Yes, Proton is part of G 1970s and 80s objective to achieve industrialisation.Yes Proton create jobs, but for G to create employment not necessary have to maintain P1 which suppose to create wealth to nation. But current P1 conditions indeed is a liability to nation and consumer have to suffer in the form of excessive tax to sustain its existence. In other word, P1 economic output is less than the cost need to maintain it, therefore it is economically not viable! This can be reflected in draconian NAP tax structure. There is no balance of benefits but unequal suffering by consumers, Consumers normally not greedy but businessman always,…

UK : no paying customer who work in auto industry
US/Japan : imported car is made by same tax paying corporation
Korea : no tax else the corporation shift production to other countres.

I never study political science but I the relation between tax and jobs is included a macro economy textbook.

NAP is viable for auto mfr as it caters ASEAN market but the old structure is not viable as M’sian market is too small. Growth can be seen from less developed countris as their infra improve more car can be sold.

You need to closed down P1, P2 and NAZA – the economic impact is really big. Let say Rawang (for P2), 65% of the lisenced factories and shops are linked to Perodua taking about 75% of working population. For Shah Alam 60% of lisenced factories and shops are linked to Proton taking about 62% of the working pop. P1 , P2 and vendors are still low skill labour intensive thus 40% don’t know anything else apart from working in auto sector. How do u cater for that? Rover is okay as UK is a welfare state as also detroit. Data from jabatan perangkaan malaysia.

NAP tax structure : Asean G benefit by securing jobs for auto sector
Joe Ooi – consumers still suffer a lot.

UK : No need protective measure as there are no auto sector
Joe Ooi – G and consumers benefits a lot.

Aus : Economy big enough to provide subsidy to own auto sector
Joe Ooi – G and consumers benefits a lot.

Japan/US : Mfrer is big enough no need for protective tariff
Joe Ooi – G and consumers benefits a lot.

Korea : Mfrer own by global corporation ne need protective tariff.
Joe Ooi – G and consumers benefits a lot.

Hope you understand NAP need to be abolished and closed P1 which is economically not viable! lol, …….. and embrace open market like UK, Aus, Japan, US and Korea.

old tax structure : M’sian G benefit by securing jobs for auto sector
NAP tax structure : Asean G benefit by securing jobs for auto sector
UK : No need protective measure as there are no auto sector
Aus : Economy big enough to provide subsidy to own auto sector
Japan/US : Mfrer is big enough no need for protective tariff
Korea : Mfrer own by global corporation ne need protective tariff.

understand?

P1nowadays should see the market..the new models from other manufacturers. Should come out with cars like the new Civic etc. then P1 can be a competitor. Put aside old design and come out with a new one. P1 must always look forward. Improve every aspect before entering US market. US expectation is different. P1 card must have good look and equipped technology like GPS system etc.Honda also have to change the models a bit just to fit their cars in US.

Look at the market now. Watch how hyundai grows. 20 years in this industry like P1 but has improved a lot.

P1, please open ur eyes and learn….

Saga is different case and Proton has admitted to subsidizing the price to create market presence. But from Waja onwards its profit for Proton. In fact Proton make about 30% more profit per car for export version (complete with ABS/Airbags/EBD + transportation etc..) then local version. Source Proton P&L statement, available to the public as Proton is public listed company.

Thats the reason for the push into export market.

But for UK market, they experience Saga, Pesona (Wira), Impian (Waja), Gen-2 and recently Savvy. Until today, Proton still expected Malaysian to be patriotic by supporting their product but Proton “never” patriotic in term of protecting consumer rights. In 1990s, they sold cars (Saga, Pesona) in UK from GBP 8K to 9K (exchange rate b4 1997 financial crisis is around 3.9 to 4.0) well below RM 40K but in Malaysian market more than RM 40K. Until today Savvy in UK market is lower than our market, where is fair considering other factors like UK specs and logistic cost?

I do think the newer countries never see or experience Waja/Wira/Iswara (undle and mak cik car) they will look at Gen2/Savvy (young&sporty) from different perspective.

*aiya.. sori.. lupe capital lock *

Ok what.. better than none.. at least we try! TRY to enter the LHD market..
Inside of bashing like most of here!..
The philosophy said :

GAGAL SELEPAS MENCUBA ADALAH LEBIH BAIK DARI GAGAL MENCUBA!
not all thing is bad. apa yang buat proton tuh BURUK pada mata orang luar ada KAMU SEMUA YANG KATA IA BURUK..

kalau iswara, wira etc BURUK saya pun setuju!..
Tapi savvy, tidak, ia adalah kereta yang BAIK!..

Do Proton really find success with its newer model in countries like South Africa or Taiwan, considering that its sales figure even can’t beat older models like Waja, Wira and Iswara? You ask yourself, the magazine might have certain criteria in their assessment, but look at commercial success in term of sales, it is a “failure”, even compare with its “older brothers”.

So they like Gen2, so may be like South Africa, Taiwan is another country that proton find success with its newer model.

“like i said, he came in too late to do any drastic changes, but he still can stop the launch if he doesnt like it.

i think the new MD is better than the old one. Of course TM is a car nut, but he builds what he wants, and NOT what the rakyat wants.

Syed Zainal is more keen to save the company for going further down into the slump.”

Joe Ooi – Definitely MD SZ is better and capable of leading P1, unfortunately “P1 failed to follow MD”! You put Carlos Ghosh or any CEO from Merc, Honda, Toyota, etc in P1, “P1 will still fail all these top gun misery”! The problems lies on P1 & NAP, not MD SZ. Time will prove it!………… In fact P1 fail everyone, the G, NAP, Consumers, Tax payers, rakyat, etc……….

if u need some comments on gen2 1.3A, y don u check out the “gen2 1.3A” post in this blog…..there’s many comments (including myself) from current gen2 1.3A users…

i think the new MD is better than the old one. Of course TM is a car nut, but he builds what he wants, and NOT what the rakyat wants.

Syed Zainal is more keen to save the company for going further down into the slump.

Taiwan market ke? ooh..that’s good news. Lets see how the fellow Chinese there accept the car. Their “brothers” here hate it so much.

Lets sit down and wait for the SRM. JPJ has given the greenlight to launch the car (it has passed the Type Approval test). It will be Syed Zainal’s first car…though of course he came in too late to do any drastic change to the SRM.

Aren’t you all feel that Savvy’s rear look is similar to WAJA front look. (Savvy)The P1 logo & the triangle curve at middle make it really look like front of the car.