Comments on: Perdana Replacement Model study still underway http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:59:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jengo http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-350640 jengo Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:48:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-350640 there is one more blunt....CAP AYAM :) there is one more blunt….CAP AYAM :)

]]> By: cactus_25 http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-51546 cactus_25 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 02:09:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-51546 Hi All, What kind woth perdana update?I'm awaiting for long time to hear launch for this model.Need advice Hi All,

What kind woth perdana update?I'm awaiting for long time to hear launch for this model.Need advice

]]> By: matmoto_5125 http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-46462 matmoto_5125 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:53:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-46462 proton,stop tking other's please!!!!!!!!!!! u hve succeed 2 develope waja,gen2,savvy n neo by urself.how come for perdana u continue 2 take mitsu's?????? don't let we say u stupid by taking other's.klu ye pun join venture,jgn ambik la model org len..aiyo... proton,stop tking other's please!!!!!!!!!!!

u hve succeed 2 develope waja,gen2,savvy n neo by urself.how come for perdana u continue 2 take mitsu's??????

don't let we say u stupid by taking other's.klu ye pun join venture,jgn ambik la model org len..aiyo…

]]> By: maxtek http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-46034 maxtek Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:05:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-46034 NO MATTER WHAT PROTON IS GOING TO DO, NEXT YEAR, THE GOVERNMENT HAD BETTER STOP PROTECTING PROTON. I'M SICK OF PROTON'S STUPID WAYS OF DOING BUSINESS, EVEN PERODUA WASN'T USING THE GOVERNMENT'S PROTECTION. PROTON, IF YOU CAN'T SELL CARS, SUCH AS ALLOWING THE PRICE OF THE HONDA CITY TO BE AS SAME AS YOUR WAJA, I'D SAY, GET THE HECK OUTTA THE BUSINESS!!! PERDANA FOR WHAT?! BUILD YOUR OWN, BE PATRIOTIC AND STOP TAKING OTHER CARS TO REBADGE THEM!!! iF YOU CONTINUE LIKE THIS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO IMPROVE! IDIOTS... NO MATTER WHAT PROTON IS GOING TO DO, NEXT YEAR, THE GOVERNMENT HAD BETTER STOP PROTECTING PROTON. I'M SICK OF PROTON'S STUPID WAYS OF DOING BUSINESS, EVEN PERODUA WASN'T USING THE GOVERNMENT'S PROTECTION.

PROTON, IF YOU CAN'T SELL CARS, SUCH AS ALLOWING THE PRICE OF THE HONDA CITY TO BE AS SAME AS YOUR WAJA, I'D SAY, GET THE HECK OUTTA THE BUSINESS!!!

PERDANA FOR WHAT?! BUILD YOUR OWN, BE PATRIOTIC AND STOP TAKING OTHER CARS TO REBADGE THEM!!!

iF YOU CONTINUE LIKE THIS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO IMPROVE! IDIOTS…

]]> By: motorhead http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45994 motorhead Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:14:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45994 Oo.. got ur point.. but if close, poton's workers will run amuk.. pity them.. give some face la... vendors oso will be affected.. Oo.. got ur point.. but if close, poton's workers will run amuk.. pity them.. give some face la… vendors oso will be affected..

]]> By: mycar_stolen http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45973 mycar_stolen Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:16:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45973 motorhead said, August 4, 2006 @ 12:37 pm close shop?.. may not, but sold, may be.. yes agree with you, but we have bigger target like to just close shop if cant make it maybe we go for second plan to sell over. you know like planning to score 4.0 maybe because of some problems will end up 3.8 but still a first class students. target achieved. motorhead said,

August 4, 2006 @ 12:37 pm

close shop?.. may not, but sold, may be..

yes agree with you, but we have bigger target like to just close shop if cant make it maybe we go for second plan to sell over. you know like planning to score 4.0 maybe because of some problems will end up 3.8 but still a first class students. target achieved.

