Comments on: How much will a Toyota Yaris burn your pocket? http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Thu, 24 May 2012 13:11:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: josh http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-297665 josh Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:51:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-297665 Do u guys know what is call Quaility??? malaysia cars don`t have at all! Do u guys know what is call Quaility??? malaysia cars don`t have at all!

]]> By: josh http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-297663 josh Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:47:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-297663 That is a very good car compair with Myvi, No way is that expancive... all this is done by stupid malaysian.. That is a very good car compair with Myvi, No way is that expancive… all this is done by stupid malaysian..

]]> By: Akazamabamaboo http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-43642 Akazamabamaboo Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:51:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-43642 Thanks to Malaysian protectionism, we'll never be able to own nice cars without losing our arms and legs. Proton & Perodua will ALWAYS be pampered by our beloved government. Live the UK and you'll be served with a wide variety of nice cars to choose from. And the best part is that you can actually afford them. A 1997 Toyota Prado 3.0 Turbodiesel for GBP5,000 - around RM30,000-RM35,000? A brand new Mercedes-Benz E-Class for around GBP30,000 - compare that to its Malaysian price tag... Thanks to Malaysian protectionism, we'll never be able to own nice cars without losing our arms and legs. Proton & Perodua will ALWAYS be pampered by our beloved government. Live the UK and you'll be served with a wide variety of nice cars to choose from. And the best part is that you can actually afford them. A 1997 Toyota Prado 3.0 Turbodiesel for GBP5,000 – around RM30,000-RM35,000? A brand new Mercedes-Benz E-Class for around GBP30,000 – compare that to its Malaysian price tag…

]]> By: paultan.org » 3 hatches, a minicar and an MPV http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-38663 paultan.org » 3 hatches, a minicar and an MPV Tue, 16 May 2006 08:25:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-38663 [...] Motor Trader has a teaser on the two new CBU Toyota cars that will be revealed tonight (May 16) once the press embargo is over. From the teaser images, it’s confirmed that the two new Toyota CBUs will be the Toyota Wish and the Toyota Yaris hatchback. The Toyota Wish is an MPV competing with the Honda Stream. So far there are 1.8 liter and 2.0 grey import versions on the market, but it’s not known yet whether Toyota will be offering both models here or one of them through official channels. We’ll know tonight I guess. The Toyota Yaris hatchback is offered internationally with 1.0 liter, 1.3 liter, and 1.5 liter engines but it’s mostly likely that we will get the 1.5 liter model. From the spyshots that we’ve seen so far, I think it’s the 4-door model, which will put it in direct competition with the Honda Jazz, both being 4-door CBU hatchbacks. [...] [...] Motor Trader has a teaser on the two new CBU Toyota cars that will be revealed tonight (May 16) once the press embargo is over. From the teaser images, it’s confirmed that the two new Toyota CBUs will be the Toyota Wish and the Toyota Yaris hatchback. The Toyota Wish is an MPV competing with the Honda Stream. So far there are 1.8 liter and 2.0 grey import versions on the market, but it’s not known yet whether Toyota will be offering both models here or one of them through official channels. We’ll know tonight I guess. The Toyota Yaris hatchback is offered internationally with 1.0 liter, 1.3 liter, and 1.5 liter engines but it’s mostly likely that we will get the 1.5 liter model. From the spyshots that we’ve seen so far, I think it’s the 4-door model, which will put it in direct competition with the Honda Jazz, both being 4-door CBU hatchbacks. [...]

]]> By: yukkie http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36752 yukkie Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:12:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36752 I find that we are too price sensitive in discussion. This will hinder us to view things from different perspective. Usually, when car launch we should also discuss stuff like terget age, car response, handling, engine, fuel consumption, new spec and features and a lot more. But a lot of the time, we always first to criticise high price, G, tax and etc. Nothing wrong with these comments, but juz the culture here. I find that we are too price sensitive in discussion. This will hinder us to view things from different perspective. Usually, when car launch we should also discuss stuff like terget age, car response, handling, engine, fuel consumption, new spec and features and a lot more.

But a lot of the time, we always first to criticise high price, G, tax and etc. Nothing wrong with these comments, but juz the culture here.

