just imagine if he was driving at the highway while the thing happens?? ill jeopardize not only the driver, also other users!!!

and 1 more thing i dont understand proton, y cant they produce much better cars?? i mean, hyundai can do it….. y not proton????

as if like proton engineers arent capable enough… ohh im sure they are…
if u cant do it, might aswell u dont get involved in automotive industry….

Go n find outside income la rather then come to our citizens like us to find a easy way money to Tex. then come to what call takaful this n that why dont used takaful concept to do government way…HA…ha..

So, they'll definitely keep those imported car's price remain unchanged. Otherwise, the Ps are gonna suffer big losses and I'm sure the G wont let this happen.

AP's abolished by 2010 wow ! I can go for non Proton with better discounts.

Why buy local cars when you pay less tax for foreign cars in future ?

Go for it man !

"The two national car companies – Proton and Perodua – are expected to improve the quality of their products ….. "

Whereabout the Naza, as proclaimed as national car company? Don't even seen the CEOs talk and comment about the NAP…

Never was my intention to talk about changing the G. I just dont like the 90% majority, thats all.

International auto co use combined cycle and yet people still argue the correcness of their figure. So just imagine Gen.2 17KM/L. They must have strip all the unnecessary weight off the car and run the test on the motorway only.

There is a time when Proton will have to stand on it own feet and respond to market forces. But look at the products they produce and if no improvement, then they are another potential candidate to become and joint "white elephant club of Malaysia", just like Perwaja, he, he, he, …………..

I agree with you on produa.. u r ABSOLUTELY right about produa expensive parts.. coz i own a kancil for 5 years.. Ori part wud cut my throat.. but lucky many potong & local parts.. so can save a bit la.. what to do? this is not a free market country like US.. we dont ve much choice here.. cant talk so much oso..

but thanks to jap tech.. my kancil ve no major problems for 5 years, new kancil & kelisa ve this temperture pomblems.. i notice their normal temperture alwayz half.. but mine is 2001 model, ok a bit..

With produa around it gives proton some pressure to improve.. or else, worse la… but maybe national cars is not a good idea anyway.. but sure good for certain people.. especially shareholders la, we can check who.. they found ways to rob our money, force us with high tax, & can get ED tax money from other auto players…one way or the other, they'll get more & more money.. they r the one who freely make the policy… wat can we say??

Guys.. this one out topic… but saw new ads for gen2 1.6.. 1L for 17km?? really ka? Can or not? any gen2 owners here?

Not change la friend. Just let them feel the burn when their majority eroded, thats all.

Too big majority = Too complacent/deaf

Actually no much good news for middle income like me.. fell sad a bit.. i wished they WUD reduce the ED 30% to 50%.. even with 50% more, HONDA city can match waja's price… look like i ve to find 2nd hand HONDA…

MAD MOTORHEAD

Next election is around 2008 i think. Well, you all know what to do right?

These people have no shame asking… no ends.

i'm scheduled to collect my car today (proton). with the current announcement of NAP, i am just wondering will the price drop any time this week? any speculations?

if i would wait for a few more days and then see whether Proton made any decision to lower their prices then i might be able to get my car at a lowered price

the thing is, whether is this possible? since my bank loan is approved,

if they decide to change the price, am i eligible for it?

usually when is payment from bank to Proton made? upon approval or upon collection of car?

4 years to go, when is the next election?

"toyota is rich enough to buy all the top 5 auto companies in the world in cash."

Buy all top 5 Auto Co in cash? You must be joking

Toyota is a very rich company but not that rich mate.

if i would wait for a few more days and then see whether Proton made any decision to lower their prices then i might be able to get my car at a lowered price

the thing is, whether is this possible? since my bank loan is approved,

if they decide to change the price, am i eligible for it?

usually when is payment from bank to Proton made? upon approval or upon collection of car?

please advise me

One of the NAP objective ("LAST" ranking objective) is: -

"To safeguard the interests of consumers in terms of value for money, safety and quality of products and services"

Do our G address this issue adequately?

1. Value for Money – Effective tax reduction (import + excise) is not spelt out clearly ("minor tax-cutting) and in line with "prevailing open market selling price" say like Thailand. The pricing policy is still compel the consumers to "high-spending" if not "highest spending", rather than "significant tax-cutting"!

2. Safety – no need to mentioned anymore as Proton car sold locally never pass NCAP test, no safety bag, most w/o ABS, etc.

3. Quality – This jargon, also don't need to talk already as too much were mention in the pass.

4. Products (P) = Value (V) + Safety (S) + Quality (Q) – P = VSQ

This is the "formula" for Proton to achieve success. But Proton "interprete" it as P = VSQ, Proton = Very Sad Question!

"honda_driver said,

March 23, 2006 @ 7:56 am

i’m just curious. if cars are already selling quite well today at the current prices, and if cars can really be cheaper, do you think the toyotas and nissans..etc. will lower their prices and pass on the savings to consumers? i think they will keep the same prices, and eat up all the extra margin. "

companies will not take in the extra benefit as they would use that margin to lower prices so their cars are more competitively priced.. the equillibrium price will drop together with the tax.. kinda foolish la if the company try to sell their cars at the prices that consumers are already complaining about AFTER the taxes have been reduced.. hehe..

Vehicle Type Approval (VTA) processes and procedures will be implemented comprehensively, in order to prevent the import and sale of sub-standard vehicles. The VTA process will ensure strict compliance with roadworthiness, safety and emissions standards. The VTA process will be implemented by the Road Transport Department (RTD) and other relevant agencies. –

= THAT MEANS ALL PROTON CARS HAD TO BE PUT INTO JUNKS”

according to The Star:

# Preventing the import and sale of sub-standard vehicles

the main thing is this car business is a money-spinning business for the G. Once they make the wrong policy like most of us dream of, then they will bankrupt lo.

well, my onion……eh….opinion only…..cheers!!!!!!

Should we be happy about this? Or are we just a circus monkey being fed with yet another banana.

God damn… they r not helping the poor people.. don't expect significant price drop for below 1800cc cars.. as i predicted they still want to protect MoneyWaste proton.. they wont change this.. as this a very small percentage auto seller wont change the price much for car below 1800cc.. in fact our people used to expensive cars already.. maybe we gonna get only RM1000-2000 cheaper for HONDA city.. i guess the japs oso wont be so happy, bcoz car below 1800cc, is the biggest market…

NAP still Nati. Auto. Protection.. wait la untill 2010…

As newspaper said a Honda City is cost around RM60K in Thailand and here is RM80K+

So will a Honda City drop to RM65K price tag……

My sis want to get a Swift, i think is better to wait…..but…..haihhhh…..