Malaysia National Automotive Policy

You will find after the jump the full text of the new National Automotive Policy, reproduced verbatim. Have had no time to read through it in full yet. Will post about it tonight. For now, it’s off to dinner. Enjoy.

NATIONAL AUTOMOTIVE POLICY

A. INTRODUCTION

Since the establishment of Proton in 1985, Malaysia has succeeded in developing integrated capabilities in the automotive industry, which include local design and styling capability, full scale manufacturing operations and extensive local participation in the supply of components. Today, Malaysia is ASEANs largest passenger vehicle market with more than 500,000 vehicles sold annually with 90% of that manufactured or assembled domestically.

Nevertheless, much of the countrys success in developing the domestic automotive industry has been facilitated by policies that have promoted local vehicle manufacturers and moving forward, global and domestic challenges put the sustainability of this industry at risk.

The global industry is seeing slow growth, value destruction and massive rationalisation, driving vehicle manufacturers to merge to achieve even higher levels of scale. Recognising this global environment, the National Automotive Policy (NAP) seeks to address the manifold issues and challenges and transform the domestic automotive sector to become a more viable, competitive and significant contributor to the economy.

Moving forward, Government policy and support will be focused towards automotive industry participants providing sustainable economic contribution. The key drivers for such contribution will be economic scale, industry linkage and competitive value added activities.

B. OBJECTIVES OF THE NATIONAL AUTOMOTIVE POLICY

The overall objective of the NAP is generating sustainable economic value creation. This will maximise the long term contribution of the automotive sector to the national economy and at the same time ultimately benefit the Malaysian consumer. The need to create economic value entails that the industry will continue to require supportive Government policies in order to become fully competitive internationally.

The NAP therefore aims to facilitate the required transformation and optimal integration of the national industry into regional and global industry networks. The urgency of the transformation is driven by an increasingly liberalised and competitive global environment. Consequently, the Government has set out the following objectives for the national automotive sector:

  • To promote a competitive and viable domestic automotive sector, in particular the national car manufacturers
  • To promote Malaysia as an automotive regional hub, focusing on niche areas
  • To promote a sustainable level of economic value added and enhance domestic capabilities
  • To promote a higher level of exports of vehicles as well as components and parts that are competitive in the global markets
  • To promote competitive and broad based Bumiputera participation in the domestic automotive sector
  • To safeguard the interests of consumers in terms of value for money, safety and quality of products and services

C. POLICY THRUSTS OF THE NATIONAL AUTOMOTIVE POLICY

  1. Provide Government support and incentives based on sustainable economic contribution
    The Government will continue to nurture and support the development of the domestic automotive sector via a comprehensive package of grants and incentives. Such Government support and incentives will be aimed at optimising sustainable economic contribution, namely the scale of operations, extent of industry linkages, and the development of local and Bumiputera capabilities.

    A sustainable level of economic contribution must ultimately relate to the type and level of value added activities, which will be competitive for the domestic market and for export in a fully liberalised environment. Thus, it would not be consistent with this policy to seek to maintain a level of value added activities which will not be viable and sustainable in the long run.

    The level of support will also be correlated to the level of economic contribution and value add. In this context, a large scale manufacturing concern with exports and high industry linkage will be favoured relative to a pure assembly operation with little value added activities. Similarly, greater emphasis will be given to sales, distribution and after sales activities compared to pure importation of vehicles.

    Support for manufacturing will come principally in the form of access to the Industrial Adjustment Fund and research & development (R&D) grants. These grants and incentives will be given based on pre-agreed conditions and timely achievement of Key Performance Indicators (KPIs).

  2. Increase scale via rationalisation to enhance competitiveness
    For the industry at large, all participants across the value chain will be encouraged to focus on achieving a scale of operations that ensures their enduring competitive viability.

    The Government will encourage rationalisation initiatives in the domestic automotive sector, in order to create a leaner and more sustainable industry structure. A leaner industry structure throughout the value chain will enable industry participants to achieve a sufficient level of scale to be competitive.

