Comments on: What is an anti-lag or misfiring system?

By: Nicholas

Nicholas — Tue, 15 May 2012 11:19:06 +0000

Naturally Aspired engines, and supercharged engines are extremely better that turbocharged engines. I don’t understand why people jump straight to turbos when it comes to modifying thier japanese shit-box or 300-dollar-commodore. If you spend the effort upgrading and tuning the engine WITHOUT forced-induction, not only will you have a better preforming car, the engine will be far more reliable and low end torque

This is the reason all those Subaru WRX STi’s (and other similar cars) have terrible low-end torque.

By: Nicholas

Nicholas — Tue, 15 May 2012 11:18:49 +0000

This is the reason all those Subaru WRX STi’s (and other similar cars) have terrible low-end torque.

By: deano

deano — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:47:24 +0000

tell me wat wires need to b cut modified etc mait n im on it.safe deano

By: fordRStuner

fordRStuner — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:56:23 +0000

ALS systems [because they're part of the ECU and are electrical] can be switched on and off. Depending on size of the turbo, they can be useless, or almost necesssary. A small turbo such as a T2 or T25[uprated version found on escort cosworth small turbo edition] with uprated/lightened internals will spool up much quicker than with standard internals [much like lightning and knife edging crank, just to eliminate the small amount of resistence.]

Get a big turbo [something like a T3/ T34/ T4], lighten the internals, THEN have a mild ALS system and you get all the benefits without having to run such agressive ALS that it kills turbo/manifold prematurely.

By: lawrence Amoako

lawrence Amoako — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:18:01 +0000

i really want to understand surging and stalling?

By: SR20DE

SR20DE — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:03:46 +0000

cool!!! soo that's what missfiring system is.. thanx ^_^

By: cokonex

cokonex — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:43:37 +0000

I WANA KNOW IF THERE IS A ECU SYSTEM OR A WAY TO USE THE ANTI-LAG SYS. AT WILL

SO WHEN I'M NOT PLAYING STUPIS I CAN TURN IT OFF

AND USE IT BESIDE A HOT CHIK!!!

:-p

By: goldcanglam

goldcanglam — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 07:41:19 +0000

want to get ur car or bike misfire….no need turbo or big modify on ur car or bike…just need modify few wire …and know the way to “play”…u can go to you tube and watch my honda ex5 misfire…is full original engine without modify…check it out …

By: Akazamabamaboo

Akazamabamaboo — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:20:26 +0000

Nice…I'm gonna turbocharge my Kancil and watch the car itself explode…hahaha…

By: daze

daze — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:07:39 +0000

friendnotfoe..that's d flamethrower..

well. locally. u still can get it done d antilag. as long as u got money wat..

heard u can turn it on or off.. to prolong ur turbo life span…

By: cbljkkj

cbljkkj — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:35:49 +0000

Using a smaller turbine would not guarantee complete anti-lag if you are thinking bigger turbines have lag. Small turbines do have some lag although very little. Thing is, people tend to upgrade their turbines to a bigger size for more power to showcase in drift or drag.

The anti-lag is used to help the cars achieve maximum usage of the gears to achieve top speed or the speed that they are looking for. Most of the time, anti-lag is used in competitions to maximise power and efficiency in track times because of the reduction in turbo lag.

Only the "really anal", rich and stupid or competition people use it.

By: DAN

DAN — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:13:59 +0000

nice..nice fell a performance!!…wo..u

By: friendnotfoe

friendnotfoe — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:35:42 +0000

for those that you saw on our road most are not this system, just a spark plug attached at the muffler and etc etc… if i'm not mistaken…heard it somewhere…

By: raybrig85

raybrig85 — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:38:53 +0000

hhmmm..thanx…mbe i was wrong…:)

By: engtaokia

engtaokia — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:40:42 +0000

can make small size party BBQ chicken at the exhaust there :p

By: honda_driver

honda_driver — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:29:16 +0000

the "misfiring" sound is the combination of the engine being retarded, and fuel being cut from some cylinders. And it will only happen, when the systems detects wheelspin. its not "anti-lag". F1 cars today have no turbos mah only a turbo car can get 'lag'.

anti-lag systems on turbo cars also sound similar, because the engine is being retarded but fuel is still pumped in la.. thats the difference. so you also get a similar 'misfiring' sound.

