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	<title>Comments on: Car scrapping policy &#8211; 15 years?</title>
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	<description>Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry</description>
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		<title>By: karl.shamel</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-83711</link>
		<dc:creator>karl.shamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea simply silliest idea by the dumbest person. NEVER compare with Singapore or Japan, the former Honda Odyssey  2nd generation merely S$10000 (RM23000) if you want to trade your current car COE. The car also around that or even cheaper in Japan. Not only cheaper but their SALARY also much much much HIGHER. 

Their transportation are super efficient, and the best thing, percentage of transportation cost to their income are not substantial, so they can afford to use rapid train unlike us, our salary like 1985s when the car cost like a hell.

Compare in 1985 a Proton merely M$18000 and salary for a  government servant around RM1060  now after 22 years a same Proton with front end facelift ONLY Rm26,999 (prior to this dearer at RM30k++) when government servant salary just paltry RM1400. Corolla then around M$21,000 now RM113,000, among world highest car prices. A record we should PROUD with and we can drive our so-called national brand-Proton Saga 1.3 BUT what different compare to Hindustani Ambassador (new car but very old technology of British&#039;s Morris Oxford)?

We have no sense of guilty whatsoever when we persistently try to please stupid, manja not creative and productive  businesspersons at the expense of poor and pretty stupid rakyats. 

If we now can purchase laptop every month if we wish thanks to right business policy (that&#039;s why DELL have their facility in Prai) why not we just extend the policy inclusive automotive? We can afford to be a PARIAH state like Myanmar and cheat near stupid rakyats with stupid policies.

If government concern  with rakyats they should allow fair and competitive business environment, like neighboring Thai and Indonesia. In Indonesia, their Nissan Grand Livina 1.5i/1.8i merely Rp138.5 m (RM52k approx)-Rp203m (RM80k) and their Toyota Avanza under Rp100m (less than RM40k for 1.3).

So, who&#039;s stupid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea simply silliest idea by the dumbest person. NEVER compare with Singapore or Japan, the former Honda Odyssey  2nd generation merely S$10000 (RM23000) if you want to trade your current car COE. The car also around that or even cheaper in Japan. Not only cheaper but their SALARY also much much much HIGHER. </p>
<p>Their transportation are super efficient, and the best thing, percentage of transportation cost to their income are not substantial, so they can afford to use rapid train unlike us, our salary like 1985s when the car cost like a hell.</p>
<p>Compare in 1985 a Proton merely M$18000 and salary for a  government servant around RM1060  now after 22 years a same Proton with front end facelift ONLY Rm26,999 (prior to this dearer at RM30k++) when government servant salary just paltry RM1400. Corolla then around M$21,000 now RM113,000, among world highest car prices. A record we should PROUD with and we can drive our so-called national brand-Proton Saga 1.3 BUT what different compare to Hindustani Ambassador (new car but very old technology of British&#8217;s Morris Oxford)?</p>
<p>We have no sense of guilty whatsoever when we persistently try to please stupid, manja not creative and productive  businesspersons at the expense of poor and pretty stupid rakyats. </p>
<p>If we now can purchase laptop every month if we wish thanks to right business policy (that&#8217;s why DELL have their facility in Prai) why not we just extend the policy inclusive automotive? We can afford to be a PARIAH state like Myanmar and cheat near stupid rakyats with stupid policies.</p>
<p>If government concern  with rakyats they should allow fair and competitive business environment, like neighboring Thai and Indonesia. In Indonesia, their Nissan Grand Livina 1.5i/1.8i merely Rp138.5 m (RM52k approx)-Rp203m (RM80k) and their Toyota Avanza under Rp100m (less than RM40k for 1.3).</p>
<p>So, who&#8217;s stupid?</p>
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		<title>By: LittleFire85</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-49951</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleFire85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG... How i can survive this world... I have a WV super beetle 1974 1302cc.. New paint, engine still good and the body is still strong.. Even a proton wira hit me his bumber down first... How can i let my beetle being scrap... Nooo... My classic beauty.. I would not let u kill by our G! I will fight for u and all those classic cars freedom!!! 

Even my kancil and wira already 10 years old... How can i surive.. My father already 52,how can he buy a new car and he is already going to retired.. While i still love driving my fathers old car.. 

