Comments on: Proton Waja MME and Proton GEN.2 MME http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:59:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: aza http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-357413 aza Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:18:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-357413 wow!!!!! so beutiful ge2.my favourite car.how much ????special addition for new gen2 can u tell me.............. wow!!!!! so beutiful ge2.my favourite car.how much ????special addition for new gen2 can u tell me…………..

]]> By: zack dragster http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-319509 zack dragster Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:32:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-319509 for race car its useless if we use big size sport rim..... top speed will come late and burden the engine. for race car its useless if we use big size sport rim…..
top speed will come late and burden the engine.

]]> By: Aril http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-83189 Aril Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:44:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-83189 cun!!!!! cun!!!!!

]]> By: matmoto_5125 http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46461 matmoto_5125 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:47:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46461 amazing... amazing…

]]> By: V_NoZ http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46230 V_NoZ Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:52:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46230 +Gabanpolis ...u mention that the CAMPRO has a system similar to the variocam in the porsche. the syetem improves torque delivery at low / medium speed; Variable lift and duration lift during high rev power.it improves power, torque and fuel consumption across the entire engine speed range.but in the case of campro engine, this is not what its doing! i know there are still fine tuning the engine.The basic concept of the CPS(cam profile shift ) is from the Lotus and the system is currently used in The Porsche's VarioCam Plus. one of the plus on this CPS system is it's simplicity compared to japanese design. The CPS engaging mechanism is just a additional ring with tappet to lock the ring into the valve when the high cam lobe is needed. and The profile is switched at between 4000rpm to 5000rpm whenever the ECU seems fit. it still cant perform like a valve timing engine and i dont understand why proton resort to this system. might as well keep to the basic DOHC engine.. ! +Gabanpolis …u mention that the CAMPRO has a system similar to the variocam in the porsche. the syetem improves torque delivery at low / medium speed; Variable lift and duration lift during high rev power.it improves power, torque and fuel consumption across the entire engine speed range.but in the case of campro engine, this is not what its doing! i know there are still fine tuning the engine.The basic concept of the CPS(cam profile shift ) is from the Lotus and the system is currently used in The Porsche's VarioCam Plus. one of the plus on this CPS system is it's simplicity compared to japanese design. The CPS engaging mechanism is just a additional ring with tappet to lock the ring into the valve when the high cam lobe is needed. and The profile is switched at between 4000rpm to 5000rpm whenever the ECU seems fit. it still cant perform like a valve timing engine and i dont understand why proton resort to this system. might as well keep to the basic DOHC engine.. !

]]> By: OtakOtak http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46125 OtakOtak Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:07:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46125 So if the Savvy R3 kit is any indication, then it is not surprising this MME Special Edition will become "Standard Edition" to clear 2005 stock! So don't buy now, in future and forever........... So if the Savvy R3 kit is any indication, then it is not surprising this MME Special Edition will become "Standard Edition" to clear 2005 stock! So don't buy now, in future and forever………..

]]> By: mycar_stolen http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46119 mycar_stolen Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:37:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46119 Tracks said, August 8, 2006 @ 9:02 am The MME cars looks great but what happen to ABS and airbags. Safety first mah. Dear Mr Tracks... This is Proton we are talking about, do you thing they do care about something so call "customer satisfaction" they wont arent they....Msia is one of the highest no of road accodent this safety never put into concern.. as the ad says...ANDA MAMPU MENGUBAHNYA...dont buy la, remember what happen to savvy r3/zerokit/whatever kit 1st time 2500 later buy savvy free of those kit.. Tracks said,

August 8, 2006 @ 9:02 am

The MME cars looks great but what happen to ABS and airbags. Safety first mah.

Dear Mr Tracks…

This is Proton we are talking about, do you thing they do care about something so call "customer satisfaction" they wont arent they….Msia is one of the highest no of road accodent this safety never put into concern..

as the ad says…ANDA MAMPU MENGUBAHNYA…dont buy la, remember what happen to savvy r3/zerokit/whatever kit 1st time 2500 later buy savvy free of those kit..

]]> By: Tracks http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46111 Tracks Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:02:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46111 If Proton management is reading these, could you please step out and clarify once and for all that you have rectified the power window problem and door handle problem in the Waja. Keeping quiet doesn't help. Stand up and face the music and owned up to mistakes. Only then you could possibly earned the respect of us malaysian. The MME cars looks great but what happen to ABS and airbags. Safety first mah. If Proton management is reading these, could you please step out and clarify once and for all that you have rectified the power window problem and door handle problem in the Waja. Keeping quiet doesn't help. Stand up and face the music and owned up to mistakes. Only then you could possibly earned the respect of us malaysian.

