Comments on: NAP After-Effects: Honda announces new prices http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Thu, 24 May 2012 13:11:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: REDDEVIL http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36843 REDDEVIL Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:09:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36843 hello fellas..... i'm considering to buy a new car . is honda city idsi is a good buy? can someone introduce sales agent with good discount and services... i got an offer of RM400 discount with 2.71% interest rate lately.. anyone got the better offer than tis.. hello fellas…..

i'm considering to buy a new car . is honda city idsi is a good buy? can someone introduce sales agent with good discount and services… i got an offer of RM400 discount with 2.71% interest rate lately.. anyone got the better offer than tis..

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36776 yukkie Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:44:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36776 civicmind333 - juz to assure u, i noe a lot of hard-core Toyota fans are still dissapointed with no launching of new FL or G10 for Corolla/Altis to compete with Civic 2006. If situation remains the same, most Toyota fan will jump ship to Honda...hehe civicmind333 – juz to assure u, i noe a lot of hard-core Toyota fans are still dissapointed with no launching of new FL or G10 for Corolla/Altis to compete with Civic 2006. If situation remains the same, most Toyota fan will jump ship to Honda…hehe

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36774 yukkie Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:35:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36774 civicmind333 Strut saves space. May be Honda needs space to accommodate the overhaul of engine design on last the Civic. Coincidently, last gen civic engine size has increased from 1.6 to 1.7l. The other obvious reason is cost saving due to less parts in strut design. Since then racers who likes to tune or lower the car hate it. Strut is not easy to lower the car as compare to DWB. Most probally you need an expensive lowering kit to slam your Civic If I am not wrong, Honda only claimed it improves traction, easy to steer and better response. To me, no differences. civicmind333

Strut saves space. May be Honda needs space to accommodate the overhaul of engine design on last the Civic. Coincidently, last gen civic engine size has increased from 1.6 to 1.7l. The other obvious reason is cost saving due to less parts in strut design.

Since then racers who likes to tune or lower the car hate it. Strut is not easy to lower the car as compare to DWB. Most probally you need an expensive lowering kit to slam your Civic

If I am not wrong, Honda only claimed it improves traction, easy to steer and better response. To me, no differences.

]]> By: civicmind333 http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36762 civicmind333 Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:20:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36762 you are right honda got no answer for us maybe you like to share what you know? very much appreciate if you can, for me at least civic still got the dwb at the back better than none on the altis. at least you are more mature than altis fan who said even with the new civic he will choose the altis 1.8A. you are right honda got no answer for us maybe you like to share what you know? very much appreciate if you can, for me at least civic still got the dwb at the back better than none on the altis. at least you are more mature than altis fan who said even with the new civic he will choose the altis 1.8A.

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36748 yukkie Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:43:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36748 civicmind333 - Sad that we dun have F1 engineer to maintain the only DWB at Civic rear suspension. They r to busy to even look our private car. To me, DWB is still simple because it is already a mature technology for decades. What we have now is purely enhancement and modification, or so-called variation. If u r truly a car enthusiast, to use DWB to greater effect, the front independant suspension shld also use DWB to get the maximum cornering power out of the tires and give maximum predictability when confronted with an emergency situation. Honda offered no convincing answer abt the change to hard-core Honda enthusiast last time. civicmind333 – Sad that we dun have F1 engineer to maintain the only DWB at Civic rear suspension. They r to busy to even look our private car. To me, DWB is still simple because it is already a mature technology for decades. What we have now is purely enhancement and modification, or so-called variation.

If u r truly a car enthusiast, to use DWB to greater effect, the front independant suspension shld also use DWB to get the maximum cornering power out of the tires and give maximum predictability when confronted with an emergency situation. Honda offered no convincing answer abt the change to hard-core Honda enthusiast last time.