]]> By: kay164 http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36746 kay164 Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:23:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36746 Hi guys...Think on the bright side...with a higher price, its a mark of status to its owner..do all of us have to own a merce or beemer to be considered as wealthy??how many times do u heard "whooaa!!ure driving a Honda??!!"..just imagine if the price is low==>"eh..u have a honda??its exactly just like my cousin's still in college..even the same colour"...ehehe..just my two cents..;) Hi guys…Think on the bright side…with a higher price, its a mark of status to its owner..do all of us have to own a merce or beemer to be considered as wealthy??how many times do u heard "whooaa!!ure driving a Honda??!!"..just imagine if the price is low==>"eh..u have a honda??its exactly just like my cousin's still in college..even the same colour"…ehehe..just my two cents..;)

]]> By: raverus http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36517 raverus Fri, 07 Apr 2006 10:24:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36517 THANKS G!!!! NICE TAX, WONDER HOW THE TAX MONEY IS SPEND...........WONDER.......MAYBE BY BACKING UP PROFIT LOSING P1? MAYBE..........WHAT A NICE WORLD...........I LOVE YOU G...............YEA RITE. THANKS G!!!! NICE TAX, WONDER HOW THE TAX MONEY IS SPEND………..WONDER…….MAYBE BY BACKING UP PROFIT LOSING P1? MAYBE……….WHAT A NICE WORLD………..I LOVE YOU G……………YEA RITE.

]]> By: Tracks http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36509 Tracks Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:29:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36509 cyborgx said, April 6, 2006 @ 7:53 pm "Yaris at RM85K hm.. whos gonna buy it? not mention 100K is ridiculous for 2-doors hatchback imo." Paul Tan posted a 3-doors hatchback picture. However, if you read a previous posting, you would have notice that there is a 5-doors hatchback version available which is most likely the version that UMW would be bringing into Malaysia. Now, what do you think of the price then? Jazz sold fairly well for cars in its category considering its steep price so Yariz is expected to emulate its sales performance and improved it further. cyborgx said,

April 6, 2006 @ 7:53 pm

"Yaris at RM85K hm.. whos gonna buy it? not mention 100K is ridiculous for 2-doors hatchback imo."

Paul Tan posted a 3-doors hatchback picture. However, if you read a previous posting, you would have notice that there is a 5-doors hatchback version available which is most likely the version that UMW would be bringing into Malaysia. Now, what do you think of the price then? Jazz sold fairly well for cars in its category considering its steep price so Yariz is expected to emulate its sales performance and improved it further.

]]> By: honda_driver http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36504 honda_driver Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:48:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36504 so who exactly is this person, maybe you should make it very clear? "Sad to see ppl terpedaya with the current unjust reality in Taxland automobile market. Defend it somemore… 4-0 to the spin doctors in their case." so who exactly is this person, maybe you should make it very clear?

"Sad to see ppl terpedaya with the current unjust reality in Taxland automobile market.

Defend it somemore…

4-0 to the spin doctors in their case."

]]> By: intermilan http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36485 intermilan Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:19:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36485 Thanks Joe Ooi to explain the 'just' reality concept in details . Sad to see ppl terpedaya with the current unjust reality in Taxland automobile market. Defend it somemore... 4-0 to the spin doctors in their case. Hope counter explaination given could be beneficial to them. A just pricing is what we looking for. Before AP issue, Car importer & dealer rake profit big time and to certain extent, customer benefit sikit2 too, but G loss due to rampant underdeclare practice. Some spin doctors cucuk the issue, many rakyat kebanyakan who might not see the whole picture attack the importer & dealer and AP Goddess. But this is just the spark some elements (in G ?) is looking for in brought up the issue in the very first place. Fast forward, Now G would most probably win big time (tax rate down but tax value up due to higher CIF & tax on tax), importer & dealer look like kena tiao & in dilemma, but it is we, the rakyat kebanyakan (i presume all in here are), who want non-Asean CBU car, who are the real big loser. In the end, desire of most rakyat for just pricing (Price vis-a-vis Quality) is not only not realised but was blown further away. Now, Some ppl give up the hope and dreams that they have. Some rested it for a while. For now, Sawi pun sawi lah they console themselves. But some ppl continue to harbour their hope and dreams. They would not let these get snatch away by those spin doctors you see.. Bravo to this ppl. "HONDA - The Power of Dreams". Ring any bells? Thanks Joe Ooi to explain the 'just' reality concept in details .

Sad to see ppl terpedaya with the current unjust reality in Taxland automobile market.

