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	<title>Comments on: How does Variable Turbine Geometry work?</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen Kramer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-643979</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Kramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former VNT turbocharger development engineer, please allow me to explain the effect of the angle of the VNT vanes on engine performance.

Take the situation where the engine is running at a steady speed and torque, and the vanes are then quickly rotated to a more closed position.  The following steps describe the immediate transient effects in sequence:

1. The minimum flow area of the vane channels decreases by a large amount (say, 1/2 the original area) as the vane angle is made more shallow.

2. Immediately after changing the vane angle, the exhaust mass flow rate through the reduced area VNT vane channels does not change significantly, due to increase of the exhaust gas density and velocity.  Exhaust gas density is increased due to increased exhaust manifold pressure, and gas velocity is increased by gas acceleration in the vane channels.  

3. Increased exhaust gas acceleration in the vane channels is due to the increase of pressure gradient caused by increased exhaust manifold pressure.    

4. The pressure in the exhaust manifold increases because the cylinders continue to empty into the exhaust manifold at nearly the same mass flow rate.  The exhaust mass flow rate out of the cylinders is reduced slightly due to the increased density of residual gas in the cylinder displacing some air on the intake stroke.

5. The exhaust manifold gas pressure, temperature, and energy density are increased due to the increase of piston pumping work during the exhaust stroke.  Piston pumping work significantly affects the engine power output, and is also affected by pressure during the intake stroke.

6. The exhaust manifold takes time to accumulate the additional mass of exhaust gas that increases the exhaust manifold pressure.  Exhaust manifold pressure is typically higher than the intake manifold boost pressure at most conditions.

7. The exhaust gas accelerates through the VNT vane channels due to the VNT vane channel geometry (decreasing in area like a nozzle) and due to the increased energy density in the exhaust flow provided from the exhaust manifold (being at at higher pressure and temperature).  However - the process of the gas flowing into the turbine wheel at possibly over Mach 1 (1600 mph or 2300 ft/s, @ 1600F - that&#039;s as fast as a bullet!) is not a significant contributor to the generation of torque on the turbine wheel, as the wheel blade tip speed is similar to the gas speed.

8.  The pressure of the gas exiting the VNT vanes is typically not far above atmospheric pressure.  As the gas flows into the turbine wheel channels, the turbine wheel blades turn the flow to be at an angle to the rotational axis opposite to the entry angle and also act as nozzles.  This process results in most of the torque generated by the turbine wheel.

9.  The increased turbine wheel torque causes the turbocharger rotor group to accelerate, and the compressor wheel speed increases on the intake side.  Increased compressor speed results in increased intake manifold boost pressure.  Engine intake airflow increases due to the increased manifold boost pressure.  Fuel is increased to maintain A/F ratio and the engine power output begins to increases.  

10.  On the exhaust side, increased exhaust flow into the exhaust manifold results in a further increase of exhaust manifold pressure and temperature and therefore energy available to the turbine.  Energy feedback is obtained causing further increase of the rotor speed until the power developed by the turbine balances the power absorbed by the compressor and bearings.  The turbocharger speed can be over 200,000 rpm (3300Hz) for a small displacement automotive engine.

