axel snapped , rear member cross beam was twisted severely~acknowledged 
 
the snapped parts (see hosted picture) were; 
&gt;aftermarket the struts *boyaa*,  
&gt;cross beam mounting joint *boyaa*,  
&gt;drivers pride *boyaa&lt;/i&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I am no automotive expert <i> if I&#039;m going to use semi slicks &amp; a modified struts/coilcovers for my car ; </p>
<p>&gt;I WILL look into adding ADDITIONAL lower member braces to strengthen the load &amp; stress the car will be put into. thats me. semi slick can put in even higher loads into even the car&#039;s structural chassis over stock tyres (higher G&#039;s).</p>
<p>I think i have a fair idea which part buckled out but i reserve my final judgment what part failedt / or whose fault is it ultimately .</p>
<p>it could have happened to ANY car</p>
<p>my thoughts on car&#039;s engineered to its &quot;userbility&quot; &amp; its &quot;potential&quot;</p>
<p>sports cars = engineered to withstand typical sports car usage.</p>
<p>a mazda miata is a lightweight sportcar which is gem on the road (driven) &amp; a great autocrosser. To sustain it to a usage in running off road rallies/ 4X4 terrains will definately see it sustained a lot of damage on joints &amp; create high stress on areas that werent designed for it.</p>
<p>coming back to a small ecobox car designed for daily road use ~ it will do 99.9% of the time.</p>
<p>to track it autocrossing well&#8230;. </p>
<p>but ecobox car isnt miata nor miata isnt a subaru STi.</p>
<p>i dont remember seeing the rear axel snapped , rear member cross beam was twisted severely~acknowledged</p>
<p>the snapped parts (see hosted picture) were;</p>
<p>&gt;aftermarket the struts *boyaa*, </p>
<p>&gt;cross beam mounting joint *boyaa*, </p>
<p>&gt;drivers pride *boyaa</i> </p>
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		<title>By: superman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33738</link>
		<dc:creator>superman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lance said, 
February 20, 2006 @ 9:11 am  
 
I&#226;&#8364;&#8482;m not sure how this can be associated with Perodua. This car has been heavily modded - how/where is modded is anybody&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s guess. 
 
I find this post &#226;&#8364;&#339;informative&#226;&#8364; for reference purposes.  
 
Thanx.  
________________________________________________________________________ 
Modified by their own (Perodua&#039;s) R&amp;D team... that&#039;s how they can be associated. But hey they&#039;re learning. 
 
Better them breaking the car and learning while improving on it than some Joe on the street doing modification and not knowing which-what-way. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lance said,</p>
<p>February 20, 2006 @ 9:11 am </p>
<p>I&acirc;&euro;&trade;m not sure how this can be associated with Perodua. This car has been heavily modded &#8211; how/where is modded is anybody&acirc;&euro;&trade;s guess.</p>
<p>I find this post &acirc;&euro;&oelig;informative&acirc;&euro; for reference purposes. </p>
<p>Thanx. </p>
<p>________________________________________________________________________</p>
<p>Modified by their own (Perodua&#039;s) R&amp;D team&#8230; that&#039;s how they can be associated. But hey they&#039;re learning.</p>
<p>Better them breaking the car and learning while improving on it than some Joe on the street doing modification and not knowing which-what-way. </p>
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		<title>By: beavis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33723</link>
		<dc:creator>beavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heyy.....i was there when it happen...before this i though proton salesman was just spreading rumours bout myvi rear axle...but after ive seen this car with my very own eye...hmmmmm...it sadden me.myvi sucks! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heyy&#8230;..i was there when it happen&#8230;before this i though proton salesman was just spreading rumours bout myvi rear axle&#8230;but after ive seen this car with my very own eye&#8230;hmmmmm&#8230;it sadden me.myvi sucks! </p>
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		<title>By: gerald</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33708</link>
		<dc:creator>gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cbljkkj 
 
Sounds good. I hope I have not offended you or anything. I guess we just see things from a different point of view.  
 
But it should have been. If a car can pass a gymkhana successfully basically you have a solid car. If its &#039;developed&#039; for with light housing that can only stay on road. Then a lot of malaysians have been cheated. Honestly speaking. You have joined gymkhana&#039;s the stress level for the vehicle is not as tremendous depending on the trails. Unlike straight line and sideways where the stress levels are exceptionally high. IMHO gymkhana&#039;s are one of the midest event a stock car can participate in. It used to be a benchmark to measure the road worthyness of the vehicle. 
 
