Comments on: Proton might enter SUV and MPV market http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:18:04 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: fauzi http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-211576 fauzi Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:13:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-211576 test drive nanti i komen.wait je la.so far ok test drive nanti i komen.wait je la.so far ok

]]> By: kopial http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-88396 kopial Wed, 23 May 2007 18:30:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-88396 In 1996, UTM's (universiti teknologi malaysia) project team submitted a new concept for asian countries to Proton (That time no manufacturer has come to such a concept). When proton looked at the idea, this was their comment: "if buyers want a car, they get a car lah...if they want a van just get a van", and shoved the projects' idea badly. Bitterly wounded, the project members abandoned their project. About 3 years later, Toyota introduced the world's first MPV for asian market. It shocked the world...and it was their cash cows. You see, Toyota and UTM understood the culture in asia, we tend to have more than 3 children...and we need more room in one car, but we don't need the lifting power of a van. Today, we can only gaze at Japanese MPVs filling up our roads, and now proton realise their mistake. We could have conquered asia if we open up our minds to things yet unseen, radical concepts we may say...but if we remain conservative...we will never move ahead. Lets be humble, take away our prides...listen to the people around us, learn from our past mistakes. At that time, UTM was nobody...but, sometimes God uses nobody to shake somebody. In 1996, UTM’s (universiti teknologi malaysia) project team submitted a new concept for asian countries to Proton (That time no manufacturer has come to such a concept). When proton looked at the idea, this was their comment: “if buyers want a car, they get a car lah…if they want a van just get a van”, and shoved the projects’ idea badly. Bitterly wounded, the project members abandoned their project.

About 3 years later, Toyota introduced the world’s first MPV for asian market. It shocked the world…and it was their cash cows. You see, Toyota and UTM understood the culture in asia, we tend to have more than 3 children…and we need more room in one car, but we don’t need the lifting power of a van.

Today, we can only gaze at Japanese MPVs filling up our roads, and now proton realise their mistake. We could have conquered asia if we open up our minds to things yet unseen, radical concepts we may say…but if we remain conservative…we will never move ahead.

Lets be humble, take away our prides…listen to the people around us, learn from our past mistakes. At that time, UTM was nobody…but, sometimes God uses nobody to shake somebody.

]]> By: The Automotive Industry, first half of 2006 http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-45316 The Automotive Industry, first half of 2006 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:21:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-45316 [...] Proton also says a new model is in the line-ups to be introduced next year, although the model is still in discussion stages. No details have been revealed except that it is not an SUV model. From discussion to introduction in about the time span of a year? Datuk Kamarulzaman also says Proton cannot reveal any details yet before gaining approval from partners, so this should be a joint-venture for an MPV or a large executive car considering the mention of partners and a fast time to market. [...] [...] Proton also says a new model is in the line-ups to be introduced next year, although the model is still in discussion stages. No details have been revealed except that it is not an SUV model. From discussion to introduction in about the time span of a year? Datuk Kamarulzaman also says Proton cannot reveal any details yet before gaining approval from partners, so this should be a joint-venture for an MPV or a large executive car considering the mention of partners and a fast time to market. [...]

]]> By: Proton back in black; partnership with PSA Peugoet Citroen » http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-40030 Proton back in black; partnership with PSA Peugoet Citroen » Wed, 31 May 2006 17:20:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-40030 [...] Proton’s MD Syed Zainal Abidin said the passenger car market sales dropped 9% in the Q4 period, but interestingly the SUV and MPV market grew 16% during that same period. This is probably why Proton wants to have a piece of that market as well. Syed Zainal said Proton would face a tough time ahead, with intense competition in domestic and export markets putting pressure on Proton’s sales and profitability. Higher oil price, electricity tariff, hardening of interest rate, tighter credit control and a decreased rakyat purchasing power are also negative factors. [...] [...] Proton’s MD Syed Zainal Abidin said the passenger car market sales dropped 9% in the Q4 period, but interestingly the SUV and MPV market grew 16% during that same period. This is probably why Proton wants to have a piece of that market as well. Syed Zainal said Proton would face a tough time ahead, with intense competition in domestic and export markets putting pressure on Proton’s sales and profitability. Higher oil price, electricity tariff, hardening of interest rate, tighter credit control and a decreased rakyat purchasing power are also negative factors. [...]