By: Joe v2.0

Joe v2.0 — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:24:51 +0000

one way to reduce this turbo lag prob without using those anti lag system is by using smaller turbine. Smaller turbins are much faster to spool but with the sacrafice of top end power.

By: Dogster

Dogster — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:37:10 +0000

Where was this held?

By: raybrig85

raybrig85 — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:09:02 +0000

thanx abt the info honda_driver…

btw…abt the f1 cars…i know the sound of the traction control…and wut ure saying is da truth…but…still u can hear the sound of anti-lag…

By: rexis

rexis — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:57:06 +0000

awwww, thats misfiring system, i see i see.

By: Zgriffin

Zgriffin — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:46:42 +0000

Racing activities always an expensive hobbies to all Malaysian as most of the high performance gadget are imported.

By: honda_driver

honda_driver — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:39:08 +0000

it could also be an incorrect translation from japanese? who knows.. their words always seems to be translated weirdly from english.

raybrig, anti lag is only used on turbocharged cars.

hence the term anti-(turbo)lag. It basically keeps the turbo spooled up off throttle, and when the driver steps on it again, he doesn't need to build up boost again, as the boost is maintained by the system.

the sound you hear from the super Gt cars is just backfiring from throttle liftoff before a corner. lots of fuel pumped on full throttle, sudden liftoff to brake, and some unburnt fuel goes out and burns up.. its quite normal with race spec engines.

As for f1 cars, its their traction control, which works by cutting engine power to prevent wheelspin. There are sensors (somewhat like ABS) that detect wheelspin. Why the weird sound? because they use a combination of retarding the engine as well as cutting off the fuel supply to some cylinders. The misfiring sound you hear, is the unburnt fuel from some cylinders igniting as they come into contact with the hot exhaust.

By: Tracks

Tracks — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:21:23 +0000

In the Initial D, the black Evo3 has the anti-lag system and they refer to it as the misfiring system. Therefore, Paul I think your are right about the term being use there. I think same goes with Hong Kong.

By: Paul Tan

Paul Tan — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:16:12 +0000

the term misfiring is usually used in japan, i think.

By: raybrig85

raybrig85 — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:13:41 +0000

alwiz heard the anti-lag term…misfiring system??jarang kedengaran…btw…thanx paul with the good info…

hhmm…can c this happen at the f1 cars and super gt…same goes to rally…

By: aesthari

aesthari — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:53:41 +0000

Yup, anti-lag is the correct term. I believe people called it misfiring system because of the burst of flames from the exhaust; that usually happens when a car's engine timing is off, or releasing backpressure, that's why they called it misfiring system, i think :p Not too sure though, just my opinion, no need to quote me on this…

By: mystvearn

mystvearn — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:04:29 +0000

not as impressive as prodrive or the batman car :p

By: honda_driver

honda_driver — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:42:35 +0000

jzkzlz, didnt you read the whole posting? of course an anti-lag system is bad for the turbo, it also damages the exhaust system.. its a favourite for use on rally cars.. Paul has stated it clearly there. please read la the whole thing.. paul spend so much effort to post, and no one bothers to read it.

actually.. in my opinion, anti-lag is the proper term.. misfiring system is not the proper term, but something that i've only heard used in malaysia.

most of the cars in malaysia that we see that "seem" to have this system is actually not. There are products you can buy that "simulate" the effect, but is not an actual antilag system. All the high end standalone ECU's have the ability for antilag to be programmed into as an option.

By: jzkzlz

jzkzlz — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:37:55 +0000

wow…wat a firecrackers show….

don't these knocking effect spoilt the turbo??

or will the silencer getting wet with these over injected petrol??

Sure those engines only have the lifespan of

By: Paul Tan

Paul Tan — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:37:24 +0000

szw: what were you expecting?