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	<title>Comments on: LMG Tourer Details</title>
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		<title>By: mzm2169</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-85718</link>
		<dc:creator>mzm2169</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 13:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi..all,
Despite of all kind +ve &amp; -ve comments, i&#039;m so excited to view myself the lmg cars especially with the proudly hydroxene local tech. As a local mech eng, I experienced some m&#039;sian eng even smarter than &#039;mat salleh&#039; to solve eng problem but because of our mind-set...we are always under estimate m&#039;sian genius. Remember Zul??..no matter how good his invention..not many people appreciate and interested to help him to commercialize it!?  I might to take risk to be one of the lmg owner by considering to buy the car!....Provided its technically satisfied me upon viewing and test drive it.
Paul, I&#039;ve been searching the LMG Edaran address or contact no of Penang distributor but not manage to get it. Can you help me...?

TQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi..all,<br />
Despite of all kind +ve &amp; -ve comments, i&#8217;m so excited to view myself the lmg cars especially with the proudly hydroxene local tech. As a local mech eng, I experienced some m&#8217;sian eng even smarter than &#8216;mat salleh&#8217; to solve eng problem but because of our mind-set&#8230;we are always under estimate m&#8217;sian genius. Remember Zul??..no matter how good his invention..not many people appreciate and interested to help him to commercialize it!?  I might to take risk to be one of the lmg owner by considering to buy the car!&#8230;.Provided its technically satisfied me upon viewing and test drive it.<br />
Paul, I&#8217;ve been searching the LMG Edaran address or contact no of Penang distributor but not manage to get it. Can you help me&#8230;?</p>
<p>TQ</p>
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		<title>By: LMG to display cars at 2006 Oman Motor Show</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-51342</link>
		<dc:creator>LMG to display cars at 2006 Oman Motor Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For those who are out of the loop, LMG recently launched two new cars in Malaysia - the LMG Tourer and the LMG Trekker. Both are powered by a hybrid combination of a Mitsubishi 2.4 liter SOHC engine combined with a hydrogen injection system that they call Hydroxene, which creates hydrogene from water. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For those who are out of the loop, LMG recently launched two new cars in Malaysia &#8211; the LMG Tourer and the LMG Trekker. Both are powered by a hybrid combination of a Mitsubishi 2.4 liter SOHC engine combined with a hydrogen injection system that they call Hydroxene, which creates hydrogene from water. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ted75</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-51314</link>
		<dc:creator>ted75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their website lmautoworld.com status still under construction . How to be a world class vehicle producer if they can&#039;t even configure their own website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their website lmautoworld.com status still under construction . How to be a world class vehicle producer if they can&#8217;t even configure their own website?</p>
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		<title>By: mkea2000</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-51169</link>
		<dc:creator>mkea2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ellenn,

thought u know the 49 showrooms. nothin in newspaper about the lmg on 15th sept?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ellenn,</p>
<p>thought u know the 49 showrooms. nothin in newspaper about the lmg on 15th sept?</p>
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		<title>By: ellenn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-51151</link>
		<dc:creator>ellenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone knows where is the showroom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone knows where is the showroom?</p>
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		<title>By: osh_kosh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-48339</link>
		<dc:creator>osh_kosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 05:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well my boy.. who said anything about buying one? i said i&#039;m interested only.. anyway i still got that landcruiser to move around rought terrain ma.. r u crazy to buy 2 SUV&#039;s? a sedan for long distance, a small car for urban driving &amp; a SUV for site visit ma.. that&#039;s perfect.. why don&#039;t u buy one &amp; give me a ride.. anyway, what is 60k to u ma? haha :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well my boy.. who said anything about buying one? i said i&#8217;m interested only.. anyway i still got that landcruiser to move around rought terrain ma.. r u crazy to buy 2 SUV&#8217;s? a sedan for long distance, a small car for urban driving &amp; a SUV for site visit ma.. that&#8217;s perfect.. why don&#8217;t u buy one &amp; give me a ride.. anyway, what is 60k to u ma? haha <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-48288</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>osh_kosh, how is your plan to buy the LMG? Anything let me know K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>osh_kosh, how is your plan to buy the LMG? Anything let me know K.</p>
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		<title>By: ellenn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-48087</link>
		<dc:creator>ellenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>osh kosh,

this LMG will be opened for buyers this 15th of september. there&#039;s 49 showroom through out the country. see it to appreciate, ok.

well, i dont know. i&#039;ll just wait for one of my car to finish the installment, then only can buy this Tourer. one bye one la....

u guys know what, i used to drive this one model of toyota, Toyota Prius when i was in the usa. it&#039;s a hybrid car with petrol and electric. it saves petrol more than 50% and the engine power is not bad. u could hardly hear the sound of the engine when u stand beside the car.

p/s- petrol car use petrol 30mpg (mile per gallon), but Prius us petrol only 60mpg. and that&#039;s the fact.

