Comments on: Smart ForTwo Crash Test

By: Isamu

Isamu — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:50:05 +0000

Traditionally, technologies “GADGETS” found in S-Class are roughly 5~8 years ahead of others. This is especially true for safety technologies. So, the current S-Class is in fact a pseudo-next generation car. Of course next generation safety technologies will incorporate newer hardwares and softwares. Actually the most important thing in safety gadgets is the software. Most of the algorithms are proprietary stuff owned by suppliers. Even companies like Daimler-Chrysler, BMW, Volvo, Toyota and Honda don’t know much about these technologies. They approach the suppliers in order for solutions customised for them.

There’s going to be an SUV out soon on the local market with some next generation safety tecnologies. Most probably by the end of the year.

By: Tracks

Tracks — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:08:57 +0000

Isamu,

Thanks for the info. However, what you have mentioned is also what I thought would have happen earlier before I watched the video. Take note that the side and curtain airbags on the left side of the S-class had deployed during the collision.

Looking back at the video at slow motion, you would notice that the for2 tridon cell flex significantly during the collision. Now, if the for2 had side and curtain airbags just like the S-class, my guess is that it would had triggerred the airbags but perhaps prematurely rendering it to be less effective during a roll-over.

These are just my assumption based on my observation of the above video.

By: Isamu

Isamu — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:32:53 +0000

Tracks,

A frontal crash will not trigger the deployment of side airbags. There are only two scenarios where the side airbags will deploy. Current generation side airbags will only deploy when the side impact sensors detect a crash from the side. The sensors work independently on the left hand side and right hand side. Next generation side airbags will deploy together with driver and passenger airbags if the roll rate sensor detects a roll.

Compared to driver or passenger airbags, side airbags deploy MUCH faster while it also deflates much slower after deployment. The slow deflating action is meant to allow the side airbags to act as a cushion for the occupants heads against the road or roof.

By: szw

szw — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:35:57 +0000

sure myvi oso can’t handle dat !
savvy jz like for2 !

By: afhstingray

afhstingray — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:39:38 +0000

not to mention a broken neck as it “melayangs” lol

however it does go to show that even small cars can be relatively safe today, unlike certain small cars on malaysian roads that dont feature new technologies

By: Tracks

Tracks — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:51:39 +0000

Personally, I don’t think side airbags would have helped as it would have been triggered during the frontal collision rendering it useless during a roll over. Therefore, the result would still be severe head injuries due to the roll over.

By: jiun_sayz

jiun_sayz — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:29:34 +0000

TIN CAN!!

Though the cabin might still be in good condition, the ppl inside the car will die of the various and multiple impacts when the car goes ‘layang’ing.

By: raybrig85

raybrig85 — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:16:59 +0000

btw…out of topic…saw eurosport news today…the arabian use jeep wrangler to play football…jz like the aygo and fox…

By: raybrig85

raybrig85 — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:15:50 +0000

eerrrr…it reminds me wut vw had done to thier car…vw phaeton and vw lupo…the lupo also melayang but not like this smart…horror…hehehek…

By: jjagen2

jjagen2 — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:46:50 +0000

anybody know at what speed this 2 cars collied?

By: mr.nice guy

mr.nice guy — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:10:03 +0000

so terrible &wonder if the smart fortwo can be tough as proton savvy or put proton savvy VS smartfortwo car together to see the results..

By: raptorclans

raptorclans — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:59:45 +0000

i have a feeling this is a more “real-world” and closer to life test than the usual euro ncap one. because it seems that they’re goin at a far higher speed, closer to wat we’d be driving, hence scarrier results. the s-class’ grille popped out from the impact!

By: auyongtc

auyongtc — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:20:27 +0000

not so smart after this…

By: Isamu

Isamu — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:03:50 +0000

Honda has been doing vehicle crash compatibility test since 2001 in Tochigi, Japan. Massively expensive crash tests are conducted here. Sort of a English Premier League kind of thing where for example several Civics will be crash-tested one-by-one with other models, big or small like Accord, Life, Fit, Legend and etc.

By: Isamu

Isamu — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:56:12 +0000

The occupants would have sustained serious head injuries after the rollover. No doubt that the cabin is sturdy but it’s so prone to tipping over. Hmm.. Maybe it needs side airbags.