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36736 yukkie Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:20:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36736 Dear my friends - Civicmind333 & Accordmania If Honda always give u latest technology, the front suspension was DWB before for Civic. Honda replaced and reverted Civic front from DWB to structs again since last gen. This is backward technology. Ur theory abt Honda Frontier Tech is not backed by this outdated change. I thought u only considered Car that has DWB is latest tech. So Renault Megane 1.6 has no DWB, so equaivalent to age stone. This is ur claim, not mine. Again, for two of you. I love Honda because I have one and I am still enjoying my ride. I agree with you that at the moment...If I have RM120K to buy a 1.8A Car, I will only choose Civic 2006 over Altis 1.8A. I will not give Altis a second thought. This is exactly what I have done. But Altis still served me well for the past few years. Dear my friends – Civicmind333 & Accordmania

If Honda always give u latest technology, the front suspension was DWB before for Civic. Honda replaced and reverted Civic front from DWB to structs again since last gen. This is backward technology. Ur theory abt Honda Frontier Tech is not backed by this outdated change.

I thought u only considered Car that has DWB is latest tech. So Renault Megane 1.6 has no DWB, so equaivalent to age stone. This is ur claim, not mine.

Again, for two of you. I love Honda because I have one and I am still enjoying my ride. I agree with you that at the moment…If I have RM120K to buy a 1.8A Car, I will only choose Civic 2006 over Altis 1.8A. I will not give Altis a second thought. This is exactly what I have done. But Altis still served me well for the past few years.

]]> By: accordmania http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36685 accordmania Sun, 09 Apr 2006 23:18:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36685 wah lau eh , civicmind333 u are so great wah lau eh , civicmind333 u are so great

]]> By: civicmind333 http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36681 civicmind333 Sun, 09 Apr 2006 22:17:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36681 Hello I mean the rear suspension not the front and suspension is never meant to be simple, it is meant to give you maximun control out of your car and this is never easy for the engineer bcos they have to take ride comfort and ride height into consideration also.I never say Renault is lousy and stone age, what makes you said so? find a previous 2001 civic and compare the cabin space and the legroom with your altis then you will know the difference.if suspension is meant to be simple F1 engineer will be out of their job! to the naked eye and layman it will always be simple but not the people who is passionate about their car and cars enthusiast.Thank You. Hello I mean the rear suspension not the front and suspension is never meant to be simple, it is meant to give you maximun control out of your car and this is never easy for the engineer bcos they have to take ride comfort and ride height into consideration also.I never say Renault is lousy and stone age, what makes you said so? find a previous 2001 civic and compare the cabin space and the legroom with your altis then you will know the difference.if suspension is meant to be simple F1 engineer will be out of their job! to the naked eye and layman it will always be simple but not the people who is passionate about their car and cars enthusiast.Thank You.

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36657 yukkie Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:28:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36657 Civicmind333 - If DWB is so great, why Honda must replace the front with structs again since last civic. DWB is good, but car with no DWB does not mean to be a lousy car. Pls bear in mind most car in 1.5/1.6 cat like Nissan Centra, Tiida, Mazda3, Altis 1.6A, Renault Megane and etc are still using struts, i think BMW as well. Suspension is meant to be simple and effective. Stuts if properly designed and installed is still a very good technology. I still dun noe y u claim Toyota give u age stone tech. If so F1 champion Renault is lousy and age stone. Hey...Altis cabin space is still better than old civic, I experience it. But Civic 2006 is definately better. Accordmania & King- Toyota and Honda themself do not "tipu" ur money. It is the G that impose high tax, and the dealer like KM & UMW that jack up the profit to make foreign budget cars look expensive and underspec. Car maker orginal price is fair and square. Civicmind333 – If DWB is so great, why Honda must replace the front with structs again since last civic. DWB is good, but car with no DWB does not mean to be a lousy car. Pls bear in mind most car in 1.5/1.6 cat like Nissan Centra, Tiida, Mazda3, Altis 1.6A, Renault Megane and etc are still using struts, i think BMW as well. Suspension is meant to be simple and effective. Stuts if properly designed and installed is still a very good technology. I still dun noe y u claim Toyota give u age stone tech. If so F1 champion Renault is lousy and age stone. Hey…Altis cabin space is still better than old civic, I experience it. But Civic 2006 is definately better.

