Comments on: Toyota Auris announced, 2 gas and 3 diesels http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Fri, 25 May 2012 06:54:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: aimoe http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-93412 aimoe Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:08:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-93412 All I can say is 400Nm of torque is absolutely scary. The horsepower is secondary. This is going to be faster than most local sports cars. I just wish they would put this engine into a small live axle 4x4.... Ha.... 400Nm... most cars are hardly pushing 200... I think this thing will go up Genting in 4 gear all the way. All I can say is 400Nm of torque is absolutely scary. The horsepower is secondary. This is going to be faster than most local sports cars. I just wish they would put this engine into a small live axle 4×4….

Ha…. 400Nm… most cars are hardly pushing 200… I think this thing will go up Genting in 4 gear all the way.

]]> By: raybrig85 http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54217 raybrig85 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:19:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54217 again...many model in 1 platform.. again…many model in 1 platform..

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54086 topgunthang Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:39:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54086 while it wont win any euro design awards anytime soon. just being a toyota will guarantee it would sell well. the looks are extra benefits. not to forget it is an entry level car. cept for the performance engines variants. lets hope they improve on the handling like what the ford does with the focus. while it wont win any euro design awards anytime soon. just being a toyota will guarantee it would sell well. the looks are extra benefits.

not to forget it is an entry level car. cept for the performance engines variants. lets hope they improve on the handling like what the ford does with the focus.

]]> By: protonGL http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54066 protonGL Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:43:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54066 higher bonnet said to be 'friendlier' when hit the pedestrian, this toyota did follow. (froggy look as a result) i wonder how the ferrari want to be friendly with pedestrian. and the friendliest of all is a (flat head) volvo lorry. higher bonnet said to be 'friendlier' when hit the pedestrian, this toyota did follow.

(froggy look as a result)

i wonder how the ferrari want to be friendly with pedestrian.

and the friendliest of all is a (flat head) volvo lorry.

]]> By: michael83r http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54061 michael83r Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:19:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54061 I like this car. This is the first toyota I have been interested in. Hopefully they bring the diesel to Australia. Or, they release a performance version in not too long to take on the GTI and Focus Xr5. Also, Japanese version offer 4 wheel drive on some models is this true? I hope they make it to Australia. I like this car. This is the first toyota I have been interested in. Hopefully they bring the diesel to Australia. Or, they release a performance version in not too long to take on the GTI and Focus Xr5.

Also, Japanese version offer 4 wheel drive on some models is this true? I hope they make it to Australia.

]]> By: bobdbilder http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54056 bobdbilder Thu, 26 Oct 2006 07:35:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54056 The thing is, if this was based on the Yaris platform, there's not much you can improve on. It's really apparent, you're stuck with the rear, so you kind of shuffle a few design ques over the front end and add those Satria GTI's arches. After all that you get a 307 ish/ Dub GTI Mark IV. Which I guess is not a bad thing except if you're trying to sell it to Europeans who's already seen this before. Good effort for trying to unseat the Vaux VXR or SEAT but its a long way off. The thing is, if this was based on the Yaris platform, there's not much you can improve on. It's really apparent, you're stuck with the rear, so you kind of shuffle a few design ques over the front end and add those Satria GTI's arches. After all that you get a 307 ish/ Dub GTI Mark IV. Which I guess is not a bad thing except if you're trying to sell it to Europeans who's already seen this before. Good effort for trying to unseat the Vaux VXR or SEAT but its a long way off.

]]> By: Driven2020 http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54050 Driven2020 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:53:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54050 The outlook is very good. Let's hope that the build and quality of Auris will hold up. Unfortunately for the bigger brother Camry in the states <a href="http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/toyota_camry_2007/4775/model_user_reviews.html;_ylt=As1KAn.Z_LF3qcHOro07KMx0fb8F" rel="nofollow">http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/toyota_camry_2007/...</a> too bad The outlook is very good. Let's hope that the build and quality of Auris will hold up.

Unfortunately for the bigger brother Camry in the states
http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/toyota_camry_2007/…

too bad

]]> By: szw http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54048 szw Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:17:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54048 izit coming into m'sia ? izit coming into m'sia ?

]]> By: protonGL http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54041 protonGL Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:23:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54041 toyota not bad looking, but when transforming into (eg. aygo to peug 107) ero brand got far batter look. come on toyota.... toyota not bad looking,

but when transforming into (eg. aygo to peug 107) ero brand got far batter look.

come on toyota….

]]> By: kenfresh http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54039 kenfresh Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:23:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54039 The backlight of the meters looks nice. But on second look, seems like a black frog with two huge eyes with gaping mouth look at you! Scary! lol But seriously...400NM kicks ass!!! The backlight of the meters looks nice. But on second look, seems like a black frog with two huge eyes with gaping mouth look at you!

Scary! lol

But seriously…400NM kicks ass!!!