11.  When the rotor power is balanced, the engine operates at a higher state of intake and exhaust manifold pressure and engine airflow and consequently power output, depending on how the throttle is operated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former VNT turbocharger development engineer, please allow me to explain the effect of the angle of the VNT vanes on engine performance.</p>
<p>Take the situation where the engine is running at a steady speed and torque, and the vanes are then quickly rotated to a more closed position.  The following steps describe the immediate transient effects in sequence:</p>
<p>1. The minimum flow area of the vane channels decreases by a large amount (say, 1/2 the original area) as the vane angle is made more shallow.</p>
<p>2. Immediately after changing the vane angle, the exhaust mass flow rate through the reduced area VNT vane channels does not change significantly, due to increase of the exhaust gas density and velocity.  Exhaust gas density is increased due to increased exhaust manifold pressure, and gas velocity is increased by gas acceleration in the vane channels.  </p>
<p>3. Increased exhaust gas acceleration in the vane channels is due to the increase of pressure gradient caused by increased exhaust manifold pressure.    </p>
<p>4. The pressure in the exhaust manifold increases because the cylinders continue to empty into the exhaust manifold at nearly the same mass flow rate.  The exhaust mass flow rate out of the cylinders is reduced slightly due to the increased density of residual gas in the cylinder displacing some air on the intake stroke.</p>
<p>5. The exhaust manifold gas pressure, temperature, and energy density are increased due to the increase of piston pumping work during the exhaust stroke.  Piston pumping work significantly affects the engine power output, and is also affected by pressure during the intake stroke.</p>
<p>6. The exhaust manifold takes time to accumulate the additional mass of exhaust gas that increases the exhaust manifold pressure.  Exhaust manifold pressure is typically higher than the intake manifold boost pressure at most conditions.</p>
<p>7. The exhaust gas accelerates through the VNT vane channels due to the VNT vane channel geometry (decreasing in area like a nozzle) and due to the increased energy density in the exhaust flow provided from the exhaust manifold (being at at higher pressure and temperature).  However &#8211; the process of the gas flowing into the turbine wheel at possibly over Mach 1 (1600 mph or 2300 ft/s, @ 1600F &#8211; that&#8217;s as fast as a bullet!) is not a significant contributor to the generation of torque on the turbine wheel, as the wheel blade tip speed is similar to the gas speed.</p>
<p>8.  The pressure of the gas exiting the VNT vanes is typically not far above atmospheric pressure.  As the gas flows into the turbine wheel channels, the turbine wheel blades turn the flow to be at an angle to the rotational axis opposite to the entry angle and also act as nozzles.  This process results in most of the torque generated by the turbine wheel.</p>
<p>9.  The increased turbine wheel torque causes the turbocharger rotor group to accelerate, and the compressor wheel speed increases on the intake side.  Increased compressor speed results in increased intake manifold boost pressure.  Engine intake airflow increases due to the increased manifold boost pressure.  Fuel is increased to maintain A/F ratio and the engine power output begins to increases.  </p>
<p>10.  On the exhaust side, increased exhaust flow into the exhaust manifold results in a further increase of exhaust manifold pressure and temperature and therefore energy available to the turbine.  Energy feedback is obtained causing further increase of the rotor speed until the power developed by the turbine balances the power absorbed by the compressor and bearings.  The turbocharger speed can be over 200,000 rpm (3300Hz) for a small displacement automotive engine.</p>
<p>11.  When the rotor power is balanced, the engine operates at a higher state of intake and exhaust manifold pressure and engine airflow and consequently power output, depending on how the throttle is operated.</p>
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		<title>By: hossam</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-642721</link>
		<dc:creator>hossam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my question:
VGT turbocharger system has variable pressure or variable speed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my question:<br />
VGT turbocharger system has variable pressure or variable speed?</p>
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		<title>By: shalu janardhan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-488719</link>
		<dc:creator>shalu janardhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful explanation of VGT......I have never see such detailed explanation...thanks:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful explanation of VGT&#8230;&#8230;I have never see such detailed explanation&#8230;thanks:)</p>
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		<title>By: logesh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-449694</link>
		<dc:creator>logesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no</description>
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		<title>By: Bevan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-407024</link>
		<dc:creator>Bevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 08:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent Paul! a nice read, very desciptive and illustrative</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent Paul! a nice read, very desciptive and illustrative</p>
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		<title>By: jay spanjers</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-353764</link>
		<dc:creator>jay spanjers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>code 2383 curent below normal or open
           2387 vgt activator driver circuit (motor)mechanical system not responding or out of adjustment
           2388 vgt actuator position failed automatic calibration procedure-out of calibration
           9122 vgt actuator over temperature (calculated) data valid but above normal operating range- least severe
            2963 engine coolant temperature high-data valid but above normal operationg range least severe level

              What to check after visual checking wires and fuses both apear ok
             where to get electric dignostic tree information.  I hope to trouble shoot this issue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>code 2383 curent below normal or open<br />
           2387 vgt activator driver circuit (motor)mechanical system not responding or out of adjustment<br />
           2388 vgt actuator position failed automatic calibration procedure-out of calibration<br />
           9122 vgt actuator over temperature (calculated) data valid but above normal operating range- least severe<br />
            2963 engine coolant temperature high-data valid but above normal operationg range least severe level</p>
<p>              What to check after visual checking wires and fuses both apear ok<br />
             where to get electric dignostic tree information.  I hope to trouble shoot this issue</p>
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		<title>By: shafiul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-342578</link>
		<dc:creator>shafiul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats great,we have two vtg in two engines of rolls royce.but one is manual and other is automatic/digital.so i need some kind of manual or instruction for this do you help me ya??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats great,we have two vtg in two engines of rolls royce.but one is manual and other is automatic/digital.so i need some kind of manual or instruction for this do you help me ya??</p>
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		<title>By: Priyadarshan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-332761</link>
		<dc:creator>Priyadarshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 11:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any difference between VGT and VTT,
As per my understanding of VGT is that there will be movable vanes near turbine which can minimise or maximise gas flow onto the turbine.