But all that asside. This could just be a case of bad judgement and just being plain unlucky. Maybe the vehicle had lil cracks at the torsion beams. And as we know, semi-slicks are very very grippy tires. Doing a u-turn... ouch... really sayang the semi-slicks la... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cbljkkj</p>
<p>Sounds good. I hope I have not offended you or anything. I guess we just see things from a different point of view. </p>
<p>But it should have been. If a car can pass a gymkhana successfully basically you have a solid car. If its &#039;developed&#039; for with light housing that can only stay on road. Then a lot of malaysians have been cheated. Honestly speaking. You have joined gymkhana&#039;s the stress level for the vehicle is not as tremendous depending on the trails. Unlike straight line and sideways where the stress levels are exceptionally high. IMHO gymkhana&#039;s are one of the midest event a stock car can participate in. It used to be a benchmark to measure the road worthyness of the vehicle.</p>
<p>But all that asside. This could just be a case of bad judgement and just being plain unlucky. Maybe the vehicle had lil cracks at the torsion beams. And as we know, semi-slicks are very very grippy tires. Doing a u-turn&#8230; ouch&#8230; really sayang the semi-slicks la&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: nitrog</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33693</link>
		<dc:creator>nitrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>superman said, 
February 20, 2006 @ 10:23 am  
 
It&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s a PERODUA MyVi Entered by Perodua&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s own R&amp;D team. They were the ones that performed the modifications to enter the car in the Autocross event. 
 
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If that is really the case then I take back what I said. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>superman said,</p>
<p>February 20, 2006 @ 10:23 am </p>
<p>It&acirc;&euro;&trade;s a PERODUA MyVi Entered by Perodua&acirc;&euro;&trade;s own R&amp;D team. They were the ones that performed the modifications to enter the car in the Autocross event.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>If that is really the case then I take back what I said. </p>
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		<title>By: rosdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>romeo.. the photos still available here &lt;a href=&quot;http://hasadi78.blogspot.com/2006/01/myvi-crash-during-sso-bkt-jalil.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://hasadi78.blogspot.com/2006/01/myvi-crash-d...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>romeo.. the photos still available here <a href="http://hasadi78.blogspot.com/2006/01/myvi-crash-during-sso-bkt-jalil.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://hasadi78.blogspot.com/2006/01/myvi-crash-d" rel="nofollow">http://hasadi78.blogspot.com/2006/01/myvi-crash-d</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: jet</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33681</link>
		<dc:creator>jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you all too apologetic lah to perodua 
 
check what&#039;s happening in autoworld when someone post this in perodua forum; some perodua supporter like crying, some going mad, some etc etc.... 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.autoworld.com.my/forum/allposts.asp?summary=1&amp;Forum=ap869408660&amp;access=2&amp;status=1&amp;subject=Myvi+fan%2C+please+dun+try+to+be+like+savvy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.autoworld.com.my/forum/allposts.asp?su...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you all too apologetic lah to perodua</p>
<p>check what&#039;s happening in autoworld when someone post this in perodua forum; some perodua supporter like crying, some going mad, some etc etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.autoworld.com.my/forum/allposts.asp?summary=1&amp;Forum=ap869408660&amp;access=2&amp;status=1&amp;subject=Myvi+fan%2C+please+dun+try+to+be+like+savvy" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.autoworld.com.my/forum/allposts.asp?su" rel="nofollow">http://www.autoworld.com.my/forum/allposts.asp?su</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: mrromeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrromeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone has saved the pics? please send it to me to jshamid@gmail.com </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone has saved the pics? please send it to me to <a href="mailto:jshamid@gmail.com">jshamid@gmail.com</a> </p>
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		<title>By: mrromeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrromeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel my proton iswara is much better than MYVi... well AM i regret to book one? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel my proton iswara is much better than MYVi&#8230; well AM i regret to book one? </p>
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		<title>By: rosdi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33670</link>
		<dc:creator>rosdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last comment in this thread..., all Myvi owners out there.. dont drive your car laju-laju... better safe than sorry.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last comment in this thread&#8230;, all Myvi owners out there.. dont drive your car laju-laju&#8230; better safe than sorry.. </p>
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		<title>By: rosdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul seems to be getting nervous about this.., why take down the posting? takut kena saman ke? hehehe.. 
 
