Comments on: Proton in talks for Thai distribution http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:52:24 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: floyd2006 http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-53926 floyd2006 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:05:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-53926 Toyota Yaris sold at a starting price of RM60k in Thailand. Would Gen2 sell at RM55-60k or Waja at RM60k????? Proton need to do something very special to beat such competition. Toyota Yaris sold at a starting price of RM60k in Thailand. Would Gen2 sell at RM55-60k or Waja at RM60k?????
Proton need to do something very special to beat such competition.

]]> By: floyd2006 http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-53925 floyd2006 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:00:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-53925 I've seen some threads in Thailand forum dedicated to Kelisa and it gets quite good response from other forumers. They say it looks somewhat like one of Mini's cars. Not one on Potong's cars though. If Potong wants to go up north, they should really think of sacrificing the major shareholding. I'm sure no Thais would want to welcome a crappy manufacturer into their fold without having a say in the direction of the company. I’ve seen some threads in Thailand forum dedicated to Kelisa and it gets quite good response from other forumers. They say it looks somewhat like one of Mini’s cars. Not one on Potong’s cars though.

If Potong wants to go up north, they should really think of sacrificing the major shareholding. I’m sure no Thais would want to welcome a crappy manufacturer into their fold without having a say in the direction of the company.

]]> By: clutch_plate http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48781 clutch_plate Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:59:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48781 Erm... opening a proTONG market in Thailand? 'nice' try.. can't wait to see the results.. wakakakaka :) Erm… opening a proTONG market in Thailand? ‘nice’ try.. can’t wait to see the results.. wakakakaka :)

]]> By: mycar_stolen http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48760 mycar_stolen Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:52:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48760 the Proton merdeka ads..should also indicate how Msian struggle to open door to pay toll. because of Proton.... 1. we cant have a good public tarnsport, because good public transport mean no need to buy Proton. 2.we also cant have car review tv programmes..cannot later people will know the technology then wont but Proton. 3.not the mention others well known like, over priced cars, tax,ap,ed,nap,bla bla.... only merdeka if ....proton close shop... the Proton merdeka ads..should also indicate how Msian struggle to open door to pay toll.
because of Proton….
1. we cant have a good public tarnsport, because good public transport mean no need to buy Proton.
2.we also cant have car review tv programmes..cannot later people will know the technology then wont but Proton.
3.not the mention others well known like, over priced cars, tax,ap,ed,nap,bla bla….

only merdeka if ….proton close shop…

]]> By: intermilan http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48675 intermilan Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:43:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48675 Thailand? go go potong! tired to type long long.. wishing potong all the bad luck... in the world. Thailand?

go go potong!

tired to type long long.. wishing potong all the bad luck… in the world.

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48669 Joe Ooi Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:33:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48669 Selamat Menyambut Hari Merdeka ke-49 pada 31 Ogos 06 Kepada Semua Rakyat Malaysia. Selamat Menyambut Hari Merdeka ke-49 pada 31 Ogos 06 Kepada Semua Rakyat Malaysia.

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48642 topgunthang Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:41:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48642 we can celebrate merdeka day. just dont include proton as something msians can be proud of. its off my list. and for a long long time. very long. we can celebrate merdeka day. just dont include proton as something msians can be proud of. its off my list. and for a long long time. very long.

]]> By: ryanchong http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48635 ryanchong Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:36:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48635 Oh My God!! Selling P at Thailand..? What will they do..? Like selling it cheaper at UK with better quality then those that selling in Malaysia? And then Like UK where those P oeners can sell it back to P and P sell the cars to Malaysian, and with the claim "export quality"..? 49th Merdeka is on the way, pls don make Malaysians bare the cost and please don make us look like cock suckers... No ones like to be cock suckers. Want to penetrate into Thai..np as long as the quality is as good as japanese cars. Pls.. tolong... tolong.... Oh My God!! Selling P at Thailand..? What will they do..? Like selling it cheaper at UK with better quality then those that selling in Malaysia? And then Like UK where those P oeners can sell it back to P and P sell the cars to Malaysian, and with the claim “export quality”..? 49th Merdeka is on the way, pls don make Malaysians bare the cost and please don make us look like cock suckers… No ones like to be cock suckers. Want to penetrate into Thai..np as long as the quality is as good as japanese cars. Pls.. tolong… tolong….