Accordmania & King- Toyota and Honda themself do not "tipu" ur money. It is the G that impose high tax, and the dealer like KM & UMW that jack up the profit to make foreign budget cars look expensive and underspec. Car maker orginal price is fair and square.

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36606 yukkie Sat, 08 Apr 2006 11:28:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36606 Hi Fren...I am a pround owner of Civic 2006. My family is still owning an Altis. So to be frank I like both brand of jap car. You hatam which brand I also sad and upset. Hi Fren…I am a pround owner of Civic 2006. My family is still owning an Altis. So to be frank I like both brand of jap car. You hatam which brand I also sad and upset.

]]> By: accordmania http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36599 accordmania Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:47:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36599 let's all be friend and don't hatam each other. let's all be friend and don't hatam each other.

]]> By: accordmania http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36598 accordmania Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:40:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36598 i salute u guys : civicmind333 and king i salute u guys : civicmind333 and king

]]> By: civicmind333 http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36590 civicmind333 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 06:46:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36590 Hail! The KING you are right. yukkie must be driving a toyota that is why sooo upset about what we said. what is fair in this world? altis 1.8 cabin space is not as big as civic1.7 please have a closer look and some more civic has flat floor at the back. We are not hataming ppllah, just a open mind disscussion don be upset. Hail! The KING you are right. yukkie must be driving a toyota that is why sooo upset about what we said. what is fair in this world? altis 1.8 cabin space is not as big as civic1.7 please have a closer look and some more civic has flat floor at the back. We are not hataming ppllah, just a open mind disscussion don be upset.

]]> By: king http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36587 king Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:49:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36587 vios meter in the centre is just an excuse by toyota that it improves visibility. the real reason is to cut cost so that it is easier to cover all markets with both left hand and right hand drive with simple modifications. bottom line is, they sacrifice everything just to increase profit. Even coming new camry 2007 is supposed to come with the same engine "enhanced" but actually they have maily focused in reducing cost of it. Finally, look at innova and fortuner - same platform. Innova 2.0 A/T: 92,900.00 Fortuner 2.7 182,888.00: 1 fortuner can buy 2 innovas yet the interior of both cars are 90% the same. somemore fortuner using same engine as cheap hiace van which costs around 90k.toyota/UMW probably make 30-40k profit for each fortuner that even after tax increase for 4x4 category they still can reduce prices by 11k. yet there is still a waiting list for fortuner. profit more!!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ pity altis_fan is getting sucked dry while dreaming of becoming an "artist". vios meter in the centre is just an excuse by toyota that it improves visibility. the real reason is to cut cost so that it is easier to cover all markets with both left hand and right hand drive with simple modifications. bottom line is, they sacrifice everything just to increase profit. Even coming new camry 2007 is supposed to come with the same engine "enhanced" but actually they have maily focused in reducing cost of it.

Finally, look at innova and fortuner – same platform.

Innova 2.0 A/T: 92,900.00

Fortuner 2.7 182,888.00:

1 fortuner can buy 2 innovas yet the interior of both cars are 90% the same. somemore fortuner using same engine as cheap hiace van which costs around 90k.toyota/UMW probably make 30-40k profit for each fortuner that even after tax increase for 4×4 category they still can reduce prices by 11k. yet there is still a waiting list for fortuner.

profit more!!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ pity altis_fan is getting sucked dry while dreaming of becoming an "artist".

