okie.. let be friends… peace to you…

regards…

actually omni, i dont fully agree on this point. you should try telling the foreign wires this, especially their treatment of news from asian countries, including corporate news. local journos are of course more careful.

motorhead: im not the one being confrontational dude, you are. and i never told you to leave and live somewhere else. i said you have the option. i’m not looking for a fight.

I observe only report on sport, entertaintment, community (Star Metro section) reflect more accurately on fact.

Anyway, just my opinion, “no retaliation”, cheers ,……..

Sorry out of topic, lol

what our discussion is abt press release from corporation. not politics or spin doctoring. read the lines… do knw the diferrence between press release and news?

in the world of journalism, you may play both side. but when come to corporate news release, no journalist would dare to fool unless you wan to get into trouble.

They are professional, of course is true to a certain extent. But when come to commercial interest, it can become “dirty” no matter what is your professional field (with exception to those who are truely professional).

But I personally the best and most accurate news is non other than come from weblog like this one, ha, ha, ha, …….. You see how true is true what mainstream media write about NAP/P1? Ask yourself? How many news establishment is credible and report balanced news? So the best thing is utilize internet tech to read online news from all side! See-see and look-look to find out the truth.

dear m8, journalists are professional too. they have self regulations and associations. if you are saying it can also go the other way, i guess the journalist would love his/her job to be tarnished. such case of spin doctoring are very minimal maybe once in a blue moon for corporate press releases. but if you talking about face to face interview or featured stories, then it may happen but then they company has every right to scan the story before publishing because the company and media have responsibility to protect relations and public image as well as avoid litigation.

Count or not, I don’t mind.. dumb or not up to you, it’s your poblem, I don’t decide.. Same like u told me to migrate, just bcoz I dissatified with the current gov.. not fair oso… you decide me to leave?.. no right?

Btw.. i give & take, nothing personal.. we all frens lah, kdg2 gadoh jugak.. i guess most of us here have 1 goal, wish to own better cars…& i wish the scenario can change, so one day UMW toyota can start manufacturing cars, so as the other car manufacturers…

me? what do i know. i’m dumb.

“Moral hazard” is an insurance term to describe “an act of manipulation or deliberation in order to gain benefits from or make monetary gain on risks which suppose to be covered under insurance”.

FICTION ah – Say for example, “motorhead is car dealer, honda_driver is selling car insurance and Joe Ooi is car buyer. Joe Ooi purchased Honda Accord 2.0L from motorhead at RM 135K. So he bought car insurance from Honda_driver equivalent to RM 130K for coverage such as total loss as a result of thief”.

“Without the knowledge of honda_driver, Joe Ooi pakat with Ah Beng, and he “stole” Joe Ooi’s Honda Accord and export illegally to Thailand to become kereta potong or sold as 2nd car overthere. At the end, Ah Beng give RM 80K to Joe Ooi. But Joe Ooi make police report and pakat with another Ah Seng (adjuster) to come out with proper documentation and claim which fulfill all legal and contractual requirement, at the end Joe Ooi get insurance claim of RM 105K (approx. 80%) from honda_driver as “officially” total loss as a result of thief. So Joe Ooi can get total RM 185K (80K given by Ah Beng + 105K insurance claim) or make RM 50K from this “endeavor”.

This kind of action is categorically term as “moral hazard”. Same with “BN freak DNA”, implement project in the name of “pembangunan” but behind it got “Mr. Commission”, “Mark up budget with certain % to be apportion into personal pocket”, etc, etc. All this is morally unacceptable or “moral hazard”.
So, thing is very clear, many of us is unhappy with these, not our beloved country.

Joe Ooi – OK let me define “BN freak DNA”, I refer to those included but not necessary limited to corrupted, play money politics, untrustworthy person(s) from BN who are in the current G, or those biz-men or other figure with close connection with certain G institution/ministry/department for certain “formal or informal” activities but behind it have dubious biz connection like AP King, crocs, or politicians become CEO/Director of GLC and the like which implement project(s) or doing biz which inflicted “moral hazard” to the rakyat.

Let me get your perspective straight to the point. We are happy living in this country and never in our mind to consider to migrate to other country. But what make us unhappy is the above “BN freak DNA”. The point here is we are rakyat, and G have social responsibility to look after rakyat welfare, now they implement this kind of “moral hazard” project(s) to breed big and fat crocs including the unique species of King which can be find in Bolehland only – AP King. Even AP King is illegal under WTO rules. This so call “BN freak DNA” that should be dismantle or expunge just like cancell JB “crook bridge” if they listen to rakyat. So, the point is “BN freak DNA” make rakyat unhappy, then G have the social responsibility to remove it. Not tell rakyat if you are unhappy with this (”then equate with unhappy with country”) policy, then migrate to other country? So I know you even me as well see nothing wrong with this country but I hope you can see something very wrong with the “BN freak DNA”.

Cheers to you ……….