]]> By: mr tong sam pah http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48545 mr tong sam pah Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:08:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48545 sorrry its www.ultimatedrivingmachines.wordpress.com sorrry its http://www.ultimatedrivingmachines.wordpress.com

]]> By: mr tong sam pah http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48544 mr tong sam pah Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:03:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48544 hey i saw a NEW toyota camry today near bandar sunway pj to see the model, check out www.ultimatedrivingmachines.com hey i saw a NEW toyota camry today near bandar sunway pj

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]]> By: peromyvi http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48541 peromyvi Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:22:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48541 Post NAP car prices WOw the malaysian car prices are getting more expensive by the day. A check with Naza their car prices show an increase mostly in the Kia Rio and Kia Picanto. Unfortunately Proton cannot produce nice design and quality cars > nowadays if you want to own a decent quality car 1.5 cc be prepared to fork out at least RM 70k. Malaysia is a country that has low wage high living cost. Worst of both world especially in KL. What happen to the good old 80s where things are priced at more reasonable level. As we devaulue the ringgit, we are not improving on productivity. Exports to our trading partner is competitive because we gave a discount. Imagine pre 1997 RM 2.5 = 1 USD. We are selling more quantity to the US but not necessary getting more money out of it. Especially on comodity like palm oil which is in RM denomination. Post NAP car prices

WOw the malaysian car prices are getting more expensive by the day. A check with Naza their car prices show an increase mostly in the Kia Rio and Kia Picanto. Unfortunately Proton cannot produce nice design and quality cars > nowadays if you want to own a decent quality car 1.5 cc be prepared to fork out at least RM 70k. Malaysia is a country that has low wage high living cost. Worst of both world especially in KL. What happen to the good old 80s where things are priced at more reasonable level. As we devaulue the ringgit, we are not improving on productivity. Exports to our trading partner is competitive because we gave a discount. Imagine pre 1997 RM 2.5 = 1 USD. We are selling more quantity to the US but not necessary getting more money out of it. Especially on comodity like palm oil which is in RM denomination.

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48539 nizam80 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:51:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48539 We actually have a choice. If Proton sucks, we buy Perodua. But, the thing is... there's not much vehicle choices at Perodua too. Kancil, Kelisa, Kenari, Kembara, Myvi... all look boring to me. Despite the quality issues at least, Proton cars look better than Perodua, right? (excluding Iswara, Wira, and Perdana V6) So, it the end, lets save up for a Toyota Yaris, huh. Btw, Paul, are there any news of UMW Toyota bringing in a manual transmission Yaris? We actually have a choice. If Proton sucks, we buy Perodua. But, the thing is… there’s not much vehicle choices at Perodua too. Kancil, Kelisa, Kenari, Kembara, Myvi… all look boring to me. Despite the quality issues at least, Proton cars look better than Perodua, right? (excluding Iswara, Wira, and Perdana V6)
So, it the end, lets save up for a Toyota Yaris, huh.
Btw, Paul, are there any news of UMW Toyota bringing in a manual transmission Yaris?

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48529 Joe Ooi Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:52:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48529 KingKong said, "who will buy small cramp Satria/Waja/Gen2?" Thai biggest taxi is not Vios or Corrola but American car that can seat 2 person in front. Go to Bukit Kayu Hitam and check out! KingKong said, “who will buy small cramp Satria/Waja/Gen2?”

Thai biggest taxi is not Vios or Corrola but American car that can seat 2 person in front. Go to Bukit Kayu Hitam and check out!