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36581 yukkie Fri, 07 Apr 2006 23:22:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36581 Civicmind333, assume u r price sensitive buyer: Original Price b4 G stupid tax & dealer profit Proton Waja 1.6A - RM31K Proton Wira 1.5A - RM22K Toyota Vios 1.5A - RM30K Toyota Altis 1.6A - RM39K Toyota Altis 1.8A - RM46K Honda City 1.5A - RM37K Honda Civic 1.8A - RM48K Vios price in fair market should be the same with Waja. I will choose Vios over Wira even Wira has bigger cabin space. If cabin space is what i need, I will chose Altis 1.6A. If you need good FC & a ok Cabin space, City 1.5A VTEC is a good choice. But if you need bigger car like 1.8A I will chose Altis 1.8A over Civic 1.7A. (b4 Civic 2006) Now Civis 2006 is the in-thing and newly launch. I definately chose Civic 2006 due to its fantastic outlook and impressive spec. So, dun hatam ppl. we make our choice, u make ur choice. Sad thing is that we dun have a fair market in Msia. High tax for foreign car is unfair to consumers and foriegn car maker. G is not transperant & we have no visibility over the pricing. Civicmind333, assume u r price sensitive buyer:

Original Price b4 G stupid tax & dealer profit

Proton Waja 1.6A – RM31K

Proton Wira 1.5A – RM22K

Toyota Vios 1.5A – RM30K

Toyota Altis 1.6A – RM39K

Toyota Altis 1.8A – RM46K

Honda City 1.5A – RM37K

Honda Civic 1.8A – RM48K

Vios price in fair market should be the same with Waja. I will choose Vios over Wira even Wira has bigger cabin space. If cabin space is what i need, I will chose Altis 1.6A. If you need good FC & a ok Cabin space, City 1.5A VTEC is a good choice. But if you need bigger car like 1.8A I will chose Altis 1.8A over Civic 1.7A. (b4 Civic 2006)

Now Civis 2006 is the in-thing and newly launch. I definately chose Civic 2006 due to its fantastic outlook and impressive spec.

So, dun hatam ppl. we make our choice, u make ur choice.

Sad thing is that we dun have a fair market in Msia. High tax for foreign car is unfair to consumers and foriegn car maker. G is not transperant & we have no visibility over the pricing.

]]> By: civicmind333 http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36573 civicmind333 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:41:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36573 aiya take it easylah Yukkie I am hataming Toyota it is just that altis fan said it is still better to buy altis now even after honda cut prices for the new civic what bullshit is this? altis is not a lousy car but the price you pay for it now for what you are getting is not worth the money.Toyota and Honda is all very good company and 10 YEARS AGO I will still buy CIVIC bcos of its good handling, 10 years ago Honda has double wishbone in civic already, what is toyota using for its rear suspension? and it is all depending on what you want out of a car, some want performance,some want comfort, some want good fuel economy and for all that you have to compare the pricing. Vios is a beautiful car if you want the look but if you want good cabin space forget it even wira or waja has better cabin space so relax my friend don be upset. I driven a lot of cars b4 and the bmw 3 series is one of the best in term of handling. aiya take it easylah Yukkie I am hataming Toyota it is just that altis fan said it is still better to buy altis now even after honda cut prices for the new civic what bullshit is this? altis is not a lousy car but the price you pay for it now for what you are getting is not worth the money.Toyota and Honda is all very good company and 10 YEARS AGO I will still buy CIVIC bcos of its good handling, 10 years ago Honda has double wishbone in civic already, what is toyota using for its rear suspension? and it is all depending on what you want out of a car, some want performance,some want comfort, some want good fuel economy and for all that you have to compare the pricing. Vios is a beautiful car if you want the look but if you want good cabin space forget it even wira or waja has better cabin space so relax my friend don be upset. I driven a lot of cars b4 and the bmw 3 series is one of the best in term of handling.

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36565 yukkie Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:57:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36565 Unser is sh*t. Please dun bother abt it.It is a Van basically. Unser is sh*t. Please dun bother abt it.It is a Van basically.

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36562 yukkie Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:51:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36562 But I dun think u have Civic 2006. So please own one ASAP. But I dun think u have Civic 2006. So please own one ASAP.