Where as in VTT I&#039;m told that turbine blades are movable.

Please Clarify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any difference between VGT and VTT,<br />
As per my understanding of VGT is that there will be movable vanes near turbine which can minimise or maximise gas flow onto the turbine.</p>
<p>Where as in VTT I&#8217;m told that turbine blades are movable.</p>
<p>Please Clarify.</p>
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		<title>By: MAK MANGADE</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-318311</link>
		<dc:creator>MAK MANGADE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>itsss amaizing.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>itsss amaizing&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ScottKit aircraft</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-295449</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottKit aircraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VGT and wastegates are thoughtless .  
  My Honda B18b aircraft engines retard intake camshaft to  
dynamically lower the  compression ratio . This precisely controls 
Turbo boost , at all altitudes .   
    Its an amplified effect , a slight retard of camshaft will drop boost quickly . 
 On takeoff , at 200 HP / 7500 rpm , a 5 degree retard will drop 
H.P. to 170 . </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VGT and wastegates are thoughtless . </p>
<p>  My Honda B18b aircraft engines retard intake camshaft to </p>
<p>dynamically lower the  compression ratio . This precisely controls</p>
<p>Turbo boost , at all altitudes .  </p>
<p>    Its an amplified effect , a slight retard of camshaft will drop boost quickly .</p>
<p> On takeoff , at 200 HP / 7500 rpm , a 5 degree retard will drop</p>
<p>H.P. to 170 . </p>
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		<title>By: carenyoso</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-281182</link>
		<dc:creator>carenyoso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ride has VGT technology, powerfull compared to its rivals without. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ride has VGT technology, powerfull compared to its rivals without. </p>
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		<title>By: BALAJI</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-256612</link>
		<dc:creator>BALAJI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U can include some animation figures that shows how this vanes work...... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U can include some animation figures that shows how this vanes work&#8230;&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: PNH</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-227510</link>
		<dc:creator>PNH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent staightforward explaination even for an absolute novice to turbocharger technology. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent staightforward explaination even for an absolute novice to turbocharger technology. </p>
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		<title>By: Abhijit Sengupta</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-218943</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhijit Sengupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! That&#039;s a real-time, concise even fully-functionally-described piece of work. 
 