]]> By: ian http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54038 ian Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:21:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-54038 transformer, No offense, but funny you mentioned "Nokia, a very good example of “Variety” practitioner." The reason I bought phones other than Nokia is because there's just too many models to choose from if I go Nokia, some looking almost the same except missing features I need. The only best selling Nokia phones are only a few and they should wise up to concentrate on those instead. For different world regions is OK, but to clog up too many varieties into one market is overkill, and frustrates the customers. In the case of Toyota, I'll just show an example - Innova and Unser. I mean, really, other than the Innova looking better than the Unser, I can't find any difference between the two; they might as well be one model with 2-3 different grades. They'll sell more and save on maunfacturing costs at the same time. However, I'm don't run Toyota, so I don't claim to be expert in product marketing - just 2 cents from my consumer viewpoint. transformer,

No offense, but funny you mentioned "Nokia, a very good example of “Variety” practitioner."

The reason I bought phones other than Nokia is because there's just too many models to choose from if I go Nokia, some looking almost the same except missing features I need. The only best selling Nokia phones are only a few and they should wise up to concentrate on those instead.

For different world regions is OK, but to clog up too many varieties into one market is overkill, and frustrates the customers.

In the case of Toyota, I'll just show an example – Innova and Unser. I mean, really, other than the Innova looking better than the Unser, I can't find any difference between the two; they might as well be one model with 2-3 different grades. They'll sell more and save on maunfacturing costs at the same time.

However, I'm don't run Toyota, so I don't claim to be expert in product marketing – just 2 cents from my consumer viewpoint.

]]> By: transformer http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53937 transformer Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:14:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53937 From Toyota Japan website alone you can roughly find few model base on the platform and part such as Auris, Yaris/Vitz, Avensis, Fielder, Axio & Premio. Most have the same engine offered from 1.5L, 1.6L & 1.8L petrol engines. Link: <a href="http://toyota.jp/carlineup/name.html" rel="nofollow">http://toyota.jp/carlineup/name.html</a> These some model might also landed in EU, US, Asia & Australia. They might also be label as a new model to differentiate demographic. The more variety, the more customer you'll get. In Japan, other than Toyota, Nissan is the 2nd manufacturer with most model offered. Think of Handphone manufacturer ? As i can recall one of the most sucessfull manufacturer is Nokia, a very good example of "Variety" practitioner. From Toyota Japan website alone you can roughly find few model base on the platform and part such as Auris, Yaris/Vitz, Avensis, Fielder, Axio & Premio. Most have the same engine offered from 1.5L, 1.6L & 1.8L petrol engines.

Link: http://toyota.jp/carlineup/name.html

These some model might also landed in EU, US, Asia & Australia.

They might also be label as a new model to differentiate demographic.

The more variety, the more customer you'll get.

In Japan, other than Toyota, Nissan is the 2nd manufacturer with most model offered.

Think of Handphone manufacturer ? As i can recall one of the most sucessfull manufacturer is Nokia, a very good example of "Variety" practitioner.

]]> By: transformer http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53936 transformer Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:58:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53936 Automotive industry competition is very tough. So as to make profit, manufacturer have to design a platform, engine, suspension and etc. that can not only fit a single model but few. Just like Toyota IMV project where you can have Hilux, Innova and Fortuner sharings part. Looklike the latest incarnation of Corolla also facing the same fate. Though name are diff, exterior are diff... the platform and suspension setup might be the same but with minor adjustment to suit their target market... I think they are putting more effort in Variety of the 3V's (Value, Variety & Velocity) to gain market share. Automotive industry competition is very tough. So as to make profit, manufacturer have to design a platform, engine, suspension and etc. that can not only fit a single model but few. Just like Toyota IMV project where you can have Hilux, Innova and Fortuner sharings part.

Looklike the latest incarnation of Corolla also facing the same fate. Though name are diff, exterior are diff… the platform and suspension setup might be the same but with minor adjustment to suit their target market…

I think they are putting more effort in Variety of the 3V's (Value, Variety & Velocity) to gain market share.

]]> By: protonGL http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53934 protonGL Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:34:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53934 looks like monkey (steering+2 dials) hope it wont scare the ladies driver. side view?,new pug 307 is a style to compare looks like monkey (steering+2 dials)

hope it wont scare the ladies driver.

side view?,new pug 307 is a style to compare

]]> By: MyBoy http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53930 MyBoy Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:34:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53930 "nizam80 said, Btw, is this the same D-4D engine that can be found on the Hilux?" ______________________________________________ Not its not. Those great figure come from the 3rd Gen Common-rail Direct Injection + other enhancement. "nizam80 said,

Btw, is this the same D-4D engine that can be found on the Hilux?"

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Not its not. Those great figure come from the 3rd Gen Common-rail Direct Injection + other enhancement.

]]> By: geforce http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53922 geforce Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:23:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53922 I don't mind to own one of this car as well. I don't mind to own one of this car as well.

