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	<title>Comments on: Research Octane Number: What is RON95?</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: e-man</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-487557</link>
		<dc:creator>e-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 14:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bro, cup chai easily tuned bro.. u ask the mechanic to tune the stroke length down la coz RON is all about explosion timing...  no need waste money on 97... coz it very expansive n getting more expensive.. so, not efficient in term of money at all..  

if u compare with satria.. tgk la plak piston die besar camne.. skali nak tune mau beratus.. 

but still u got the point bro..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bro, cup chai easily tuned bro.. u ask the mechanic to tune the stroke length down la coz RON is all about explosion timing&#8230;  no need waste money on 97&#8230; coz it very expansive n getting more expensive.. so, not efficient in term of money at all..  </p>
<p>if u compare with satria.. tgk la plak piston die besar camne.. skali nak tune mau beratus.. </p>
<p>but still u got the point bro..</p>
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		<title>By: izhar</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-475484</link>
		<dc:creator>izhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 04:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its same for me, no cubchai or bike manual stated what kind of minimum RON they required.
Knock is mean a litlle knock, hard knock or knock when hot. It can happen either in idle or maybe only at higher RPM where we hard to hear it.

Since cubchai usually have a hotter engine and higher RPM compared to car, is it better to have greater RON.

If seeing with this article and we assume compression ratio is things we need to consider when selected octane number. it stated that Satria GTI with 10.5 compression ratio is considered high. And looking at list of cars which cannot used RON  95 is civic type-r which have compression ratio 11:1.

But if we look at some cubchai Yamaha 135LC for example, this bike have a high compression ratio too which is 10.9:1

As we can see, compression ratio can naturally increase due to formation of some carbon in cilinder room. In no time this 135 LC engine can naturally have 11:1 compression ratio too...

Is that mean LC is need to run RON 97? Remember, bike engine is heater compared too car, have a higher RPM and need more frequent engine oil change compared to a car engine.

Most cubchai have a lower comperession ratio for eg EX5 which is 9:1, this bike we can considered save using RON 95..

So what is other opinion about RON selection  in other high compression cubchai?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its same for me, no cubchai or bike manual stated what kind of minimum RON they required.<br />
Knock is mean a litlle knock, hard knock or knock when hot. It can happen either in idle or maybe only at higher RPM where we hard to hear it.</p>
<p>Since cubchai usually have a hotter engine and higher RPM compared to car, is it better to have greater RON.</p>
<p>If seeing with this article and we assume compression ratio is things we need to consider when selected octane number. it stated that Satria GTI with 10.5 compression ratio is considered high. And looking at list of cars which cannot used RON  95 is civic type-r which have compression ratio 11:1.</p>
<p>But if we look at some cubchai Yamaha 135LC for example, this bike have a high compression ratio too which is 10.9:1</p>
<p>As we can see, compression ratio can naturally increase due to formation of some carbon in cilinder room. In no time this 135 LC engine can naturally have 11:1 compression ratio too&#8230;</p>
<p>Is that mean LC is need to run RON 97? Remember, bike engine is heater compared too car, have a higher RPM and need more frequent engine oil change compared to a car engine.</p>
<p>Most cubchai have a lower comperession ratio for eg EX5 which is 9:1, this bike we can considered save using RON 95..</p>
<p>So what is other opinion about RON selection  in other high compression cubchai?</p>
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		<title>By: Skide</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-295985</link>
		<dc:creator>Skide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, I know that I&#039;m quite late to discuss this issue but the urban legend had since not died yet. Recently my friends and I discussed about the effect on RON 95 petrol on their &#039;kapcai&#039;. Most of us were using 100+ cc, 4 stroke, single cylinder IC engine. All of us agreed that there are exploding sound at the exhaust which means incomplete combustion. Several others experiencing higher fuel consumption (disrespect to the price).  
 