The G must have a policies that is to let those people who take good care of their cars to keep. While those junk that are really worst should be scrap... I think if this happen those kereta potong factories will be happy.. coz can get more seondhand parts to sell... haha.. And those kampung guys will be sorrow... 

What i heard last night is that old cars will have to go in to jpj or puspakom for inspection every year if have to drive over 15 years.. Damn G! Just about money and Poton... Hope the damn Proton bankrup! And hurray to Perodua! I like Kancil more then wira!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG&#8230; How i can survive this world&#8230; I have a WV super beetle 1974 1302cc.. New paint, engine still good and the body is still strong.. Even a proton wira hit me his bumber down first&#8230; How can i let my beetle being scrap&#8230; Nooo&#8230; My classic beauty.. I would not let u kill by our G! I will fight for u and all those classic cars freedom!!! </p>
<p>Even my kancil and wira already 10 years old&#8230; How can i surive.. My father already 52,how can he buy a new car and he is already going to retired.. While i still love driving my fathers old car.. </p>
<p>The G must have a policies that is to let those people who take good care of their cars to keep. While those junk that are really worst should be scrap&#8230; I think if this happen those kereta potong factories will be happy.. coz can get more seondhand parts to sell&#8230; haha.. And those kampung guys will be sorrow&#8230; </p>
<p>What i heard last night is that old cars will have to go in to jpj or puspakom for inspection every year if have to drive over 15 years.. Damn G! Just about money and Poton&#8230; Hope the damn Proton bankrup! And hurray to Perodua! I like Kancil more then wira!</p>
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		<title>By: volvolover</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-49104</link>
		<dc:creator>volvolover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments Joe Ooi!!</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Ooi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-49101</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. More orderly road traffic 
2. Safety for road users 
3. A cleaner environment 

1. Educate motorist to be careful and considerate with duty of care when on the road.

2. Ban sell of P1 stoneage models new cars but low quality car selling at high price yet unsafe that make Malaysian motorist live &quot;dirt cheap&quot; on the road!

3. Ban all P1 old technology car that does not meet Euro environment regulation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. More orderly road traffic<br />
2. Safety for road users<br />
3. A cleaner environment </p>
<p>1. Educate motorist to be careful and considerate with duty of care when on the road.</p>
<p>2. Ban sell of P1 stoneage models new cars but low quality car selling at high price yet unsafe that make Malaysian motorist live &#8220;dirt cheap&#8221; on the road!</p>
<p>3. Ban all P1 old technology car that does not meet Euro environment regulation!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ooi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-49100</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 07:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is quotes from btimes - 
1. Wan Ahmad Sepwan said Peda had worked with various parties including vehicle inspection outfit Puspakom on the scrapping mechanism. 

2. &quot;Based on a British model, it will allow for the scrapping of old vehicles in return for vouchers that can be used by consumers to buy new cars. 

3. &quot;We had been told that an announcement on this can be expected in the Budget. This idea was first mooted about 10 years ago, but the situation in the industry makes its implementation more urgent now,&quot; Wan Ahmad Sepwan told Business Times. 

1. What he mean by working with various parties, - P1, MAA, New car dealers, AP holders, MPs, Minister, etc, etc, but kick consumers view one side, including comments in this blog? 

2. &quot;Scrapping of old vehicles in return for vouchers that can be used by consumers to buy new cars&quot;? What he mean by this, British model at most implement it on voluntarily basis without capping the year for scrapping! Mr. Bean still can drive Mini Cooper with over 30 years? 

Then another question is who benefit and who will abuse it just like AP to make more money? Who issue to who and what kind of mecahanism they employ to ensure it is mamipulated by seller as well as consumers alike. But the clear sign that the voucher can be abuse are likely on 2 scenario: -

a. This is another &quot;scam&quot; devise by G to force conmsumers scrap old car and purchase new car. P1 can issue voucher, but they also silent in pricing, then P1 can built in this voucher value (RM 5K) by later mark-up all models car prices by RM 5K but give excuse price increase due to oil price increase? So eventually consumers got nut from surrender his car to be scrap for nothing!

b. How to establish &quot;old car&quot; for scrap. Later many kereta potong can come in and declare for scrapping to get RM 5K voucher, tonne of money will be make on this abuse. Also, there may double, triple, &quot;fourth-ble&quot;, &quot;five-ble&quot;, sixth-ble&quot;, etc claims for voucher as there are ring setup to take out the car from scrapping yard and claim-and-cliam-and-claim again for the RM 5K voucher? This is just the tip of iceberb on the probable abuse in voucher system.