Perodua cannot handle criticism as well as other manufacturers.. anybody who dare to critise them will be dragged to court.. hahaha..  
 
Don&#039;t worry la Paul.. what can they saman anyway? You are just posting the news, you didnt fitnah them what... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul seems to be getting nervous about this.., why take down the posting? takut kena saman ke? hehehe..</p>
<p>Perodua cannot handle criticism as well as other manufacturers.. anybody who dare to critise them will be dragged to court.. hahaha.. </p>
<p>Don&#039;t worry la Paul.. what can they saman anyway? You are just posting the news, you didnt fitnah them what&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: flizzardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>flizzardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said superman !  
 
anyway myvi just isnt suit for perfomance i guess! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said superman ! </p>
<p>anyway myvi just isnt suit for perfomance i guess! </p>
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		<title>By: motorhead</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33667</link>
		<dc:creator>motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well I am not suprised with this problem, I knew sooner or later this kind of stories about myvi problem would arise, because I am fully aware the quality of its product that produa offer to its customer. No doubt that produa use the technology and concept of daihatsu toyota but the level of quality is still produa standard. From my experience of using produa product for 5 years, what I can say is, &quot;suma setakat boleh pakai saja&quot;, the rear absorber only can last around 20k km, by some short period of time the plastic componen can shrink and hard, and will make strange sound, like klik and klak here and there. even the screws are the lowest quality, look like metal, but soft like plastic, even my motorbike&#039;s screws are better. What worse, produa&#039;s  spare parts are not cheap. 1 set of complete drive shaft for kancil, can cost you more than RM1000.00. Its a daylight robbery.Produa sells cheap cars, but damn expensive spare parts!  
 
As for myvi, the front hud is lighter than kancil&#039;s. The body plates are so thin. In term of solidness, produa cant compare with proton, But so sad, proton is lack of experience and make a lot of mistakes in design and mechanical function, see what happen to waja, I would like to wait until proton improve in this matter, and would switch to proton products in the future.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well I am not suprised with this problem, I knew sooner or later this kind of stories about myvi problem would arise, because I am fully aware the quality of its product that produa offer to its customer. No doubt that produa use the technology and concept of daihatsu toyota but the level of quality is still produa standard. From my experience of using produa product for 5 years, what I can say is, &quot;suma setakat boleh pakai saja&quot;, the rear absorber only can last around 20k km, by some short period of time the plastic componen can shrink and hard, and will make strange sound, like klik and klak here and there. even the screws are the lowest quality, look like metal, but soft like plastic, even my motorbike&#039;s screws are better. What worse, produa&#039;s  spare parts are not cheap. 1 set of complete drive shaft for kancil, can cost you more than RM1000.00. Its a daylight robbery.Produa sells cheap cars, but damn expensive spare parts! </p>
<p>As for myvi, the front hud is lighter than kancil&#039;s. The body plates are so thin. In term of solidness, produa cant compare with proton, But so sad, proton is lack of experience and make a lot of mistakes in design and mechanical function, see what happen to waja, I would like to wait until proton improve in this matter, and would switch to proton products in the future.. </p>
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		<title>By: superman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33657</link>
		<dc:creator>superman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nitrog said, 
February 18, 2006 @ 7:36 pm  
 
Who knows, could be a Proton sponsored Myvi driven by a Proton sponsored driver. It&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s a Proton sponsored event after all 
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It&#039;s a PERODUA MyVi Entered by Perodua&#039;s own R&amp;D team. They were the ones that performed the modifications to enter the car in the Autocross event. 
 
Silverstone FTZ semislicks and stiffer spring rates were fitted to the car.  
 
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bljkkj said, 
February 19, 2006 @ 5:02 am  
 
At least its a small problem that can be fixed. Better than all of the Proton cars I&#226;&#8364;&#8482;ve actually owned that have problems in every single one of them that. Proton still has not been able to mend them considering they have been making cars for 20 years 
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Um??  I don&#039;t think a ripped off rear axle is a small problem, as compared to a broken power window. 
 