Currently, I&#039;m planning on doing a research for my FYP1 regarding the topic. The scope is limited to single cylinder engine, 4 stroke IC engine but any differences would be easier to be detect since there is only 1 cylinder.. 
 
Ron 95 and Ron 97 will be test for performance, carbon build up, exhaust output and fuel consumption.. 
 
I&#039;ll share with you the result. Now, I wonder if Modenas can provide us with 2 identical engine for our experiment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, I know that I&#039;m quite late to discuss this issue but the urban legend had since not died yet. Recently my friends and I discussed about the effect on RON 95 petrol on their &#039;kapcai&#039;. Most of us were using 100+ cc, 4 stroke, single cylinder IC engine. All of us agreed that there are exploding sound at the exhaust which means incomplete combustion. Several others experiencing higher fuel consumption (disrespect to the price). </p>
<p>Currently, I&#039;m planning on doing a research for my FYP1 regarding the topic. The scope is limited to single cylinder engine, 4 stroke IC engine but any differences would be easier to be detect since there is only 1 cylinder..</p>
<p>Ron 95 and Ron 97 will be test for performance, carbon build up, exhaust output and fuel consumption..</p>
<p>I&#039;ll share with you the result. Now, I wonder if Modenas can provide us with 2 identical engine for our experiment. </p>
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		<title>By: Saviour-V</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-258159</link>
		<dc:creator>Saviour-V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The day that the option for MyVi cars to switch out their gas-guzzling engines for cleaner fuel will be the day that change really happens in this country. 
 
Until then, I doubt we can expect much out of things. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The day that the option for MyVi cars to switch out their gas-guzzling engines for cleaner fuel will be the day that change really happens in this country.</p>
<p>Until then, I doubt we can expect much out of things. </p>
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		<title>By: abdullah</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-258080</link>
		<dc:creator>abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we do not need any fuel anymore... Change to electric cars... 
saving ur money in a long run &amp; even environment... So, Honda electrical car will arrive in Malaysia??? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we do not need any fuel anymore&#8230; Change to electric cars&#8230;</p>
<p>saving ur money in a long run &amp; even environment&#8230; So, Honda electrical car will arrive in Malaysia??? </p>
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		<title>By: deen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-248027</link>
		<dc:creator>deen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can we mix ron95 with ron97 </description>
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		<title>By: Ho OC.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-238659</link>
		<dc:creator>Ho OC.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since lsamu mentioned fuel cap, i was at one of the Petronas station filling my little Kanari some one came to introduce me with a can of fuel tank conditioner , do i need it? yes bcos the colour on the cap indicates the tank has accumulated a lot of water, that speeds up fuel evaporation and corrotion to the tank. having hear that  i was convinced. tell me guys ,really there are such liquid sold in the kiost can help or really there is water trapped inthe tank..since after using that can, that makes no difference that I&#039;m aware of. i did not go backthere since. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since lsamu mentioned fuel cap, i was at one of the Petronas station filling my little Kanari some one came to introduce me with a can of fuel tank conditioner , do i need it? yes bcos the colour on the cap indicates the tank has accumulated a lot of water, that speeds up fuel evaporation and corrotion to the tank. having hear that  i was convinced. tell me guys ,really there are such liquid sold in the kiost can help or really there is water trapped inthe tank..since after using that can, that makes no difference that I&#039;m aware of. i did not go backthere since. </p>
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		<title>By: 9166</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-238527</link>
		<dc:creator>9166</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good refresher on RON. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good refresher on RON. </p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-238448</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T Wish (D-4 engine) :( need ron100 ..., sorry if my writing offends </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T Wish (D-4 engine) <img src='http://vcdn2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  need ron100 &#8230;, sorry if my writing offends </p>
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		<title>By: LeBronJames</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-238429</link>
		<dc:creator>LeBronJames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jai, 
 