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45825 nizam80 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:07:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45825 I think, Proton's new strategy now is 1 model per year basis. Maybe la.. i'm just guessing. Perdana Replacement in 2007, next maybe a Waja Replacement in 2008?? Perhaps we're going to see spyshots of the Waja Replacement in late 2007, huh?? I think, Proton's new strategy now is 1 model per year basis. Maybe la.. i'm just guessing. Perdana Replacement in 2007, next maybe a Waja Replacement in 2008?? Perhaps we're going to see spyshots of the Waja Replacement in late 2007, huh??

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45785 topgunthang Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:17:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45785 nope. i dont want to see a new perdana. or maybe im the only one. nope. i dont want to see a new perdana. or maybe im the only one.

]]> By: sipi the penyu http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45742 sipi the penyu Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:41:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45742 Xoomie,Xoomie..............you must be upset when currently, Proton does want to assemble the Mitsubishi 380 as the Perdana Replacement Model. It is actually a smart move from Proton.Customers nowadays are demanding for new models from Proton.And to produce a new model,it takes hundreds of MILLIONS investment.So, assembling the 380 does reduce the cost to launch a new model.Besides,we sure want to see a new Perdana right? Xoomie,Xoomie…………..you must be upset when currently, Proton does want to assemble the Mitsubishi 380 as the Perdana Replacement Model.

It is actually a smart move from Proton.Customers nowadays are demanding for new models from Proton.And to produce a new model,it takes hundreds of MILLIONS investment.So, assembling the 380 does reduce the cost to launch a new model.Besides,we sure want to see a new Perdana right?

]]> By: motorhead http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45705 motorhead Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:37:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45705 close shop?.. may not, but sold, may be.. close shop?.. may not, but sold, may be..

]]> By: mycar_stolen http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45703 mycar_stolen Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:22:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45703 TXoomie said, August 4, 2006 @ 10:12 am here is still some hope for savvy & neo, but let’s see after 2007 hope hope and hope...afetr 22years..still hope hope and hope my bet is 2007 PROTON CLOSE SHOP this model make it into production. TXoomie said,

August 4, 2006 @ 10:12 am

here is still some hope for savvy & neo, but let’s see after 2007

hope hope and hope…afetr 22years..still hope hope and hope

my bet is 2007 PROTON CLOSE SHOP this model make it into production.

]]> By: Xoomie http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45701 Xoomie Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:03:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45701 I just read in AW that Proton had cancelled the plan to make the 380 as perdana replacement. I just read in AW that Proton had cancelled the plan to make the 380 as perdana replacement.

]]> By: Xoomie http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45700 Xoomie Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:12:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45700 Launching a Perdana replacement would not make a different for Proton. What they need is a car that could sell like hot cakes. I dont think the new Perdana will do any much different for them. Like I said, Proton needs fressh models to replace Wira, Waja, Gen2. (Sedan with 1300cc - 1500cc) There is still some hope for savvy & neo, but let's see after 2007. Proton needs to keep the ball rolling. Launching a Perdana replacement would not make a different for Proton.

What they need is a car that could sell like hot cakes. I dont think the new Perdana will do any much different for them.

Like I said, Proton needs fressh models to replace Wira, Waja, Gen2.

(Sedan with 1300cc – 1500cc)

There is still some hope for savvy & neo, but let's see after 2007.

Proton needs to keep the ball rolling.

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45676 topgunthang Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:53:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45676 gen2, savvy and neo are a failure as long as they cant sell overseas and also in malaysia where there is protection and virtually few competitors.gen2 and savvy are failures. the neo is pending. will have to wait and see how it performs in the market. btw, gen2 savvy and neo are indeed below expectation. will see how this perdana replacement model talks go. gen2, savvy and neo are a failure as long as they cant sell overseas and also in malaysia where there is protection and virtually few competitors.gen2 and savvy are failures. the neo is pending. will have to wait and see how it performs in the market.

btw, gen2 savvy and neo are indeed below expectation. will see how this perdana replacement model talks go.