Having the rear axle come out and calling it a small problem is like saying having a broken leg and calling it a tiny itch. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nitrog said,</p>
<p>February 18, 2006 @ 7:36 pm </p>
<p>Who knows, could be a Proton sponsored Myvi driven by a Proton sponsored driver. It&acirc;&euro;&trade;s a Proton sponsored event after all</p>
<p>__________________________________________________________________________</p>
<p>It&#039;s a PERODUA MyVi Entered by Perodua&#039;s own R&amp;D team. They were the ones that performed the modifications to enter the car in the Autocross event.</p>
<p>Silverstone FTZ semislicks and stiffer spring rates were fitted to the car. </p>
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<p>bljkkj said,</p>
<p>February 19, 2006 @ 5:02 am </p>
<p>At least its a small problem that can be fixed. Better than all of the Proton cars I&acirc;&euro;&trade;ve actually owned that have problems in every single one of them that. Proton still has not been able to mend them considering they have been making cars for 20 years</p>
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<p>Um??  I don&#039;t think a ripped off rear axle is a small problem, as compared to a broken power window.</p>
<p>Having the rear axle come out and calling it a small problem is like saying having a broken leg and calling it a tiny itch. </p>
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		<title>By: Joe v2.0</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33653</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe v2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i do agree on the further investigations in this matter, up until now, we can only guest or speculate things only..  
 
but the one thing I dont agree is, why is it always when other manufacturer problem arises, proton will be whacked also.. i mean that not that i  pura2 dont know any of proton quality problems, but i do really think that it is much2 better to talk it in a proton topic itself.  If not, other topic will be turn into another proton bashing topic.. again and again la.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do agree on the further investigations in this matter, up until now, we can only guest or speculate things only.. </p>
<p>but the one thing I dont agree is, why is it always when other manufacturer problem arises, proton will be whacked also.. i mean that not that i  pura2 dont know any of proton quality problems, but i do really think that it is much2 better to talk it in a proton topic itself.  If not, other topic will be turn into another proton bashing topic.. again and again la.. </p>
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		<title>By: lance</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33652</link>
		<dc:creator>lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how this can be associated with Perodua. This car has been heavily modded - how/where is modded is anybody&#039;s guess. 
 
I find this post &quot;informative&quot; for reference purposes.  
 
Thanx. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not sure how this can be associated with Perodua. This car has been heavily modded &#8211; how/where is modded is anybody&#039;s guess.</p>
<p>I find this post &quot;informative&quot; for reference purposes. </p>
<p>Thanx. </p>
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		<title>By: vale46</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33650</link>
		<dc:creator>vale46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Myvi is alang-alang modified one. Why do I say so? Look at the rear brake and the suspension system. It&#039;s using different suspension system and the rear brake is using disc brake already. Since the suspension system and the disc brake is modified, of cause the strength of the whole rear suspension system need to be raise also. For sure, after the car have been modified, the Myvi capability is higher but the strength of the rear axle is still at stock level. The modifier forgot to strengthen the rear axle. That&#039;s why it&#039;s broken. It can&#039;t co-op the braking strength and the new coil over system. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Myvi is alang-alang modified one. Why do I say so? Look at the rear brake and the suspension system. It&#039;s using different suspension system and the rear brake is using disc brake already. Since the suspension system and the disc brake is modified, of cause the strength of the whole rear suspension system need to be raise also. For sure, after the car have been modified, the Myvi capability is higher but the strength of the rear axle is still at stock level. The modifier forgot to strengthen the rear axle. That&#039;s why it&#039;s broken. It can&#039;t co-op the braking strength and the new coil over system. </p>
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		<title>By: Moanster</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33649</link>
		<dc:creator>Moanster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from the photo i have no idea that this is the original MYVI&#039;s rear axle(cant be aligned) or the modded(taken from other car) rear axle as u can view from the photo this is the 4 disc MYVI, if u take parts from other car and put into MYVI and later u claim this is MYVI&#039;s weakness, can u claim this is fair? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from the photo i have no idea that this is the original MYVI&#039;s rear axle(cant be aligned) or the modded(taken from other car) rear axle as u can view from the photo this is the 4 disc MYVI, if u take parts from other car and put into MYVI and later u claim this is MYVI&#039;s weakness, can u claim this is fair? </p>
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		<title>By: Ricc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoted HatukNgkau; oh by the way, small problems that never gets rectified after so many years IS HUGE problems! 
 