2.  What he mean by &quot;but the situation in the industry makes its implementation more urgent now,&quot; Is he mean to force consumer to purchase and stimulate demand for P1 cars in order to save it from making loss as currently happening? What is it so urgent? If so urgent, scrapp the crappy NAP first but not the cars, and for sure there is tremendous surge in demand for new cars! The consumers already burden by NAP yet still want to introduce additional measure so the &quot;poor and ugly&quot; dig deeper into pocket to enrich the &quot;rich and famous&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quotes from btimes &#8211;<br />
1. Wan Ahmad Sepwan said Peda had worked with various parties including vehicle inspection outfit Puspakom on the scrapping mechanism. </p>
<p>2. &#8220;Based on a British model, it will allow for the scrapping of old vehicles in return for vouchers that can be used by consumers to buy new cars. </p>
<p>3. &#8220;We had been told that an announcement on this can be expected in the Budget. This idea was first mooted about 10 years ago, but the situation in the industry makes its implementation more urgent now,&#8221; Wan Ahmad Sepwan told Business Times. </p>
<p>1. What he mean by working with various parties, &#8211; P1, MAA, New car dealers, AP holders, MPs, Minister, etc, etc, but kick consumers view one side, including comments in this blog? </p>
<p>2. &#8220;Scrapping of old vehicles in return for vouchers that can be used by consumers to buy new cars&#8221;? What he mean by this, British model at most implement it on voluntarily basis without capping the year for scrapping! Mr. Bean still can drive Mini Cooper with over 30 years? </p>
<p>Then another question is who benefit and who will abuse it just like AP to make more money? Who issue to who and what kind of mecahanism they employ to ensure it is mamipulated by seller as well as consumers alike. But the clear sign that the voucher can be abuse are likely on 2 scenario: -</p>
<p>a. This is another &#8220;scam&#8221; devise by G to force conmsumers scrap old car and purchase new car. P1 can issue voucher, but they also silent in pricing, then P1 can built in this voucher value (RM 5K) by later mark-up all models car prices by RM 5K but give excuse price increase due to oil price increase? So eventually consumers got nut from surrender his car to be scrap for nothing!</p>
<p>b. How to establish &#8220;old car&#8221; for scrap. Later many kereta potong can come in and declare for scrapping to get RM 5K voucher, tonne of money will be make on this abuse. Also, there may double, triple, &#8220;fourth-ble&#8221;, &#8220;five-ble&#8221;, sixth-ble&#8221;, etc claims for voucher as there are ring setup to take out the car from scrapping yard and claim-and-cliam-and-claim again for the RM 5K voucher? This is just the tip of iceberb on the probable abuse in voucher system.</p>
<p>2.  What he mean by &#8220;but the situation in the industry makes its implementation more urgent now,&#8221; Is he mean to force consumer to purchase and stimulate demand for P1 cars in order to save it from making loss as currently happening? What is it so urgent? If so urgent, scrapp the crappy NAP first but not the cars, and for sure there is tremendous surge in demand for new cars! The consumers already burden by NAP yet still want to introduce additional measure so the &#8220;poor and ugly&#8221; dig deeper into pocket to enrich the &#8220;rich and famous&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: volvolover</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48980</link>
		<dc:creator>volvolover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good article on why scrapping is done. Proton admits it. Must read!!

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BT/Saturday/Nation/BT584474.txt/Article/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good article on why scrapping is done. Proton admits it. Must read!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BT/Saturday/Nation/BT584474.txt/Article/" rel="nofollow">http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BT/Saturday/Nation/BT584474.txt/Article/</a></p>
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		<title>By: motorhead</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48944</link>
		<dc:creator>motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 01:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xg9..

women + car = money / cost.. right?? hehehe...

volvolover,

&quot;She is a bitch!!&quot; ?? Wow, that was awesomely a dahsyat one.. but I like it!!.. hahaha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xg9..</p>
<p>women + car = money / cost.. right?? hehehe&#8230;</p>
<p>volvolover,</p>
<p>&#8220;She is a bitch!!&#8221; ?? Wow, that was awesomely a dahsyat one.. but I like it!!.. hahaha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: volvolover</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48906</link>
		<dc:creator>volvolover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the Datuk Aishah is a she.She is a bitch!! That&#039;s for sure!! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the Datuk Aishah is a she.She is a bitch!! That&#8217;s for sure!! <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: xg9</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48888</link>
		<dc:creator>xg9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just would like to comment on motorhead&#039;s comment about datuk aishah... 