Shell V-Power in Malaysia is conform RON 97 with additives. Other countries V-Power maybe RON 99. Who care, what care u drive? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jai,</p>
<p>Shell V-Power in Malaysia is conform RON 97 with additives. Other countries V-Power maybe RON 99. Who care, what care u drive? </p>
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		<title>By: jai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-238420</link>
		<dc:creator>jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>v-power RON97? i doubt ..., if RON97 y they change the nozzle from blue to red color... i sense it is RON92 with super duper additives in it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>v-power RON97? i doubt &#8230;, if RON97 y they change the nozzle from blue to red color&#8230; i sense it is RON92 with super duper additives in it. </p>
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		<title>By: adzwan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-46433</link>
		<dc:creator>adzwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear paul-tan, 
 
 i have a classic car, Ford Escort. still i can use fuel RON97 unleaded?..because i check from the internet says need to install hardened valve seat. but i check on my manual book, the fuel rating for my engine (ford Crossflow) is 97 but didnt mention lead or unleaded...hm..so how..confuse already. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear paul-tan,</p>
<p> i have a classic car, Ford Escort. still i can use fuel RON97 unleaded?..because i check from the internet says need to install hardened valve seat. but i check on my manual book, the fuel rating for my engine (ford Crossflow) is 97 but didnt mention lead or unleaded&#8230;hm..so how..confuse already. </p>
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		<title>By: Isamu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45230</link>
		<dc:creator>Isamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction.. 
&quot;Less vapour leaked through the the seal would ensure that the pressure control valve work better&quot;.. 
 
Should read as.. 
Less vapour leaked through the seal would ensure less fuel loss through the seal.. The pressure build-up is not always enough to trigger the valve all the way to release the vapours into the air.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction..</p>
<p>&quot;Less vapour leaked through the the seal would ensure that the pressure control valve work better&quot;..</p>
<p>Should read as..</p>
<p>Less vapour leaked through the seal would ensure less fuel loss through the seal.. The pressure build-up is not always enough to trigger the valve all the way to release the vapours into the air.. </p>
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		<title>By: Isamu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45229</link>
		<dc:creator>Isamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I say Proton?  
Well, a tighter fuel cap ensures that the seal between the filler neck and the cap is air tight. Less vapour leaked through the the seal would ensure that the pressure control valve work better. The pressure build-up is not always enough to trigger the valve to release the vapours into the air.. Some cars have plastic fuel tanks which allows more expansion thus less fuel loss.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I say Proton? </p>
<p>Well, a tighter fuel cap ensures that the seal between the filler neck and the cap is air tight. Less vapour leaked through the the seal would ensure that the pressure control valve work better. The pressure build-up is not always enough to trigger the valve to release the vapours into the air.. Some cars have plastic fuel tanks which allows more expansion thus less fuel loss.. </p>
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		<title>By: nirzat</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45224</link>
		<dc:creator>nirzat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Brand New Proton PLASTIC tighter fuel cap with higher torque would solve that problem?  Every fuel cap have got holes for controlling fuel tank pressure.. look for it Isamu. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Brand New Proton PLASTIC tighter fuel cap with higher torque would solve that problem?  Every fuel cap have got holes for controlling fuel tank pressure.. look for it Isamu. </p>
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		<title>By: Isamu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45099</link>
		<dc:creator>Isamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A tighter fuel cap with higher torque would solve that problem.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tighter fuel cap with higher torque would solve that problem.. </p>
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		<title>By: nirzat</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45096</link>
		<dc:creator>nirzat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haahahahaa....... I&#039;m using the best petrol for my Iswara when it comes to &quot;Parking Lot Performance Under The Hot Sun!&quot;  Face it, we parked our cars most of the time when we&#039;re in our office.  What else.. Esso/Mobil Synergy F1 the best, less evaporated petrol compared to Petronas or Shell. 
 
