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	<title>Comments on: Volvo Multi-Fuel V70 Car</title>
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		<title>By: rexis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41125</link>
		<dc:creator>rexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 09:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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imrik82 said, 
June 14, 2006 @ 6:28 pm 
 
the last time i read an article about using hydrogen as a fuel had this &#226;&#8364;&#339;minor&#226;&#8364; prob.. in a bad car crash they become mini bombs&#226;&#8364;&#166;. and considering malaysians are wana be f1 drivers i can imagine hearing explosions from my apartment :D 
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Not really using pure hydrogen la, in hythene, hydrogen is like an addictive to improve flamability. So the car is no different then NGV, maybe a bit more powerful or a bit save fuel coz you dont have to inject so much hythene to enable burning. 
 
Mini bomb? Not really, if the gas tank leaked, the hydrogen+methane gas will escape to high ground immediately due to that it is lighter then air. Unlike petrol, which will pool on the road surface and if theres a spark, you will see a big fire. Also, the high pressure gas cylinders is many times much more stronger then petrol fuel tank. </description>
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<p>imrik82 said,</p>
<p>June 14, 2006 @ 6:28 pm</p>
<p>the last time i read an article about using hydrogen as a fuel had this &acirc;&euro;&oelig;minor&acirc;&euro; prob.. in a bad car crash they become mini bombs&acirc;&euro;&brvbar;. and considering malaysians are wana be f1 drivers i can imagine hearing explosions from my apartment <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>Not really using pure hydrogen la, in hythene, hydrogen is like an addictive to improve flamability. So the car is no different then NGV, maybe a bit more powerful or a bit save fuel coz you dont have to inject so much hythene to enable burning.</p>
<p>Mini bomb? Not really, if the gas tank leaked, the hydrogen+methane gas will escape to high ground immediately due to that it is lighter then air. Unlike petrol, which will pool on the road surface and if theres a spark, you will see a big fire. Also, the high pressure gas cylinders is many times much more stronger then petrol fuel tank.</p>
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		<title>By: rexis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41122</link>
		<dc:creator>rexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, 
 
Ohh i left out something in the petrol definition: 
- petrol: dinosaur died 100s millions years ago and buried deed underground, they are too fat and their fat and body become the raw material to make petrol. If they are depleted, we will have to wait for another 100millions years to pump from paul&#039;s grave yard that looks like a petrol station. So dont waste petrol. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Ohh i left out something in the petrol definition:</p>
<p>- petrol: dinosaur died 100s millions years ago and buried deed underground, they are too fat and their fat and body become the raw material to make petrol. If they are depleted, we will have to wait for another 100millions years to pump from paul&#039;s grave yard that looks like a petrol station. So dont waste petrol.</p>
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		<title>By: rexis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41120</link>
		<dc:creator>rexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats wrong with you? Looking at others people product easily we will think about &quot;can we make this too?&quot; &quot;do we have anything come close to this?&quot;, and as a Malaysian, what else we could though of? Perodua? Will a british or aussy will immediately talk proton built quality when they looking at a BMW/Volvo/Merc? LOL 
 
We are just asking proton to improve quality, is that so hard to listen to us? 
 
I open restaurant, food not delicious, friends will warn me, this not fresh that not cook, strangers will just walk away and tell 100 more strangers that my food sucks. But if I am so stuborn and refuse to listen to my friends, I am soon close shop. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats wrong with you? Looking at others people product easily we will think about &quot;can we make this too?&quot; &quot;do we have anything come close to this?&quot;, and as a Malaysian, what else we could though of? Perodua? Will a british or aussy will immediately talk proton built quality when they looking at a BMW/Volvo/Merc? LOL</p>
<p>We are just asking proton to improve quality, is that so hard to listen to us?</p>
<p>I open restaurant, food not delicious, friends will warn me, this not fresh that not cook, strangers will just walk away and tell 100 more strangers that my food sucks. But if I am so stuborn and refuse to listen to my friends, I am soon close shop.</p>
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		<title>By: fusuke9</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41110</link>
		<dc:creator>fusuke9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What wrong with you guys? Is there no stop of this anti-proton runs? I guess some  do not know what soil that we&#039;ve been staying on and  origins, in your IC its stated &quot;Malaysian&quot; unless your illegals. 
 