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39712 topgunthang Fri, 26 May 2006 08:59:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39712 rexis....even you also feel embarassed when u see it. the designers of the car should be feelin 100 times more embarrased.... been making failures since the gen2 up to the ultimate flop the savvy and still want to enter new markets that they have absolutely no experience in....except for rebadging.... rexis….even you also feel embarassed when u see it.
the designers of the car should be feelin 100 times more embarrased….

been making failures since the gen2 up to the ultimate flop the savvy and still want to enter new markets that they have absolutely no experience in….except for rebadging….

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39701 rexis Fri, 26 May 2006 06:45:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39701 Well, JC just trying to make his show entertaining. OMG, i was a bit embarassed thou when I see the Savvy... Well, JC just trying to make his show entertaining.

OMG, i was a bit embarassed thou when I see the Savvy…

]]> By: jtshin http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39678 jtshin Fri, 26 May 2006 02:36:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39678 Hey guys... check-out the following links the first one is the waja crash test... hehe... in case u ppl havent seen it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK57GHRcclI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNBpJOaE__A The second one is about Savvy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7JITRVRDPE Gen-2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkm03SFMeFA Perodua Kenari http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSAfZs23kyg Well... This's wat the british say bout Proton & Perodua cars... hmmm... sad? shame? wonder if the Proton ppl ever saw these videos.... Hey guys… check-out the following links the first one is the waja crash test… hehe… in case u ppl havent seen it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK57GHRcclI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNBpJOaE__A

The second one is about Savvy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7JITRVRDPE

Gen-2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkm03SFMeFA

Perodua Kenari
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSAfZs23kyg

Well… This’s wat the british say bout Proton & Perodua cars… hmmm… sad? shame? wonder if the Proton ppl ever saw these videos….

]]> By: afhstingray http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39639 afhstingray Thu, 25 May 2006 15:02:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39639 oh btw i wasnt suggesting they manufacture the apx as it is. use the chassis, and certain components, they dont have to use the same body etc like the audi TT, volkswagen golf, skoda (cant rememer which model), and seat (dunno model) all use the volkswagen golf chassis. oh btw i wasnt suggesting they manufacture the apx as it is. use the chassis, and certain components, they dont have to use the same body etc

like the audi TT, volkswagen golf, skoda (cant rememer which model), and seat (dunno model) all use the volkswagen golf chassis.

]]> By: afhstingray http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39635 afhstingray Thu, 25 May 2006 15:00:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39635 True about the APX,however selling overseas under the lotus badge but locally under the proton badge is not a bad idea. similar to vauxhall/opel chancellor was never meant to be a perdana replacement. in fact i dont have a clue why that thing even made it to market other than to prove that the waja platform is flexible enough to accomodate a v6 and long wheelbase. perhaps the r&d costs of designing a new perdana body based on the waja platform is not worth the money? i dont know. what i do know is the waja platform,apart from being locally designed (mostly) is able to accomodate higher powered engines and the extended wheelbase, as demonstrated by the chancellor. True about the APX,however selling overseas under the lotus badge but locally under the proton badge is not a bad idea. similar to vauxhall/opel
chancellor was never meant to be a perdana replacement. in fact i dont have a clue why that thing even made it to market other than to prove that the waja platform is flexible enough to accomodate a v6 and long wheelbase.

perhaps the r&d costs of designing a new perdana body based on the waja platform is not worth the money? i dont know. what i do know is the waja platform,apart from being locally designed (mostly) is able to accomodate higher powered engines and the extended wheelbase, as demonstrated by the chancellor.