The MME cars looks great but what happen to ABS and airbags. Safety first mah.

]]> By: OtakOtak http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46084 OtakOtak Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:12:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46084 mycar_stolen - "I like your comments as much as Proton don't like" mycar_stolen – "I like your comments as much as Proton don't like"

]]> By: OtakOtak http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46083 OtakOtak Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:10:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46083 MME - Mesti Masalah Edisi MME – Mesti Masalah Edisi

]]> By: gabanpolis http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46027 gabanpolis Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:16:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46027 V_Noz; wikipedia is a free encyclopedia that can be modified by everybody, don't take everything there as the truth. the cam profile switching in the campro engine was rumoured to be debuted with the upcoming satria neo gti or whatever they want to call it. rather than resembling the vtec or vvti, the system that proton will use is more similar to the system used by porsche, known as variocam. go check it out. know your facts first. V_Noz; wikipedia is a free encyclopedia that can be modified by everybody, don't take everything there as the truth. the cam profile switching in the campro engine was rumoured to be debuted with the upcoming satria neo gti or whatever they want to call it. rather than resembling the vtec or vvti, the system that proton will use is more similar to the system used by porsche, known as variocam. go check it out. know your facts first.

]]> By: motorhead http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46011 motorhead Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:38:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-46011 Ooo.. so we call it waja / gen2 Many Problems Edition, ke yi ma?... the specs oso different ma.. donno if Ah Chong workshop can service or not.. prepare to spare more money for maintenance i guess... u oso forgot to add, campro timing selalu lari punya... better my old ex850 carburetor engine, goin for 6th year without any problem.. next year in march if still no problem, still use the same clutch plate, drive shaft, power windows, aircond etc, i will celebrate with u all here.. teh tarik sorang satu.. hehehe.. Ooo.. so we call it waja / gen2 Many Problems Edition, ke yi ma?… the specs oso different ma.. donno if Ah Chong workshop can service or not.. prepare to spare more money for maintenance i guess… u oso forgot to add, campro timing selalu lari punya… better my old ex850 carburetor engine, goin for 6th year without any problem.. next year in march if still no problem, still use the same clutch plate, drive shaft, power windows, aircond etc, i will celebrate with u all here.. teh tarik sorang satu.. hehehe..

]]> By: mycar_stolen http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45971 mycar_stolen Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:08:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45971 this new Proton so called MME Edition.will guarantee future driver to open the door everytime they need to pay tolls, if they do used tags..still the power window will not working for no reason. it is Proton it will never change. buy Proton free 1000 problems. power window failure, water leaking, super wind noise, exhaust tip get rusty and fall off, doors cant open from outside, doors cant open from inside, cant engage into D from N, boot "hydraulic" arm faulty,inside roof fall off, door panel compartment fall off, auto cruise not functioning, aircond vents ruined because touch by small kids, suddent stall at traffic lights...and some mentality problems such like will never allow to drive thru hotel lobby because you are a Proton.not even in the list for tokyo drift casting, your friend ask you to park outside during their wedding, if go balik kampung your friend ask you to drive one day earlier then will arrive together, your kids prefer to take bus/lrt, your kids prefer school bus as going to school in Porotn better not to go to school. this new Proton so called MME Edition.will guarantee future driver to open the door everytime they need to pay tolls, if they do used tags..still the power window will not working for no reason. it is Proton it will never change. buy Proton free 1000 problems.

power window failure, water leaking, super wind noise, exhaust tip get rusty and fall off, doors cant open from outside, doors cant open from inside, cant engage into D from N, boot "hydraulic" arm faulty,inside roof fall off, door panel compartment fall off, auto cruise not functioning, aircond vents ruined because touch by small kids, suddent stall at traffic lights…and some mentality problems such like will never allow to drive thru hotel lobby because you are a Proton.not even in the list for tokyo drift casting, your friend ask you to park outside during their wedding, if go balik kampung your friend ask you to drive one day earlier then will arrive together, your kids prefer to take bus/lrt, your kids prefer school bus as going to school in Porotn better not to go to school.

