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	<title>Comments on: Proton courts Hindustan Motors for India market</title>
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		<title>By: Proton Updates: Q3 Profitable &#187;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proton Updates: Q3 Profitable &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As for the international markets, Proton is also close to finalising a collaboration for car assembly in China, is seeking for a new partnership in India, and has just launched the new Proton Savvy in a few countries including Australia, the UK, and Brunei. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As for the international markets, Proton is also close to finalising a collaboration for car assembly in China, is seeking for a new partnership in India, and has just launched the new Proton Savvy in a few countries including Australia, the UK, and Brunei. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mrromeo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/20/proton-courts-hindustan-motors-for-india-market/#comment-33742</link>
		<dc:creator>mrromeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a good joke... In early 1995s the body of ambassador does not comes with anti rust.. you can see rusted spots on the doors, running board etc in few years time. I remember when I was studying in India, I have to strip off and re-welding the whole new car to tahan the vibration of the engine... But that time I spent around RM 350 to do that.  But I beleive proton is not that bad... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a good joke&#8230; In early 1995s the body of ambassador does not comes with anti rust.. you can see rusted spots on the doors, running board etc in few years time. I remember when I was studying in India, I have to strip off and re-welding the whole new car to tahan the vibration of the engine&#8230; But that time I spent around RM 350 to do that.  But I beleive proton is not that bad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stevarac</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevarac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zerocool said 
&#226;&#8364; everything in the Ambassador makes a sound except the horn&#226;&#8364;. 
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This is a damn funny joke lah man. Good stuff !  
Just hope it doesn&#039;t become Protom motto. ha ha.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zerocool said</p>
<p>&acirc;&euro; everything in the Ambassador makes a sound except the horn&acirc;&euro;.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>This is a damn funny joke lah man. Good stuff ! </p>
<p>Just hope it doesn&#039;t become Protom motto. ha ha&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: zerocool</title>
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		<dc:creator>zerocool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well......there&#039;s couple of stuffs that&#039;s common between Proton and Hindustan Motors (HM) :- 
 
a) Both have Mitsubishi as technical partner 
b) Both are covered by goverment protectionism [HM&#039;s flagship model, the Ambassador , based on 1950&#039;s Morris Oxford (kereta penyu), had dominated the streets for over 40 years, till the Indian goverment opened up the Indian auto market in the 1990&#039;s, exposing HM out of protectionism] 
c) Boths&#039; flagship models (Proton - Proton Saga, HM - Ambassador) are still being sold, despite in production &gt; 20 years 
d) Boths&#039; flagship models still suffers from quality problem (even despite HM&#039;s latest attempt to revitalize Ambassador&#039;s sales recently by introducing facelifted Ambassador Avigo, minor changes had been made to the model - kereta still nampak macam penyu!). It was a common joke among indians that &quot; everything in the Ambassador makes a sound except the horn&quot;. It&#039;s normal to see rainwater leaking thru the doors of a Ambassador fresh from the factory. About Proton......i think you and me also know lar (power window) 
 
I think Proton and Mitsubishi are a very matching couple  ;) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;&#8230;there&#039;s couple of stuffs that&#039;s common between Proton and Hindustan Motors (HM) :-</p>
<p>a) Both have Mitsubishi as technical partner</p>
<p>b) Both are covered by goverment protectionism [HM&#039;s flagship model, the Ambassador , based on 1950&#039;s Morris Oxford (kereta penyu), had dominated the streets for over 40 years, till the Indian goverment opened up the Indian auto market in the 1990&#039;s, exposing HM out of protectionism]</p>
<p>c) Boths&#039; flagship models (Proton &#8211; Proton Saga, HM &#8211; Ambassador) are still being sold, despite in production &gt; 20 years</p>
<p>d) Boths&#039; flagship models still suffers from quality problem (even despite HM&#039;s latest attempt to revitalize Ambassador&#039;s sales recently by introducing facelifted Ambassador Avigo, minor changes had been made to the model &#8211; kereta still nampak macam penyu!). It was a common joke among indians that &quot; everything in the Ambassador makes a sound except the horn&quot;. It&#039;s normal to see rainwater leaking thru the doors of a Ambassador fresh from the factory. About Proton&#8230;&#8230;i think you and me also know lar (power window)</p>
<p>I think Proton and Mitsubishi are a very matching couple  <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mrromeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrromeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, p1 has planned to fall back to old technologies kot.... Even in their ambassadors are more reliable than protong. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hindmotor.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.hindmotor.com&lt;/a&gt;. Their famous receipe is their trekker diesel engine...maybe masuk their engine in PROTONG body... Boleh tahanker? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, p1 has planned to fall back to old technologies kot&#8230;. Even in their ambassadors are more reliable than protong. <a href="http://www.hindmotor.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hindmotor.com</a>. Their famous receipe is their trekker diesel engine&#8230;maybe masuk their engine in PROTONG body&#8230; Boleh tahanker?</p>
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		<title>By: kody</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/20/proton-courts-hindustan-motors-for-india-market/#comment-33666</link>
		<dc:creator>kody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wahlaueh, 
 
core market also cannot gain confident... then P1 still want to look for oversea markets... WTF... No any tremendeous improvement notice by customers... at least me... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wahlaueh,</p>
<p>core market also cannot gain confident&#8230; then P1 still want to look for oversea markets&#8230; WTF&#8230; No any tremendeous improvement notice by customers&#8230; at least me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: biggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>biggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from my yrs in M&#039;sia... we need someoe call Panjag to pathc up the hole on the road. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from my yrs in M&#039;sia&#8230; we need someoe call Panjag to pathc up the hole on the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Initial D</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/20/proton-courts-hindustan-motors-for-india-market/#comment-33660</link>
		<dc:creator>Initial D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pycazu, nvm, proton will build a flying machine and sell it there. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pycazu, nvm, proton will build a flying machine and sell it there.</p>
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		<title>By: pycazu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/02/20/proton-courts-hindustan-motors-for-india-market/#comment-33658</link>
		<dc:creator>pycazu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India road condition very sucked... Even in the big town like Bombay, main road have pot holes all around, especially during raining season. Wondering P1 car can withstand 1mth but without strange sound there... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India road condition very sucked&#8230; Even in the big town like Bombay, main road have pot holes all around, especially during raining season. Wondering P1 car can withstand 1mth but without strange sound there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: E-Nabill</title>
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		<dc:creator>E-Nabill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morris Minors Special Edition! if u see the type of cars sold in india,i tink proton will do very wel their! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morris Minors Special Edition! if u see the type of cars sold in india,i tink proton will do very wel their!</p>
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		<title>By: raptorclans</title>
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		<dc:creator>raptorclans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Hindustan Motors only sells reengineered Morris Minors... no? :P 
 
Well, who knows something good might turn out :D </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Hindustan Motors only sells reengineered Morris Minors&#8230; no? <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, who knows something good might turn out <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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