]]> By: RCM http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39630 RCM Thu, 25 May 2006 13:53:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39630 Lets talk more on cars, SUVs, MPVs etc.. here, but before that:.... " fookeatmin1989 said, May 25, 2006 @ 7:38 pm not only MAS and Proton……All Goverment Linked Company(GLC) is like that… another one..TNB increse tarrif….. Man..those GLC are really oppressing us…" The real culprits are the biznesmen with good relationship with the powerful politicians. The GLC are gold mines for them (Tenders, contracts). They can shape the rules to suit them...TNB will not suffer as today if they are no IPPs. IPPs will not exist if not for those greedy people with political power dont force TNB to accept the unfair power purchace agreement..TNB have to accept because; well it is a GLC..The politicians have to agree with the biznesmen as they also has some interest in the Energy bisnes...In the end, TNB cant afford as much staff as before...More people will be unemployed..Taariff has to increase...It is alwaz the ordinary, majority people who have to suffer... Lets talk more on cars, SUVs, MPVs etc.. here, but before that:….
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fookeatmin1989 said,
May 25, 2006 @ 7:38 pm

not only MAS and Proton……All Goverment Linked Company(GLC) is like that…
another one..TNB increse tarrif…..
Man..those GLC are really oppressing us…”

The real culprits are the biznesmen with good relationship with the powerful politicians. The GLC are gold mines for them (Tenders, contracts). They can shape the rules to suit them…TNB will not suffer as today if they are no IPPs. IPPs will not exist if not for those greedy people with political power dont force TNB to accept the unfair power purchace agreement..TNB have to accept because; well it is a GLC..The politicians have to agree with the biznesmen as they also has some interest in the Energy bisnes…In the end, TNB cant afford as much staff as before…More people will be unemployed..Taariff has to increase…It is alwaz the ordinary, majority people who have to suffer…

]]> By: jtshin http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39620 jtshin Thu, 25 May 2006 12:59:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39620 Haha... I'm Sarawakian... well... Bn ppl... only know talk talk talk... when they implement something or build something... for their own pocket nia... nv care ppl's feelings... they think like this good like that good... but the public nv think its good... if tell them.. they'll say this n that... my town here... drains clogged... roads damn lousy... rally class roads damn it... cars with low springs n fibers can't use here... at my place, many ppl's car low fiber are damaged n have to repair always... wat happen to the road? Well, cars hv to use sport springs to prevent the car being bumped to the floor... complaints will only take noticed by them when election come... if ppl wan something else.. please contact those ppl before election... they'll give 110% to u... haha... this's my place... u tell them this morning... afternoon they'll send ppl to fix it... all the losing seats this time are chinese areas... hope other ethnics will wake up on wat BN did to them n not only by getting few hundred bucks if BN wins... they buy votes le... n some ppl only look at the $ to vote them... n throw their next 5 yrs into pityness... hmmm... Haha… I’m Sarawakian… well… Bn ppl… only know talk talk talk… when they implement something or build something… for their own pocket nia… nv care ppl’s feelings… they think like this good like that good… but the public nv think its good… if tell them.. they’ll say this n that… my town here… drains clogged… roads damn lousy… rally class roads damn it… cars with low springs n fibers can’t use here… at my place, many ppl’s car low fiber are damaged n have to repair always… wat happen to the road? Well, cars hv to use sport springs to prevent the car being bumped to the floor… complaints will only take noticed by them when election come… if ppl wan something else.. please contact those ppl before election… they’ll give 110% to u… haha… this’s my place… u tell them this morning… afternoon they’ll send ppl to fix it… all the losing seats this time are chinese areas… hope other ethnics will wake up on wat BN did to them n not only by getting few hundred bucks if BN wins… they buy votes le… n some ppl only look at the $ to vote them… n throw their next 5 yrs into pityness… hmmm…

]]> By: fookeatmin1989 http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39610 fookeatmin1989 Thu, 25 May 2006 11:38:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39610 not only MAS and Proton......All Goverment Linked Company(GLC) is like that... another one..TNB increse tarrif..... Man..those GLC are really oppressing us... BN..gave them too much MAJORITY and they treat us like that...it doesn't worth it.....They'll will lose vote like what's happening in Sarawak during next election.... not only MAS and Proton……All Goverment Linked Company(GLC) is like that…
another one..TNB increse tarrif…..
Man..those GLC are really oppressing us…
BN..gave them too much MAJORITY and they treat us like that…it doesn’t worth it…..They’ll will lose vote like what’s happening in Sarawak during next election….