Power, Milage or RON makes not sense in the parking lot but evaporation does.  0km/h Money Wise Brother... the car is not going anywhere but the petrol does sneaks out!  Think about it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haahahahaa&#8230;&#8230;. I&#039;m using the best petrol for my Iswara when it comes to &quot;Parking Lot Performance Under The Hot Sun!&quot;  Face it, we parked our cars most of the time when we&#039;re in our office.  What else.. Esso/Mobil Synergy F1 the best, less evaporated petrol compared to Petronas or Shell.</p>
<p>Power, Milage or RON makes not sense in the parking lot but evaporation does.  0km/h Money Wise Brother&#8230; the car is not going anywhere but the petrol does sneaks out!  Think about it. </p>
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		<title>By: Isamu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45092</link>
		<dc:creator>Isamu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the UK, the BP Ultimate 102 is RON102.. that can make your car &quot;fly&quot;.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the UK, the BP Ultimate 102 is RON102.. that can make your car &quot;fly&quot;.. </p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45091</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That monsterblog link is not working. 
 
1. I use petronas...for the RR points. Some statins at my area are very generous. RM30-180points.  RM50-200 points :D 
2. Support national company, not one coming from the land where drugs are legal, or from uncle sam&#039;s land.  
3. Ron 97, though nowdays thast the only option at petronas. 
 
I like Caltex with its reward system. RR has a delayed effect. Clatex you can get drinks right away. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That monsterblog link is not working.</p>
<p>1. I use petronas&#8230;for the RR points. Some statins at my area are very generous. RM30-180points.  RM50-200 points <img src='http://vcdn2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>2. Support national company, not one coming from the land where drugs are legal, or from uncle sam&#039;s land. </p>
<p>3. Ron 97, though nowdays thast the only option at petronas.</p>
<p>I like Caltex with its reward system. RR has a delayed effect. Clatex you can get drinks right away. </p>
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		<title>By: raybrig85</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45082</link>
		<dc:creator>raybrig85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually...our petrol ron97 is outdated...some car like frm audis...and alfa wit their new JTS engine...cant accept d ron97 petrol type...can accept but not in d same standard...like alfa gt...when u cruise till 120kph...the engine start struggle a bit...it cost of the petrol...the engine for that car jz can accept the minimum is petrol type ron98...if u wanna ron98 petrol...go for v-power...mahal ma...same goes to diesel...really damn low quality ma...our G had to considerla our petrol...low standardla... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually&#8230;our petrol ron97 is outdated&#8230;some car like frm audis&#8230;and alfa wit their new JTS engine&#8230;cant accept d ron97 petrol type&#8230;can accept but not in d same standard&#8230;like alfa gt&#8230;when u cruise till 120kph&#8230;the engine start struggle a bit&#8230;it cost of the petrol&#8230;the engine for that car jz can accept the minimum is petrol type ron98&#8230;if u wanna ron98 petrol&#8230;go for v-power&#8230;mahal ma&#8230;same goes to diesel&#8230;really damn low quality ma&#8230;our G had to considerla our petrol&#8230;low standardla&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Imprezo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45070</link>
		<dc:creator>Imprezo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making petrol is one of the most hazardous activities. Petrol contains benzene, which is carcinogenic (cancer causing). It used to be injected with lead compounds to increase its RON (research octane no.) and MON (motor octane no.). Another way was to inject LPG, but only until it reaches its maximum allowable vapour pressure (for storage safety reasons). LPG has octane of 101 (can&#039;t remember exactly). 
Anyway, to find out more, you can read about gasoline in Wikipedia. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making petrol is one of the most hazardous activities. Petrol contains benzene, which is carcinogenic (cancer causing). It used to be injected with lead compounds to increase its RON (research octane no.) and MON (motor octane no.). Another way was to inject LPG, but only until it reaches its maximum allowable vapour pressure (for storage safety reasons). LPG has octane of 101 (can&#039;t remember exactly).</p>
<p>Anyway, to find out more, you can read about gasoline in Wikipedia. </p>
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		<title>By: Imprezo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45069</link>
		<dc:creator>Imprezo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work in a Shell Refinery that produces petrol. Making petrol is interesting stuff. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work in a Shell Refinery that produces petrol. Making petrol is interesting stuff. </p>
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		<title>By: pablopabla</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45054</link>
		<dc:creator>pablopabla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following Paul&#039;s questions as a guide:- 
 