]]> By: malayman http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45668 malayman Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:05:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45668 hehe...yes i also have to open my door to pay toll but unfortuately i am not a vendor for proton getting rich. yes i am a proud first owner of my tiara and i have noo complains about the car. it gets me where i want to go, a fun drive and it doesnt give me hassles. the point i am trying to stress here is this, this is ure national car wether u accept it or not. i am not playing the nationalism game here but if you want to keep brainlessly bashing the car company then it just doesnt make sense. ok agreed before the gen 2 came out it was producing cars below expectations. now i see a difference. ask yourself this. are the few latest cars failures? anyone have window problems with your savvy? i was in a fens savvy negotiating a corner at 100kmh...i was surprised at the handling! u got something to say make it sensibel and a constructive comment. you make me read crap on this blog i bash you back..simple! :) hehe…yes i also have to open my door to pay toll but unfortuately i am not a vendor for proton getting rich. yes i am a proud first owner of my tiara and i have noo complains about the car. it gets me where i want to go, a fun drive and it doesnt give me hassles. the point i am trying to stress here is this, this is ure national car wether u accept it or not. i am not playing the nationalism game here but if you want to keep brainlessly bashing the car company then it just doesnt make sense. ok agreed before the gen 2 came out it was producing cars below expectations. now i see a difference. ask yourself this. are the few latest cars failures? anyone have window problems with your savvy? i was in a fens savvy negotiating a corner at 100kmh…i was surprised at the handling!

u got something to say make it sensibel and a constructive comment. you make me read crap on this blog i bash you back..simple!
:)

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45658 topgunthang Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:46:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45658 i'd agree. this perdana replacement crap will not be able to compete with civic even with the added extra space. the civic is unbeleivebly big enough and ultra economical.needless to say it will be a better drive all together. the threat by the government seems more like to scare people rather than catch people distorting the truth. it will be silly for bloggers or poster to say anything that is not the truth. and dont misinteprete between stating a fact and stating an opinion. this is the internet and most people nowadays know the internet comments cannot be trusted fully and you need to back up that claim/comment with your own experience and judgement. just becoz i say 380 is a failure in every part of the world doesnt mean it will be a failure. its just that based on my experience and my hard earned income, i wouldnt waste money on it. its gonna be built in australia, so quality wise it is already questionable. btw i also disagree with that multimillion dollar park they are building. we need to build things that generate income for the country. it seems building that putrajaya and the other one hasnt taught us anything. i'd agree. this perdana replacement crap will not be able to compete with civic even with the added extra space. the civic is unbeleivebly big enough and ultra economical.needless to say it will be a better drive all together.

the threat by the government seems more like to scare people rather than catch people distorting the truth. it will be silly for bloggers or poster to say anything that is not the truth. and dont misinteprete between stating a fact and stating an opinion. this is the internet and most people nowadays know the internet comments cannot be trusted fully and you need to back up that claim/comment with your own experience and judgement.

just becoz i say 380 is a failure in every part of the world doesnt mean it will be a failure. its just that based on my experience and my hard earned income, i wouldnt waste money on it. its gonna be built in australia, so quality wise it is already questionable.

btw i also disagree with that multimillion dollar park they are building. we need to build things that generate income for the country. it seems building that putrajaya and the other one hasnt taught us anything.

]]> By: avanza http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45655 avanza Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:09:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45655 Paul, I have one comment that didn't seem to make it to this forum. Did you do something to it? Paul, I have one comment that didn't seem to make it to this forum. Did you do something to it?

]]> By: Khairy bin Tengku Ma http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45652 Khairy bin Tengku Ma Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:52:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45652 Not a wise choice though.... Not a wise choice though….

]]> By: superman http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45649 superman Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:43:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45649 Kevin, That EO1 engine would not make much sense. Petronas was only willing to sell the engine to Proton at a very high price ( word has it more than the total cost of a GTI with 4G93 engine) . Which in turn would shoot the OTR price of the car sky high. And the EO1 engine was never fully "commercialized" and developed for mass market. For example, Emissions std were never set. drivebility . Just peak horsepower. Sure it has 200bhp headlining figures but at what cost? At the current market I think Proton being a business entity should be tightening their belts. not loosening it. Imagine the cost and logistical nightmare of having the Block cast overseas, imported , then assembled here. Kevin,

That EO1 engine would not make much sense. Petronas was only willing to sell the engine to Proton at a very high price ( word has it more than the total cost of a GTI with 4G93 engine) . Which in turn would shoot the OTR price of the car sky high.