]]> By: KingKong http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48518 KingKong Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:48:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48518 who will buy small cramp Satria/Waja/Gen2? who will buy small cramp Satria/Waja/Gen2?

]]> By: aksMs http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48484 aksMs Mon, 28 Aug 2006 06:37:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48484 motorhead said; "Cant blame poton 100%, gov come out this idea to generate domestic income in one way (buy poton) or the other way (buy CKD or CBU).. that’s why gov said our NAP is good what??.. for me, its bladdy hell cut throat good…." guess who's idea this spanking brilliant NAP was? Not the gomen...but SHE! motorhead said; “Cant blame poton 100%, gov come out this idea to generate domestic income in one way (buy poton) or the other way (buy CKD or CBU).. that’s why gov said our NAP is good what??.. for me, its bladdy hell cut throat good….”

guess who’s idea this spanking brilliant NAP was? Not the gomen…but SHE!

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48476 topgunthang Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:59:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48476 maybe they'll get sales going by offering free gender-change operations to customers. maybe they’ll get sales going by offering free gender-change operations to customers.

]]> By: motorhead http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48470 motorhead Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:49:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48470 Cant blame poton 100%, gov come out this idea to generate domestic income in one way (buy poton) or the other way (buy CKD or CBU).. that's why gov said our NAP is good what??.. for me, its bladdy hell cut throat good.... Cant blame poton 100%, gov come out this idea to generate domestic income in one way (buy poton) or the other way (buy CKD or CBU).. that’s why gov said our NAP is good what??.. for me, its bladdy hell cut throat good….

]]> By: quest http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48464 quest Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:15:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48464 GlowJo i don't see how Pritin has benefited anyone except for exclusive few. Before tey came about, we paid 30K for a 2 liter car (eg. Mazda 626) in 85. Came Proton, we paid 18K for a Saga. followed by 60K for a Waja now, and Perdana 2 liter 106K? If you were to buy a Mazda 6 now, the cost for insurance (before excise, sales and whatever CRAP tax) is........... get this RM45,000, Japanese CBU. I can't see how or in anyway that Proton has benefitted anyone at all. GlowJo

i don’t see how Pritin has benefited anyone except for exclusive few. Before tey came about, we paid 30K for a 2 liter car (eg. Mazda 626) in 85. Came Proton, we paid 18K for a Saga. followed by 60K for a Waja now, and Perdana 2 liter 106K?

If you were to buy a Mazda 6 now, the cost for insurance (before excise, sales and whatever CRAP tax) is……….. get this RM45,000, Japanese CBU.

I can’t see how or in anyway that Proton has benefitted anyone at all.

]]> By: quest http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48462 quest Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:03:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48462 Actually nizam80, A Yarris has a book value for Insurers when they import in of RM42,500. Actually nizam80, A Yarris has a book value for Insurers when they import in of RM42,500.

]]> By: mycar_stolen http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48455 mycar_stolen Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:16:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48455 P1 totally no social responsibility, demonstrate bad corporate citizen and greatest disgrace to the rakyat! this Thursday is not Merdeka day..Merdeka means no more over priced car. I want to know if the OZZY g IMPOSE DIFFERENT TAX STRUCTURE FOR cbu CAR? IF THEY DO WHY IS STILL CHEAPER THAN MSIA CAR? PLEASE DONT BUY PROTON SPARE MONEY FOR OUR KIDS...they do not need to suffer like me for the last 22 years ++ P1 totally no social responsibility, demonstrate bad corporate citizen and greatest disgrace to the rakyat!

this Thursday is not Merdeka day..Merdeka means no more over priced car.

I want to know if the OZZY g IMPOSE DIFFERENT TAX STRUCTURE FOR cbu CAR? IF THEY DO WHY IS STILL CHEAPER THAN MSIA CAR?