]]> By: jtshin http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39602 jtshin Thu, 25 May 2006 10:50:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39602 Well, not voting BN if G-man continue support Proton? hehe... will others think like that? If ppl think like that, so early BN eat grass already... still until now eat all rakyat's money? hmmm... BN G-ment nv fair to rakyat... see for urself... only eat $ from rakyat to 'rescue' Proton n MAS while all the datuk inside eat all the $... right? hmmm... Proton only know how to sit there like baby n cry for money then its 'parent' will come n feed. even though got news said tat g-ment will let Proton walk by itself but till now our 'honourable' Najib(Najis) said g-ment won't let Proton die... n will provide watever they need to compete in the car market... Speaking of Chancellor... damn stupid model... I wonder how many units had been sold... Rm16k... I rather get a Camry with full spec with GOA Body airbags n damn lots electronics... if want those sound systems... bikin la sendiri... want how much oso can... Chancellor wth no airbags... I wonder wat ppl think... when this model out... I laugh at it... over price with damn cheap specs... the V6 engine already out dated... no crash test, no GOA body... duh... how can convince ppl buy? I don't think those proton head ppl will buy it also... they all drive imported cars... where got see them drive proton... cheh... dunno build for who... maybe those who're stupid would buy chancellor... unless someone give as a gift then maybe consider... who doesn't want free car rite? Well, not voting BN if G-man continue support Proton? hehe… will others think like that? If ppl think like that, so early BN eat grass already… still until now eat all rakyat’s money? hmmm… BN G-ment nv fair to rakyat… see for urself… only eat $ from rakyat to ‘rescue’ Proton n MAS while all the datuk inside eat all the $… right? hmmm… Proton only know how to sit there like baby n cry for money then its ‘parent’ will come n feed. even though got news said tat g-ment will let Proton walk by itself but till now our ‘honourable’ Najib(Najis) said g-ment won’t let Proton die… n will provide watever they need to compete in the car market…
Speaking of Chancellor… damn stupid model… I wonder how many units had been sold… Rm16k… I rather get a Camry with full spec with GOA Body airbags n damn lots electronics… if want those sound systems… bikin la sendiri… want how much oso can… Chancellor wth no airbags… I wonder wat ppl think… when this model out… I laugh at it… over price with damn cheap specs… the V6 engine already out dated… no crash test, no GOA body… duh… how can convince ppl buy? I don’t think those proton head ppl will buy it also… they all drive imported cars… where got see them drive proton… cheh… dunno build for who… maybe those who’re stupid would buy chancellor… unless someone give as a gift then maybe consider… who doesn’t want free car rite?

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39597 topgunthang Thu, 25 May 2006 09:48:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39597 i have a feeling they are doing this to fill in all the gaps. like they mentioned b4. other car companies who compete directly with p1 (similar cars as in SUV MPV) will be slapped with increased tax or they cant import it to msia for sale or something. once they cover every engine cap and car type, then nobody else can import cars to sell at a competitive price (compared to proton). That seems to be thier very intention in my view. so all msians are still gonna get forced into buying proton many years down the track. the report i can remember vaguely but its related to japanese companies wanting to import certain cars into msia but proton/government said they cannot import competing products, so they can either import SUV's or higher capacity engine cars that do not compete with p1 directly. like someone said. its bad they cant even succeed at normal passenger or budget cars. but now they trying to get into unknown territory where few car companies succeed. they also have the best timing. price hike in petrol and they want to sell big cars. the savvy experience has taught them nothing. i have a feeling they are doing this to fill in all the gaps. like they mentioned b4. other car companies who compete directly with p1 (similar cars as in SUV MPV) will be slapped with increased tax or they cant import it to msia for sale or something. once they cover every engine cap and car type, then nobody else can import cars to sell at a competitive price (compared to proton). That seems to be thier very intention in my view. so all msians are still gonna get forced into buying proton many years down the track. the report i can remember vaguely but its related to japanese companies wanting to import certain cars into msia but proton/government said they cannot import competing products, so they can either import SUV’s or higher capacity engine cars that do not compete with p1 directly.

