Comments on: Corruption in the car industry http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:44:15 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: nkhhenry http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36547 nkhhenry Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:21:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36547 take it EZlahh, anywhere round the world full of corruption happen daily...just whether these type of people really can spend that "corrupted money " n sleep peacefully??? how they r to teach their kids??? or like father like son n generation pass to generation..."Malaysia Boleh...Rasuah no.1" Sakit hati w this few foolish people... take it EZlahh, anywhere round the world full of corruption happen daily…just whether these type of people really can spend that “corrupted money ” n sleep peacefully??? how they r to teach their kids??? or like father like son n generation pass to generation…”Malaysia Boleh…Rasuah no.1″ Sakit hati w this few foolish people…

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36243 Joe Ooi Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:10:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36243 Corruption, the biggest culprit in economic corruption in our car industry is NAP + tax-phobia structure! If we embrace open market, corruption can be eliminate to minimum. Good example are electrical appliances (TV, Fridge, rice cooker, fan, etc) and electronic (computer) is totally embrace open market, the consumer will benefit the most! Who in this market involve in corruption in order to acquire electrical and electronic items. If our electrical and electronic sector have similar "NAP", with few "national makers", then there will be a lot of corruption and the PC computer mostly price from RM 2K to RM 4K may jump to RM 8K to RM 10K in order to feed the crocodiles. Corruption, the biggest culprit in economic corruption in our car industry is NAP + tax-phobia structure! If we embrace open market, corruption can be eliminate to minimum. Good example are electrical appliances (TV, Fridge, rice cooker, fan, etc) and electronic (computer) is totally embrace open market, the consumer will benefit the most! Who in this market involve in corruption in order to acquire electrical and electronic items. If our electrical and electronic sector have similar “NAP”, with few “national makers”, then there will be a lot of corruption and the PC computer mostly price from RM 2K to RM 4K may jump to RM 8K to RM 10K in order to feed the crocodiles.

]]> By: shaif http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36210 shaif Tue, 04 Apr 2006 00:25:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36210 Where got freedom. BPR still need to listen to the 'paymaster'. There are not an independent party. Its all politics even in car industry. Where got freedom. BPR still need to listen to the ‘paymaster’. There are not an independent party. Its all politics even in car industry.

]]> By: HatukNgkau http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36176 HatukNgkau Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:59:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36176 BPR got freedom also malas to act lar... BPR got freedom also malas to act lar…

]]> By: outspoken http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36150 outspoken Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:45:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36150 stink to high heaven.. corruption are now "well practised" by most malaysians.. be it summons, tenders, and even APs. give BPR the freedom to act, and i am sure we will see a different malaysia.. stink to high heaven.. corruption are now “well practised” by most malaysians.. be it summons, tenders, and even APs. give BPR the freedom to act, and i am sure we will see a different malaysia..

]]> By: waimak http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36143 waimak Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:09:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36143 *hgkh* .. affect profitability... can't be measured.. *hgkh* .. affect profitability… can’t be measured..

]]> By: waimak http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36142 waimak Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:05:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36142 Corruption can be in any form, from the simplest twist of facts to leakages in procurement process. The sad thing is some are smart enough to hide it, while the not-so-smart suffer the legal action. This thing keep going on and on and over time the effects are channelled into quality of goods and services, productivity or even effect profitability. Corruption sometimes comes with biased policies and procedures and can be measured in monetary term. Corruption can be in any form, from the simplest twist of facts to leakages in procurement process. The sad thing is some are smart enough to hide it, while the not-so-smart suffer the legal action. This thing keep going on and on and over time the effects are channelled into quality of goods and services, productivity or even effect profitability. Corruption sometimes comes with biased policies and procedures and can be measured in monetary term.

]]> By: honda_driver http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36141 honda_driver Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:48:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36141 DRB HICOM pay up to RM150million a year for APs. All the aps are from 1 individual. Best business model you can imagine, selling APs you get for free. DRB HICOM pay up to RM150million a year for APs. All the aps are from 1 individual. Best business model you can imagine, selling APs you get for free.

]]> By: fariq http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36123 fariq Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:25:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36123 its sad that people when given an amount of power .end up abusing it for selfish needs. I am not sure if our country's future is positive, if things like this keep on going on .. On a more positive note...I know this is out of context...But I would like to congratulate Alex Yoong for his 1st A1GP race win in Shanghai.. and Moved Malaysia to 5th in the final points standing . Malaysia should be proud !!!! its sad that people when given an amount of power .end up abusing it for selfish needs. I am not sure if our country’s future is positive, if things like this keep on going on ..

On a more positive note…I know this is out of context…But I would like to congratulate Alex Yoong for his 1st A1GP race win in Shanghai.. and Moved Malaysia to 5th in the final points standing . Malaysia should be proud !!!!

]]> By: triplesaber http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36107 triplesaber Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:59:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36107 'Demonstrasi Aman' anyone? looks like we r being robbed for how many years already? Whats the year Saga was launched? hehe.. ‘Demonstrasi Aman’ anyone? looks like we r being robbed for how many years already? Whats the year Saga was launched? hehe..