    In this respect, the Government will promote, through grants and incentives, two national manufacturers in the high-volume car segment to ensure sufficient scale and industry linkage. To enable achievement of required scale and industry linkage, these national manufacturers must be able to rationalise their models and platforms portfolio.

    The rationalisation at the vehicle manufacturers level will consequently enable rationalisation of the component sector that will lead to greater scale, skills and improved quality. The end result will be a smaller number of vendors, all of whom will be operating at a scale, cost and quality level that will allow them to remain competitive and be able to export.

  3. Promote strategic linkages with international partners
    Scale and focus are necessary to achieve greater competitiveness but in themselves, they are not sufficient. In addition, global best practices and industry linkage are other important key success factors for the automotive industry. Therefore, the Government will continue to encourage industry participants to collaborate with external parties to establish strategic tie-ups. Apart from sharing scale and resources, such strategic tie-ups open up opportunities and provide access for domestic industry participants to enter the global automotive supply chain and vice versa. Moreover, such strategic tie-ups also compel domestic industry participants to adopt best practice management, processes and procedures to deliver on higher quality standards that are necessary in accessing international markets.
  4. Become a regional hub focusing on niche areas and complementary activities
    The Government aims to position Malaysia as a regional manufacturing and assembly hub by encouraging existing participants to deepen their commitment in Malaysia. The Government will encourage existing vehicle manufacturers to rationalise the models assembled in Malaysia, scale up focused production and deepen industry linkage, in order to export competitively. It is expected that they will not primarily compete with high-volume national manufacturers in terms of pricing or target market.

    The expansion of these participants and the deepening of industry linkages will also lead to greater scale and improved quality of the industrys component vendor sector, thereby improving overall viability of the industry.

D. SPECIFIC POLICY INSTRUMENTS

  1. Excise Duty Structure
    The excise duty structure has been streamlined resulting in an overall reduction in the effective tax rate on most motor vehicles and a reduction in the tax differential between the different categories of motor vehicles (e.g. cars, MPVs, 4WD and between the different engine capacities). It is intended that the streamlining of the tax structure will promote greater transparency in pricing.
  2. Gazetted Values of Imported Cars
    To further promote greater transparency, the Government will gazette the values of imported cars for the purposes of duty computation. With the cooperation of the industry and the general public, it is expected that the incidence of tax underdeclaration will be significantly addressed. At the same time, the Government will step up enforcement measures against tax underdeclaration.
  3. ASEAN CEPT Import Duty
    To promote greater integration with the ASEAN automotive industry, Malaysia will reduce the ASEAN CEPT import duty to 5% for qualifying vehicles. While this will expose the domestic industry to greater competition, it is consistent with the policy thrust for rationalisation of models and increasing scale through exports.
  4. Industrial Adjustment Fund
    Grants from the Industrial Adjustment Fund will be made available to all companies – be they local, foreign or joint ventures – that create significant economic contribution.

    These grants will be awarded based on two main criteria: scale and industry linkage subject to a sustainable level of overall capacity. Grants will be given on a model-by-model basis, subject to minimum threshold levels on both the scale and industry linkage criteria.

    Specific R&D grants will also be made available, based on the viability and economic contribution of the R&D project. Further consideration will be given to companies that promote sustainable and competitive Bumiputera participation.

  5. Manufacturing Licences
    New manufacturing licences will only be issued after over-capacity in the domestic automotive sector is resolved. In the meantime, vehicle assemblers will not be allowed to use or make available their existing excess capacity to third parties to assemble new makes or models that compete directly with those produced by national car manufacturers.

    Where an increase in production capacity is required, companies in the high-volume and middle-volume segments will be encouraged to use existing excess capacity. New assembly facilities will only be allowed on a strictly case-by-case basis.

  6. Approved Permits
    The current system of Approved Permits (APs), primarily used as a monitoring and data collection measure, will be phased out by 31 December 2010.