And the EO1 engine was never fully "commercialized" and developed for mass market. For example, Emissions std were never set. drivebility . Just peak horsepower. Sure it has 200bhp headlining figures but at what cost?

At the current market I think Proton being a business entity should be tightening their belts. not loosening it.

Imagine the cost and logistical nightmare of having the Block cast overseas, imported , then assembled here.

]]> By: Kevin Lee http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45633 Kevin Lee Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:12:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45633 # superman said, August 2, 2006 @ 5:54 pm Kevin Lee said, August 2, 2006 @ 8:57 am my suggestions is that proton should probably make use of the e1 engine from petronas. it already develops 200hp and should be sufficient enough to be used in the proton. . ___________________________________________________________________________ That EO1 engine, despite pushing 200bhp was at the expense of fule consumption and emmision standards. Besides Petronas specified alluminuim block which in our country does not have a Allu cating plant. All in all the engine cost too much. well, i think its much better to be in expense of Proton rather than the rakyat. Long term economical benefits. If Proton creates a car that is so worthy, people would switch to buy Proton, the image brand goes up, this way, the economical benefits is well covered. Loosen your money a bit Proton, and you would make yourself a winner. #

superman said,

August 2, 2006 @ 5:54 pm

Kevin Lee said,

August 2, 2006 @ 8:57 am

my suggestions is that proton should probably make use of the e1 engine from petronas. it already develops 200hp and should be sufficient enough to be used in the proton. .

___________________________________________________________________________

That EO1 engine, despite pushing 200bhp was at the expense of fule consumption and emmision standards.

Besides Petronas specified alluminuim block which in our country does not have a Allu cating plant. All in all the engine cost too much.

well, i think its much better to be in expense of Proton rather than the rakyat. Long term economical benefits. If Proton creates a car that is so worthy, people would switch to buy Proton, the image brand goes up, this way, the economical benefits is well covered.

Loosen your money a bit Proton, and you would make yourself a winner.

]]> By: superman http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45630 superman Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:57:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45630 Xoomie said, August 2, 2006 @ 4:00 pm Rakyat need a reliable cheap 1500cc car like City /Vios.. not a 2.4liter thirsty monster !!! Ploton should do their homework. _________________________________________________________________________ Compare like with like la friend. The Vios /City is a small/medium sedan, ala Wira, Waja The Perdana is in a bigger segment ala Accord and Camry. Xoomie said,

August 2, 2006 @ 4:00 pm

Rakyat need a reliable cheap 1500cc car like City /Vios..

not a 2.4liter thirsty monster !!!

Ploton should do their homework.

_________________________________________________________________________

Compare like with like la friend. The Vios /City is a small/medium sedan, ala Wira, Waja

The Perdana is in a bigger segment ala Accord and Camry.

]]> By: superman http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45627 superman Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:54:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45627 Kevin Lee said, August 2, 2006 @ 8:57 am my suggestions is that proton should probably make use of the e1 engine from petronas. it already develops 200hp and should be sufficient enough to be used in the proton. . ___________________________________________________________________________ That EO1 engine, despite pushing 200bhp was at the expense of fule consumption and emmision standards. Besides Petronas specified alluminuim block which in our country does not have a Allu cating plant. All in all the engine cost too much. Kevin Lee said,

August 2, 2006 @ 8:57 am

my suggestions is that proton should probably make use of the e1 engine from petronas. it already develops 200hp and should be sufficient enough to be used in the proton. .

___________________________________________________________________________

That EO1 engine, despite pushing 200bhp was at the expense of fule consumption and emmision standards.

Besides Petronas specified alluminuim block which in our country does not have a Allu cating plant. All in all the engine cost too much.