If you want to just sit around, be a dumb and say everything is fine is your problem!!.. you punya hal lah… Yes, all of us lucky.. but ARE WE HAPPY?? Well, please ask that to those who vote for opposition in recent Sarawak election, ask that to opposition leaders, ask the demonstrators who beaten up by police every Sunday at KLCC, ask Dato’ Shahrir, ask Kit Siang to leave the country oso, ask Nik Aziz, ask auto investors which have lost so much money, ask those who cannot afford to buy their dream cars, ask those faulty proton cars owners, even ask Tun Mahathir is he happy and ask him to leave the country also…. please save this question also for the next election and see yourself if the people are happy..

And watch out!!, becoz I will see if you will have any complain relate with the gov in the future.. & let you eat your own words!!!

btw motorhead, i’ve worked in bangkok for before. so i know thailand pretty well.

òmnícp: i agree with what you’ve said. I guess it also depends on the facts of the whole matter. I admit I jumped the gun with my remarks on journalists. if indeed the journalist did get all the proper info, and based his facts on that, he did no wrong. But it can also go the other way.

Just because we have generally good press freedom, and freedom of speech, does not mean we can abuse it. We are all responsible for what we say.
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honda driver,

the journalists did not even spin the story for toyota case and this does not apply violation of press freedom or freedom of speech. please get this straight. if it is a violation, i’m sure toyota will sue them for negligence.

journalists have datelines too. they don’t go check everything from head to toe because your company issue the press conference. it is the responsibility of the company to get the facts right before any press release and monitor it before/after released. that is why we have press kits and extra materials for journalist to follow up.if your company can’t do it, get a PR person to do it.

if you live in the west, they even throw your press release away if you give them crap. furthermore, your company is blacklisted by the editor. there goes your free publicity and relationship with the media.

so my advice to all malaysians, don’t point finger at someone when things get awry. the world is round. look at the matters at hand and get it solved within yourself. blaming others is not a way to resolve your mistake. is it pointing fingers is the culture at home?

but at least i knew that most of reader here are in the same league with me, we felt we’re being victimised by G

don’t blame rural people because they drive potong, that’s the cheapest available car they can afford — all of this due to G car price policy.

you’re blaming kampung people because you’re fortunate enough to had foreign made cars, you should be thankfull to god, don’t you think that kampung people also needed a car?

blaming on kampung people who buy potong is the most un-reasonble ideas i ever heard.

-FOO
THE ONE DRIVING PROTON IN KAMPONG
ARE THE INDO HAWKERS,
WHO MASUK BOLEHLAND SUKA SUKA-

- these kampong folks
(never awake)
drive naza-motorbike,
in 3 persons,
UNDER HOT SUNS TO KL TRIP,
kid squeeze in middle to sekolah,
wife at back to penjabat office,
while mat husband work as DHL mat…

and their supported LEADERS drive
Bentley, BMW
(by investing MIllion for that positions….)

I miss old days… when we have LLN, JAS & etc… our critical public utility should never go private.. if want private all, can, but be gentleman open market!, give way to free market, let them all open business here, TNB2, car factories, open media.. want to go for capitalist, go for real capitalist, make anti monopoly act.. but in the end today, a few monopoly.. have to follow the gov policy.. NAP for instance.. like communist… get my point?

Even few communist countries even better, when we talked about car industry here..

But I disagree with honda_driver statement to motorhead that imply if we are disagree or not happy with G that we can choose the option to settle in other country. This is typical “BN freak DNA” that try to equate vote for BN = love for country, vote for Opposition (DAP, Pas, KeAdilan, etc) = “menderhaka/unpatriotic”. In our democratic country, if rakyat don’t vote for BN, then “balik kampong tanam jagong”. Our love for country is still forever there, only BN G is not there, so what a big fuse!

Those “menderhaka/unpatriotic” are involve in subversive elements, criminal, destabilize the society, illegal activities, etc. You ask G that current AP Kings and crocs are they patriotic and love for country? The same person will say yes because they formulate CarTaxLand policy to make you to pay “patriotic contribuiton”!

Tell me 1 big project in Bolehland has no problem?.. small project like MATRADE oso cant kautim…All GLC creating lost.. including P1..

i choose to live here by choice and i’m happy where i am. One of the best things about our country is, we still have a decent degree of free speech, and we can still pretty much blog without fear of prosecution. A very close “neighbour” of ours, regularly prosecutes bloggers for things they mention about the government.

Another good thing about our country is, there is no restriction on its citizens travelling overseas (except to isreal). We can also choose on our own free will to settle in another country. Maybe you should take up that option since you are so unhappy?

btw, loving your country, and loving your government are 2 different things. Me? I love my country.

CAPMUNIST… capitalist + communist.. new term for bolehland ideology ..

Just because we have generally good press freedom, and freedom of speech, does not mean we can abuse it. We are all responsible for what we say.

Just My Opinion….haha