Yep! I get what you mean and to add further Proton means the BEGGER’S CAR…. many have no choice but to buy a Proton.

1. Consolidate audi, skoda and vw under one single entity. Have 3s centers cater for all these cars.
2. Do ckd fast.

Anyway, time is change and the auto landscape will change in tandem with world globalization process. The P1 bad biz model of seeling high price but low quality for local market, and selling low price but high specs for export market no longer can sustain its existence. This is because ultimately, the “people power” – the consumer purchasing power and “sentiment” will decided the fate of P1 – stop buying, stop manipulation will eventually prevail as near as 2010.

At that time, “we we can debate till the cows come home…” is belong to P1, and we can enjoy riding till the “horse” bring us home” …… Cheer to you, just share info and opinion with you.

We want good cars like VW polo, golf, jetta, passat etc.. with reasonable price. No to Proton scraps like saga, iswara, wira…

Come on you can do it…this is not like Msian have done something very wrong that we suppose to suffer this…

we kill off Proton first…no more Proton with this policy/management….

“Time to wake up and accept the fact that cars will always be overpriced here, whether we like it or not… ”
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Under current crappy NAP and P1, what you argue is to the certain extent is the result of their “MANIPULATION”. It is not the FACT, but greatest MANIPULATION by NAP/P1 to suck our blood until the last drop………. This is not the “FACT” that we as a consumer have to swallow, but it is time to REJECT the greatest manipulation on Bolehland. Definitely we can change this crappy greatest unequal relationship between customer and NAP/P1?

Back to G economy policies, normally it will adopt fiscal (expenditure) and monetary (adjustment of interest rate) policies to control inflation and/or stimulate growth. But these 2 factors alone have their own limitation especially to counter the effect of open market under globalization. The “3rd factor” – consumerism (market forces) or consumer spending also play a big role in determine the healthy growth of economy (sometime indicated by CPI), which is not within the control of G, BUT IN OUR HAND ………..

Believe it or not, we can change the auto industry for better, and the greatest fear for G/NAP/P1 is consumer sentiment! As borrow from Animal Planet phrase “STOP BUYING, STOP THE KILLING”. If we as consumer want to change the auto landscape and take back our right, it is just a plain simple decision – “STOP BUYING P1 CAR, STOP THE CRAPPY NAP/P1 MANIPULATION”. Remember it is a manipulation, not a fact, consumer or tax payers owed nothing to P1 that we have to sacrifice our limited money. But P1 desperately need us for it survival …………………….. think about this ………. we have a choice, and it is within our control to change it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not plainly accept what G/NAP/P1 throw to us ……

Correction!!!…

My country WAS perfect last time.. that was before p1 & NAP was born… my father’s 1st car was VW.. that time anyone can afford to buy VW.. I miss that time so much!!!…

yes, this is an auto blog, & most of motorist here have their heart bleeding bcoz of NAP & stupid policies… in this topic we all can see the soon to come VW prices, so it is alwayz relevan to complain!!!

Let’s all do it next time.

OK

In Malaysia you still can see 12 year old Wira on the road…..

So make your choice.

He he.. Thats wat I am doin…..

I think the Msian market is peanuts to them. If they can sell another 100-200 cars per annum, why not? For every brand and model, there will be suckers.

Businessmen only think of BMW and Mercedes. For the executive, it will be Camry and Accords. It is unlikely that Volkswagon will have a huge following here.

Indeed VW entering M’sian market feels like an empty feeling as it is way beyond the reach of an average salary earning M’sian. I guess the Malaysian tax structure with regards to import cars have succeeded and consequently any can manufacturer can enter M’sian market, but what’s the point when 70% of people can’t afford it, while people who can afford to shell out a car for this price won’t consider a VW unless they are uber rich and already have plenty of cars. I am considering a change of cars but for my budget (RM60~70K) there are only four realistic car to choose from (Early Altis, Early Civic, newer Vios, Newer City). My heart only skipped a beat when i heard that VW is coming in and completely died when i saw the price list.

So i guess VW cars are going to remain an irrelevant consideration for most M’sian. Then again, depreciation can do wonders…Maybe only then such cars would be more realistic.

to side track a little; in singapore housing costs an arm and a leg coz of land scarcity but you still can buy HDB flats (when you qualify). they’ve got a whole range of qualifications and that’s why only in spore people get registered first before marriage to qualify for HDB flats. actually it’s not fair to call them flats, coz some of their designs look so much better than the condos in JB!
but the thing is, buying a HDB dwelling is quite a walk in the park. i am not sure if there is any deposit to pay or they can deduct from their CPF (like our EPF) straightaway. I do know for a fact that their monthly repayments is deducted straight from their CPF, unlike here where we gotta go through so much paperwork and red tape that no one knows for sure what is going on. and the bad thing about housing here is we have greedy developers that take customers for a ride. look at all the abandoned housing projects around…

back to topic… err… what more to say? looking at the way things are heading, it seems the powers to be are confused and lost. the auto industry is grinding to a halt, people are not buying, the banks are getting stricter with loans. looks like something BAD is coming soon. i guess i will be sticking to my trusty, rusty Iswara for a couple more months (or years) first. i would really love a VW though…

y is this? NAP. great. wait till 2010? by then there’s bound to be other wierd car taxes. LPPL.

swell we are obliged to buy 2nd hand cars now. how sad. good thing the 15 year car scrapping policy was not approved….for the time being.

“IF you buy a new car in malaysia, you will most likely not able afford a house either, at least not pay off both at the same time.”
its the same in singapore. so i dont see what this leads too.

in singapore, i can buy practically what ever car i want.. the new subaru WRX 2.5 litre turbo is going for SGD80,000 + COE.. wow.. the only problem is, I will never be able to afford a house. In Malaysia, I might not be able to afford a super duper RM200,000+ car, but at least I have my own house, with my own garden. So I suppose its a win some, lose some situation.

in spore no need to buy a car, their PT is already good.sporean can buy good car with decent price and buy houses everywhere in the world thier Sing Dolar is good.

work in spore drive impreza balik kampong

Houses in Singapore is expensive not because of the Govn’t taking advangate of it, but because land is scarce and it is prudent to control its usage.

Our cars are expensive becaust the govn’t is ripping us off.

Sorry : bit off topic.

It will be interesting though, to see how VW does this time around.. from the postings Ive seen here, most people have either forgotten, or do not know that VW has already made market entry into Malaysia in the past, and the most recent was with DRB-H. The cars just did not sell. I think they still lack widespread market appeal in Malaysia. In Malaysia, I believe people will still buy the vios, or city over the VW, even if they were priced the same unless something drastic happens to change market perceptions. just my 2 cents.