By: gmtgoh

gmtgoh — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:48:08 +0000

Go to any Proton or eon showroom on this FRIDAY 16 june 2006 desire!

By: gmtgoh

gmtgoh — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:45:56 +0000

Stay on to watch our National Car SRM launching this FRIDAY 16 June 2006 CONFIRM!!!!!!!

By: ryan_foong80

ryan_foong80 — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:30:04 +0000

well smart looks so pity….. they look like playing rubgy….

By: wmzhaffran

wmzhaffran — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:29:12 +0000

org tuh patah kaki jek… ekekekeke

By: Joe Ooi

Joe Ooi — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:19:22 +0000

Noted your comment aesthari. Anyway, my opinion are drive carefully and safely. We have a duty of care toward others during driving. Car safety feature is design to take certain impact and minimize injury to human body. Car with inadequate safety feature is too bad and make our life “cheap”.

By: wisdom_bin

wisdom_bin — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:01:00 +0000

TUV did the test?, there’s a sticker written TUV on it at the side of the car..

By: claxxion

claxxion — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:02:38 +0000

Owww.. I wouldn’t want to be in that smart fortwo. Even though the car will fly and the cabin is strong enough to protect me, i’ll probably die of heart attack…

Conclusion: nothing is safe on the road. Be it a mayback or hummer…

By: raybrig85

raybrig85 — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:01:17 +0000

hooiyo track…i cant imagine that…dats really horrible…

haiya u guyz…da start topic p1 and p2 pulak dah…alahai…not only p1 and p2…all carmakers if they dun hv a good safety features…the car will hancusla…if u jz hv a strong bodyshell…bt dun hv other features…u still not selamat…same like u hv good safety features xcept the bodyshell is not strong…still…x selamat…

By: aesthari

aesthari — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:41:36 +0000

Haha, I didn’t talk about battle tanks and stuff cuz we don’t have those running on our roads, but colission with larger vehicles like 4×4s and lorries are common on Malaysian roads. No, don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that the ForTwo isn’t safe enough, I was just wondering about the results should a crash happen from the rear or sides.

By: engtaokia

engtaokia — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:19:58 +0000

ask P1 to do similar test and we see how is the result with their so-called TOUGH CAR’ Savvy

By: Joe Ooi

Joe Ooi — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:15:39 +0000

Aiya aesthari, every car safety feature there is a limit, but look at the crash test, Smart for 2 is consider safe under normal head-on collision even with big-bull S class.

If imagine and/or talk on extreme conditions, then why don’t mentioned roll over by steam roller or American M-1 Abram Main Battle Tank, any sedan car also flatten like roti canai lol……….

By: aesthari

aesthari — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:58:39 +0000

Hm, I always thought that the ForTwo will not fare much better than a Kancil, but it is indeed very safe. I agree with Tracks though, it might survive one crash, but when you are on a highway and cars are travelling faster, multiple or series crashes do occur, the passengers of the ForTwo might not be so safe then. The test is just a frontal crash test, how about the sides? And what if the car is hit by a lorry, the bumper of the lorry is so high, it might just hit the mirrors. The rear screen of the ForTwo is very near to the head of the passengers. I think there’s only a clearance about 1 feet + between the rear screen and the passenger headrest.

By: jtshin

jtshin — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:55:56 +0000

Wow… even though it ‘flies’ away but the the safety features are really great, even the big S-class can’t harn the passengers badly. By the way, The Smart for-two is just the size of the engine part of the S-class! haha… n yeah… the Smart For-two is really expensive.. if Brabus version even more expensive… hmm… I only saw one in my town here, but I don’t like the colour, green with black… strange….

By: cyborgx

cyborgx — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:51:20 +0000

Savvy bodyshell is strong but that doesnt mean MyVi bodyshell is weak. Get that fact right. A car with no airbag and ABS.. where your head will land onto when accident happens? on the steering wheel? good for you.

By: Paul Tan

Paul Tan — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:28:05 +0000

ruykava: an suv’s bumper and body structure is higher than a sedan liek the S class. so the damage would be hitting the Smart ForTwo at a point higher than what an S class would hit. the Smart ForTwo’s structure might not be optimised to take damage at higher points.