    In the interim, APs will be made available based on economic contribution. Priority will be given to vehicle assemblers that have committed to a significant increase in production volume (with significant exports) in a particular model and require APs to import models that complete their product range for the Malaysian market. APs will be made available for a limited number of vehicles not assembled in Malaysia in order to ensure a sufficient choice of products for Malaysian consumers.

    The importation of second hand cars (other than individual personal imports) will be progressively phased out culminating in a total ban in 2010, in order to stimulate demand for locally manufactured and assembled vehicles.

    The Government will encourage and support companies currently awarded open APs (PEKEMA members) to transition into other related business activities e.g. sales and distribution or component manufacturers/vendors.

  7. Vehicle Type Approval
    Vehicle Type Approval (VTA) processes and procedures will be implemented comprehensively, in order to prevent the import and sale of sub-standard vehicles. The VTA process will ensure strict compliance with roadworthiness, safety and emissions standards. The VTA process will be implemented by the Road Transport Department (RTD) and other relevant agencies.

E. CONCLUSION

As a result of the implementation of these policy measures, the Government expects to see an industry with two strong national vehicle manufacturers, complemented by a number of foreign vehicle manufacturers (potentially with local joint-venture partners) who will upscale their assembly operations and at the same time rationalise the models assembled, to drive sustainable industry linkage.

Consequently, the components sector will also become more viable – there will be fewer companies (as incumbents merge), but their volumes will be higher and more networked into the global automotive industry. Gradual liberalisation will lead to reduced scope for importers, but genuine distributors will benefit from the increased sales volumes.

The NAP aims to provide a clear and transparent direction for all industry participants to enable them to make the optimal plans and investment decisions for the future.

Going forward, any Government policies and measures introduced for the domestic automotive sector will be based on this NAP. The NAP will be a long term policy base for the domestic automotive sector subject to reviews and refinement dictated by the global automotive industry environment.

The Government believes that this NAP will be a key measure towards driving the transformation of the domestic automotive sector to one that is viable, competitive and resilient, for the benefit of industry participants, consumers and the Malaysian economy.

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Comments

  • s402.0T freak (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 3:53 am

    Check this out:

    Quote:

    The Government will encourage rationalisation initiatives in the domestic automotive sector, in order to create a leaner and more sustainable industry structure. A leaner industry structure throughout the value chain will enable industry participants to achieve a sufficient level of scale to be competitive.

    >>> some form of "consolidation in the work?

    It is expected that they will not primarily compete with high-volume national manufacturers in terms of pricing or target market.

    >>>> So what will happen to Cherry, small cars, etc ?

    The importation of second hand cars (other than individual personal imports) will be progressively phased out culminating in a total ban in 2010, in order to stimulate demand for locally manufactured and assembled vehicles.

    >>>> So no more "preregistered/preowned japs models, bmw, merc, etc

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  • Ah-Ba (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 4:02 am

    So? Is car fr ASEAN going to be cheaper after this policy annouced? Seem like nothing new..

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  • tankk2000 (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 4:14 am

    privatise the disgraced Proton,

    and put it under produa,

    effectively under the TOYOTA group,

    all problem solves, and we get cheap car, finally.

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  • tankk2000 (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 4:21 am

    —Vehicle Type Approval

    Vehicle Type Approval (VTA) processes and procedures will be implemented comprehensively, in order to prevent the import and sale of sub-standard vehicles. The VTA process will ensure strict compliance with roadworthiness, safety and emissions standards. The VTA process will be implemented by the Road Transport Department (RTD) and other relevant agencies. —

    = THAT MEANS ALL PROTON CARS HAD TO BE PUT INTO JUNKS"

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  • king (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 4:46 am

    its utterly foolish to think like tankk2000.

    fyi toyota makes the most out of profit from each car sold in the world.

    so u must be dreaming to think u will get cheap cars…..toyota is rich enough to buy all the top 5 auto companies in the world in cash. And when they do that there wont be anymore competitors and you will need to pay $100k+ for a vios-class car or you can choose to take the bus. wake up tank!!