developed country like usa and uk has many models of hybrid sedan. it&#039;s time for malaysia to have one. let&#039;s support malaysians product.

merdeka!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>osh kosh,</p>
<p>this LMG will be opened for buyers this 15th of september. there&#8217;s 49 showroom through out the country. see it to appreciate, ok.</p>
<p>well, i dont know. i&#8217;ll just wait for one of my car to finish the installment, then only can buy this Tourer. one bye one la&#8230;.</p>
<p>u guys know what, i used to drive this one model of toyota, Toyota Prius when i was in the usa. it&#8217;s a hybrid car with petrol and electric. it saves petrol more than 50% and the engine power is not bad. u could hardly hear the sound of the engine when u stand beside the car.</p>
<p>p/s- petrol car use petrol 30mpg (mile per gallon), but Prius us petrol only 60mpg. and that&#8217;s the fact.</p>
<p>developed country like usa and uk has many models of hybrid sedan. it&#8217;s time for malaysia to have one. let&#8217;s support malaysians product.</p>
<p>merdeka!!</p>
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		<title>By: osh_kosh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-48036</link>
		<dc:creator>osh_kosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 03:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yosh my boy,
 i&#039;m gud2.. beri2 gud haha.. wassup man? kindda busy lately huh? miss those gud old time :)
owh ellenn.. what&#039;s on sept 15? LMG test drive? where? about those protons of your.. if i&#039;m not mistaken the 2nd hand car value goes down like hell ek? but u can always check your car value with those 2nd hand car supplier ma... but i think the value still low lah.. why not u just buy another car insteed of change it? can always give to yer little sis/bro the old ones ma...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yosh my boy,<br />
 i&#8217;m gud2.. beri2 gud haha.. wassup man? kindda busy lately huh? miss those gud old time <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
owh ellenn.. what&#8217;s on sept 15? LMG test drive? where? about those protons of your.. if i&#8217;m not mistaken the 2nd hand car value goes down like hell ek? but u can always check your car value with those 2nd hand car supplier ma&#8230; but i think the value still low lah.. why not u just buy another car insteed of change it? can always give to yer little sis/bro the old ones ma&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ellenn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-48018</link>
		<dc:creator>ellenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 00:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t wait till 15 Sept. gonna rush there first. 
but one problem is, what about my wira? and my waja?
any opinion anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t wait till 15 Sept. gonna rush there first.<br />
but one problem is, what about my wira? and my waja?<br />
any opinion anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: sarawakguy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-48014</link>
		<dc:creator>sarawakguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone seen or have any spyshots of these news LMGs aaaa?Paul,can have more pix of these 2 new &quot;wonder&quot; LMGs kaaa?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone seen or have any spyshots of these news LMGs aaaa?Paul,can have more pix of these 2 new &#8220;wonder&#8221; LMGs kaaa?</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47957</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;dannytay_76,

Heater coil - technically is used in diesel engines to combust fuel&quot;


Glow plug is for diesel engine start-up (In cold weather). The engine itself is ignited by compression (remember, diesel engine has the higher compression ratio), thats why they called it compression ingnition engine. The word &quot;compression&quot; is there for a reason.


Hi osh_kosh. How do you do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;dannytay_76,</p>
<p>Heater coil &#8211; technically is used in diesel engines to combust fuel&#8221;</p>
<p>Glow plug is for diesel engine start-up (In cold weather). The engine itself is ignited by compression (remember, diesel engine has the higher compression ratio), thats why they called it compression ingnition engine. The word &#8220;compression&#8221; is there for a reason.</p>
<p>Hi osh_kosh. How do you do?</p>
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		<title>By: ellenn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47924</link>
		<dc:creator>ellenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes osh kosh,