]]> By: ingolstadt http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36097 ingolstadt Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:49:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36097 Innocent consumers should reserve the rights to sue both the car dealers and the government. Car Dealer -Obvious case Government - The incompetency in enforcing their rules and regulations and ultimately leads to the frustration of consumers. Fxxk the government. Innocent consumers should reserve the rights to sue both the car dealers and the government.

Car Dealer -Obvious case
Government – The incompetency in enforcing their rules and regulations and ultimately leads to the frustration of consumers.

Fxxk the government.

]]> By: cratzelogy http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36096 cratzelogy Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:11:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36096 how i wish to point them out. hahhaha... but its very commandly use. Looking at it, i felt bad and ashame of it too. For example, u got a 2 supplier for car audio player. A provide normal audio CD player , B provide an audio CD player with mp3, wma, bluetooth and more. Which would that car company choose? My answer would be both, A for normal spec. car models and B for higher spec. models. But then mostly what happens is A would bride the PIC of the car company and then there u go. All car use A audio cd player. hahahah... Anyway i heard a W*** cost is just Rm20K~30k... so why we buy such a car so expensive from "DARE TO BE DIFFERENT, stay the same?" company? U figure the rest. how i wish to point them out. hahhaha… but its very commandly use. Looking at it, i felt bad and ashame of it too. For example, u got a 2 supplier for car audio player. A provide normal audio CD player , B provide an audio CD player with mp3, wma, bluetooth and more. Which would that car company choose?

My answer would be both, A for normal spec. car models and B for higher spec. models. But then mostly what happens is A would bride the PIC of the car company and then there u go. All car use A audio cd player. hahahah…

Anyway i heard a W*** cost is just Rm20K~30k… so why we buy such a car so expensive from “DARE TO BE DIFFERENT, stay the same?” company? U figure the rest.

]]> By: E-Nabill http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36055 E-Nabill Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:41:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36055 i tink car corruption is one of those tings that blind ppl can see as wel , its so open,and everybody knows it a robbery on TV if u like....uits so common that its 'part of the biz' , i hope the media pays attention to this case n make it front page stories only thn othrs wil be cought .. i tink car corruption is one of those tings that blind ppl can see as wel , its so open,and everybody knows it a robbery on TV if u like….uits so common that its ‘part of the biz’ , i hope the media pays attention to this case n make it front page stories only thn othrs wil be cought ..

]]> By: Paul Tan http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36049 Paul Tan Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:00:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36049 Isamu: It's only 6.67% shareholding. Isamu: It’s only 6.67% shareholding.

]]> By: DAN http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36047 DAN Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:11:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36047 just part of it , dont say there dont do a job, cos not enough to feeding all . so go n find more , any way beside u n u all r been corruption in government department ,cos there all dont no what there r doing just sack of job but dont no what there r doing. just part of it , dont say there dont do a job, cos not enough to feeding all .
so go n find more , any way beside u n u all r been corruption in government department ,cos there all dont no what there r doing just sack of job but dont no what there r doing.

]]> By: Isamu http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36046 Isamu Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:08:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36046 Ara Borgstena is a Proton subsidiary. Does it make any sense if you try to bribe someone from the parent company to get business? Ara Borgstena is a Proton subsidiary. Does it make any sense if you try to bribe someone from the parent company to get business?

]]> By: Initial D http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36044 Initial D Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:30:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36044 corruption is everywhere...............duno when it will end...... corruption is everywhere……………duno when it will end……

]]> By: aksMs http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36042 aksMs Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:14:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36042 This also prove the accusation by some of the commentors here that some Proton officers do make money for themselves. I wish more officers in Proton like that ex-Proton will be brought to justice and make it public. By the way, these things happens everyday, everywhere. From private sector to the government sector. A police officer once try to ask for 'duit kopi' just because the light on my rear plate no. is not working. Hell no. I don't condone to bribery. I pleaded. But he insisted 'indirectly'. Until a sergeant came to rescue and let me leave, without a ticket! Phew! This also prove the accusation by some of the commentors here that some Proton officers do make money for themselves. I wish more officers in Proton like that ex-Proton will be brought to justice and make it public.

By the way, these things happens everyday, everywhere. From private sector to the government sector. A police officer once try to ask for ‘duit kopi’ just because the light on my rear plate no. is not working. Hell no. I don’t condone to bribery. I pleaded. But he insisted ‘indirectly’. Until a sergeant came to rescue and let me leave, without a ticket! Phew!

]]> By: Tracks http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36039 Tracks Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:59:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36039 The cases brought forward are mere public display that the government is doing something about it. It it just the tip of the iceberg. Corruption is everywhere and is also causing the car prices to be higher. This is especially so in the case of single source parts that are supplied to the OEM because they are no competition. The cases brought forward are mere public display that the government is doing something about it. It it just the tip of the iceberg. Corruption is everywhere and is also causing the car prices to be higher. This is especially so in the case of single source parts that are supplied to the OEM because they are no competition.

]]> By: tariq http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36037 tariq Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:07:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/corruption-in-the-car-industry/#comment-36037 it's everywhere...it somewhat has become a norm..i mean some people just aren't ashamed/afraid to succumb to this practice nowadays....that's how dirty the game has gotten here. it’s everywhere…it somewhat has become a norm..i mean some people just aren’t ashamed/afraid to succumb to this practice nowadays….that’s how dirty the game has gotten here.

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