]]> By: mycar_stolen http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45626 mycar_stolen Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:52:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45626 malayman said, August 2, 2006 @ 5:38 pm errr….xomie..the gen 2 is a what ar? 2.0 thirsty unreliable monter? do your own homework la fren… wah..you are one hardcore Proton fan la... why are you one of their super rich vendor ka? everybody talk about Proton you want to bash them... if you one Proton owner very loyal very smart but dont try to trick other people to end up like you... have to open door everytime want to pay toll..."power window not working" Proton own branding.....you know right....22 years of power window problem malayman said,

August 2, 2006 @ 5:38 pm

errr….xomie..the gen 2 is a what ar? 2.0 thirsty unreliable monter?

do your own homework la fren…

wah..you are one hardcore Proton fan la…

why are you one of their super rich vendor ka?

everybody talk about Proton you want to bash them…

if you one Proton owner very loyal very smart but dont try to trick other people to end up like you…

have to open door everytime want to pay toll…"power window not working"

Proton own branding…..you know right….22 years of power window problem

]]> By: malayman http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45622 malayman Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:38:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45622 errr....xomie..the gen 2 is a what ar? 2.0 thirsty unreliable monter? do your own homework la fren... errr….xomie..the gen 2 is a what ar? 2.0 thirsty unreliable monter?

do your own homework la fren…

]]> By: Xoomie http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45619 Xoomie Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:00:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45619 Rakyat need a reliable cheap 1500cc car like City /Vios.. not a 2.4liter thirsty monster !!! Ploton should do their homework. Rakyat need a reliable cheap 1500cc car like City /Vios..

not a 2.4liter thirsty monster !!!

Ploton should do their homework.

]]> By: malayman http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45596 malayman Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:39:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45596 gosh..i seriously hope this is not a complete rebadge.... but at least we will be getting something that is up to date now..not ancient tech. damn was expecting something from scratch actually. gosh..i seriously hope this is not a complete rebadge….

but at least we will be getting something that is up to date now..not ancient tech.

damn was expecting something from scratch actually.

]]> By: avanza http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45595 avanza Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:08:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45595 Paul, Have you read today's news? Bloggers beware! Your blog may be ok but the forum that follows your blog may not be. What if your forum 'spreads untruths'? Will you be held accountable? If so, you had better vet through all the forum replies. Boy! That will be some task. I wonder what they will do to foreigners who blogs 'untruths' about Malaysia. What can they do, eh? The govt have to suck up to it that the Internet is hear to uncover all truths! The Internet is a paradigm shift which they have to accept. You can't suppress information flowing thru te Internet much like you can't tell people not to breath air. Threats of criminal actions can no longer work. The fact is that the Internet means freedom and there is nothing anybody can do about that. Long live the Internet! Paul,

Have you read today's news? Bloggers beware! Your blog may be ok but the forum that follows your blog may not be. What if your forum 'spreads untruths'? Will you be held accountable? If so, you had better vet through all the forum replies. Boy! That will be some task.

I wonder what they will do to foreigners who blogs 'untruths' about Malaysia. What can they do, eh?

The govt have to suck up to it that the Internet is hear to uncover all truths! The Internet is a paradigm shift which they have to accept. You can't suppress information flowing thru te Internet much like you can't tell people not to breath air. Threats of criminal actions can no longer work. The fact is that the Internet means freedom and there is nothing anybody can do about that. Long live the Internet!

]]> By: Kevin Lee http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45591 Kevin Lee Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:57:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45591 my suggestions is that proton should probably make use of the e1 engine from petronas. it already develops 200hp and should be sufficient enough to be used in the proton. if proton ever puts a 2.4 litre or a 2.4 litre MIVEC, it would be far more unaffordable as road tax would kill more people. plus its a forward wheel drive with 1600kg, definately not a solid drive , like other australian FR cars at that weight. my suggestions is that proton should probably make use of the e1 engine from petronas. it already develops 200hp and should be sufficient enough to be used in the proton. if proton ever puts a 2.4 litre or a 2.4 litre MIVEC, it would be far more unaffordable as road tax would kill more people. plus its a forward wheel drive with 1600kg, definately not a solid drive , like other australian FR cars at that weight.

]]> By: jzkzlz http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45587 jzkzlz Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:17:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45587 not bad!!, bummerboy.. i like the headlamp & the bonnet.. good job... not bad!!, bummerboy..

i like the headlamp & the bonnet..

good job…

]]> By: szw http://paultan.org/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45576 szw Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:48:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/01/perdana-replacement-model-study-still-underway/#comment-45576 it would be a nice car . it would be a nice car .

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