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  • hehehaha (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:16 am

    will cars be cheaper??

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  • intermilan (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:17 am

    Paul,

    whatever it is, do upload the details new tax structure that they announce.

    I've seen it in the 'channel3' news but too sekejap lah, tunjuk pun macam tak mau tunjuk saja.

    better if could illustrate a comparison with the previous structure.

    at least can compare la the difference. then can angan2. good wat?

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  • hehehaha (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:17 am

    cars like imported ones… the ones which cost like 300k+…. will they be cheaper in future…??

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  • Denniz (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:18 am

    | APs will be made available for a limited number of vehicles not assembled in Malaysia in order to ensure a sufficient choice of products for Malaysian consumers.

    The importation of second hand cars (other than individual personal imports) will be progressively phased out culminating in a total ban in 2010, in order to stimulate demand for locally manufactured and assembled vehicles. |

    Sorry if I got this wrong, but ban? Means no more importing Recond Car like those we have around?

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  • PGlang (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:30 am

    Seems like old story to me…any reduction in excise duty??? That's the most important point for we poor M'sian..

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  • Denniz (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:36 am

    APs will be made available for a limited number of vehicles not assembled in Malaysia in order to ensure a sufficient choice of products for Malaysian consumers.

    The importation of second hand cars (other than individual personal imports) will be progressively phased out culminating in a total ban in 2010, in order to stimulate demand for locally manufactured and assembled vehicles.

    Does this mean banning Imported Car like the Recond one?

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  • Pentan Sakua (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:53 am

    Aisayman…U all pretend like tak tau Malaysian Government punya taktik. Lower the import duty up the excise duty la…The they tell the rest of the world, we are ready for AFTA as we have already reduce the import tax…but they never tell they increased the excise duty…

    LAN PA…. PA LAN….PI MAI PI MAI TANG TU JUGA….

    BEKERJALAH BERSAMA-SAMA SAYA…..ha ha ha he he he…..

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  • intermilan (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:55 am

    if not mistaken there is reduction. bt need to know the details for which the categories (car origin, cbu/ckd, engine capacity, etc).

    from here, we could expect the non-national cars to start the ball rolling in reduction of car price. pass the benefit to customer a bit, they might tiao a bit. national car feeling threaten (they should!) follow suit to preserve the balance. All in all, the return of the rakyat 'rights' long overdue.. even though might be not true from macro economy point of view giving current increase in cost of nearly everything, interest rate, etc.

    at least, it bring smiles, revital hope and dream of the rakyat who just see the NAP without considering other factors.

    bet most people are happy to hear it finally out at last.

    now, lets wait for the auto market reaction.. hopefully it will be a meriah one.

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  • mystvearn (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 6:46 am

    On the AP issue, who then will bring in the cars? Distro, authorize dealer? A performance thing-like DRB-Honda?

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  • Initial D (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 8:21 am

    i dun think there will be much reduction in car prices………………..my opinion only……….so i think it will more or less the same.

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  • iguanaa (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 8:57 am

    ..what ever reductions or changes the Gs are making…guys..i think all of us here can sleep well tonight knowing damn well that we STILL won't be able to afford a BMW…even though Thailand Mari…so…let's all go to bed and….Dream On….Dream Away…..

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  • eric (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 8:58 am

    btw, toyota has also unlimited budget and funding for their formula 1 division.. they're either the top or 2nd team who spends the most in formula 1.. if we disregard the money spent on driver's salary, toyota beats ferrari by terms of spending in R&D by i think $100mil..

    however it is.. i just can't see the government lowering the prices.. just as Pentan Sakua said.. they reduce one part of the price and raise the other..

    in the end, the same thing will happen and we still pay a couple hundred percent more than other countries..

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  • king (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 9:40 am

    well said eric, the G will never for go the billions they make in import duty every year, nobody making billions a year will want to reduce it, would you?. You are just cheating yourselves if you are still dreaming of cheaper cars in future.