Thanks a ton, Paul </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! That&#039;s a real-time, concise even fully-functionally-described piece of work.</p>
<p>Thanks a ton, Paul </p>
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		<title>By: bharat</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-216176</link>
		<dc:creator>bharat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this technology rocks dude!!!!!! can i get technical papers on vtg and r2s systems? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this technology rocks dude!!!!!! can i get technical papers on vtg and r2s systems? </p>
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		<title>By: yovitadiah</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-81138</link>
		<dc:creator>yovitadiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 12:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Twincharger is made of; Combining Supercharger and Turbocharger by cuopling them with FREEWHEEL gear transmision. It is like a bicycle, in low RPM, power is get from pedal (SC). But when riding down hill, when wheel is faster, the pedal can be free. So asume wheel is a TC, it powered wihout drag from SC anymore to the engine. Is it going to work?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://yovitadiah.bravehost.com/TWINCHARGER_FREEWHEEL.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://yovitadiah.bravehost.com/TWINCHARGER_FREEW...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Twincharger is made of; Combining Supercharger and Turbocharger by cuopling them with FREEWHEEL gear transmision. It is like a bicycle, in low RPM, power is get from pedal (SC). But when riding down hill, when wheel is faster, the pedal can be free. So asume wheel is a TC, it powered wihout drag from SC anymore to the engine. Is it going to work?<br />
  <a href="http://yovitadiah.bravehost.com/TWINCHARGER_FREEWHEEL.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://yovitadiah.bravehost.com/TWINCHARGER_FREEW" rel="nofollow">http://yovitadiah.bravehost.com/TWINCHARGER_FREEW</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: New Ford Ranger with 5-speed auto in Thailand</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-57340</link>
		<dc:creator>New Ford Ranger with 5-speed auto in Thailand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The 2.5 liter Duratorq engine is a DOHC 16-valve turbodiesel unit, featuring Bosch common rail direct fuel injection and a variable geometry turbocharger. It makes 141hp and 330Nm of torque, up from the current Ranger available in our market&#8217;s 2.5 liter SOHC indirect injection turbodiesel which makes 121hp and 262Nm of torque. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The 2.5 liter Duratorq engine is a DOHC 16-valve turbodiesel unit, featuring Bosch common rail direct fuel injection and a variable geometry turbocharger. It makes 141hp and 330Nm of torque, up from the current Ranger available in our market&#8217;s 2.5 liter SOHC indirect injection turbodiesel which makes 121hp and 262Nm of torque. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 2006 Paris Motor Show: 2007 Kia Magentis</title>
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		<dc:creator>2006 Paris Motor Show: 2007 Kia Magentis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 08:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This particular model shown is a turbodiesel model, which can be identified by the CRDi badge on the boot - a 2.0 liter CRDi with a Variable Geometry Turbocharger, similiar to the one found in the Porsche 911 Turbo. Of course, VGT has been around in turbodiesels for quite some time already. Performance stats are 138hp at 4,000rpm and 305Nm of torque between 1,800rpm to 2,500rpm. The turbodiesel is also equipped with a Diesel Particulate Filter for better emissions. If you prefer petrol, the UK market has a 2.0 I4 CVVT and 2.7 liter V6, but in other markets there is also a 2.4 liter I4 CVVT. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This particular model shown is a turbodiesel model, which can be identified by the CRDi badge on the boot &#8211; a 2.0 liter CRDi with a Variable Geometry Turbocharger, similiar to the one found in the Porsche 911 Turbo. Of course, VGT has been around in turbodiesels for quite some time already. Performance stats are 138hp at 4,000rpm and 305Nm of torque between 1,800rpm to 2,500rpm. The turbodiesel is also equipped with a Diesel Particulate Filter for better emissions. If you prefer petrol, the UK market has a 2.0 I4 CVVT and 2.7 liter V6, but in other markets there is also a 2.4 liter I4 CVVT. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo (997)</title>
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		<dc:creator>2007 Porsche 911 Turbo (997)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The new Porsche 997 Turbo&#8217;s main highlight is the new engine that comes with Variable Turbine Geometry. The 3.6 liter flat-6 engine is twin turbocharged with two VGT turbines on each bank of cylinders, as well as two intercoolers. The result is 480hp at at 6,000rpm and 620Nm of torque between 1,950rpm to 5,000rpm. Fantastic torque curve. For more information on how VGT works, check out my previous blog post &#8220;How Does Variable Turbine Geometry work?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The new Porsche 997 Turbo&#8217;s main highlight is the new engine that comes with Variable Turbine Geometry. The 3.6 liter flat-6 engine is twin turbocharged with two VGT turbines on each bank of cylinders, as well as two intercoolers. The result is 480hp at at 6,000rpm and 620Nm of torque between 1,950rpm to 5,000rpm. Fantastic torque curve. For more information on how VGT works, check out my previous blog post &#8220;How Does Variable Turbine Geometry work?&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: neurra</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47393</link>
		<dc:creator>neurra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;VTG, VNT, VATN are all the same thing like how VVTi, Vanos, CVTC, DVVT or whatever you want to call it.&quot; 
- u wanna rectify ur phrase or sumthin? variable valve timing and variable turbo are totally different parts.. 
 
btw paul, this is an essential info to me.. thanx a lot.. wanted to know how it works since the 911 debut.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;VTG, VNT, VATN are all the same thing like how VVTi, Vanos, CVTC, DVVT or whatever you want to call it.&quot;</p>
<p>- u wanna rectify ur phrase or sumthin? variable valve timing and variable turbo are totally different parts..</p>
<p>btw paul, this is an essential info to me.. thanx a lot.. wanted to know how it works since the 911 debut.. </p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47227</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorento ? 
fuyo , da koreans is tryin sth new long time ago . </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorento ?</p>
<p>fuyo , da koreans is tryin sth new long time ago . </p>
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		<title>By: sarawakguy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47212</link>
		<dc:creator>sarawakguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant just imagine if I can just fix one of this tech into my sisters Kancils... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant just imagine if I can just fix one of this tech into my sisters Kancils&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: racelogic</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47206</link>
		<dc:creator>racelogic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chysler has used VNT [variable nozzle technology] turbo in th 90s. Porsche is not the first.  
 