like someone said. its bad they cant even succeed at normal passenger or budget cars. but now they trying to get into unknown territory where few car companies succeed. they also have the best timing. price hike in petrol and they want to sell big cars. the savvy experience has taught them nothing.

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39596 Joe Ooi Thu, 25 May 2006 09:38:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39596 Abu - what P1 talking is not limited to what you say. Their talking is the Directors all want to show to share holder and G that they are doing something mah, also scare pak lah ask them to leave if GLC like P1 can't perform. What to do, this is typical commercial director (they are also salary man want to earn a living) office politic behavior. But their talk cock ocst us tax payer moeny lol...... very painful. Another one is they need to talk cock in the media so that they talk for the sake of talking in order to ensure P1 is not out of media "radar screen". Also, they talk talk here and talk talk there, oh P1 got to boost it share price in the market oso mah. If u buy P1 share (not advisible), this news may help mah ....... what to do? Sure "mo gao chor" one eh ...... Abu – what P1 talking is not limited to what you say. Their talking is the Directors all want to show to share holder and G that they are doing something mah, also scare pak lah ask them to leave if GLC like P1 can’t perform. What to do, this is typical commercial director (they are also salary man want to earn a living) office politic behavior. But their talk cock ocst us tax payer moeny lol…… very painful.

Another one is they need to talk cock in the media so that they talk for the sake of talking in order to ensure P1 is not out of media “radar screen”. Also, they talk talk here and talk talk there, oh P1 got to boost it share price in the market oso mah. If u buy P1 share (not advisible), this news may help mah ……. what to do?

Sure “mo gao chor” one eh ……

]]> By: Abu http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39594 Abu Thu, 25 May 2006 09:09:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39594 goingberserk...i dont really agree with what you said. P1 wont be NATA or NATO. believe me...they will really action to it mate. Later they will announce an investment of few millions or billions into 'researching' the new models for the upcoming SUV and MPV or watsever la....but later silence completely about the result, spending of the research. Thats wat P1 GOOD AT!!!!!! another BLOOD SUCKING opportunities...you think they will let go of it????? F*** la!!! Later When this thing failed again, its going to be water hike, parking fee hike, pedestrian hike, bah kut teh hike, nasi lemak hike or watever hike they can think of to SUCK you DRY my man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yao Mou Gao........CHOR!!! goingberserk…i dont really agree with what you said. P1 wont be NATA or NATO. believe me…they will really action to it mate. Later they will announce an investment of few millions or billions into ‘researching’ the new models for the upcoming SUV and MPV or watsever la….but later silence completely about the result, spending of the research. Thats wat P1 GOOD AT!!!!!! another BLOOD SUCKING opportunities…you think they will let go of it????? F*** la!!!

Later When this thing failed again, its going to be water hike, parking fee hike, pedestrian hike, bah kut teh hike, nasi lemak hike or watever hike they can think of to SUCK you DRY my man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yao Mou Gao……..CHOR!!!

]]> By: fookeatmin1989 http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39579 fookeatmin1989 Thu, 25 May 2006 06:47:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39579 If The G continue to support Proton...I think we shouldn't vote for BN on Next ELECTION....... If The G continue to support Proton…I think we shouldn’t vote for BN on Next ELECTION…….

