Comments on: Dongfeng Peugeot Citroen recalls vehicles

By: Fairman

Fairman — Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:46:35 +0000

The difference is , China automotive make low quality car in a improving stage and with reasonable price, so affordable for majority china people.
But, P1 make low quality car and sold to rakyat with expensive price. they never think about how to improve, sad and shame……

By: sAgaLuve

sAgaLuve — Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:48:50 +0000

just my “dua sen” here

Although I won’t buy a China-made car now, I don’t see why not in another 5-7 years. I’m sure by that time, the quality would have improved by leaps and bounds. Remember the case with Hyundai where it was condemned as a also ran with horrendous quality-related issues in the 1990s. Well, they bucked up and they were tied with Honda for 2nd place in the 2004 JD Power & Associated ranking for Initial Quality (See below)

2004 Corporate IQS (Initial Quality Score) Ranking
Problems per 100 Vehicles (Lower Score indicate higher quality)
1. Toyota (101)
2. Honda & Hyundai (102)
3 BMW of USA (116)
Industry Average is 119

The thing with the Koreans & Japanese carmakers are that they are fighting in a large market where there are no “artificial market distortion forces” like in Malaysia so you compete based on your quality, model-mix & brand. Meritocracy is king.

The car market in China is very open with each automobile maker fighting tooth and nail to gain traction and on their competitors – pure simple unadulterated brawl for all. And with China’s vast 1.3- billion-people markets the car makers there have the advantages of developing economy of scale and this conditions them for global competition, just like many dominating companies of the US that grew up in their 200+ million people market and then join the global market.

Real competitions weed out the weak and rewards the strong and innovative ones with the resulting net benefits to us consumers and to the government in form of taxes. However, our “beloved” government still believes in P1 coz it is the blue-eyed boy of the old man “M”.

well, that is my lengthy 2cents…… thx for your audience.

By: triplesaber

triplesaber — Wed, 19 Apr 2006 03:04:09 +0000

Maybe Malaysians have grown accustomed at experiencing bad quality cars, we just tend to ingore, or too penat to complain, too much to complain..

Btw, I dont know the meaning behind ‘Fukang’ but personally, i dont think itsa good branding name. I dunno, it just sounds.. offensive.. hehe.

By: motorhead

motorhead — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:57:12 +0000

See.. no car is perfect.. but they ve proved to be responsible. all gen2 should be recalled.. why dont they??..Ermmm.. why aaa..??.. wonder…. Oooo.. this is bolehland.. everything is possible… P1 may say something like this.. “Suka hati aku la nak recall ke tak!!!”..

hahaha… poor those P1 owner.. why nobody want to sue them….KPDN should look into this matter….They should protect the consumer….

By: sighonroad

sighonroad — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:21:16 +0000

ok, I am just contact DPCA ( the joint venture) this afternoon, yeah it’s real recall action. The generator is produced in China, but also a joint venture.

By: HatukNgkau

HatukNgkau — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:14:18 +0000

if proton do recall just for its power windows problem, jangan harap offered to do it for free, even at half price also would make proton go bankrupt!

By: cyborgx

cyborgx — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:53:41 +0000

as expected.. china automotive industry will be one step ahead of proton.

By: Tracks

Tracks — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:47:17 +0000

If the alternator or any other parts(i.e. harness, brakes & etc) that relates to the safe operation of the vehicle are faulty, car manufacturers would normally recalled it. Power window & door handles sadly is considered a convenience item and therefore no recall would be initiated.

By the way, an Alternator is a device that converts mechanical(kinetic) energy to electrical energy in the form of Alternating Current (ac). Hence its name “Alternator”. In the old days, Conversion of ac to dc (Direct Current) was perform externally. Nowadays, all new alternators convert the ac to dc internally therefore the output is dc current. The name has actually been changed to “Generator” but people are so used to the old name that nobody bother with its new name. Currently the latest trend is combining the alternator with the starter motor, thus saving cost and weight. But I don’t know what it is called.

By: usmat

usmat — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:30:21 +0000

china product is suck….i just got usb flash 8gb from friend who just return from china…first time…can use…but second time…it gone…qc still under international level….include car

By: outspoken

outspoken — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:49:03 +0000

This is an outrage! How come they get away from this?! bash them.. oohhh.. wait a minute.. you’re talking about pegouet, a european manufacturer… emmm well, people make mistake, lets just forgive them…

good ol’ malaysian attitude.. when it’s orang putih, its always PURE..

By: Ricc

Ricc — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:35:10 +0000

Wutever posted here, sure related to Proton.. :p
But I do agree, if the G exercise such recall regulations, P will have to recall all car they’ve ever made…

By: REDDEVIL

REDDEVIL — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:29:01 +0000

Yes, government should implement or impose recall regulations into our car industry for the consumers’ best interest.. then P will take QC seriously.

By: Joe Ooi

Joe Ooi — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:40:50 +0000

If recalls regulations implemented in Malaysia, I think P1 have alot to do, just mentioned power window! how many have to recall.

Anyway, Paul do you have any details on the content of this regulations for us to have better understanding.

By: Joe Ooi

Joe Ooi — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:38:36 +0000

yukkie – do you mean “secret”. If that is the case, what is it to do with recalls vehicles?

By: yukkie

yukkie — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:33:32 +0000

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