WOMAN + CAR = ????

figure it out yourself... no offense :-) datuk aishah is a she, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just would like to comment on motorhead&#8217;s comment about datuk aishah&#8230; </p>
<p>WOMAN + CAR = ????</p>
<p>figure it out yourself&#8230; no offense <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  datuk aishah is a she, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: topgunthang</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48885</link>
		<dc:creator>topgunthang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe. celebrate independence from wat?

this is a plot to save proton.......make those people even richer.

just avoid proton at all cost now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe. celebrate independence from wat?</p>
<p>this is a plot to save proton&#8230;&#8230;.make those people even richer.</p>
<p>just avoid proton at all cost now.</p>
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		<title>By: kevyeoh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48865</link>
		<dc:creator>kevyeoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one of the most stupid, brainless idea ever heard... whoever said this, he/she will be remembered for this... 

at least la do homework first and publish out a proper report and say out why do this and do that? let everyone understand ma...
even if really wanna implement scrapping policy... at least let the affected users know what is the benefit etc...

and please...don&#039;t ask people to scrap and get rebate only with purchase for national car... i guess nearly 100% of us would rather continue using our old junk...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one of the most stupid, brainless idea ever heard&#8230; whoever said this, he/she will be remembered for this&#8230; </p>
<p>at least la do homework first and publish out a proper report and say out why do this and do that? let everyone understand ma&#8230;<br />
even if really wanna implement scrapping policy&#8230; at least let the affected users know what is the benefit etc&#8230;</p>
<p>and please&#8230;don&#8217;t ask people to scrap and get rebate only with purchase for national car&#8230; i guess nearly 100% of us would rather continue using our old junk&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: volvolover</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48861</link>
		<dc:creator>volvolover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today is a victory against Datuk Aishah, No car scrapping policy. Instead her idea has been SCRAPPED. She should be SCRAPPED from her position cause she is also getting old. You said it Datuk Aishah, old things must scrap to make room for new. So you should be scrapped first as the saying goes to lead by example!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today is a victory against Datuk Aishah, No car scrapping policy. Instead her idea has been SCRAPPED. She should be SCRAPPED from her position cause she is also getting old. You said it Datuk Aishah, old things must scrap to make room for new. So you should be scrapped first as the saying goes to lead by example!!</p>
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		<title>By: motorhead</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48849</link>
		<dc:creator>motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn u Datuk Aishah...u &amp; ur whole family, for bringing this idea... For our leaders, pls don&#039;t u ever think of it (I will train my family and my whole generations to vote against the gov)... NAP hurts like hell oredi.. many of us now can be car admirers only.. there r so many issues need to tackle 1st.. &amp; car scrap policy is the last.....

ps: Nuclear reactor for power idea is cool.. kasi bikin ini dulu la... later we can have nuke weapons..... hehehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn u Datuk Aishah&#8230;u &amp; ur whole family, for bringing this idea&#8230; For our leaders, pls don&#8217;t u ever think of it (I will train my family and my whole generations to vote against the gov)&#8230; NAP hurts like hell oredi.. many of us now can be car admirers only.. there r so many issues need to tackle 1st.. &amp; car scrap policy is the last&#8230;..</p>
<p>ps: Nuclear reactor for power idea is cool.. kasi bikin ini dulu la&#8230; later we can have nuke weapons&#8230;.. hehehe</p>
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		<title>By: volvolover</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48845</link>
		<dc:creator>volvolover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha, the budget didn&#039;t mention scrap car. Datuk Aishah You lose!!</description>
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		<title>By: rexis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48830</link>
		<dc:creator>rexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yessssssss,
If goverment force this policy thru,
first we need to boycott proton, if i buy i will order myvi.