PLEASE DONT BUY PROTON SPARE MONEY FOR OUR KIDS…they do not need to suffer like me for the last 22 years ++

]]> By: mycar_stolen http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48453 mycar_stolen Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:09:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48453 dav.kk said, August 27, 2006 @ 2:13 am hi Datto Dun forget the proton car sell in UK is 100% better then the one you get here, the list of equipment is (Gen 2 example) not to mention to 8 YEARS WARRANTY yes..yes..yes 8 YEARS WARRANTY. dav.kk said,
August 27, 2006 @ 2:13 am

hi Datto
Dun forget the proton car sell in UK is 100% better then the one you get here, the list of equipment is (Gen 2 example)

not to mention to 8 YEARS WARRANTY yes..yes..yes 8 YEARS WARRANTY.

]]> By: ysyslys http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48434 ysyslys Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:48:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48434 p1 oversea marketing stratergy.good if he can bring back more foreign currency.what we can do is wait and see.....coming soon mega blockbuster. p1 oversea marketing stratergy.good if he can bring back more foreign currency.what we can do is wait and see…..coming soon mega blockbuster.

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48433 Joe Ooi Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:45:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48433 Yalah, I heard my friend involved in shipping logistic told me the shipping cost for CBU to UK is more than RM 6K per car! Nevermine, they can export to TomYamLand through Bkt Kayu Hitam or Padang Besar by trailer! Yalah, I heard my friend involved in shipping logistic told me the shipping cost for CBU to UK is more than RM 6K per car!

Nevermine, they can export to TomYamLand through Bkt Kayu Hitam or Padang Besar by trailer!

]]> By: volvolover http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48431 volvolover Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:49:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48431 not mentioning that those car selling overseas including shipping prices and overseas tax which means by right if Malaysia and overseas same specs should be cheaper as selling in Malaysia no import tax and shipping fees. Malaysia import car tax is high, so they can afford to price the car high. not mentioning that those car selling overseas including shipping prices and overseas tax which means by right if Malaysia and overseas same specs should be cheaper as selling in Malaysia no import tax and shipping fees. Malaysia import car tax is high, so they can afford to price the car high.

]]> By: Joe Ooi http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48426 Joe Ooi Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:09:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48426 oranglulu said, "got this adv.from motor trader australia,sept 2003,PARKLAND PROTON,1)persona(wira)a/c,p/steering,remote central locking,cd player,eletric windows,drivers a/bag,3 years UNLIMITED KM WARRANTY,5 years rust warranty,price,manual,aud 14,990.00, auto,aud,15,990.00,2)XLS SATRIA(gti)unique sports body kit,alloy wheels,carbon fibre sports interior,a/c,p/steering,remote central locking,cd player,24 hour proton roadside asist,aud,15,490.00, 3)waja, 4 a/bags,abs,traction control,a/c,p/steering,eletric windows and mirrows,6 speaker audio control,lotus handaling and engineering.aud 19,990.00.check at sept,03 whats the exchange rates?" Exchange rate: http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi The exchange rate as at 27/8/06 is 1 AUD = RM 2.79126 1. Persona/Wira (M) : AUD 14,990.00 = RM 41,840.99 Sahaja! XLS,(A) : AUD 15,990.00 = RM 44,632.25 Sahaja! 2. Satria GTI : AUD 15,490.00 = RM 43,236.62 Sahaja! 3. Waja : AUD 19,990 = RM 55,797.29 Sahaja The exhange rate for Sept 03 is not much different but look at today exchange rate. We can concluded that P1 is the "MOST PATRIOTIC" by selling higher specs and lower price compare to local market! So , if export to Thailand, likely P1 will do the same! Rakyat moeny mah ....... Ask local consumer to subsidise oversea market! Ahem, something very wrong and fishy with P1. P1 totally no social responsibility, demonstrate bad corporate citizen and greatest disgrace to the rakyat! oranglulu said, “got this adv.from motor trader australia,sept 2003,PARKLAND PROTON,1)persona(wira)a/c,p/steering,remote central locking,cd player,eletric windows,drivers a/bag,3 years UNLIMITED KM WARRANTY,5 years rust warranty,price,manual,aud 14,990.00, auto,aud,15,990.00,2)XLS SATRIA(gti)unique sports body kit,alloy wheels,carbon fibre sports interior,a/c,p/steering,remote central locking,cd player,24 hour proton roadside asist,aud,15,490.00, 3)waja, 4 a/bags,abs,traction control,a/c,p/steering,eletric windows and mirrows,6 speaker audio control,lotus handaling and engineering.aud 19,990.00.check at sept,03 whats the exchange rates?”