]]> By: stewpid http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45966 stewpid Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:32:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45966 hehe.. campro eh? actually the real campro still in their labs, still in research. yea lor, the campro (with cps) still can be tapau by modified exhaust and intake by current engine in gen2. they still pening to settle this issue... agree with v_noz, they applies this to cut cost and for car security reason (car thief can steal the boot lock and make a duplicate key in less than 10 minutes). so for owner security, they should make a remote boot lock, so can open car boot using alarm remote. the butt lamps of new waja should using the LED, then it will actually chun.... hehe.. campro eh? actually the real campro still in their labs, still in research. yea lor, the campro (with cps) still can be tapau by modified exhaust and intake by current engine in gen2. they still pening to settle this issue…

agree with v_noz, they applies this to cut cost and for car security reason (car thief can steal the boot lock and make a duplicate key in less than 10 minutes). so for owner security, they should make a remote boot lock, so can open car boot using alarm remote.

the butt lamps of new waja should using the LED, then it will actually chun….

]]> By: Dogster http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45821 Dogster Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:58:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45821 Proton , tak tahu buat business. Haih, give proton a break man. 101 ppl already ketuk them. Anyway the overall concept of the waja facial upgrade is okay but failed on the butt :) I dont know why perodua showcased their DVVT, Its not even produced by them. They ar mearly showing what other company i.e toyota can do but we cant. >. Proton , tak tahu buat business. Haih, give proton a break man. 101 ppl already ketuk them. Anyway the overall concept of the waja facial upgrade is okay but failed on the butt :)

I dont know why perodua showcased their DVVT, Its not even produced by them. They ar mearly showing what other company i.e toyota can do but we cant. >.

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45820 nizam80 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:45:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45820 I kind of like the Waja MME. This Waja MME is based on the recent facelifted Waja, right guys? What i don't like is the "W A J A" lettering on the rear boot which took the position of the Proton logo. Look wat u have done Proton: the Waja is missing the thundercat logo at the rear! I kind of like the Waja MME. This Waja MME is based on the recent facelifted Waja, right guys? What i don't like is the "W A J A" lettering on the rear boot which took the position of the Proton logo. Look wat u have done Proton: the Waja is missing the thundercat logo at the rear!

]]> By: V_NoZ http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45819 V_NoZ Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:45:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45819 another thing.. i hope u notice that during the KLIMS.. perodua manage to show part of thier technology and design. the DVVT engine was on display for guest to see the working of the REAL valve timing engine.. where was proton's so call CAMPRO? they were busy showing nonsense car with thermometer light and NOT proton ( lotus) cars!. another thing.. i hope u notice that during the KLIMS.. perodua manage to show part of thier technology and design. the DVVT engine was on display for guest to see the working of the REAL valve timing engine.. where was proton's so call CAMPRO? they were busy showing nonsense car with thermometer light and NOT proton ( lotus) cars!.

]]> By: V_NoZ http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45818 V_NoZ Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:36:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45818 hi malayman! for ur reference i have attached a site u have to check out... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campro_engine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campro_engine</a> cheers hi malayman!

for ur reference i have attached a site u have to check out…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campro_engine
cheers

]]> By: V_NoZ http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45817 V_NoZ Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:29:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45817 malayman... tech/ expertise is available now... if proton can pay millions just to keep agusta alive... whats wrong then? cant they use the cash to buy it? if proton can fool us into thinking campro so call Cam Profile timing A.K.A VTEC/VVTI when actually is not.. what more u want them to con us? i guess u know about it. so wise up man! ur not a kid anymorE! malayman… tech/ expertise is available now… if proton can pay millions just to keep agusta alive… whats wrong then? cant they use the cash to buy it?

if proton can fool us into thinking campro so call Cam Profile timing A.K.A VTEC/VVTI when actually is not.. what more u want them to con us? i guess u know about it. so wise up man! ur not a kid anymorE!

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45816 topgunthang Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:09:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45816 malayman: ” …no money how to progress? wanna compare with long established giants that have been in the business for many many more years then proton for what? would it be fair to compare the brains of a small boy with that of a wise old man? ” --------------------------------------- yea i think malayman has got it all wrong. if proton wants to survive in the local car market and penetrate international car markets....to compete with established giants is exactly what it has to do. proton talks about exporting cars and not relying on gman and local 'support' and all the crap. what export is there actually. a few thousands economy cars around the world isnt anything. truth is, if you cant compete with even hyundai then there no point competing anymore. im sorry, but proton truelly cannot make a dent in hyundai's sales. and the news gets worse for proton with chinese cars on the rise. let alone every other jap and euro car company moving forward alot faster than proton. to catch up is virtually impossible. and somehow these MME special editions certainly dont stir the blood. but i agree they are definetly part of the old stock sitting for months in the grounds. special edition....you bet. malayman: ” …no money how to progress? wanna compare with long established giants that have been in the business for many many more years then proton for what? would it be fair to compare the brains of a small boy with that of a wise old man? ”