Or i just stick with my 1993 Proton Wira for another 2 years and then switch to my 2002 Lerun Challenger and buy another one to my gf, LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yessssssss,<br />
If goverment force this policy thru,<br />
first we need to boycott proton, if i buy i will order myvi.</p>
<p>Or i just stick with my 1993 Proton Wira for another 2 years and then switch to my 2002 Lerun Challenger and buy another one to my gf, LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: rexis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48826</link>
		<dc:creator>rexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merdeka! Riches get richer poors get poorer! MERDEKA! MERDEKA! MERDEKA!

Are the SUPREME GOVERMENT going to implement this?! We shall know the answer real soon!

And then i shall know i can stick with my Wira or my LERUN...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merdeka! Riches get richer poors get poorer! MERDEKA! MERDEKA! MERDEKA!</p>
<p>Are the SUPREME GOVERMENT going to implement this?! We shall know the answer real soon!</p>
<p>And then i shall know i can stick with my Wira or my LERUN&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mycar_stolen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48824</link>
		<dc:creator>mycar_stolen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hummm
If goverment force this policy thru,
first we need to boycott proton, if i buy i will order myvi

yes not for any reason..just dont buy Proton..no need if..just make up your mind DONT BUY PROTON.
no matter how desperate,or no matter how difficult your life without car..but still dont buy PROTON..because believe me..dont have car is million times better than owning a PROTON.

come on la..you go to school not to see yourself have to open door everytime pay tolls or collects parking tickets...power window failure is an insult for all drivers and their money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hummm<br />
If goverment force this policy thru,<br />
first we need to boycott proton, if i buy i will order myvi</p>
<p>yes not for any reason..just dont buy Proton..no need if..just make up your mind DONT BUY PROTON.<br />
no matter how desperate,or no matter how difficult your life without car..but still dont buy PROTON..because believe me..dont have car is million times better than owning a PROTON.</p>
<p>come on la..you go to school not to see yourself have to open door everytime pay tolls or collects parking tickets&#8230;power window failure is an insult for all drivers and their money.</p>
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		<title>By: dav.kk</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48816</link>
		<dc:creator>dav.kk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hummm
 If goverment force this policy thru, 
 first we need to boycott proton, if i buy i will order myvi. Proton need to scarp thier proton saga ,iswara and wira first and perdana, all those engine so damn old 20 year plus and still sell at price higher then 20 year ago...
  They should at least learn from P2, got dvvt, dohc, efi, cataylic converter n air bag ... 

If you read the lastest from motortrader.com.my  EVO 9 only cost RM 90K - 100K in japan, all lastest technology. In Bolehland , the best you can get is Perdana, which i think it only cost 30K or less since is so old design in Japan,
If they want to have scarping policy then 1st should lower the car price for all make n model and start introducing new model like japan or even singapore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hummm<br />
 If goverment force this policy thru,<br />
 first we need to boycott proton, if i buy i will order myvi. Proton need to scarp thier proton saga ,iswara and wira first and perdana, all those engine so damn old 20 year plus and still sell at price higher then 20 year ago&#8230;<br />
  They should at least learn from P2, got dvvt, dohc, efi, cataylic converter n air bag &#8230; </p>
<p>If you read the lastest from motortrader.com.my  EVO 9 only cost RM 90K &#8211; 100K in japan, all lastest technology. In Bolehland , the best you can get is Perdana, which i think it only cost 30K or less since is so old design in Japan,<br />
If they want to have scarping policy then 1st should lower the car price for all make n model and start introducing new model like japan or even singapore</p>
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		<title>By: assimo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48815</link>
		<dc:creator>assimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If about pollution,yes agree with you motorhead. How about truck,bus,factory etc? I live near Juru, everyday meet this kind of junk on road. Yes,current problem still cannot handle or solve it, they try to do some &#039;short cut&#039; like this??? WTF!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If about pollution,yes agree with you motorhead. How about truck,bus,factory etc? I live near Juru, everyday meet this kind of junk on road. Yes,current problem still cannot handle or solve it, they try to do some &#8217;short cut&#8217; like this??? WTF!</p>
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		<title>By: motorhead</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48813</link>
		<dc:creator>motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 06:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Msia = Spore?... if dei ever use this comparison, dei r very stupid beyond words.. I can travel all over spore within few hours only... even Brunei got car scrap policy ka? Anyone from or live near Brunei here? Pollution??.. the gov can&#039;t even maintain our precious rivers.. JAS can&#039;t do their work oredi.. don&#039;t talk la about pollution.... sampah pun tak tau kutip...

