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	<title>Comments on: Proton to expand Indonesian operations</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: scott81</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-44639</link>
		<dc:creator>scott81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>expand production?then who is going to buy the proton?mayb proton is a car which only fit to 3rd world country, like our country. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>expand production?then who is going to buy the proton?mayb proton is a car which only fit to 3rd world country, like our country. </p>
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		<title>By: xin731</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42918</link>
		<dc:creator>xin731</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like motorhead said, 
changes 75% excise tax for gov income indonesia, 
then see loh... 
 
+++++ 
RM53000 GEN2 in malaysia, 
then in indonesia +75% tax just like below... 
 
Original price                       RM53000 
Excise Tax 75%                    RM37500 
Sales Tax                             RM  1500 
Totally                                 RM92000!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
 
then see how good PROTON can sell the price like NISSAN SENTRA in malaysia!! 
 
Funny!!!!!!!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like motorhead said,</p>
<p>changes 75% excise tax for gov income indonesia,</p>
<p>then see loh&#8230;</p>
<p>+++++</p>
<p>RM53000 GEN2 in malaysia,</p>
<p>then in indonesia +75% tax just like below&#8230;</p>
<p>Original price                       RM53000</p>
<p>Excise Tax 75%                    RM37500</p>
<p>Sales Tax                             RM  1500</p>
<p>Totally                                 RM92000!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>then see how good PROTON can sell the price like NISSAN SENTRA in malaysia!!</p>
<p>Funny!!!!!!!!!! </p>
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		<title>By: goingberserk</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42753</link>
		<dc:creator>goingberserk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahh </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahh </p>
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		<title>By: raybrig85</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42651</link>
		<dc:creator>raybrig85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wuteverlah proton... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wuteverlah proton&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42635</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good luck proton ! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good luck proton ! </p>
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		<title>By: Celicazz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42630</link>
		<dc:creator>Celicazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is the equipments mentioned above considered in quality matters? i dont think so... but, however, nice try... only 3000/year wont do much... to export them to UK even seems like not a very good idea coz their money is &#039;higher&#039; than us... maybe china makes a good place to sell... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is the equipments mentioned above considered in quality matters? i dont think so&#8230; but, however, nice try&#8230; only 3000/year wont do much&#8230; to export them to UK even seems like not a very good idea coz their money is &#039;higher&#039; than us&#8230; maybe china makes a good place to sell&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: chun202</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42627</link>
		<dc:creator>chun202</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure all the proton export to Indo. will have better quality than malaysia. for example Gen2 .1.3. - got air bag, ABS, cd-player in UK. In Malaysia, what we get got gen2 1.3. wake up lah proton. if dun have EXCISE tax to protect u, i think our malaysians&#039; life will be more happier. motorhead u r right - national suckers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure all the proton export to Indo. will have better quality than malaysia. for example Gen2 .1.3. &#8211; got air bag, ABS, cd-player in UK. In Malaysia, what we get got gen2 1.3. wake up lah proton. if dun have EXCISE tax to protect u, i think our malaysians&#039; life will be more happier. motorhead u r right &#8211; national suckers. </p>
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		<title>By: pycazu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42615</link>
		<dc:creator>pycazu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But nvrmind, they can &quot;export&quot; those stockpile-at-back-yard back to M&#039;sia, since G won&#039;t charge them for import tax what... just ED only mah. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But nvrmind, they can &quot;export&quot; those stockpile-at-back-yard back to M&#039;sia, since G won&#039;t charge them for import tax what&#8230; just ED only mah. </p>
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		<title>By: pycazu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42614</link>
		<dc:creator>pycazu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>300/4166 = 7.2% output only!!! 
I think they can&#039;t even afford to pay the electricity bill at such low output. Indon definitely will spoil P1 dream again for model like poor savvy,petrol-sucking Gen-2, old Waja, they going to say NO to P1. While sporty Neo may earn my respect, but Indon most likely will say NO however. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>300/4166 = 7.2% output only!!!</p>
<p>I think they can&#039;t even afford to pay the electricity bill at such low output. Indon definitely will spoil P1 dream again for model like poor savvy,petrol-sucking Gen-2, old Waja, they going to say NO to P1. While sporty Neo may earn my respect, but Indon most likely will say NO however. </p>
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		<title>By: mycar_stolen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42613</link>
		<dc:creator>mycar_stolen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no more new Proton to registered.even if they want to use KWSP money to bail out then we see how far the G can go? no focus, no identity, no prestige, not safe , no resale value then why still want to buy. 
 
hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm AFTA AFTA AFTA </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no more new Proton to registered.even if they want to use KWSP money to bail out then we see how far the G can go? no focus, no identity, no prestige, not safe , no resale value then why still want to buy.</p>
<p>hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm AFTA AFTA AFTA </p>
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		<title>By: jtshin</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42611</link>
		<dc:creator>jtshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pity Proton... no MPVs for indonesian market... I think they better get a Grandis to rebadge first... 300 Wiras for Indon market per month... pity Proton... 3000 per yr only... such bad targets... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pity Proton&#8230; no MPVs for indonesian market&#8230; I think they better get a Grandis to rebadge first&#8230; 300 Wiras for Indon market per month&#8230; pity Proton&#8230; 3000 per yr only&#8230; such bad targets&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: motorhead</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42610</link>
		<dc:creator>motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>national suckers??.. hahahaha.. sounds ok oso... 
 
but Neo earn my respect.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>national suckers??.. hahahaha.. sounds ok oso&#8230;</p>
<p>but Neo earn my respect&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: oversight</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42609</link>
		<dc:creator>oversight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s see if indonesia willing enough to be proton dumping ground....lol </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#039;s see if indonesia willing enough to be proton dumping ground&#8230;.lol </p>
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		<title>By: NoToLowQuality</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42608</link>
		<dc:creator>NoToLowQuality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wut&#039;s is wrong with Proton? Now only want to sell Waja,Gen-2 and Savvy in indo? I thought they have done this long time ago? Gen-2 and Waja is no longer new to Indo and what makes proton think that Indo going to buy those outdated model compare with Toyota?  
 
Wira main market is to taxi driver in indo.. is it not bad marketing? y not to the pesenger? taxi car should be aim for confort and fuel efficient car.. does wira have all this? does altis have all this?  
 
and in malaysia, how many taxi use wira compare with iswara which is even OLDER than wira? y not market iswara as taxi in indo and convert wira in our land as our fav taxi car?  
 
is proton wut we call &quot;national car&quot;? or should i say &quot;national suckers&quot;? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wut&#039;s is wrong with Proton? Now only want to sell Waja,Gen-2 and Savvy in indo? I thought they have done this long time ago? Gen-2 and Waja is no longer new to Indo and what makes proton think that Indo going to buy those outdated model compare with Toyota? </p>
<p>Wira main market is to taxi driver in indo.. is it not bad marketing? y not to the pesenger? taxi car should be aim for confort and fuel efficient car.. does wira have all this? does altis have all this? </p>
<p>and in malaysia, how many taxi use wira compare with iswara which is even OLDER than wira? y not market iswara as taxi in indo and convert wira in our land as our fav taxi car? </p>
<p>is proton wut we call &quot;national car&quot;? or should i say &quot;national suckers&quot;? </p>
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		<title>By: The Omnipotent</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42606</link>
		<dc:creator>The Omnipotent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they ship back those &quot;unsold&quot; Protons back to Malaysia and sell them to unsuspecting buyers... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they ship back those &quot;unsold&quot; Protons back to Malaysia and sell them to unsuspecting buyers&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: motorhead</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/06/28/proton-to-expand-indonesian-operations/#comment-42603</link>
		<dc:creator>motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok.. good.. make sure indon apply 75% EXCISE tax on poton CKDs.. indon gov. can earn some income oso.. then see how good poton can sell.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.. good.. make sure indon apply 75% EXCISE tax on poton CKDs.. indon gov. can earn some income oso.. then see how good poton can sell&#8230;. </p>
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