Defend it somemore…

4-0 to the spin doctors in their case.

Hope counter explaination given could be beneficial to them.

A just pricing is what we looking for.

Before AP issue, Car importer & dealer rake profit big time and to certain extent, customer benefit sikit2 too, but G loss due to rampant underdeclare practice.

Some spin doctors cucuk the issue, many rakyat kebanyakan who might not see the whole picture attack the importer & dealer and AP Goddess.

But this is just the spark some elements (in G ?) is looking for in brought up the issue in the very first place.

Fast forward, Now G would most probably win big time (tax rate down but tax value up due to higher CIF & tax on tax), importer & dealer look like kena tiao & in dilemma, but it is we, the rakyat kebanyakan (i presume all in here are), who want non-Asean CBU car, who are the real big loser.

In the end, desire of most rakyat for just pricing (Price vis-a-vis Quality) is not only not realised but was blown further away.

Now,

Some ppl give up the hope and dreams that they have.

Some rested it for a while. For now, Sawi pun sawi lah they console themselves.

But some ppl continue to harbour their hope and dreams. They would not let these get snatch away by those spin doctors you see.. Bravo to this ppl.

"HONDA – The Power of Dreams". Ring any bells?

]]> By: cyborgx http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36483 cyborgx Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:53:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36483 Yaris at RM85K hm.. whos gonna buy it? not mention 100K is ridiculous for 2-doors hatchback imo. (and Joe ooi.. let honda_driver mumble all he wants) Yaris at RM85K hm.. whos gonna buy it? not mention 100K is ridiculous for 2-doors hatchback imo.

(and Joe ooi.. let honda_driver mumble all he wants)

]]> By: kendo http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36481 kendo Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:00:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36481 actually, malaysian need only 2 major basic car models 1- Myvi1.3 at 40k with abs, airbags... 2- something like vios/ city- turned into national cars, price at 60k with abs, airbag.. (waja lets us down!) these 2 major models will capture about 300k units market here. the rest are just additional choices... actually,

malaysian need only 2 major basic car models

1- Myvi1.3 at 40k with abs, airbags…

2- something like vios/ city- turned into national cars,

price at 60k with abs, airbag.. (waja lets us down!)

these 2 major models will capture about 300k units market here.

the rest are just additional choices…

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36476 Joe Ooi Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:49:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36476 honda_driver - "if Paul says,”lets discuss yaris pricing”, lets respect him, and discuss yaris pricing." Joe Ooi - Of course we would like to stick and focus to the main topic, but sometime thing related to one and another. Say for example how P1 and NAP affect pricing, how it affect consumer satisfaction, etc. It can be price comparative analysis, PEST (Political, Economics, Social, and Technology) analysis or any constructive argument that directly or indirectly related to it. All this can't be ignore if we want to exhange ideas, info, and have "bird eye view" on subject matter under discussion. It is OK to speak up on any matters especially within car industry as a whole, that doesn't means it is out of topic or disrecpect to Paul! I strongly disagree with your opinion that we post comment other than "Yaris pricing" is tantamount to disrespectful to Paul Tan. Anyway, Paul may have and reserve his own opinion! honda_driver – "if Paul says,”lets discuss yaris pricing”, lets respect him, and discuss yaris pricing."

Joe Ooi – Of course we would like to stick and focus to the main topic, but sometime thing related to one and another. Say for example how P1 and NAP affect pricing, how it affect consumer satisfaction, etc. It can be price comparative analysis, PEST (Political, Economics, Social, and Technology) analysis or any constructive argument that directly or indirectly related to it. All this can't be ignore if we want to exhange ideas, info, and have "bird eye view" on subject matter under discussion.

It is OK to speak up on any matters especially within car industry as a whole, that doesn't means it is out of topic or disrecpect to Paul! I strongly disagree with your opinion that we post comment other than "Yaris pricing" is tantamount to disrespectful to Paul Tan. Anyway, Paul may have and reserve his own opinion!