]]> By: outspoken http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39578 outspoken Thu, 25 May 2006 06:47:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39578 Going into niche market is very risky considering the fact that Proton is still struggling on core sales. It is better if they concentrate on passenger cars (saloon or hatch back).. anyway, good luck Going into niche market is very risky considering the fact that Proton is still struggling on core sales. It is better if they concentrate on passenger cars (saloon or hatch back).. anyway, good luck

]]> By: fookeatmin1989 http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39576 fookeatmin1989 Thu, 25 May 2006 06:43:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39576 Toto,Magnum 4D or Da Ma Cai 4D should let people bet the year when Proton will close......like 2009,2010 etc. Proton's future is really dark.....no light at the end of the tunnel. Now,the petrol price is damn expensive...they're talking about SUV....I wonder how they really make business....Close 1 eye or 2 eye??? Toto,Magnum 4D or Da Ma Cai 4D should let people bet the year when Proton will close……like 2009,2010 etc.
Proton’s future is really dark…..no light at the end of the tunnel.
Now,the petrol price is damn expensive…they’re talking about SUV….I wonder how they really make business….Close 1 eye or 2 eye???

]]> By: Abu http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39572 Abu Thu, 25 May 2006 05:46:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39572 Other car manu's definition for SUV and MPV: Sport Utility Vehicles Multipurpose Vehicles Potong's definition for SUV and MPV: SUx Vehicle Murah Punya Vehicle :p See Fu: Yao Mou Kao......Chou!!!!! Other car manu’s definition for SUV and MPV:

Sport Utility Vehicles
Multipurpose Vehicles

Potong’s definition for SUV and MPV:

SUx Vehicle
Murah Punya Vehicle

:p See Fu: Yao Mou Kao……Chou!!!!!

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39571 Joe Ooi Thu, 25 May 2006 05:37:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39571 TownBox is design by Mits as city mini commercial vehicle, but in our Bolehland, P1 introduce it as mini MPV, WTF. TownBox is design by Mits as city mini commercial vehicle, but in our Bolehland, P1 introduce it as mini MPV, WTF.

]]> By: raptorclans http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39556 raptorclans Thu, 25 May 2006 02:43:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39556 yeah tracks, agree wif u on d seating arrangement... proton shud hav opted for the TownBox Wide with bench version... some of our club members have imported those... :) but yeah, being a compact k-class vehicle, u can't really get the best comfort. but handling's good they shud produce a mid range sedan priced appropriately... the chancellor's price is overkill... and it's not that big either... yeah tracks, agree wif u on d seating arrangement… proton shud hav opted for the TownBox Wide with bench version… some of our club members have imported those… :) but yeah, being a compact k-class vehicle, u can’t really get the best comfort. but handling’s good

they shud produce a mid range sedan priced appropriately… the chancellor’s price is overkill… and it’s not that big either…

]]> By: whodz http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39551 whodz Thu, 25 May 2006 01:39:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39551 If in the case MPV or SUV, surely it will look like Colt or Outlander. No doubt. If in the case MPV or SUV, surely it will look like Colt or Outlander. No doubt.

]]> By: Tracks http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39548 Tracks Thu, 25 May 2006 01:28:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39548 Raptorclan & mystvearn, you are both correct that Juara is good in terms of practicality and space. Design wise no need to comment oredi as so much had been said. However, the rear most seat are useless except for kids. Suzuki ERV might be a better option at that time versus the Juara as it offers drivers airbag, sunroof, 1.3L SOHC 16V engine, acceptable 7-seaters and best of all surround air-cond. Ofcourse the main problem with the ERV is it bad ride due to its hard suspension but wonderful for spirited drive unlike Avanza which rolls considerably into hard corner and offers boat ride feeling over uneven roads. Afhstingray, the APX was given back to Lotus together with the M250 (sport car) as the Proton management felt that Lotus has a stronger brand image than our Proton. As for the suggestion that the Perdana replacement model should be based on the Waja chassis, Proton already has an over-priced & under-spec car called Chancellor 2.0V6. RM140k with no airbags but has ABS, an expensive ICE system from Clarion, rear air-cond vent and lots of legroom. At RM140k, they should have included 4 air-bags as standard and do away with the expensive ICE system instead to lower the price. Raptorclan & mystvearn, you are both correct that Juara is good in terms of practicality and space. Design wise no need to comment oredi as so much had been said. However, the rear most seat are useless except for kids. Suzuki ERV might be a better option at that time versus the Juara as it offers drivers airbag, sunroof, 1.3L SOHC 16V engine, acceptable 7-seaters and best of all surround air-cond. Ofcourse the main problem with the ERV is it bad ride due to its hard suspension but wonderful for spirited drive unlike Avanza which rolls considerably into hard corner and offers boat ride feeling over uneven roads.