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yea i think malayman has got it all wrong. if proton wants to survive in the local car market and penetrate international car markets….to compete with established giants is exactly what it has to do. proton talks about exporting cars and not relying on gman and local 'support' and all the crap. what export is there actually. a few thousands economy cars around the world isnt anything. truth is, if you cant compete with even hyundai then there no point competing anymore.

im sorry, but proton truelly cannot make a dent in hyundai's sales. and the news gets worse for proton with chinese cars on the rise. let alone every other jap and euro car company moving forward alot faster than proton. to catch up is virtually impossible.

and somehow these MME special editions certainly dont stir the blood. but i agree they are definetly part of the old stock sitting for months in the grounds. special edition….you bet.

]]> By: V_NoZ http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45815 V_NoZ Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:06:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45815 topgunthang ... u said it was COST SAVINGS! have u ever thought what i just wrote below? Here is the scenario!...Assume that i got big stuff to carry and ur alone. Then suddenly u have no access to the both to place ur stuff. u have to open from inside before that u have to place ur stuff on the ground. u have to open the door and reach for the lever which is postion at the bottom of the seat placing urself in danger. At this time ur most likely get someone eyeing on u becoz its the best postion to attack. The driver maynot be able to notice any movement at the back which in turn the driver will most likely get robbed/raped/sodomised/molested. so my point here is since proton is gonna scrap a bloddy lock to RISK ur pricess life?? things happen in split second! would u risk ur life for it? 20 years and they dont have anyone there to think? its is not innovate .. this BS. well then ask those guy not to use a door lock, just use the tri-cycle lock and a latch to close their house doors and see what happens? save cost lah! BS topgunthang … u said it was COST SAVINGS! have u ever thought what i just wrote below?

Here is the scenario!…Assume that i got big stuff to carry and ur alone. Then suddenly u have no access to the both to place ur stuff. u have to open from inside before that u have to place ur stuff on the ground. u have to open the door and reach for the lever which is postion at the bottom of the seat placing urself in danger. At this time ur most likely get someone eyeing on u becoz its the best postion to attack. The driver maynot be able to notice any movement at the back which in turn the driver will most likely get robbed/raped/sodomised/molested.

so my point here is since proton is gonna scrap a bloddy lock to RISK ur pricess life?? things happen in split second! would u risk ur life for it? 20 years and they dont have anyone there to think? its is not innovate .. this BS.

well then ask those guy not to use a door lock, just use the tri-cycle lock and a latch to close their house doors and see what happens? save cost lah! BS

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45814 nizam80 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:04:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45814 I kind of liked the Waja MME. This Waja MME is based on the recent facelifted Waja, right guys? What i don't like is, the "W A J A" lettering at the rear boot which took the position of the Proton logo. I think, Proton should have kept the old position of the logo. Look at what they have done now: the Waja is missing the thundercat logo at the rear bonnet!!! I kind of liked the Waja MME. This Waja MME is based on the recent facelifted Waja, right guys? What i don't like is, the "W A J A" lettering at the rear boot which took the position of the Proton logo. I think, Proton should have kept the old position of the logo. Look at what they have done now: the Waja is missing the thundercat logo at the rear bonnet!!!

