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	<title>Comments on: Government not happy with minimal car price reduction</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: altis_fan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35894</link>
		<dc:creator>altis_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If minister asked them to reduce more, this means that the price is still 
high. Let&#039;s wait some more months. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If minister asked them to reduce more, this means that the price is still</p>
<p>high. Let&#039;s wait some more months.</p>
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		<title>By: paxter</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35853</link>
		<dc:creator>paxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YEAH! dpm tell them to reduce more! :D </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEAH! dpm tell them to reduce more! <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: shaif</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35772</link>
		<dc:creator>shaif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With 30 cents increase in petrol, I would like to see more friendly consumer approach by the Gov. Not only rebate for cars but extend it to the fast food service tax, electronic goods, rebate in car road tax and insurance. Our money become lot smaller this day, purchasing power reduce. What a stressful year for a motorist. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With 30 cents increase in petrol, I would like to see more friendly consumer approach by the Gov. Not only rebate for cars but extend it to the fast food service tax, electronic goods, rebate in car road tax and insurance. Our money become lot smaller this day, purchasing power reduce. What a stressful year for a motorist.</p>
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		<title>By: DAN</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35707</link>
		<dc:creator>DAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>push to other , point to other that all is like monkey business, only know how to burden us s a Malaysians. 
monkey business for their own minority. 
talk cock!. 
eat shit la.. there only know how to find easy money from us n do nothing, then act like there r good to be true!... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>push to other , point to other that all is like monkey business, only know how to burden us s a Malaysians.</p>
<p>monkey business for their own minority.</p>
<p>talk cock!.</p>
<p>eat shit la.. there only know how to find easy money from us n do nothing, then act like there r good to be true!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35704</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wyejon: chosen for the &quot;tulan&quot; effect. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wyejon: chosen for the &quot;tulan&quot; effect.</p>
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		<title>By: wyejon</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35628</link>
		<dc:creator>wyejon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heheh.... that picture of our DPM is priceless </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heheh&#8230;. that picture of our DPM is priceless</p>
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		<title>By: A question for car owners &#187;</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35607</link>
		<dc:creator>A question for car owners &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I would like to pose a question to any of you who purchased a car recently. The government is unhappy that car prices have not been reduced much, only in the tune of 2-5% or at most 5-10%. If you purchased a Honda Accord last year, and Honda cuts the price of the Honda Accord by 15-20%, how would you feel? Would your car&#8217;s value drop in the second hand market? And if yes, would you be angry? Would your brand loyalty to Honda be affected if Honda was the only one who gave a big price cut for their cars? Would your brand loyalty to Honda be affected if all car manufacturers did similiar price cuts? The prices of cars in Malaysia is truly a complicated thing. Such a delicate balance must be kept. Sigh. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I would like to pose a question to any of you who purchased a car recently. The government is unhappy that car prices have not been reduced much, only in the tune of 2-5% or at most 5-10%. If you purchased a Honda Accord last year, and Honda cuts the price of the Honda Accord by 15-20%, how would you feel? Would your car&#8217;s value drop in the second hand market? And if yes, would you be angry? Would your brand loyalty to Honda be affected if Honda was the only one who gave a big price cut for their cars? Would your brand loyalty to Honda be affected if all car manufacturers did similiar price cuts? The prices of cars in Malaysia is truly a complicated thing. Such a delicate balance must be kept. Sigh. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NeedGoodCar</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35568</link>
		<dc:creator>NeedGoodCar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have this feeling that the NAP is bound to fail if the fundamental element underlying the setting of the policy is to lend protection to potong and ptua. 
Please prove me wrong. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this feeling that the NAP is bound to fail if the fundamental element underlying the setting of the policy is to lend protection to potong and ptua.</p>
<p>Please prove me wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Pentan Sakua</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35567</link>
		<dc:creator>Pentan Sakua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Governemnt people, especially the leaders like to TALK COCK. Turun 5% tax, then how much do you expect the car price to come down. TURUNLAH 50%, then baru ada ummmmmppphh.. NI turun 5%, sembang macam turun 50%. Piiirraaahhhhhhhhhhhhh..... Sembang kuat, cakap kosong, cakap tak serupa bikin..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Governemnt people, especially the leaders like to TALK COCK. Turun 5% tax, then how much do you expect the car price to come down. TURUNLAH 50%, then baru ada ummmmmppphh.. NI turun 5%, sembang macam turun 50%. Piiirraaahhhhhhhhhhhhh&#8230;.. Sembang kuat, cakap kosong, cakap tak serupa bikin&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: NeedGoodCar</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35559</link>
		<dc:creator>NeedGoodCar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cavino, 
 
I stand corrected, plz tell me if honda is selling at a loss in Langkawi for the City 1.5 DSI at RM52k?  
 