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  • Agent001 (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 2:03 pm

    The importation of second hand cars (other than individual personal imports) will be progressively phased out culminating in a total ban in 2010, in order to stimulate demand for locally manufactured and assembled vehicles.

    What does "individual personal imports" actually mean? Does that mean we would not be able to buy and import second hand cars, for example, an second hand EVO for Japan?

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  • honda_driver (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 3:56 pm

    you guys jump the gun la. you read one line, and you immediately assume there will no longer be imported japanese..etc. cars..

    "The importation of second hand cars (other than individual personal imports) )" you can still import in the car of your dreams by yourself.. its just that the system as it stands today will no longer exist. they are trying to phase out the "grey importer". by doing so, it also encourages the manufacturers to bring in the cars that are traditionally dominated by the grey market and assemble them locally. Basically, they're putting the power back into the manufacturers themselves.. some of these guys are suffering now, because of people like naza, who can bring in higher spec models of their cars, and sell them at more competitive prices.

    i'm just curious. if cars are already selling quite well today at the current prices, and if cars can really be cheaper, do you think the toyotas and nissans..etc. will lower their prices and pass on the savings to consumers? i think they will keep the same prices, and eat up all the extra margin.

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  • Tracks (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 4:51 pm

    tankk2000 said,

    "privatise the disgraced Proton,

    and put it under perodua,

    effectively under the TOYOTA group,

    all problem solves, and we get cheap car, finally."

    Just to remind everybody that Perodua cars are not cheap. All businesses would try to make money one way or another. Since Perodua only gave manufacturing control to the Daihatsu and not the distribution control, they make $$$ by buying part from Japan from their sister company like Denso. That way, they could siphoned off huge amount $$$. Besides that, Perodua don't have an open policy to sources parts from other manufacturers once the part is supplied by their sister company. Certains parts are bought at ridiculous prices and therefore made the cost of the car more expensive. These parts could easily be made with high quality standards and sold at a third of of the current price. If you don't believe me, check the prices for parts that are not changed frequently such as switches and you would see.

    Perodua Kancil door handles also breaks off easily after a certain period, but I don't see them getting bashed tremendously. They also have parts that would breaks off after a certain period causing total lost of coolant leading to engine overheating but everybody take it as it is with the impression that it was a cheap car so don't expect more. I have to stress again perodua cars are not cheap. The only thing we got was slightly better quality cars since the takeover by Daihatsu but will never be cheaper. Japanese are very intelligent businessman too.

    Anyway, back to NAP. The cars prices would like be unchanged or just a marginal reduction as the importers and assemblers would cite that the increase in raw material prices worldwide had increased the total cost of the vehicle.

    As for this comment,

    tankk2000 said,

    "—Vehicle Type Approval

    Vehicle Type Approval (VTA) processes and procedures will be implemented comprehensively, in order to prevent the import and sale of sub-standard vehicles. The VTA process will ensure strict compliance with roadworthiness, safety and emissions standards. The VTA process will be implemented by the Road Transport Department (RTD) and other relevant agencies. –

    = THAT MEANS ALL PROTON CARS HAD TO BE PUT INTO JUNKS”

    Please be sensible when making a comment. Trying driving a Kancil and crashing head on into a brick wall at only 64km/h. Do you think that you would survived? The Kancil would have not passed the required safety astandards and probably emission control as well. Don't just condemned Proton alone. I don't wish to drag other manufacturer into this discussion. Checked NCAP result from US and UK on safety aspect of vehicles. However, our government has a tendency of lowering standards just to allow a high passing rate just like in the school examination. Sick of this stupid practice.

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  • demio121 (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 4:58 pm

    I like this part:

    "" The current system of Approved Permits (APs), primarily used as a monitoring and data collection measure, will be phased out by 31 December 2010 ""

    monitoring and data collection… yeker…??? tu Gahmen think we are 2pid r???

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  • jehutyz (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:03 pm

    So is it confirm will be cheaper.