]]> By: OtakOtak http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45812 OtakOtak Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:57:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45812 Malayman - would it be fair to compare the brains of a small boy with that of a wise old man? ” OtakOtak - Huh ........, P1 at damn 22 year still small boy? The sad naked truth is this grown up P1 BIG boy can't think and behave like a wise old man! Talk about "limited edition". All P1, P2 and P3 do "nonsense" work to clear stock or increase sales rather than offer something "distinct product" based on existing products. "LIMITED EDITIONS" were used by them discriminately and arbitarily. In truth "limited addition spirit", it is normally apply to luxury and niche products like watches (Rado), Car (Rollroyce, Beemer, Mercs, Ferrari, etc), cloth (WSL), Shoes (Jimmy Choo), Coins (Bank Negara), etc. They normally launch "limited edition" to commemorate significant events in their company/nation or given recognition to some one contribute immersely to the soiety. Example gold coin issued by Bank Negara, Selangor Pewter launch limited endition products to celebrate CNY, etc. Do this R3 junk can link to such events or on what basis? Can it really be limited edition with merely "Ah Beng work" with certain cosmetic change/upgrade! What so special about this R3 junk compare to original product or in the car industry as a whole? This statement is not bashing on P1, P2 and P3 but look at the way they executed the so call "limited edition", give an impression want to clear stock/improve sales, or worst do something for the sake of doing it to show they do something, rather than geniously come out with something "special". Back to R3, with 1.6L engine, do they able to RACE at worldclass RALLY out of their junk RESEARCH? Can this black "orang minyak/black spider" Waja achieve same quality and technical performance with current benchmark, Mit EVO? If R3 can really do it, don't talk about selling RM66,671.03, they sell it at RM 166,671.03 (compare to top range EVO around RM 280K in Bolehland), then likely there are still takers out there? If really this "limited edition" is good, then send one unit for "American Idol" style of audition for "Fast & Furious, Tokyo Drift", then it will become subject of laughing! Really damn 22 year Big boy but small boy mentality! Performance - R3 - Really Ridiculous Ride! Malayman – would it be fair to compare the brains of a small boy with that of a wise old man? ”

OtakOtak – Huh …….., P1 at damn 22 year still small boy? The sad naked truth is this grown up P1 BIG boy can't think and behave like a wise old man!

Talk about "limited edition". All P1, P2 and P3 do "nonsense" work to clear stock or increase sales rather than offer something "distinct product" based on existing products. "LIMITED EDITIONS" were used by them discriminately and arbitarily.

In truth "limited addition spirit", it is normally apply to luxury and niche products like watches (Rado), Car (Rollroyce, Beemer, Mercs, Ferrari, etc), cloth (WSL), Shoes (Jimmy Choo), Coins (Bank Negara), etc. They normally launch "limited edition" to commemorate significant events in their company/nation or given recognition to some one contribute immersely to the soiety. Example gold coin issued by Bank Negara, Selangor Pewter launch limited endition products to celebrate CNY, etc. Do this R3 junk can link to such events or on what basis? Can it really be limited edition with merely "Ah Beng work" with certain cosmetic change/upgrade! What so special about this R3 junk compare to original product or in the car industry as a whole?

This statement is not bashing on P1, P2 and P3 but look at the way they executed the so call "limited edition", give an impression want to clear stock/improve sales, or worst do something for the sake of doing it to show they do something, rather than geniously come out with something "special". Back to R3, with 1.6L engine, do they able to RACE at worldclass RALLY out of their junk RESEARCH? Can this black "orang minyak/black spider" Waja achieve same quality and technical performance with current benchmark, Mit EVO? If R3 can really do it, don't talk about selling RM66,671.03, they sell it at RM 166,671.03 (compare to top range EVO around RM 280K in Bolehland), then likely there are still takers out there?

If really this "limited edition" is good, then send one unit for "American Idol" style of audition for "Fast & Furious, Tokyo Drift", then it will become subject of laughing! Really damn 22 year Big boy but small boy mentality! Performance – R3 – Really Ridiculous Ride!

]]> By: asimo http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45808 asimo Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:34:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45808 pi mai pi mai mcm tu jugak...... pi mai pi mai mcm tu jugak……

]]> By: cosmohybrid http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45806 cosmohybrid Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:14:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45806 malayman said, August 5, 2006 @ 8:32 am wanna compare with long established giants that have been in the business for many many more years then proton for what? would it be fair to compare the brains of a small boy with that of a wise old man? ------------------------------------------------------------------- its been more than 20 yrs my fren, with all the technologies, informations, equipments and infrastuctures easily made available around us, times are changing, we must learn how to innovate fast to become competitive... kids as young as 5 years old are fluent with using the computers nowadays... like i said before, old habits are difficult to change especially with all the privilege they have been getting all this while, and its dwindling them faster than ever... in order to get the biz goin, well, that is why all these SE, MME, R3 series is coming out for the sake of clearing off their parking lot... and everytime these series sells well they will come out with another version... the irony is, there is a certain huge market for it... with this kind of mindset, how far they can go....? :) malayman said,

August 5, 2006 @ 8:32 am

wanna compare with long established giants that have been in the business for many many more years then proton for what? would it be fair to compare the brains of a small boy with that of a wise old man?