BTW, my benchmark is the level of price that a typical malaysian like myself wish to see after the NAP, afterall that&#039;s only &quot;wish&quot;, it might not be translated into reality. Dream on........ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cavino,</p>
<p>I stand corrected, plz tell me if honda is selling at a loss in Langkawi for the City 1.5 DSI at RM52k? </p>
<p>BTW, my benchmark is the level of price that a typical malaysian like myself wish to see after the NAP, afterall that&#039;s only &quot;wish&quot;, it might not be translated into reality. Dream on&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: OpTiMuS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35550</link>
		<dc:creator>OpTiMuS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man..i really do think the prices of cars shud drop more.... 
perodua juz a mere 4%...can get thru discount la... 
howcome toyota can drop more????anyone can enlighten me?? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man..i really do think the prices of cars shud drop more&#8230;.</p>
<p>perodua juz a mere 4%&#8230;can get thru discount la&#8230;</p>
<p>howcome toyota can drop more????anyone can enlighten me??</p>
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		<title>By: cavino</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35546</link>
		<dc:creator>cavino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NeedGoodCar, 
 
Ur benchmark on Honda City (I got one recently) of 65K will be way too low. Based on 2006 rate vs 2004 rate practice b4 NAP, it will be at most 10% difference, thats abt RM5K differences. So new iDSI price should will be in the range of RM76K or more. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NeedGoodCar,</p>
<p>Ur benchmark on Honda City (I got one recently) of 65K will be way too low. Based on 2006 rate vs 2004 rate practice b4 NAP, it will be at most 10% difference, thats abt RM5K differences. So new iDSI price should will be in the range of RM76K or more.</p>
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		<title>By: PGlang</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35543</link>
		<dc:creator>PGlang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wo..wo..wo..This is like a slap on their face.  No point to be unhappy coz the Nonsense Auto Policy is proposed n passed by them.  Y not let the whole country the free port status like Langkawi.  Then all will be happy!!! ke..ke..ke </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wo..wo..wo..This is like a slap on their face.  No point to be unhappy coz the Nonsense Auto Policy is proposed n passed by them.  Y not let the whole country the free port status like Langkawi.  Then all will be happy!!! ke..ke..ke</p>
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		<title>By: motorhead</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35530</link>
		<dc:creator>motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeaa.. finally they heard.. motorhead was maddd!!!.. TPM heard it.. all motorheads here are oso not happy... the reduction is not enough.. but their fault oso.. who ask  to reduce the tax so low?? now motorhead is mad, they blame the manufacturers... but dont care la.. nasib la engkauorang.. the important is we all should get cheaper cars.. and more... i speak on behalf of all motorhead friends here... they can loose quite some votes here...  
 
ps:motorhead has 1 car &amp; 2 motorbikes... his head spins like motor.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeaa.. finally they heard.. motorhead was maddd!!!.. TPM heard it.. all motorheads here are oso not happy&#8230; the reduction is not enough.. but their fault oso.. who ask  to reduce the tax so low?? now motorhead is mad, they blame the manufacturers&#8230; but dont care la.. nasib la engkauorang.. the important is we all should get cheaper cars.. and more&#8230; i speak on behalf of all motorhead friends here&#8230; they can loose quite some votes here&#8230; </p>
<p>ps:motorhead has 1 car &amp; 2 motorbikes&#8230; his head spins like motor..</p>
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		<title>By: DAN</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35528</link>
		<dc:creator>DAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this government all r cowboy, (pencuri pun dia polis pun dia) that means tiff n police also by them, all r bullshit. prove n do something then we see.  
down this up that, is like unprofessionally way to our country, is like cheating n monkey business. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this government all r cowboy, (pencuri pun dia polis pun dia) that means tiff n police also by them, all r bullshit. prove n do something then we see. </p>
<p>down this up that, is like unprofessionally way to our country, is like cheating n monkey business.</p>
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		<title>By: mydurian</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35526</link>
		<dc:creator>mydurian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least minimum 10% cut. Also monitor the prices of spare parts too. Wouldn&#039;t want: buy cheap, maintenance expensive. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least minimum 10% cut. Also monitor the prices of spare parts too. Wouldn&#039;t want: buy cheap, maintenance expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilmax</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35522</link>
		<dc:creator>Hilmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The G&#039;s now want lower price. Then GIVE MANUFACTURER/IMPORTER/COSTUMER MORE CUT IN NAP. 
Or better 50% reduced overall, not cut this part and plus anything taxes what.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The G&#039;s now want lower price. Then GIVE MANUFACTURER/IMPORTER/COSTUMER MORE CUT IN NAP.</p>
<p>Or better 50% reduced overall, not cut this part and plus anything taxes what..</p>
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		<title>By: NeedGoodCar</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35521</link>
		<dc:creator>NeedGoodCar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For benchmarking purposes, people would expect the magnitude of reduction in the car prices bring forth by the NAP as below: 
 