]]> By: spaceMonkey http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36470 spaceMonkey Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:21:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36470 whoa, i love tat u hv info of the new Yaris waaaay before the press release and all tat jazz. i love the design but to think that it is gonna cost so much is a little ... too much... because i hv recently read it online that Yaris is suppose to be an economical car. whatever it is i hope it is not too nice and not too cheap cos i just got a swift. :P whoa, i love tat u hv info of the new Yaris waaaay before the press release and all tat jazz. i love the design but to think that it is gonna cost so much is a little … too much… because i hv recently read it online that Yaris is suppose to be an economical car.

whatever it is i hope it is not too nice and not too cheap cos i just got a swift. :P

]]> By: honda_driver http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36466 honda_driver Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:44:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36466 its easy to talk in a forum.. we just type whatever we want, and hit submit. its fine to have an opinion, but to keep giving the same opinion, in all the different topics, on the same website, is a little tiring. if Paul says,"lets discuss yaris pricing", lets respect him, and discuss yaris pricing. If he posts up a topic on, "is the govt doing a good job?", then lets post the relevant topics there. anything wrong with that? its easy to talk in a forum.. we just type whatever we want, and hit submit. its fine to have an opinion, but to keep giving the same opinion, in all the different topics, on the same website, is a little tiring.

if Paul says,"lets discuss yaris pricing", lets respect him, and discuss yaris pricing. If he posts up a topic on, "is the govt doing a good job?", then lets post the relevant topics there.

anything wrong with that?

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36465 Joe Ooi Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:41:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36465 Agreed with Paul, Vios is sub-compact design for Asian market. Consider as low price budget car, the predecessor (previous model) is market under "Soluna" in Thailand! Agreed with Paul, Vios is sub-compact design for Asian market. Consider as low price budget car, the predecessor (previous model) is market under "Soluna" in Thailand!

]]> By: raptorclans http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36464 raptorclans Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:31:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36464 yeah right on paul. the vios is sort of an ASEAN car, like the previous model (not sold here), so it's sort of lesser if compared to the other models yeah right on paul. the vios is sort of an ASEAN car, like the previous model (not sold here), so it's sort of lesser if compared to the other models

]]> By: skay http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36448 skay Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:57:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36448 Paul : I agree with you. We had to customise it ourself after purchase for better performance you know. Paul : I agree with you. We had to customise it ourself after purchase for better performance you know.

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36437 Joe Ooi Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:51:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36437 honda_driver said, April 6, 2006 @ 7:28 am This is my personal opinion only. honda_driver - intermilan , please read my posting before you comment on what i’ve said. i’m talking based on the reality of the situation we face today living in Malaysia. Joe Ooi - If we talk on reality, then timing should take into consideration as well. Then both of you (honda_driver & intermilan) are totally right, the only culprit and the verdict are the wrongdoers are P1 and G (NAP). Look at intermilan comment can be sum up as reality on future "reality" (beyond 2010 scenario in which G have to embrace open market as G have already signed AFTA, WTO, others FTAs, etc.). Honda_driver is relevant and applicable i today market situation. honda_driver - "The realistic price that UMW will sell the yaris, in my opinion, will still be between RM90k-105k." Joe Ooi - This statement is applicable for current market condition under "car Taxland" honda_driver - "to expect to actually see a yaris on sale at rm65-70K in malaysia today, is a dream.." Joe Ooi - Yes, today it is a dream to see Yaris price at RM 65 - 70K. "We must have a dream, then only it can become reality in future". shaif said, April 6, 2006 @ 9:47 am shaif - "I support you honda_driver as that we have to face the reality in here. We can talk all night long about the riduculous taxation scheme, but back to reality, we have to face it. It make people sad but thats reality man. Like old man saying’ like the dogs barking at the hill’ (seperti anjing menyalak bukit). the hill will never moved and the dog will exhausted. Its reality only in Bolehland." Joe Ooi - We have to face this taxland for today doesn't mean we shall suffer and burden with it for forever! With today modern technology, at least to a certain extent, we can prove the Malay proverb "seperti anjing menyalak bukit" can be "alter" or not applicable in this case. Chances for rakyat/consumers voice to be heard by G to change P1 and NAP is likely impossible, that is we have low chance of make changes by "bubble up from bottom" approach, or in other word, to make "Thailand style" approach. However, we shall not give up hope as other method - "Top Down" approach, that is our G signed and committed to WTO, AFTA, others FTA will consitute a "high intensity" force like "machine gun support by big cannon spraying out all kinds of bullets and carry out carpet bombing flatten everything (P1 & NAP)on it path left no stone unturned!" Therefore, after 2010 onward, we as consumers are not burden by and free from taxland "Domino Effects" - blood sucking P1, overprice cars, bad quality, unsafe car, additional insurance premium due to higher price, irritate by malfunctioning components like power window, creaking sound, etc. Once big fat crocs, P1 & NAP are gone, we will free from the above-mentioned "encumbrances". At that time (likely after 2010), those who can afford 1.6L Waja will be able to buy 2.4L Camry at a price sligtly higher (less than RM 8K). We can enjoy the benefits of "multiplier effect" - bigger car, bigger cc, safer car, more confort, improve our Purchasing Power Parity (PPP), less headache on component mulfunctioning, less insurance premium (due to lower price), perhap less road tax as the rate no longer base on cc, but base on categories (small, midsize, luxury, SUV, MPV, etc.). G also can increase the current highway top speed NOT from 110 Km/H to 120 Km/H, but can increase to highway international standard design speed, if UK is use as an indication, it is 170 Km/H for three (3) lanes and 140Km/H for 2 lanes (at that time our road are free from P1 unsafe cars). Ultimitately, we as a consumers enjoy the fullest not only for quality car at value for money, but also can afford (that suppose is our right but rob of by P1 & NAP) to enjoy the luxury and comfort as well as travel at higher speed at highway. In economic sense, especially say for logistic commercial vehicles, lower speed at highway also mean lost of time, which equal to loss of productivity and increase i cost! We must have a dream for future, which is "REALISTIC" and can become "REALITY" in the very near future, beyond 2010 (don't give up hope, keep sending your comment in this blog). honda_driver said,