Germans talk crap. VW is showing off everyone that they made a supercharged turbo engine for their polo but in fact Nissan did that in 1989 in their Nissan March using K10 engine.  
 
VTG, VNT, VATN are all the same thing like how VVTi, Vanos, CVTC, DVVT or whatever you want to call it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chysler has used VNT [variable nozzle technology] turbo in th 90s. Porsche is not the first. </p>
<p>Germans talk crap. VW is showing off everyone that they made a supercharged turbo engine for their polo but in fact Nissan did that in 1989 in their Nissan March using K10 engine. </p>
<p>VTG, VNT, VATN are all the same thing like how VVTi, Vanos, CVTC, DVVT or whatever you want to call it. </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47173</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SatriaGuy: actually VTG has been on turbodiesels since the 1990s, the Sorento VTG is a turbodiesel. this is the first VTG on a mass production petrol car. 
 
there has been VTG petrol powered cars before this, but in limited runs like 500 units. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SatriaGuy: actually VTG has been on turbodiesels since the 1990s, the Sorento VTG is a turbodiesel. this is the first VTG on a mass production petrol car.</p>
<p>there has been VTG petrol powered cars before this, but in limited runs like 500 units. </p>
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		<title>By: SatriaGuy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47170</link>
		<dc:creator>SatriaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VTG technology debuts in the new 911 Turbo. Wonder where you get link to such info Paul?  
 
Anyway, its great of you to illustrate what Porsche(or Borgwarner) have done to the turbocharger. If you look at how it works, it is actually almost commonsense way to wring out more energy from the turbocharger and in fact it has been used for some time now in aerospace but only now Porsche has managed to introduce it in the 911.  
 
So, no, I don&#039;t think it is present in any other car, particularly in a Sorento! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VTG technology debuts in the new 911 Turbo. Wonder where you get link to such info Paul? </p>
<p>Anyway, its great of you to illustrate what Porsche(or Borgwarner) have done to the turbocharger. If you look at how it works, it is actually almost commonsense way to wring out more energy from the turbocharger and in fact it has been used for some time now in aerospace but only now Porsche has managed to introduce it in the 911. </p>
<p>So, no, I don&#039;t think it is present in any other car, particularly in a Sorento! </p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47165</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>icic </description>
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		<title>By: waimak</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47150</link>
		<dc:creator>waimak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great info Paul! </description>
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		<title>By: tbcheese</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47125</link>
		<dc:creator>tbcheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh looks like I made a mistake about the gas recirculation. nvm that. 
 
Paul it seems that the excess boost is controlled by the vanes. My guess is that once the engine speed drops the vanes are kept wide open so the turbine spins more slowly. Then the vanes close base to assume low rpm profile. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22873&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
there&#039;s a nice gif animation of vtg in action here. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh looks like I made a mistake about the gas recirculation. nvm that.</p>
<p>Paul it seems that the excess boost is controlled by the vanes. My guess is that once the engine speed drops the vanes are kept wide open so the turbine spins more slowly. Then the vanes close base to assume low rpm profile.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22873" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=" rel="nofollow">http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=</a>&#8230;  </p>
<p>there&#039;s a nice gif animation of vtg in action here. </p>
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		<title>By: Chapree Da Grande</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47118</link>
		<dc:creator>Chapree Da Grande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be very very very expensive due to the space technology material. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be very very very expensive due to the space technology material. </p>
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		<title>By: xXx</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/how-does-variable-turbine-geometry-work/#comment-47115</link>
		<dc:creator>xXx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if i&#039;m not mistaken also those little vanes from the VGT has some sort of ceramic coating.  
These dudes are mental...... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if i&#039;m not mistaken also those little vanes from the VGT has some sort of ceramic coating. </p>
<p>These dudes are mental&#8230;&#8230; </p>
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