    As newspaper said a Honda City is cost around RM60K in Thailand and here is RM80K+

    So will a Honda City drop to RM65K price tag……

    My sis want to get a Swift, i think is better to wait…..but…..haihhhh…..

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  • motorhead (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:37 pm

    Ahh.. don't be too happy about this.. watched TV3 news last night.. excise duty reduced 5%-75%.. if i am not mistaken below 1800cc only reduced 5%.. from 80% to 75%… but big cars reduced 75%.. from 200% to 125%

    God damn… they r not helping the poor people.. don't expect significant price drop for below 1800cc cars.. as i predicted they still want to protect MoneyWaste proton.. they wont change this.. as this a very small percentage auto seller wont change the price much for car below 1800cc.. in fact our people used to expensive cars already.. maybe we gonna get only RM1000-2000 cheaper for HONDA city.. i guess the japs oso wont be so happy, bcoz car below 1800cc, is the biggest market…

    NAP still Nati. Auto. Protection.. wait la untill 2010…

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  • mycar_stolen (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:38 pm

    if you want to have cheaper car or a world std price..no need to wait the G to change the policy, change the G itself.

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  • galvintan (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 5:43 pm

    Yet another way to divert our attention away from the petrol issue.

    Should we be happy about this? Or are we just a circus monkey being fed with yet another banana.

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  • Initial D (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 6:03 pm

    wat to do………….we hv one of the largest passenger market wo……….the G make byk money from it………….if we r one of the smallest passenger market, then the G won't even pay attention to it and open the door wide for the foreign carmakers to cincai export their cars here.

    the main thing is this car business is a money-spinning business for the G. Once they make the wrong policy like most of us dream of, then they will bankrupt lo.

    well, my onion……eh….opinion only…..cheers!!!!!!

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  • HMMaster (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 6:10 pm

    —Vehicle Type Approval

    Vehicle Type Approval (VTA) processes and procedures will be implemented comprehensively, in order to prevent the import and sale of sub-standard vehicles. The VTA process will ensure strict compliance with roadworthiness, safety and emissions standards. The VTA process will be implemented by the Road Transport Department (RTD) and other relevant agencies. –

    = THAT MEANS ALL PROTON CARS HAD TO BE PUT INTO JUNKS”

    according to The Star:

    # Preventing the import and sale of sub-standard vehicles

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  • eric (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 6:59 pm

    however it is, one thing is for sure.. proton as the Gs child will never die.

    "honda_driver said,

    March 23, 2006 @ 7:56 am

    i’m just curious. if cars are already selling quite well today at the current prices, and if cars can really be cheaper, do you think the toyotas and nissans..etc. will lower their prices and pass on the savings to consumers? i think they will keep the same prices, and eat up all the extra margin. "

    companies will not take in the extra benefit as they would use that margin to lower prices so their cars are more competitively priced.. the equillibrium price will drop together with the tax.. kinda foolish la if the company try to sell their cars at the prices that consumers are already complaining about AFTER the taxes have been reduced.. hehe..

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  • Joe Ooi (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 7:05 pm

    Just like Proton car, NAP main body still remain the same, with minor "cosmetic change".

    One of the NAP objective ("LAST" ranking objective) is: –

    "To safeguard the interests of consumers in terms of value for money, safety and quality of products and services"

    Do our G address this issue adequately?

    1. Value for Money – Effective tax reduction (import + excise) is not spelt out clearly ("minor tax-cutting) and in line with "prevailing open market selling price" say like Thailand. The pricing policy is still compel the consumers to "high-spending" if not "highest spending", rather than "significant tax-cutting"!

    2. Safety – no need to mentioned anymore as Proton car sold locally never pass NCAP test, no safety bag, most w/o ABS, etc.

    3. Quality – This jargon, also don't need to talk already as too much were mention in the pass.

    4. Products (P) = Value (V) + Safety (S) + Quality (Q) – P = VSQ

    This is the "formula" for Proton to achieve success. But Proton "interprete" it as P = VSQ, Proton = Very Sad Question!