]]> By: aesthari http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53917 aesthari Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:33:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53917 Nice looking car, bet it would attract many buyers. My favorite powerpack would be the 2.2 litre turbodiesel hehe, but a 2.0 would be nice too! Nice looking car, bet it would attract many buyers. My favorite powerpack would be the 2.2 litre turbodiesel hehe, but a 2.0 would be nice too!

]]> By: protonGL http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53916 protonGL Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:16:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53916 no doubt of the toyota quality and engineering. but it doesnt have multiple models of nearly the same type(ian said) like audi, and almost an audi face for its car, and the corolla having the t3 (a notion of rs3). hope toyota design the toyota way, if u the follower u ll never be the first. look at evo 7 8 9 face ,some european copy its front buldge fender integrated with headlamp.(5 series did that ....different, but the idea is there.) japs 1 german 0 no doubt of the toyota quality and engineering.

but it doesnt have multiple models of nearly the same type(ian said) like audi,

and almost an audi face for its car, and the corolla having the t3 (a notion of rs3).

hope toyota design the toyota way, if u the follower u ll never be the first.

look at evo 7 8 9 face ,some european copy its front buldge fender integrated with headlamp.(5 series did that ….different, but the idea is there.)

japs 1 german 0

]]> By: ian http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53911 ian Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:31:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53911 I don't get Toyota. They constantly have multiple models of nearly the same type. Also, whatever happened to the centric dash meters? Maybe Toyota thought they are not a good idea anymore? (I personally thought center dash designs are stupid). I don't get Toyota. They constantly have multiple models of nearly the same type.

Also, whatever happened to the centric dash meters? Maybe Toyota thought they are not a good idea anymore? (I personally thought center dash designs are stupid).

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53906 nizam80 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:28:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53906 My 2 favourite picks would be on the 1.6 Dual VVTi and the 2.0 Diesel version. Just look at the torque figures in the 2.0 D-4D!!!! Amazing!! Sadly, we can only dream of having the diesel versions here. Btw, is this the same D-4D engine that can be found on the Hilux? My 2 favourite picks would be on the 1.6 Dual VVTi and the 2.0 Diesel version. Just look at the torque figures in the 2.0 D-4D!!!! Amazing!! Sadly, we can only dream of having the diesel versions here. Btw, is this the same D-4D engine that can be found on the Hilux?

]]> By: MyBoy http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53900 MyBoy Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:42:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53900 The damn thing is we cant expect the powerfull diesel to get here. Furthermore, our quality of diesel fuel is unexceptable. The damn thing is we cant expect the powerfull diesel to get here. Furthermore, our quality of diesel fuel is unexceptable.

]]> By: renyeo http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53899 renyeo Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:36:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53899 Basically, Toyota killed the Corolla name in Europe to streamlined its product range. The Auris is not a Corolla replacement as we had always thought so (because for a replacement model, the new replacement has to inherit the DNA of the replaced model - which isn't true in the case of the Auris but is certianly true of the new JDM Corolla, ini't?). The Auris is an extension of the Yaris (in product planning speak). However, the Auris is bigger, more luxurious and more powerful and attracts a different segment of buyers and a different group of buyers within the same segment (the two distinct groups within this segment are Auris and Civic buyers). Basically, Toyota killed the Corolla name in Europe to streamlined its product range. The Auris is not a Corolla replacement as we had always thought so (because for a replacement model, the new replacement has to inherit the DNA of the replaced model – which isn't true in the case of the Auris but is certianly true of the new JDM Corolla, ini't?). The Auris is an extension of the Yaris (in product planning speak). However, the Auris is bigger, more luxurious and more powerful and attracts a different segment of buyers and a different group of buyers within the same segment (the two distinct groups within this segment are Auris and Civic buyers).

]]> By: J http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53896 J Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:19:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53896 Am I confused Auris with Yaris ? Auris with driver side dashboard meter and Yaris with centereed dashboard ? I hope we will have this Auris in Msia :) Am I confused Auris with Yaris ?

Auris with driver side dashboard meter and Yaris with centereed dashboard ?

I hope we will have this Auris in Msia :)

]]> By: Ã&sup2;mn&Ati http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53895 Ã&sup2;mn&Ati Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:48:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53895 both thumbs up! any info if auris coming to SEA shore? both thumbs up! any info if auris coming to SEA shore?

]]> By: cbljkkj http://paultan.org/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53891 cbljkkj Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:01:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2006/10/24/toyota-auris-announced-2-gas-and-3-diesels/#comment-53891 I must say that the 1.6 VVT-i's 0-100 km/h time is quite impressive. Looks great from the outside and the interior doesn't disappoint. Nice placement of the e-brake. Meter clusters and steering wheel look great. Can't wait to see more of it. I must say that the 1.6 VVT-i's 0-100 km/h time is quite impressive. Looks great from the outside and the interior doesn't disappoint.

Nice placement of the e-brake. Meter clusters and steering wheel look great. Can't wait to see more of it.

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