]]> By: accordmania http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36561 accordmania Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:43:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36561 hi yukkie yes we have honda of course. "The Power of Dream" last time we used to drive altis 7 unser but now we have wake up . and we want u all to realise that toyota is always put old tech which only durable but not up to date like honda does hi yukkie

yes we have honda of course. "The Power of Dream" last time we used to drive altis 7 unser but now we have wake up . and we want u all to realise that toyota is always put old tech which only durable but not up to date like honda does

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36554 yukkie Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:18:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36554 accordmania & civicmind333- What car do u drive? Please make sure u have one Civic 2006 & new Accord b4 lauching ur critic abt Altis. accordmania & civicmind333- What car do u drive? Please make sure u have one Civic 2006 & new Accord b4 lauching ur critic abt Altis.

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36552 yukkie Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:12:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36552 accordmania Please dun hatam Toyota. Ur old Honda civic is 10x sh*t when lauch last time. Past few year Altis outperform this car. So now, Civic 2006 is new and FL, definately has it advantage, but does not mean Altis is a lousy car than ur new Civic. accordmania

Please dun hatam Toyota. Ur old Honda civic is 10x sh*t when lauch last time. Past few year Altis outperform this car. So now, Civic 2006 is new and FL, definately has it advantage, but does not mean Altis is a lousy car than ur new Civic.

]]> By: civicmind333 http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36507 civicmind333 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:20:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36507 Altis Fan please wake up! The new civic has 5 speed auto, steptronics, HID light, Double wishbone suspension,flat floor,digital meter,dbw,vsa,4 airbags,opds,safety power window,eps,multifuntion steering,more spacious,superd handling and won 7 to 8 awards already and it is not easy to get awards in the US market and BMW, Mecz are implementing H.U.D in their car and toyota design the Vios meter in the center that is very dangerous when u move your eyes off the road to look at the meter and take a look that the crash test on the altis read it and you will know what I mean and have a good weekend :) Altis Fan please wake up! The new civic has 5 speed auto, steptronics, HID light, Double wishbone suspension,flat floor,digital meter,dbw,vsa,4 airbags,opds,safety power window,eps,multifuntion steering,more spacious,superd handling and won 7 to 8 awards already and it is not easy to get awards in the US market and BMW, Mecz are implementing H.U.D in their car and toyota design the Vios meter in the center that is very dangerous when u move your eyes off the road to look at the meter and take a look that the crash test on the altis read it and you will know what I mean and have a good weekend :)

]]> By: accordmania http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36491 accordmania Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:22:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36491 if toyota is come with new tech and sophisticated products then how come they design latest vios with meter in the centre, that will put the driver is dangerous when they need to look at the meter ??????? if toyota is come with new tech and sophisticated products then how come they design latest vios with meter in the centre, that will put the driver is dangerous when they need to look at the meter ???????

]]> By: altis_fan http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36413 altis_fan Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:42:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36413 Pity to Acordmaniac because he thinks that new modelcivic must come with new tech. Don't be fool. Look at tech altis has put, you said 'stone age'? C'mon brother, civic is implementing the same spec as altis. Open you wide eyes. One more thing, the name altis is so great. Jap people cannot pronound 'r' correctly, so they pronound like 'l'. So, we Malaysian should pronound as 'artis'. So, people who wants to be an artis must be elegant, yes? Same to the car !!! Pity to Acordmaniac because he thinks that new modelcivic must come

with new tech. Don't be fool. Look at tech altis has put, you said 'stone age'?

C'mon brother, civic is implementing the same spec as altis. Open you wide

eyes. One more thing, the name altis is so great. Jap people cannot pronound 'r' correctly, so they pronound like 'l'. So, we Malaysian should pronound as 'artis'. So, people who wants to be an artis must be elegant,

yes? Same to the car !!!