I use Primax 3. Can get RealRewards points for each Ringgit. Occasionally use Shell. I find that Primax 3 gives better mileage...but I would have chosen Shell if the BonusLink system gives a point for each Ringgit (BonusLink redemption more interesting). So, rewards system plays a big part to me. Fuel difference is quite negligible, I would say. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following Paul&#039;s questions as a guide:-</p>
<p>I use Primax 3. Can get RealRewards points for each Ringgit. Occasionally use Shell. I find that Primax 3 gives better mileage&#8230;but I would have chosen Shell if the BonusLink system gives a point for each Ringgit (BonusLink redemption more interesting). So, rewards system plays a big part to me. Fuel difference is quite negligible, I would say. </p>
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		<title>By: gokibin</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45025</link>
		<dc:creator>gokibin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh ya... i&#039;ve always wanted to know from u guys, as i&#039;m driving a kancil 850 ex 2001, what engine oil should i use? i&#039;m using caltex syn for cars &gt; 1000 cc. 
 
also, if i put one of those huge exhaust pipes, would it really effect my fuel mileage? 
 
sori for out topic q. thanx. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh ya&#8230; i&#039;ve always wanted to know from u guys, as i&#039;m driving a kancil 850 ex 2001, what engine oil should i use? i&#039;m using caltex syn for cars &gt; 1000 cc.</p>
<p>also, if i put one of those huge exhaust pipes, would it really effect my fuel mileage?</p>
<p>sori for out topic q. thanx. </p>
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		<title>By: gokibin</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45022</link>
		<dc:creator>gokibin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i posted this question in monster blog but i&#039;ll post it here too. 
 
is it true that cars like my kancil 850 ex 2001 should be filled up using ptronas&#039;s primax fuel rather tha shell&#039;s fuel. this is an advice given to me by my uncle who&#039;s a mechanical enineer. thanx. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i posted this question in monster blog but i&#039;ll post it here too.</p>
<p>is it true that cars like my kancil 850 ex 2001 should be filled up using ptronas&#039;s primax fuel rather tha shell&#039;s fuel. this is an advice given to me by my uncle who&#039;s a mechanical enineer. thanx. </p>
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		<title>By: oversight</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45016</link>
		<dc:creator>oversight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Tan said, 
Isn&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t V-Power RON97 with additives? 
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yes it&#039;s base on RON 97 with special additives 
 
 
Paul Tan said, 
V-Power is called Optimax in other countries and those are RON98, but it seems that our local V-Power is RON97. 
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it called RON 98 due to it&#039;s process at the refinery that process that fuel. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Tan said,</p>
<p>Isn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t V-Power RON97 with additives?</p>
<p>_____________________________________________________________________</p>
<p>yes it&#039;s base on RON 97 with special additives</p>
<p>Paul Tan said,</p>
<p>V-Power is called Optimax in other countries and those are RON98, but it seems that our local V-Power is RON97.</p>
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<p>it called RON 98 due to it&#039;s process at the refinery that process that fuel. </p>
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		<title>By: stewpid</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45015</link>
		<dc:creator>stewpid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leechorwin, 
ur campro knocking? try change the other varians of engine oil, and spark plugs. its not about ecu. last time it works in my wira, change to no.6 plugs from ngk, the knocking dissapers. 
 