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its been more than 20 yrs my fren, with all the technologies, informations, equipments and infrastuctures easily made available around us, times are changing, we must learn how to innovate fast to become competitive… kids as young as 5 years old are fluent with using the computers nowadays…

like i said before, old habits are difficult to change especially with all the privilege they have been getting all this while, and its dwindling them faster than ever…

in order to get the biz goin, well, that is why all these SE, MME, R3 series is coming out for the sake of clearing off their parking lot… and everytime these series sells well they will come out with another version… the irony is, there is a certain huge market for it…

with this kind of mindset, how far they can go….? :)

]]> By: aesthari http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45805 aesthari Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:44:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45805 Haha, Proton is at it again, pulling the limited edition, special edition, exclusive edition n now MME trick on it's cars and hoping buyers will bite the bait. They will bite, no doubt about it. I actually like how the MME Gen.2 looks but the thought of quality is just a great turn-off. Haha, Proton is at it again, pulling the limited edition, special edition, exclusive edition n now MME trick on it's cars and hoping buyers will bite the bait. They will bite, no doubt about it. I actually like how the MME Gen.2 looks but the thought of quality is just a great turn-off.

]]> By: hazremi http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45804 hazremi Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:39:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45804 the sports rim rocks man,i must find that kind of sports rim the sports rim rocks man,i must find that kind of sports rim

]]> By: NoToLowQuality http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45803 NoToLowQuality Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:22:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45803 malayman : "if you keep calling the little boy stupid, how is he going to grow to be a wise old man?" = stupid thinking so if we call proton very clever and smart for 22 years, is he going to growe to be a wise old man? The rakyat have given everything they can for Proton for the last 22 years and now.. we still got the stupid quality problem. ok la... proton very smart la.. taking NAP. senang lenang... malayman : "if you keep calling the little boy stupid, how is he going to grow to be a wise old man?" = stupid thinking

so if we call proton very clever and smart for 22 years, is he going to growe to be a wise old man?

The rakyat have given everything they can for Proton for the last 22 years and now.. we still got the stupid quality problem. ok la… proton very smart la.. taking NAP. senang lenang…

]]> By: stanleyshyeoh http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45801 stanleyshyeoh Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:48:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45801 malayman: "aiyoyoyoooo…..if like this means how la? u ppl want good stuff from proton..but kutuk kau kau..then say their sales pitch is lame…fren..think la?" Can't agree. Sorry. I speak for myself when I critisize hoping to get better quality and value in a car, or anything else a matter of fact. ( I admit, Proton took away all that the day it was born and I am a biased bitter anti-Proton bigot eversince) malayman: " ...no money how to progress? wanna compare with long established giants that have been in the business for many many more years then proton for what? would it be fair to compare the brains of a small boy with that of a wise old man? " I agree. To a certain extent. Then again, can we compare Proton to Hyundai? malayman: "aiyoooo malaysians still got lots of problems with themselves la i think….sad sad" Talk about it! I certainly wouldn't want the added burden of expensive but lousy cars. malayman: "aiyoyoyoooo…..if like this means how la?

u ppl want good stuff from proton..but kutuk kau kau..then say their sales pitch is lame…fren..think la?"

Can't agree. Sorry. I speak for myself when I critisize hoping to get better quality and value in a car, or anything else a matter of fact. ( I admit, Proton took away all that the day it was born and I am a biased bitter anti-Proton bigot eversince)

malayman: " …no money how to progress? wanna compare with long established giants that have been in the business for many many more years then proton for what? would it be fair to compare the brains of a small boy with that of a wise old man? "

I agree. To a certain extent. Then again, can we compare Proton to Hyundai?

malayman: "aiyoooo malaysians still got lots of problems with themselves la i think….sad sad"

Talk about it! I certainly wouldn't want the added burden of expensive but lousy cars.

]]> By: Proton Waja MME and Proton GEN.2 MME Photos http://paultan.org/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45823 Proton Waja MME and Proton GEN.2 MME Photos Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:24:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/04/proton-waja-mme-and-proton-gen2-mme/#comment-45823 [...] Credits to Suanie and her funky twisty camwhore camera. That’s about it for now. The Proton Waja MME 1.6 manual costs RM66,671.03 while the Proton GEN.2 MME 1.6 manual costs RM59,789.81. For other details please check my previous post, Proton Waja MME and Proton GEN.2 MME. [...] [...] Credits to Suanie and her funky twisty camwhore camera. That’s about it for now. The Proton Waja MME 1.6 manual costs RM66,671.03 while the Proton GEN.2 MME 1.6 manual costs RM59,789.81. For other details please check my previous post, Proton Waja MME and Proton GEN.2 MME. [...]

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