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  • dec21st (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 7:35 pm

    i'm scheduled to collect my car today (proton). with the current announcement of NAP, i am just wondering will the price drop any time this week? any speculations?

    if i would wait for a few more days and then see whether Proton made any decision to lower their prices then i might be able to get my car at a lowered price

    the thing is, whether is this possible? since my bank loan is approved,

    if they decide to change the price, am i eligible for it?

    usually when is payment from bank to Proton made? upon approval or upon collection of car?

    please advise me

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  • MyBoy (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 7:41 pm

    King,

    "toyota is rich enough to buy all the top 5 auto companies in the world in cash."

    Buy all top 5 Auto Co in cash? You must be joking :)

    Toyota is a very rich company but not that rich mate.

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  • Denniz (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 7:44 pm

    "if you want to have cheaper car or a world std price..no need to wait the G to change the policy, change the G itself. "

    4 years to go, when is the next election? :D

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  • dec21st (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 7:46 pm

    just a question

    i'm scheduled to collect my car today (proton). with the current announcement of NAP, i am just wondering will the price drop any time this week? any speculations?

    if i would wait for a few more days and then see whether Proton made any decision to lower their prices then i might be able to get my car at a lowered price

    the thing is, whether is this possible? since my bank loan is approved,

    if they decide to change the price, am i eligible for it?

    usually when is payment from bank to Proton made? upon approval or upon collection of car?

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  • demio121 (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 7:48 pm

    Goto the Motor Trader forum. Chips posted the comment from PEKEMA where he complain that the G have never supported them and the G should help them to move to other business after the AP era.

    These people have no shame asking… no ends.

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  • MyBoy (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 7:50 pm

    Denniz,

    Next election is around 2008 i think. Well, you all know what to do right? :D

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  • motorhead (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 8:08 pm

    haiya… change G? not that easy la fren.. remember what they did during last election? campaign 7 days only, in a sudden oso! no name in list? havoc?.. furthermore our election no independent body watch. they said we dont need it. Yeah, they want to win, why they need it anyway… wud like to see what trick they'll use this time…Indon election, much better..

    Actually no much good news for middle income like me.. fell sad a bit.. i wished they WUD reduce the ED 30% to 50%.. even with 50% more, HONDA city can match waja's price… look like i ve to find 2nd hand HONDA…

    MAD MOTORHEAD

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  • MyBoy (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 8:22 pm

    motorhead,

    Not change la friend. Just let them feel the burn when their majority eroded, thats all.

    Too big majority = Too complacent/deaf

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  • motorhead (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 9:42 pm

    MyBoy.. Oo… like that, can la.. ok lets doit, see u in 2008 polls, i wish we can vote together…. there goes my vote to BN.. i believe change of gov has become national security concern.. almost impossible to happen.. no?.. but i wonder, who can replace PakLah?.. any better candidate? (it can be worse)..i don't see any la.. any suggetions? MP from Kinabatangan? He's a Hot Rod.. but PM from sarawak?? hahaha… lotta nonsense happen since PakLah take over.. i oso dunno wat 2 say… but feel lucky i grad with JPA loan & 75% discount some more…

    Guys.. this one out topic… but saw new ads for gen2 1.6.. 1L for 17km?? really ka? Can or not? any gen2 owners here?

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  • motorhead (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 10:10 pm

    TRACKS..

    I agree with you on produa.. u r ABSOLUTELY right about produa expensive parts.. coz i own a kancil for 5 years.. Ori part wud cut my throat.. but lucky many potong & local parts.. so can save a bit la.. what to do? this is not a free market country like US.. we dont ve much choice here.. cant talk so much oso..

    but thanks to jap tech.. my kancil ve no major problems for 5 years, new kancil & kelisa ve this temperture pomblems.. i notice their normal temperture alwayz half.. but mine is 2001 model, ok a bit..