Then Protan have MANY BIG problems la.. :-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoted HatukNgkau; oh by the way, small problems that never gets rectified after so many years IS HUGE problems!</p>
<p>Then Protan have MANY BIG problems la.. <img src='http://vcdn2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: vale46</title>
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		<dc:creator>vale46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 08:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like this Myvi is already modified. U can see the rear brake is using disc brake and the rear suspension is different. I don&#039;t think the axle can withstand the pressure. They miss out to strengthing the rear axle after modifiying the rear brake and suspension system. I think, if the rear axle is also modified to increase the strength, I don&#039;t think this problem will happen. Modified alang-alang one... :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like this Myvi is already modified. U can see the rear brake is using disc brake and the rear suspension is different. I don&#039;t think the axle can withstand the pressure. They miss out to strengthing the rear axle after modifiying the rear brake and suspension system. I think, if the rear axle is also modified to increase the strength, I don&#039;t think this problem will happen. Modified alang-alang one&#8230; <img src='http://vcdn2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: HatukNgkau</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33639</link>
		<dc:creator>HatukNgkau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s see if there would be any official or formal investigation and the reports of it. we may speculate now, but until everything is confirmed, nobody from both sides has the absolute &quot;right&quot;. 
 
oh by the way, small problems that never gets rectified after so many years IS HUGE problems! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#039;s see if there would be any official or formal investigation and the reports of it. we may speculate now, but until everything is confirmed, nobody from both sides has the absolute &quot;right&quot;.</p>
<p>oh by the way, small problems that never gets rectified after so many years IS HUGE problems! </p>
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		<title>By: artraider</title>
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		<dc:creator>artraider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I.M.H.O.. a car shouldn&#039; t be this fragile. 
the incident happend in front of. further more the car is light. with less interiors. 
 
maybe it could be a improper modification done. maybe not. 
 
well, i just hope it&#039;s not. coz. i believe on road going MyVI will handle more strees as with a higher load. and sum of em do take corners quite fast.  
 
as for savvy. the only thing i didn&#039;t like was the my feet position.. i felt like hanging in the car. but it has great handling. toughnes?? it think it&#039;s proven in previous SSO5.5. 
 
anyway.. it&#039;s just my oppinions </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I.M.H.O.. a car shouldn&#039; t be this fragile.</p>
<p>the incident happend in front of. further more the car is light. with less interiors.</p>
<p>maybe it could be a improper modification done. maybe not.</p>
<p>well, i just hope it&#039;s not. coz. i believe on road going MyVI will handle more strees as with a higher load. and sum of em do take corners quite fast. </p>
<p>as for savvy. the only thing i didn&#039;t like was the my feet position.. i felt like hanging in the car. but it has great handling. toughnes?? it think it&#039;s proven in previous SSO5.5.</p>
<p>anyway.. it&#039;s just my oppinions </p>
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		<title>By: cbljkkj</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/#comment-33633</link>
		<dc:creator>cbljkkj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerald: 
 
I know what gymkhana is about because I have participated in a couple myself overseas.  I believe I am perfectly aware that I do not need a rocket ship to do gymkhana. I certainly learnt alot about my vehicles through gymkhana recreation. 
 
What I meant by &quot;these kind of cars are not really meant for this kind of gymkhana torture modified or not&quot; is that they were not developed for real rough housing in the first place like using a people carrier to go offroading. 
 
I am all for improving car parts and accesories because I do that myself. Now the aformentioned rear axle is said to be weak which I assume most likely is the original part that came with the car. That being said, the original part that is installed is not meant to take that kind of punishment.  
 
The same reason why you should not drift your car recklessly without tuning the suspension so that your car has a lower centre of gravity, using the correct amount of grip for the tyres, enough torque to control the drift and proper safety equiptment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerald:</p>
<p>I know what gymkhana is about because I have participated in a couple myself overseas.  I believe I am perfectly aware that I do not need a rocket ship to do gymkhana. I certainly learnt alot about my vehicles through gymkhana recreation.</p>
<p>What I meant by &quot;these kind of cars are not really meant for this kind of gymkhana torture modified or not&quot; is that they were not developed for real rough housing in the first place like using a people carrier to go offroading.</p>
<p>I am all for improving car parts and accesories because I do that myself. Now the aformentioned rear axle is said to be weak which I assume most likely is the original part that came with the car. That being said, the original part that is installed is not meant to take that kind of punishment. </p>
<p>The same reason why you should not drift your car recklessly without tuning the suspension so that your car has a lower centre of gravity, using the correct amount of grip for the tyres, enough torque to control the drift and proper safety equiptment. </p>
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