ps: they r playing stupid to cut our throat!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Msia = Spore?&#8230; if dei ever use this comparison, dei r very stupid beyond words.. I can travel all over spore within few hours only&#8230; even Brunei got car scrap policy ka? Anyone from or live near Brunei here? Pollution??.. the gov can&#8217;t even maintain our precious rivers.. JAS can&#8217;t do their work oredi.. don&#8217;t talk la about pollution&#8230;. sampah pun tak tau kutip&#8230;</p>
<p>ps: they r playing stupid to cut our throat!!!</p>
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		<title>By: assimo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48812</link>
		<dc:creator>assimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 06:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry paul if i spoil your blog,but i cannot stand already about this policy,really stupid,unpractical and kill rakyat dream...hopeless...so sad....gonna to scrap my 1992 4WS prelude...huuuuu....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry paul if i spoil your blog,but i cannot stand already about this policy,really stupid,unpractical and kill rakyat dream&#8230;hopeless&#8230;so sad&#8230;.gonna to scrap my 1992 4WS prelude&#8230;huuuuu&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: assimo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48808</link>
		<dc:creator>assimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 06:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOOOOOODDDD...!!!So rich people become more rich and poor people more poor after that...nice!..good formula!Merdeka..!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOOOOOODDDD&#8230;!!!So rich people become more rich and poor people more poor after that&#8230;nice!..good formula!Merdeka..!</p>
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		<title>By: KingKong</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48807</link>
		<dc:creator>KingKong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 06:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bring down car price, then government can talk about scrap or burn cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bring down car price, then government can talk about scrap or burn cars.</p>
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		<title>By: mycar_stolen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48802</link>
		<dc:creator>mycar_stolen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 06:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if they really implement this policy, i should say GOOD LUCK Barang Naik Party for our parliament election 2008!!! 

they compare us with Singapore and Japan to implement this policy...errr Hello..we have Proton the Japs or Sings dont have one...Japanese carmakers not desperate one.it is different situation...Aishah Ahmad you one stupid la...why suddenly want to compare with Sings and Japs..as you yourself approve the sale of SAGA A 1.3LITRE CARUBURETTOR CAR...not to mentiona Public Transport...japanese have their Shinkansen...SINGAPOREAN mrt COVER THEIR WHOLE NATION..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they really implement this policy, i should say GOOD LUCK Barang Naik Party for our parliament election 2008!!! </p>
<p>they compare us with Singapore and Japan to implement this policy&#8230;errr Hello..we have Proton the Japs or Sings dont have one&#8230;Japanese carmakers not desperate one.it is different situation&#8230;Aishah Ahmad you one stupid la&#8230;why suddenly want to compare with Sings and Japs..as you yourself approve the sale of SAGA A 1.3LITRE CARUBURETTOR CAR&#8230;not to mentiona Public Transport&#8230;japanese have their Shinkansen&#8230;SINGAPOREAN mrt COVER THEIR WHOLE NATION..</p>
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		<title>By: dawgHause</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48799</link>
		<dc:creator>dawgHause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only liable excuse is the second one. I agree with that old cars don&#039;t comply with the modern safety regulations. 

But the first excuse? what the heck? Orderly traffic? how on earth is scrapping old cars goin to encourage orderly behaviour? scrap the dyed-hair-i-bought-my-license people, not the old cars. Its always new cars with loud exhaust pipes driven by some punks that are the major cause of irritants on the road. Get rid of them. 

Environmental protection? hah? dun make me laugh. Protons are using engine technology that was used to power Charles Heston Chariot in Ben-Hur. It is as environmentally friendly as Chernobyl. Since when did Malaysian government care about air quality, unless of course those treachreous primitive land burning peasants, the indonesians intervene. 