Exchange rate: http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

The exchange rate as at 27/8/06 is 1 AUD = RM 2.79126

1. Persona/Wira (M) : AUD 14,990.00 = RM 41,840.99 Sahaja!
XLS,(A) : AUD 15,990.00 = RM 44,632.25 Sahaja!

2. Satria GTI : AUD 15,490.00 = RM 43,236.62 Sahaja!

3. Waja : AUD 19,990 = RM 55,797.29 Sahaja

The exhange rate for Sept 03 is not much different but look at today exchange rate. We can concluded that P1 is the “MOST PATRIOTIC” by selling higher specs and lower price compare to local market! So , if export to Thailand, likely P1 will do the same! Rakyat moeny mah ……. Ask local consumer to subsidise oversea market! Ahem, something very wrong and fishy with P1.

P1 totally no social responsibility, demonstrate bad corporate citizen and greatest disgrace to the rakyat!

]]> By: asimo http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48422 asimo Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:21:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48422 myvi use recyle tin.... myvi use recyle tin….

]]> By: volvolover http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48419 volvolover Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:42:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48419 I really like Myvi very much, but the interior sucks, it's not stable and only 1300CC? I like the outer looks of MYVI. It looks and feels like an aluminium car. I really like Myvi very much, but the interior sucks, it’s not stable and only 1300CC? I like the outer looks of MYVI. It looks and feels like an aluminium car.

]]> By: volvolover http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48418 volvolover Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:41:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48418 I am no proton lover, but I personally think proton is better than perodua in terms of car quality especially savvy, satria neo and Gen 2. The body is stronger. But they are well known for that window steering problem, bumper and etc etc. Actually I own a proton and doesn't have much problem other than when it is new. To solve your problem(after warranty) don't get proton spare parts unless neccessary(if the spare part is needed for car to function) . Like if window power spoil, get mechanic to get a good brand window motor. So far my proton has no problem other than it is a milo tin. When my proton was new, the bumper just drop off into the highway!! No Kidding!! I am no proton lover, but I personally think proton is better than perodua in terms of car quality especially savvy, satria neo and Gen 2. The body is stronger. But they are well known for that window steering problem, bumper and etc etc. Actually I own a proton and doesn’t have much problem other than when it is new. To solve your problem(after warranty) don’t get proton spare parts unless neccessary(if the spare part is needed for car to function) . Like if window power spoil, get mechanic to get a good brand window motor. So far my proton has no problem other than it is a milo tin. When my proton was new, the bumper just drop off into the highway!! No Kidding!!

]]> By: volvolover http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48417 volvolover Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:37:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48417 my best bet is when proton sucks, get perodua(perodua is more milo tin than proton), then when proton improves buy proton and perodua will feel the heat, and then perodua will also improve(hopefully) my best bet is when proton sucks, get perodua(perodua is more milo tin than proton), then when proton improves buy proton and perodua will feel the heat, and then perodua will also improve(hopefully)

]]> By: oranglulu http://paultan.org/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48416 oranglulu Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:54:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/25/proton-in-talks-for-thai-distribution/#comment-48416 hahaha,thats why myvi outsell savvy!the citizen had take action oredi! hahaha,thats why myvi outsell savvy!the citizen had take action oredi!

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