April 6, 2006 @ 7:28 am

This is my personal opinion only.

honda_driver – intermilan , please read my posting before you comment on what i’ve said. i’m talking based on the reality of the situation we face today living in Malaysia.

Joe Ooi – If we talk on reality, then timing should take into consideration as well. Then both of you (honda_driver & intermilan) are totally right, the only culprit and the verdict are the wrongdoers are P1 and G (NAP). Look at intermilan comment can be sum up as reality on future "reality" (beyond 2010 scenario in which G have to embrace open market as G have already signed AFTA, WTO, others FTAs, etc.). Honda_driver is relevant and applicable i today market situation.

honda_driver – "The realistic price that UMW will sell the yaris, in my opinion, will still be between RM90k-105k."

Joe Ooi – This statement is applicable for current market condition under "car Taxland"

honda_driver – "to expect to actually see a yaris on sale at rm65-70K in malaysia today, is a dream.."

Joe Ooi – Yes, today it is a dream to see Yaris price at RM 65 – 70K. "We must have a dream, then only it can become reality in future".

shaif said,

April 6, 2006 @ 9:47 am

shaif – "I support you honda_driver as that we have to face the reality in here. We can talk all night long about the riduculous taxation scheme, but back to reality, we have to face it. It make people sad but thats reality man. Like old man saying’ like the dogs barking at the hill’ (seperti anjing menyalak bukit). the hill will never moved and the dog will exhausted. Its reality only in Bolehland."

Joe Ooi – We have to face this taxland for today doesn't mean we shall suffer and burden with it for forever! With today modern technology, at least to a certain extent, we can prove the Malay proverb "seperti anjing menyalak bukit" can be "alter" or not applicable in this case. Chances for rakyat/consumers voice to be heard by G to change P1 and NAP is likely impossible, that is we have low chance of make changes by "bubble up from bottom" approach, or in other word, to make "Thailand style" approach.

However, we shall not give up hope as other method – "Top Down" approach, that is our G signed and committed to WTO, AFTA, others FTA will consitute a "high intensity" force like "machine gun support by big cannon spraying out all kinds of bullets and carry out carpet bombing flatten everything (P1 & NAP)on it path left no stone unturned!" Therefore, after 2010 onward, we as consumers are not burden by and free from taxland "Domino Effects" – blood sucking P1, overprice cars, bad quality, unsafe car, additional insurance premium due to higher price, irritate by malfunctioning components like power window, creaking sound, etc.

Once big fat crocs, P1 & NAP are gone, we will free from the above-mentioned "encumbrances". At that time (likely after 2010), those who can afford 1.6L Waja will be able to buy 2.4L Camry at a price sligtly higher (less than RM 8K). We can enjoy the benefits of "multiplier effect" – bigger car, bigger cc, safer car, more confort, improve our Purchasing Power Parity (PPP), less headache on component mulfunctioning, less insurance premium (due to lower price), perhap less road tax as the rate no longer base on cc, but base on categories (small, midsize, luxury, SUV, MPV, etc.).