This is just excuses to push the plan forward, they are political smokescreens. This is when I wish for motorized anarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only liable excuse is the second one. I agree with that old cars don&#8217;t comply with the modern safety regulations. </p>
<p>But the first excuse? what the heck? Orderly traffic? how on earth is scrapping old cars goin to encourage orderly behaviour? scrap the dyed-hair-i-bought-my-license people, not the old cars. Its always new cars with loud exhaust pipes driven by some punks that are the major cause of irritants on the road. Get rid of them. </p>
<p>Environmental protection? hah? dun make me laugh. Protons are using engine technology that was used to power Charles Heston Chariot in Ben-Hur. It is as environmentally friendly as Chernobyl. Since when did Malaysian government care about air quality, unless of course those treachreous primitive land burning peasants, the indonesians intervene. </p>
<p>This is just excuses to push the plan forward, they are political smokescreens. This is when I wish for motorized anarchy.</p>
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		<title>By: auctioncenter2u</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48798</link>
		<dc:creator>auctioncenter2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul, I am new here nice blog!

I think Scrapping the old cars will cause more problems than benefits RAKYAT!

Siapa Sokong?
Mesti ada orang kata SAYA Sokong.
Sokong apa?....Tak tahulah....Sokong sokong aja lah! Who cares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul, I am new here nice blog!</p>
<p>I think Scrapping the old cars will cause more problems than benefits RAKYAT!</p>
<p>Siapa Sokong?<br />
Mesti ada orang kata SAYA Sokong.<br />
Sokong apa?&#8230;.Tak tahulah&#8230;.Sokong sokong aja lah! Who cares?</p>
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		<title>By: auctioncenter2u</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48797</link>
		<dc:creator>auctioncenter2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 05:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I am New here! Selamat merdeka.
Paultan Nice to meet you! You have done a great job. Keep it on....Just love it..superb.

Regarding this topic, I think this plan will not works! 
Scapping the old cars will cause more problems than benefits to RAKYAT.

Siapa Sokong?
Ada orang selalu kata &quot;Saya Sokong&quot;
Sokong Apa? ...Sokong Sokong lah...tak da apa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I am New here! Selamat merdeka.<br />
Paultan Nice to meet you! You have done a great job. Keep it on&#8230;.Just love it..superb.</p>
<p>Regarding this topic, I think this plan will not works!<br />
Scapping the old cars will cause more problems than benefits to RAKYAT.</p>
<p>Siapa Sokong?<br />
Ada orang selalu kata &#8220;Saya Sokong&#8221;<br />
Sokong Apa? &#8230;Sokong Sokong lah&#8230;tak da apa.</p>
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		<title>By: motorhead</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48794</link>
		<dc:creator>motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 04:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With NAP around?.. scrap policy IS NOT RELEVAN! nonsense... even still many high developed countries still have no scrap policy.. malaysia is goin to be the 1st 3rd world country to have scrap policy, in order to cut it&#039;s people throat, for the sake of it&#039;s auto industry!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With NAP around?.. scrap policy IS NOT RELEVAN! nonsense&#8230; even still many high developed countries still have no scrap policy.. malaysia is goin to be the 1st 3rd world country to have scrap policy, in order to cut it&#8217;s people throat, for the sake of it&#8217;s auto industry!!!</p>
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		<title>By: avanza</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48790</link>
		<dc:creator>avanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 04:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who own 12 yo cars will not be able to sell them as no one will buy them to be used for only 3 years. That will further erode the used car business. Though you can get rebates from local makes, I seriously doubt it will much. Besides what about those whose want to get foreign makes? So everyone will be compelled to buy protons! This is just another stint by the govt to help proton at the rakyat&#039;s expense!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who own 12 yo cars will not be able to sell them as no one will buy them to be used for only 3 years. That will further erode the used car business. Though you can get rebates from local makes, I seriously doubt it will much. Besides what about those whose want to get foreign makes? So everyone will be compelled to buy protons! This is just another stint by the govt to help proton at the rakyat&#8217;s expense!!!</p>
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		<title>By: engtaokia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2006/08/31/car-scrapping-policy-15-years/#comment-48785</link>
		<dc:creator>engtaokia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 04:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if they really implement this policy, i should say GOOD LUCK Barang Naik Party for our parliament election 2008!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they really implement this policy, i should say GOOD LUCK Barang Naik Party for our parliament election 2008!!!</p>
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