Afhstingray, the APX was given back to Lotus together with the M250 (sport car) as the Proton management felt that Lotus has a stronger brand image than our Proton. As for the suggestion that the Perdana replacement model should be based on the Waja chassis, Proton already has an over-priced & under-spec car called Chancellor 2.0V6. RM140k with no airbags but has ABS, an expensive ICE system from Clarion, rear air-cond vent and lots of legroom. At RM140k, they should have included 4 air-bags as standard and do away with the expensive ICE system instead to lower the price.

]]> By: sheridansulik http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39545 sheridansulik Thu, 25 May 2006 01:19:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39545 its about time PROTON entering this market segment!!....ever considering 4x4 Mr Proton? its about time PROTON entering this market segment!!….ever considering 4×4 Mr Proton?

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39537 rexis Thu, 25 May 2006 01:01:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39537 Still deciding want to enter SUV and MPV market or not ahhh? Everybody is eating the big huge delicious pie now and you still deciding want to eat or not. Still deciding want to enter SUV and MPV market or not ahhh? Everybody is eating the big huge delicious pie now and you still deciding want to eat or not.

]]> By: tanasi http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39535 tanasi Thu, 25 May 2006 00:59:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39535 APX is damn expensive. All alum, with rivet and bonding technology - Malaysians are not ready for a RM160,000 ++ sports SUV. Sports, because of its big engine and cramped compartment. APX is damn expensive. All alum, with rivet and bonding technology – Malaysians are not ready for a RM160,000 ++ sports SUV. Sports, because of its big engine and cramped compartment.

]]> By: jawa5281 http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39530 jawa5281 Thu, 25 May 2006 00:22:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39530 hi guys... very new here... what i fear is that the G will exercise similar feat as to what they have done to save TNB... P1 is now the the umbrella of NAP, I think they won't let P1 die and they wil do anyhting in their power to ensure that... even at the cost of rakyat's money... so not supporting P1 may affect us all in the end... hi guys… very new here… what i fear is that the G will exercise similar feat as to what they have done to save TNB… P1 is now the the umbrella of NAP, I think they won’t let P1 die and they wil do anyhting in their power to ensure that… even at the cost of rakyat’s money… so not supporting P1 may affect us all in the end…

]]> By: johan artistry http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39528 johan artistry Wed, 24 May 2006 19:17:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39528 paul are you a bimmer Fan. i am. they won best engine again. and the 7 speed automated gearbox is lightning fast. it just take a split of 100th second to move up and down. paul are you a bimmer Fan. i am. they won best engine again. and the 7 speed automated gearbox is lightning fast. it just take a split of 100th second to move up and down.

]]> By: johan artistry http://paultan.org/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39527 johan artistry Wed, 24 May 2006 19:15:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/05/24/proton-might-enter-suv-and-mpv-market/#comment-39527 hey folks look at this monster in rabbit clothing. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6655205935162834364&q=h50 this a E90 330i.. the throw out the six str8 and embedded a V10 507 Hp in it. Video says thousand words. See it for yourself... hey folks look at this monster in rabbit clothing.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6655205935162834364&q=h50
this a E90 330i.. the throw out the six str8 and embedded a V10 507 Hp in it. Video says thousand words. See it for yourself…

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