yeah, agree with motorhead, the best cleaning power is caltex </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leechorwin,</p>
<p>ur campro knocking? try change the other varians of engine oil, and spark plugs. its not about ecu. last time it works in my wira, change to no.6 plugs from ngk, the knocking dissapers.</p>
<p>yeah, agree with motorhead, the best cleaning power is caltex </p>
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		<title>By: motorhead</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45009</link>
		<dc:creator>motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dogster, 
 
ermm.. caltex may not as powerful as primax, but it&#039;s cleaning power still the best... try fill full tank &amp; start the engine in the morning, u can see the difference.. i used to ride my bike more than 150kmp, with caltex my bike vibrate lesser.. i too like primax, but sometimes i fill caltex oso, btw caltex stations r not so many.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogster,</p>
<p>ermm.. caltex may not as powerful as primax, but it&#039;s cleaning power still the best&#8230; try fill full tank &amp; start the engine in the morning, u can see the difference.. i used to ride my bike more than 150kmp, with caltex my bike vibrate lesser.. i too like primax, but sometimes i fill caltex oso, btw caltex stations r not so many&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: oversight</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-45007</link>
		<dc:creator>oversight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Tan said, 
Isn&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t V-Power RON97 with additives? 
 
What is the octane rating of Shell V-Power? 
The Research Octane Number (RON) is 97.0 minimum and all cars can use this petrol. 
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actually RON 92 and 97 have it&#039;s own additive. V power has it&#039;s own special blend additive. V power suitable to a car with turbo engine and engines have high compression ratio. also highly tune engine. all petrol basicaly are the same but how&#039;s it&#039;s been treated and additional additive makes it&#039;s different. 
 
Shaolin Tiger said, 
You can get RON100 here, somewhere near the old Subang Airport. 
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wah ! what company produce that fuel? my refinery only produce Jet A1 la. 
tell me la. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Tan said,</p>
<p>Isn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t V-Power RON97 with additives?</p>
<p>What is the octane rating of Shell V-Power?</p>
<p>The Research Octane Number (RON) is 97.0 minimum and all cars can use this petrol.</p>
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<p>actually RON 92 and 97 have it&#039;s own additive. V power has it&#039;s own special blend additive. V power suitable to a car with turbo engine and engines have high compression ratio. also highly tune engine. all petrol basicaly are the same but how&#039;s it&#039;s been treated and additional additive makes it&#039;s different.</p>
<p>Shaolin Tiger said,</p>
<p>You can get RON100 here, somewhere near the old Subang Airport.</p>
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<p>wah ! what company produce that fuel? my refinery only produce Jet A1 la.</p>
<p>tell me la. </p>
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		<title>By: e-nabilll</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/07/25/research-octane-number/#comment-44996</link>
		<dc:creator>e-nabilll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leechorwin : 
pinging and knocking nothing to do with ECU...u can request for a new ECU flash at any PE service center...its not gona solve much...u either tune it...to get the rite air/fuel mixture ratio thasts set by PDTT(that litle tuning device)..or use a proper semi synthetic oil....go to gen2club n u wil find out castrol is not recomended by gen2 owners...i use shell semi..and its very good..no sound and no nothing..only if i use v-power i wil have slight pinging...primax3 is the way to go....i recomend u go to Proton Edar batu Caves...Very good service...thr r 2 technicians there...who r very good n knowledgable abt campros...thy wil advice u </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leechorwin :</p>
<p>pinging and knocking nothing to do with ECU&#8230;u can request for a new ECU flash at any PE service center&#8230;its not gona solve much&#8230;u either tune it&#8230;to get the rite air/fuel mixture ratio thasts set by PDTT(that litle tuning device)..or use a proper semi synthetic oil&#8230;.go to gen2club n u wil find out castrol is not recomended by gen2 owners&#8230;i use shell semi..and its very good..no sound and no nothing..only if i use v-power i wil have slight pinging&#8230;primax3 is the way to go&#8230;.i recomend u go to Proton Edar batu Caves&#8230;Very good service&#8230;thr r 2 technicians there&#8230;who r very good n knowledgable abt campros&#8230;thy wil advice u </p>
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