    With produa around it gives proton some pressure to improve.. or else, worse la… but maybe national cars is not a good idea anyway.. but sure good for certain people.. especially shareholders la, we can check who.. they found ways to rob our money, force us with high tax, & can get ED tax money from other auto players…one way or the other, they'll get more & more money.. they r the one who freely make the policy… wat can we say??

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  • Joe Ooi (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 10:18 pm

    What change G because of NAP, "unrealistic outburst", don't worry, AFTA or golablization will effect the changes. This is because our products & services (including agriculture) when export will meet the same market constraint if we don't open up our market. The NAP announement is also in respond to this. If there is no AFTA or other FTA, then the import + excise duty for cars may increase to in agregate of perhap 500% from 300%, who know?

    There is a time when Proton will have to stand on it own feet and respond to market forces. But look at the products they produce and if no improvement, then they are another potential candidate to become and joint "white elephant club of Malaysia", just like Perwaja, he, he, he, …………..

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  • tankk2000 (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 10:32 pm

    what a duffus act to provoke others

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  • MyBoy (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 10:49 pm

    motorhead,

    International auto co use combined cycle and yet people still argue the correcness of their figure. So just imagine Gen.2 17KM/L. They must have strip all the unnecessary weight off the car and run the test on the motorway only. :D

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  • MyBoy (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 10:52 pm

    Joe Ooi,

    Never was my intention to talk about changing the G. I just dont like the 90% majority, thats all.

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  • motorhead (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 11:01 pm

    Yea la Myboy.. imagine 17 x 30L = 510km.. then better gen2 uses kancil's fuel tank la.. rite?.. they dont have any other way to cheat people ka?.. sounds nonsense la..

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  • ec (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 11:24 pm

    Quoted from the star online:

    "The two national car companies – Proton and Perodua – are expected to improve the quality of their products ….. "

    Whereabout the Naza, as proclaimed as national car company? Don't even seen the CEOs talk and comment about the NAP…

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  • mystvearn (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 11:29 pm

    How long will it take before the dealers/manufactures offer the new car pricing?

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  • Jay (Member) on Mar 23, 2006 at 11:49 pm

    Cars prices will be cheaper. Hhhmmm that's a good news, but i'm worried about the fuel price in coming years.

    AP's abolished by 2010 wow ! I can go for non Proton with better discounts.

    Why buy local cars when you pay less tax for foreign cars in future ?

    Go for it man !

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  • Ricc (Member) on Mar 24, 2006 at 12:12 am

    Jay, the G is absolutely sure that every1 will think that ay, Why go for national car if u can get an imported car with the same price?

    So, they'll definitely keep those imported car's price remain unchanged. Otherwise, the Ps are gonna suffer big losses and I'm sure the G wont let this happen.

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  • DAN (Member) on Mar 24, 2006 at 3:42 am

    this type of management of our government, every 1 also can be come government WA!.

    Go n find outside income la rather then come to our citizens like us to find a easy way money to Tex. then come to what call takaful this n that why dont used takaful concept to do government way…HA…ha..

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  • king (Member) on Mar 25, 2006 at 5:15 am

    myboy, i know what i said……go do more reading about toyota and you'll know….

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  • arif (Member) on Aug 22, 2007 at 11:56 am

    well, proton has to buck up! im talking about quality here!
    one of my neighbours’ satria neo, sadly when he was about to go out, eventually the ENGINE fell from its frame!!!! can u believe that!!!

    just imagine if he was driving at the highway while the thing happens?? ill jeopardize not only the driver, also other users!!!

    and 1 more thing i dont understand proton, y cant they produce much better cars?? i mean, hyundai can do it….. y not proton????

    as if like proton engineers arent capable enough… ohh im sure they are…
    if u cant do it, might aswell u dont get involved in automotive industry….

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  • Dato Murad on Jan 15, 2018 at 8:32 pm

    I need to know under which act of Parliment that this policy is enacted?

    Anyone can help me.

    Regards,
    Salam

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