G also can increase the current highway top speed NOT from 110 Km/H to 120 Km/H, but can increase to highway international standard design speed, if UK is use as an indication, it is 170 Km/H for three (3) lanes and 140Km/H for 2 lanes (at that time our road are free from P1 unsafe cars). Ultimitately, we as a consumers enjoy the fullest not only for quality car at value for money, but also can afford (that suppose is our right but rob of by P1 & NAP) to enjoy the luxury and comfort as well as travel at higher speed at highway. In economic sense, especially say for logistic commercial vehicles, lower speed at highway also mean lost of time, which equal to loss of productivity and increase i cost!

We must have a dream for future, which is "REALISTIC" and can become "REALITY" in the very near future, beyond 2010 (don't give up hope, keep sending your comment in this blog).

]]> By: revver http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36436 revver Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:38:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36436 why must u got bored with people's wright? rediculous! u got ur own and they have theirs. if u still like s**cking the G a** then carry on. why must u stop them from doing so. people are no longer blind nor deaf or dumb. Tax has been sucking people blood too much. Most already dried until they cant even lift their hand. Back to reality? Of course they r talking about the reality and u r the one who keep on dreaming. or else u got some ' coffee money' from the G to keep ur mouth shut. Pathetic! why must u got bored with people's wright? rediculous! u got ur own and they have theirs. if u still like s**cking the G a** then carry on. why must u stop them from doing so. people are no longer blind nor deaf or dumb. Tax has been sucking people blood too much. Most already dried until they cant even lift their hand. Back to reality? Of course they r talking about the reality and u r the one who keep on dreaming. or else u got some ' coffee money' from the G to keep ur mouth shut. Pathetic!

]]> By: honda_driver http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36433 honda_driver Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:18:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36433 its fine to express your dissatisfication.. but i think its already tiring and boring to see people continuously talk about what we cannot change. "Close Proton", not going to happen.., "Change Govt", not going to happen, "Vote pas, or DAP..etc" will petrol prices come down if they take power? i dont think so. back to the actual topic. yes paul, i agree. the vios is a budget toyota, built for this region. and it does feel cheap, for a toyota. but at least, its allowed more people to own a new toyota. but i'm pretty sure there is a market for the yaris. and people will buy the car. look at the mini, at rm170-190k for a tiny car that sells for 12,000 pounds in the uk. or a smart at over rm100k, and is supposed to be a cheap budget car in europe. there will always be buyers who want something different, and who can afford it. its fine to express your dissatisfication.. but i think its already tiring and boring to see people continuously talk about what we cannot change. "Close Proton", not going to happen.., "Change Govt", not going to happen, "Vote pas, or DAP..etc" will petrol prices come down if they take power? i dont think so.

back to the actual topic.

yes paul, i agree. the vios is a budget toyota, built for this region. and it does feel cheap, for a toyota. but at least, its allowed more people to own a new toyota.

but i'm pretty sure there is a market for the yaris. and people will buy the car. look at the mini, at rm170-190k for a tiny car that sells for 12,000 pounds in the uk. or a smart at over rm100k, and is supposed to be a cheap budget car in europe. there will always be buyers who want something different, and who can afford it.

]]> By: Paul Tan http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36421 Paul Tan Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:23:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36421 The Toyota Yaris is a proper Toyota. I always think the Toyota Vios is something Toyota came up with for the ASEAN market... don't you all feel the Vios feels abit cheap? The Toyota Yaris is a proper Toyota. I always think the Toyota Vios is something Toyota came up with for the ASEAN market… don't you all feel the Vios feels abit cheap?

]]> By: raptorclans http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36420 raptorclans Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:16:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36420 Actually the Yaris is better equipped and normally higher proved than the Vios in foreign markets... so it's doubtful it's gonna be any cheaper :( Actually the Yaris is better equipped and normally higher proved than the Vios in foreign markets… so it's doubtful it's gonna be any cheaper :(

]]> By: go_go http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36418 go_go Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:04:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36418 altis_fan said, April 6, 2006 @ 9:52 am If the price is close to 100K, then better buy altis 1.6, why pay more to 1.3? ____________________ totally agree with you... y we should pay over Rm100k for 1.3 car? It is not toyota, its the damn tax making the price over reasonable level... Yes we have to face the reality and try to adapt to this matter... altis_fan said,

April 6, 2006 @ 9:52 am

If the price is close to 100K, then better buy altis 1.6, why pay more to 1.3?