Honda City 1.5 DSI : Below RM65k (Selling for RM52K now in Langkawi). 
Honda Civic 1.8S : Below RM85k (Selling for RM70k now in Langkawi). 
Honda Accord 2.4 VTL-i : Below RM130k (Selling for RM100k now in Langkawi). 
(Prices are retail price without insurance) 
 
Sadly, 2-5% is way too insignificant, how long do we need wait for car prices to drop to a reasonable level? 
 
Frankly, very disappointed with the NAP, especially on the part with regard to no issuance of manufacturing licence if there is excess domestic capacity, what nonsense, if domestic manufacturers keep on producing inferior products, how can anyone expect them to sell? and of course, there will forever be excess capacity in the domestic front!!! This is totally not in line with making Malaysia a regional hub for cars. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For benchmarking purposes, people would expect the magnitude of reduction in the car prices bring forth by the NAP as below:</p>
<p>Honda City 1.5 DSI : Below RM65k (Selling for RM52K now in Langkawi).</p>
<p>Honda Civic 1.8S : Below RM85k (Selling for RM70k now in Langkawi).</p>
<p>Honda Accord 2.4 VTL-i : Below RM130k (Selling for RM100k now in Langkawi).</p>
<p>(Prices are retail price without insurance)</p>
<p>Sadly, 2-5% is way too insignificant, how long do we need wait for car prices to drop to a reasonable level?</p>
<p>Frankly, very disappointed with the NAP, especially on the part with regard to no issuance of manufacturing licence if there is excess domestic capacity, what nonsense, if domestic manufacturers keep on producing inferior products, how can anyone expect them to sell? and of course, there will forever be excess capacity in the domestic front!!! This is totally not in line with making Malaysia a regional hub for cars.</p>
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		<title>By: jehutyz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35518</link>
		<dc:creator>jehutyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wah!!!! gov not happy with the price wor. Then they set the minimum limit lor. All the car must at least drop 10%. Then will be great. Anywhere CKD unit all stop but CBU unit all up. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wah!!!! gov not happy with the price wor. Then they set the minimum limit lor. All the car must at least drop 10%. Then will be great. Anywhere CKD unit all stop but CBU unit all up.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMachine</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35514</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMachine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Govt not happy ...... then do something la. Proton &amp; Perodua take note the reduction announced is pittance ! other non-national have cut prices 6%-10% all CKD cars should be lowered further !!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Govt not happy &#8230;&#8230; then do something la. Proton &amp; Perodua take note the reduction announced is pittance ! other non-national have cut prices 6%-10% all CKD cars should be lowered further !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ricc</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/03/25/government-not-happy-with-minimal-price-reduction/#comment-35512</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.. a reduction of 2%~5% is nothing... The car will be less from around RM700 ~ RM3500 for a RM75K car... We can get this amount of discount in their respective &quot;special promostion&quot; sales, such as Hari Raya, CNY, or Christmas... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.. a reduction of 2%~5% is nothing&#8230; The car will be less from around RM700 ~ RM3500 for a RM75K car&#8230; We can get this amount of discount in their respective &quot;special promostion&quot; sales, such as Hari Raya, CNY, or Christmas&#8230;</p>
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