]]> By: REDDEVIL http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36391 REDDEVIL Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:42:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36391 ai........... car price down but interest rate increase, at the end.. no difference. why the rich keep sucking the poors' blood, richer get richer, poorer get poorer... ai……….. car price down but interest rate increase, at the end.. no difference.

why the rich keep sucking the poors' blood, richer get richer, poorer get poorer…

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36307 Joe Ooi Wed, 05 Apr 2006 10:17:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36307 civicmind333 said, April 4, 2006 @ 10:46 pm "I totally agree with accordmania, toyota has been bullshitting and sucking honest hardworking people money with their flintstone cars and their car is so expensive when u compare with others" Joe Ooi - In my opinion, Toyota neither bullsitting nor sucking honest hardworking people money, the real culprit is NAP and P1. accordmania said, April 4, 2006 @ 10:49 pm "king , at least you agree with me. i am very happy at least you realise that we should not just fooled by brand name like “toyota” we should buy latest technology. honda always looking for new technology for their latest car. i respect honda." Joe Ooi - Toyota shall be comparable if not more advance compare to Honda in term of technology, "Toyota" brand as estimated by Fortune 500 is worth approx. USD 22 Billions. Toyota never fool or give outdated technology, except P1! he, he, he, he, ....................... But to compare technological innovations, I vote Toyota because they are the world front runner in term of latest car technology! civicmind333 said,

April 4, 2006 @ 10:46 pm

"I totally agree with accordmania, toyota has been bullshitting and sucking honest hardworking people money with their flintstone cars and their car is so expensive when u compare with others"

Joe Ooi – In my opinion, Toyota neither bullsitting nor sucking honest hardworking people money, the real culprit is NAP and P1.

accordmania said,

April 4, 2006 @ 10:49 pm

"king , at least you agree with me. i am very happy at least you realise that we should not just fooled by brand name like “toyota” we should buy latest technology. honda always looking for new technology for their latest car. i respect honda."

Joe Ooi – Toyota shall be comparable if not more advance compare to Honda in term of technology, "Toyota" brand as estimated by Fortune 500 is worth approx. USD 22 Billions. Toyota never fool or give outdated technology, except P1! he, he, he, he, …………………..

But to compare technological innovations, I vote Toyota because they are the world front runner in term of latest car technology!

]]> By: king http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36293 king Wed, 05 Apr 2006 02:55:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36293 accordmania, must be either britney spears/ bratt pitt's butt is elegant lar....ahahahah accordmania, must be either britney spears/ bratt pitt's butt is elegant lar….ahahahah

]]> By: imrik82 http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36287 imrik82 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 23:26:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36287 urm paul my last post didnt went thru is it a firefox prob? anyway on a mac now wanted to say lets forget the fool and move on. And back into talking about cars this is a car blog/forum rite? i was wondering isnt jazz suppose to be the budget line of cars in the honda car family as in its below honda city? i am not a car freak so i might be wrong but the jazz price is just plain expensive! is the jazz fully imported? urm paul my last post didnt went thru is it a firefox prob? anyway on a mac now wanted to say lets forget the fool and move on. And back into talking about cars this is a car blog/forum rite?

i was wondering isnt jazz suppose to be the budget line of cars in the honda car family as in its below honda city? i am not a car freak so i might be wrong but the jazz price is just plain expensive! is the jazz fully imported?

]]> By: civicmind333 http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36286 civicmind333 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 23:24:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36286 hello hello

]]> By: civicmind333 http://paultan.org/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36285 civicmind333 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 23:21:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/03/31/nap-after-effects-honda-announces-new-prices/#comment-36285 I totally agree with accordmania toyota bullshiting and sucking honest hardworking people money with their stone age tech bull shiting it is high tech the back side of camry look like big mama elephant back side waiting to FART!!!! how do u justified the handling of the car??? I totally agree with accordmania toyota bullshiting and sucking honest hardworking people money with their stone age tech bull shiting it is high tech the back side of camry look like big mama elephant back side waiting to FART!!!! how do u justified the handling of the car???

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