Take it easy on the comparing with proton, how do you expect to change when you dont give a chance for our country to at least try to upgrade slowly? But when we manage to have a breakthrough in technology, everybody shuts up. Its very easy to complain, but its very tough to give compliments. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What wrong with you guys? Is there no stop of this anti-proton runs? I guess some  do not know what soil that we&#039;ve been staying on and  origins, in your IC its stated &quot;Malaysian&quot; unless your illegals.</p>
<p>Take it easy on the comparing with proton, how do you expect to change when you dont give a chance for our country to at least try to upgrade slowly? But when we manage to have a breakthrough in technology, everybody shuts up. Its very easy to complain, but its very tough to give compliments.</p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41105</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keep up da good work ! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keep up da good work !</p>
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		<title>By: amir</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41101</link>
		<dc:creator>amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton? ya right...ask them to improve they&#039;re quality and safetyness first la....they can&#039;t even reach the renault in safety la!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton? ya right&#8230;ask them to improve they&#039;re quality and safetyness first la&#8230;.they can&#039;t even reach the renault in safety la!!!</p>
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		<title>By: imrik82</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41094</link>
		<dc:creator>imrik82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good way to get rid of them though! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good way to get rid of them though!</p>
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		<title>By: imrik82</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41093</link>
		<dc:creator>imrik82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 18:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the last time i read an article about using hydrogen as a fuel had this &quot;minor&quot; prob.. in a bad car crash they become mini bombs.... and considering malaysians are wana be f1 drivers i can imagine hearing explosions from my apartment :D </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the last time i read an article about using hydrogen as a fuel had this &quot;minor&quot; prob.. in a bad car crash they become mini bombs&#8230;. and considering malaysians are wana be f1 drivers i can imagine hearing explosions from my apartment <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41086</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the additional info, rexis </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the additional info, rexis</p>
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		<title>By: rexis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41042</link>
		<dc:creator>rexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton should consider making some bi-fuel first, just add in a NGV tank, its not that hard. Can make some PR feel good demo too. 
 
Ok heres some details of the fuels: 
 - Hythene: means hydrogen methane, is hydrogen gas mixed with natural gas(methane), the purpose of mixing them is to improve flammability of the gas fuel becoz hydrogen burns faster. 
 - biomethane: or known as biogas, one of the waste product of organic matters decaying without the present of oxygen. This is a green fuel that made of waste material. 
 - natural gas: you can get this at petronas NGV pump. 
 - E85: 85% ethanol mixed with 15% petrol, the ethanol can be made of jagung, tebu, ubi kayu, etc, it is renewable and cleaner then petrol. The 15% petrol is for easy cold starting. 
 - petrol: dinosaur died 100s millions years ago and buried deed underground, they are too fat and their fat and body become the raw material to make petrol... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton should consider making some bi-fuel first, just add in a NGV tank, its not that hard. Can make some PR feel good demo too.</p>
<p>Ok heres some details of the fuels:</p>
<p> &#8211; Hythene: means hydrogen methane, is hydrogen gas mixed with natural gas(methane), the purpose of mixing them is to improve flammability of the gas fuel becoz hydrogen burns faster.</p>
<p> &#8211; biomethane: or known as biogas, one of the waste product of organic matters decaying without the present of oxygen. This is a green fuel that made of waste material.</p>
<p> &#8211; natural gas: you can get this at petronas NGV pump.</p>
<p> &#8211; E85: 85% ethanol mixed with 15% petrol, the ethanol can be made of jagung, tebu, ubi kayu, etc, it is renewable and cleaner then petrol. The 15% petrol is for easy cold starting.</p>
<p> &#8211; petrol: dinosaur died 100s millions years ago and buried deed underground, they are too fat and their fat and body become the raw material to make petrol&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KY</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41041</link>
		<dc:creator>KY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have 2 in 1 taxi in malaysia. </description>
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		<title>By: wmzhaffran</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41022</link>
		<dc:creator>wmzhaffran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope proton will do exactly like volvo, so i can save my pocket money...... :p </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope proton will do exactly like volvo, so i can save my pocket money&#8230;&#8230; :p</p>
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		<title>By: raybrig85</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41009</link>
		<dc:creator>raybrig85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>waaa...5 in 1...we can choose rite...not to isi sume tank rite??really sv money i think...good job frm volvo... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waaa&#8230;5 in 1&#8230;we can choose rite&#8230;not to isi sume tank rite??really sv money i think&#8230;good job frm volvo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jtshin</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-41003</link>
		<dc:creator>jtshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems complicated design there, but it really saves lots of petrol. Wondering when will it be popular in the future. hv to go energy station to fill in 3 tanks before it can run though... there&#039;s still room for improvement. bravo for Volvo. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems complicated design there, but it really saves lots of petrol. Wondering when will it be popular in the future. hv to go energy station to fill in 3 tanks before it can run though&#8230; there&#039;s still room for improvement. bravo for Volvo.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ooi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/13/volvo-multi-fuel-v70-car/#comment-40998</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wah 5 in 1 source of energy! Paul, how about enigne reliability in the long run given different types of fuel? </description>
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