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totally agree with you… y we should pay over Rm100k for 1.3 car? It is not toyota, its the damn tax making the price over reasonable level… Yes we have to face the reality and try to adapt to this matter…

]]> By: CarCar http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36417 CarCar Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:03:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36417 For 80++k, i'm able to buy new Vios....way better than Yaris....STUPID Pricing!!! For 80++k, i'm able to buy new Vios….way better than Yaris….STUPID Pricing!!!

]]> By: motorhead http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36416 motorhead Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:03:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36416 Aiseyy.. whats wrong with express our dissatisfaction & feelings??.. Ok what.. let them be la.. at least it give a little pressure to gov.. or some pressure for poton to improve what.... dont say bising2 is not necessary... if Syed Zainal went to this web, he can see our point.. so he has no choice but to improve.. pls go and read the star today la.. he heard all the negative critisms all right.. from where?? may from here.. who knows... The fact is our car tax not relevan in our reality life 2day... the world is watching us.. they know oso.. thats why poton cannot sell outside,.. the Japs oso disagree with our market discrimination.... forget la want to be auto hub.. rubbish!!! Aiseyy.. whats wrong with express our dissatisfaction & feelings??.. Ok what.. let them be la.. at least it give a little pressure to gov.. or some pressure for poton to improve what…. dont say bising2 is not necessary… if Syed Zainal went to this web, he can see our point.. so he has no choice but to improve.. pls go and read the star today la.. he heard all the negative critisms all right.. from where?? may from here.. who knows…

The fact is our car tax not relevan in our reality life 2day… the world is watching us.. they know oso.. thats why poton cannot sell outside,.. the Japs oso disagree with our market discrimination…. forget la want to be auto hub.. rubbish!!!

]]> By: altis_fan http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36415 altis_fan Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:52:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36415 If the price is close to 100K, then better buy altis 1.6, why pay more to 1.3? If the price is close to 100K, then better buy altis 1.6, why pay more to 1.3?

]]> By: shaif http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36414 shaif Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:47:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36414 I support you honda_driver as that we have to face the reality in here. We can talk all night long about the riduculous taxation scheme, but back to reality, we have to face it. It make people sad but thats reality man. Like old man saying' like the dogs barking at the hill' (seperti anjing menyalak bukit). the hill will never moved and the dog will exhausted. Its reality only in Bolehland. I support you honda_driver as that we have to face the reality in here. We can talk all night long about the riduculous taxation scheme, but back to reality, we have to face it. It make people sad but thats reality man. Like old man saying' like the dogs barking at the hill' (seperti anjing menyalak bukit). the hill will never moved and the dog will exhausted. Its reality only in Bolehland.

]]> By: go_go http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36412 go_go Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:30:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36412 Toyota Yaris definately a good car... but the price is far beyond reason... If i ever afford to have it, i might not consider... Even have NAP also the car price still high... better i simpan duit beli rumah... hahaha... Taxland... haha :) Toyota Yaris definately a good car… but the price is far beyond reason… If i ever afford to have it, i might not consider… Even have NAP also the car price still high… better i simpan duit beli rumah… hahaha… Taxland… haha :)

]]> By: Driven2020 http://paultan.org/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36411 Driven2020 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:27:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/04/05/how-much-will-a-toyota-yaris-burn-your-pocket/#comment-36411 REDDEVIL said, April 5, 2006 @ 6:48 pm hey, why the Renault distributor in malaysia did not introduce the Clio in malaysia… it’s a very nice car.. ________________________________________________________________ Yeah it's a nice car, but don't forget the car price maybe too high for us. Look at the SmartForFour car, it's 1.3L variant price is around 100K so it might probably be around that region too. REDDEVIL said,

April 5, 2006 @ 6:48 pm

hey, why the Renault distributor in malaysia did not introduce the Clio in malaysia… it’s a very nice car..

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Yeah it's a nice car, but don't forget the car price maybe too high for us. Look at the SmartForFour car, it's 1.3L variant price is around 100K so it might probably be around that region too.

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