i think i should just wait abit longer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes osh kosh,</p>
<p>i think i should just wait abit longer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: osh_kosh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47899</link>
		<dc:creator>osh_kosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well &quot;Asking only&quot;, i&#039;m too wonder what happen to those website? so slow...
and ellenn...
 forgive me, i know u ask dannytay but my advise is better wait a little bit longer &amp; see if the feedback from other buyers r the +ve ones.. then up to u to decide.. unless u want to be a guinea pig, u can just order it now... then its a great chance 4 all the guys here (including me) to hear the feedback from u :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well &#8220;Asking only&#8221;, i&#8217;m too wonder what happen to those website? so slow&#8230;<br />
and ellenn&#8230;<br />
 forgive me, i know u ask dannytay but my advise is better wait a little bit longer &amp; see if the feedback from other buyers r the +ve ones.. then up to u to decide.. unless u want to be a guinea pig, u can just order it now&#8230; then its a great chance 4 all the guys here (including me) to hear the feedback from u <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ellenn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47885</link>
		<dc:creator>ellenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 04:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i feel like buying one. auto transmission la of course.
dannytay, u reccommend me to buy or not??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i feel like buying one. auto transmission la of course.<br />
dannytay, u reccommend me to buy or not??</p>
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		<title>By: Asking only</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47873</link>
		<dc:creator>Asking only</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way, this fellas all say very good and all but already 1 week now and the website also never comeup yet.......still work in progress.......apa laa ini</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way, this fellas all say very good and all but already 1 week now and the website also never comeup yet&#8230;&#8230;.still work in progress&#8230;&#8230;.apa laa ini</p>
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		<title>By: osh_kosh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47743</link>
		<dc:creator>osh_kosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yo las.. wait &amp; see first ma :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yo las.. wait &amp; see first ma <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: burp</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47713</link>
		<dc:creator>burp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>furthermore.. look at the cosmetic change, not bad loh</description>
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		<title>By: burp</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47700</link>
		<dc:creator>burp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why so much noisy lorrr? just wait and see laaa.. instead, the price is worthy with the new technology and 52% of the vehicle parts are made by local. Can see the diffrence between original car in dadi website and the launched car in Malaysia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why so much noisy lorrr? just wait and see laaa.. instead, the price is worthy with the new technology and 52% of the vehicle parts are made by local. Can see the diffrence between original car in dadi website and the launched car in Malaysia</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47622</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why my posting about Diesel engine cannot comeout? Only the post that i quote appear in that posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why my posting about Diesel engine cannot comeout? Only the post that i quote appear in that posting.</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47621</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;---dannytay_76,

Heater coil - technically is used in diesel engines to combust fuel.---</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8212;dannytay_76,</p>
<p>Heater coil &#8211; technically is used in diesel engines to combust fuel.&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: osh_kosh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47619</link>
		<dc:creator>osh_kosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well my boy... i&#039;ve leave it for u to answer mr dannytay questions.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well my boy&#8230; i&#8217;ve leave it for u to answer mr dannytay questions.. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dannytay_76</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47617</link>
		<dc:creator>dannytay_76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MyBoy, 

Well, my oversight since i;ve always linked big cars like this to diesel. How could one afford to go off-road on a petrol powered vehicle. There&#039;s just not enough torque to go around. Anyway, the H2 point still does not deviate. 

Heater coil - technically is used in diesel engines to combust fuel. 

Genereate H2 as engine runs, well as i mentioend in Point 5, how much volume of H2 can hydroxene breaks down to keep up with the engine revolution ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MyBoy, </p>
<p>Well, my oversight since i;ve always linked big cars like this to diesel. How could one afford to go off-road on a petrol powered vehicle. There&#8217;s just not enough torque to go around. Anyway, the H2 point still does not deviate. </p>
<p>Heater coil &#8211; technically is used in diesel engines to combust fuel. </p>
<p>Genereate H2 as engine runs, well as i mentioend in Point 5, how much volume of H2 can hydroxene breaks down to keep up with the engine revolution ?</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47529</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oranglulu,

Believe me, you&#039;ll never gonna get one for 30K. :D</description>
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<p>Believe me, you&#8217;ll never gonna get one for 30K. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: oranglulu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47527</link>
		<dc:creator>oranglulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMG,please lauch you dadi sedan,if your suv only 59k,then your sedan may be 30k each,with lots of acc.like abs,airbacks ,hydroxene lah,give proton a real competition,and by now all malaysian should know,we are not being sold cheap by proton.i will buy lmg.sedan at 30k.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMG,please lauch you dadi sedan,if your suv only 59k,then your sedan may be 30k each,with lots of acc.like abs,airbacks ,hydroxene lah,give proton a real competition,and by now all malaysian should know,we are not being sold cheap by proton.i will buy lmg.sedan at 30k.</p>
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		<title>By: oranglulu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47526</link>
		<dc:creator>oranglulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for 59k,i must agreed is cheap lah,some more comes with leather seats,twin airbags,cd player,abs,alloywheel,hydroxene tech.wander a suv so big,only price at 59k,and our proton waja 60 overk,think proton is grossly over price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for 59k,i must agreed is cheap lah,some more comes with leather seats,twin airbags,cd player,abs,alloywheel,hydroxene tech.wander a suv so big,only price at 59k,and our proton waja 60 overk,think proton is grossly over price.</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47453</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dannytay_76,

The &quot;scientist&quot; said the system does not accually store H2+O, instead its generate H2+O as the engine run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dannytay_76,</p>
<p>The &#8220;scientist&#8221; said the system does not accually store H2+O, instead its generate H2+O as the engine run.</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47451</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dannytay_76,

u said &quot;a heater coil to combust fuel&quot;</description>
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<p>u said &#8220;a heater coil to combust fuel&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MyBoy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47450</link>
		<dc:creator>MyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dannytay_76,

LMG run on petrol.</description>
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<p>LMG run on petrol.</p>
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		<title>By: dannytay_76</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/16/lmg-tourer-details/#comment-47436</link>
		<dc:creator>dannytay_76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fellas, I was toying on the same idea of breaking down water into H2/O2 as fuel supplement a couple of years back. But my readings from the internet so far has been very disappointing. Now with what claimed by Malaysian scientist of Hydroxene, I am purplex as to whether to believe it;s true benefits of 50% savings on consumption, and more so practicallity of the technology. Reasons so are : 

1. Everyone know the hyrogen linkages between hydrocarbons and water is about 4:1 or more, meaning hydrocarabons has 4 x more hydrogen molecules than to water. Hence, for vehicle to be powered on water, give a guess as how much water space it would require, let alone 50% on the fuel consumption benefit. 

2. The LMG run on diesel, and everyone know diesel does not use spark plug rather a heater coil to combust fuel. I am not sure what is the heating point of hydrogen, but I dont suppose it&#039;s lower than the heating point of diesel, otherwise this will be a new discovery as hydrogen itself is present in abundance in the air. Anyway in order to spark the hydrogen, the diesel needs to combusted first then only the hydrogen will ignite. The lag in ignition timing will cause i) greater engine knocking ii) no power iii) greater wear. Thus, I am quite doubtful as to how much torque this fella can really pull. 

3. Further to point 2, combusting hydrogen in an engine will generate more heat than usual gasoline engines. This research has been proven by BMW in one of their concept car, if I am not mistaken on the 7 series. 

4. Breakdown electrolysis is a exothermic reaction, meaning it produces heat during breaking down of water composition. We all know, all heat generation equals to power loss. Apart from that, electrolysis process pose alot of corrosion on the electrodes, what more alluminium? how often does one needs to replace this metal ? 

5. Storage of hydrogen, a very lethal chemical if not properly sealed and requires a huge space area unless the hydroxene device can generate enought hydrogen at all RPM range to feed the 2.4 liter engine, which I really doubt. 

However, there is article in the internet which speak about hydrogen ions, which has propensity to release hydrogen is greater volume  but exist in a metal form and it&#039;s proven. It will be nice to see how this will come about in the future. Perhaps the hydroxene is doing just that, I am not sure. 

Anyway, this is my take. If anyone interested to research into this alternative fuel concept, drop me an email. Perhaps we can brainstorm on some ideas. my email - dannytay_76@yahoo.com.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fellas, I was toying on the same idea of breaking down water into H2/O2 as fuel supplement a couple of years back. But my readings from the internet so far has been very disappointing. Now with what claimed by Malaysian scientist of Hydroxene, I am purplex as to whether to believe it;s true benefits of 50% savings on consumption, and more so practicallity of the technology. Reasons so are : </p>
<p>1. Everyone know the hyrogen linkages between hydrocarbons and water is about 4:1 or more, meaning hydrocarabons has 4 x more hydrogen molecules than to water. Hence, for vehicle to be powered on water, give a guess as how much water space it would require, let alone 50% on the fuel consumption benefit. </p>
<p>2. The LMG run on diesel, and everyone know diesel does not use spark plug rather a heater coil to combust fuel. I am not sure what is the heating point of hydrogen, but I dont suppose it&#8217;s lower than the heating point of diesel, otherwise this will be a new discovery as hydrogen itself is present in abundance in the air. Anyway in order to spark the hydrogen, the diesel needs to combusted first then only the hydrogen will ignite. The lag in ignition timing will cause i) greater engine knocking ii) no power iii) greater wear. Thus, I am quite doubtful as to how much torque this fella can really pull. </p>
<p>3. Further to point 2, combusting hydrogen in an engine will generate more heat than usual gasoline engines. This research has been proven by BMW in one of their concept car, if I am not mistaken on the 7 series. </p>
<p>4. Breakdown electrolysis is a exothermic reaction, meaning it produces heat during breaking down of water composition. We all know, all heat generation equals to power loss. Apart from that, electrolysis process pose alot of corrosion on the electrodes, what more alluminium? how often does one needs to replace this metal ? </p>
<p>5. Storage of hydrogen, a very lethal chemical if not properly sealed and requires a huge space area unless the hydroxene device can generate enought hydrogen at all RPM range to feed the 2.4 liter engine, which I really doubt. </p>
<p>However, there is article in the internet which speak about hydrogen ions, which has propensity to release hydrogen is greater volume  but exist in a metal form and it&#8217;s proven. It will be nice to see how this will come about in the future. Perhaps the hydroxene is doing just that, I am not sure. </p>
<p>Anyway, this is my take. If anyone interested to research into this alternative fuel concept, drop me an email. Perhaps we can brainstorm on some ideas. my email &#8211; <a href="mailto:dannytay_76@yahoo.com">dannytay_76@yahoo.com</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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